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Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by HeavenlyBang(op): 4:03pm On Mar 10, 2019
weyreypey:
Can you explain more? I'd expect worse given our petrol quality!
Little bit of this, little bit of that. Rationalmind probably doesn't get as high as 26mpg, but it's not outlandish for someone to get higher mpg than the the EPA rating, even with our poor petrol.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by weyreypey: 4:04pm On Mar 10, 2019
rationalmind:
Mine is a TL with stated 26mpg which I achieve with regular gas on the highway. Those who use premium fuel get as much as 30mpg on the highway.

I know he can achieve his stated 20mpg on the highway even with regular fuel.
Please quit the confusion. We are discussing the acura MDX!!
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by weyreypey: 4:04pm On Mar 10, 2019
HeavenlyBang:
Little bit of this, little bit of that. Rationalmind probably doesn't get as high as 26mpg, but it's not outlandish for someone to get higher mpg than the the EPA rating, even with our poor petrol.
Aha I see.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Nobody: 4:09pm On Mar 10, 2019
HeavenlyBang:
Little bit of this, little bit of that. Rationalmind probably doesn't get as high as 26mpg, but it's not outlandish for someone to get higher mpg than the the EPA rating, even with our poor petrol.
It hovers between 25-26mpg, it even sometimes gets to 27mpg grin
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Nobody: 4:10pm On Mar 10, 2019
weyreypey:
Please quit the confusion. We are discussing the acura MDX!!
And I'm telling you categorically that your 15mpg highway is wrong. 20mpg is easily achievable with our fuel as long as he drives moderately.

cc: 9icetoo (Hope I got this right)
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by weyreypey: 4:19pm On Mar 10, 2019
rationalmind:
And I'm telling you categorically that your 15mpg highway is wrong. 20mpg is easily achievable with our fuel as long as he drives moderately.

cc: 9icetoo (Hope I got this right)
300nm of torque and you want me to drive like a corolla or Micra?
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by HeavenlyBang(op): 4:53pm On Mar 10, 2019
rationalmind:
And I'm telling you categorically that your 15mpg highway is wrong. 20mpg is easily achievable with our fuel as long as he drives moderately.

cc: 9icetoo (Hope I got this right)
9icetoo definitely doesn't get 26mpg on his 08 MDX, lmao. grin
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Nobody: 6:02pm On Mar 10, 2019
HeavenlyBang:
9icetoo definitely doesn't get 26mpg on his 08 MDX, lmao. grin
I don't think he gets 15mpg either grin
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by weyreypey: 6:27pm On Mar 10, 2019
rationalmind:
I don't think he gets 15mpg either grin
For him to be playing with xylene and toluene dangerous carcinogenics ...he must be getting 11 MPG on the highway!!
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by 9icetoo(m): 9:24pm On Mar 10, 2019
weyreypey:
For him to be playing with xylene and toluene dangerous carcinogenics ...he must be getting 11 MPG on the highway!!
They are not carcinogenic. Benzene is but not xylene and toluene. The rings on the three hydrocarbons are different.
I achieved 18.8 mpg on my last trip from abakaliki to ph. I rode alone and didn't put my foot � which made me �
However, I got nice mpg readings without the xylene or octane boosters.
I have come to realise that what made the x ping was actually the full load I had on board on my previous journeys. Full load, low octane fuel and heavy foot results to pings. Which now makes sense to me cos Gazzuz mentioned his customers who drive max don't complain about the pings.
Around town, the best is get is 13.5 mpg if ph people behave themselves.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by 9icetoo(m): 9:28pm On Mar 10, 2019
survivex:
Many thanks. On the fuel, i understand that its a 3.7L engine so it can't be compared to those lower. If I get up to 15L/100km in city and less on the highway I am fine.
You will get about 20L/100km. I use one. No check light. And ph traffic is lighter than Lagos traffic. I choose and plan my journeys though to minimise fuel expense. Getting used to it. But you will love it. The handling and acceleration is superb.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by HeavenlyBang(op): 9:30pm On Mar 10, 2019
9icetoo:
You will get about 20L/100km. I use one. No check light. And ph traffic is lighter than Lagos traffic. I choose and plan my journeys though to minimise fuel expense. Getting used to it. But you will love it. The handling and acceleration is superb.
OP is looking at a 2007, I believe. First-gen.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by 9icetoo(m): 9:31pm On Mar 10, 2019
rationalmind:
Mine is a TL with stated 26mpg which I achieve with regular gas on the highway. Those who use premium fuel get as much as 30mpg on the highway.

I know he can achieve his stated 20mpg on the highway even with regular fuel.
Not with our fuel and even if he applied all fuel saving techniques available.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by 9icetoo(m): 9:33pm On Mar 10, 2019
HeavenlyBang:
OP is looking at a 2007, I believe. First-gen.
Second gen started from 2007 I believe. I've seen some with the production date of 2007.
I don't know about the performance or mpg of the first generation.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by sexuential: 10:41pm On Mar 10, 2019
PS kindly enlighten me on which is best

Xc90 v8

BMW X3

4runner v6/v8

All of 2005 as year of production
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by valarinz: 10:46pm On Mar 10, 2019
sexuential:
PS kindly enlighten me on which is best

Xc90 v8

BMW X3

4runner v6/v8

All of 2005 as year of production
Ask no further cool
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by bizzle2: 2:03am On Mar 11, 2019
survivex:
I want to buy the Acura MDX 2007 edition from Canada. Any views as to the pros and cons of this suv? Plus what is your overall view about the car in terms of reliability, fuel economy, maintenance-ease of repair and availability of mechanics.

Many thanks.
Great choice, very solid ride.
Avoid Canadian stock...the MDX is not a car you want to buy with rust
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Greenarrow01(m): 5:06am On Mar 11, 2019
valarinz:
Ask no further cool
Are x3 and x5 not good..
Cos i sincerely love the dashboard
I live that wooden feeling.
I am still looking for that SUV i will but with a great dashboard on copart forjust $2000 through bidding thou
And not much damage..

Lol i want reverse camera too and that panoramic or just roof.

Benz is too expensive we have to go for BMW
I can make do with sedan too.

The problem na just clearing
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by weyreypey: 5:11am On Mar 11, 2019
Greenarrow01:
Are x3 and x5 not good..
Cos i sincerely love the dashboard
I live that wooden feeling.
I am still looking for that SUV i will but with a great dashboard on copart forjust $2000 through bidding thou
And not much damage..

Lol i want reverse camera too and that panoramic or just roof.

Benz is too expensive we have to go for BMW
I can make do with sedan too.

The problem na just clearing
Buy what gives you joy.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Greenarrow01(m): 5:23am On Mar 11, 2019
weyreypey:
Buy what gives you joy.
its not about what gives me joy ooo

maintenancr is very important here.. i cant be spending crazy money on maintenace or issues luke transmission

here is a place for advice and i am looking for your and others suggestio
n
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by weyreypey: 6:10am On Mar 11, 2019
Greenarrow01:
its not about what gives me joy ooo

maintenancr is very important here.. i cant be spending crazy money on maintenace or issues luke transmission

here is a place for advice and i am looking for your and others suggestio
n
Buy a Toyota Corolla.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by survivex: 6:58am On Mar 11, 2019
9icetoo:
Second gen started from 2007 I believe. I've seen some with the production date of 2007.
I don't know about the performance or mpg of the first generation.
Very correct. The 2nd generation is from 2007- 2013. The fuel rating for both 07/08 are very similar.

Many thanks y'all for all the well outlined technical and experiential comments. I will let you all know how it performs when I start using it. �
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by HeavenlyBang(op): 6:58am On Mar 11, 2019
Greenarrow01:
its not about what gives me joy ooo

maintenancr is very important here.. i cant be spending crazy money on maintenace or issues luke transmission

here is a place for advice and i am looking for your and others suggestio
n
You'd do well to ignore BMWs, then.
Infiniti FX35, Mazda CX-7, Ford Edge are your best options.
I'd personally look at the Mazda.

Also, a good option is the 2007 Acura RDX. Probably the best of the bunch.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Nobody: 7:50am On Mar 11, 2019
survivex:
Many thanks. On the fuel, i understand that its a 3.7L engine so it can't be compared to those lower. If I get up to 15L/100km in city and less on the highway I am fine.
U WILL NOT get 15L/100km in the city. In fact stated mpg in city is 15.6L per 100km on premium fuel and at the optimum condition without ac. And all those oyinbo city driving is no where near Lagos city driving. When u put all these things together coupled with our bad fuel u would probably be ok if u get 25-27L/100km in the city without octane boosters. If u drive in the city without ac maybe u can get around 23-24L/100km.

I once used a 2005 Honda pilot when has the same mpg as the MDX only that it runs on regular fuel. Car was in perfect shape and the best I could get in the city was 26L/100km. My 05 TL with smaller engine but requires premium fuel averages 24L/100km in the city.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by HeavenlyBang(op): 8:03am On Mar 11, 2019
greenhulk:
U WILL NOT get 15L/100km in the city. In fact stated mpg in city is 15.6L per 100km on premium fuel and at the optimum condition without ac. And all those oyinbo city driving is no where near Lagos city driving. When u put all these things together coupled with our bad fuel u would probably be ok if u get 25-27L/100km in the city without octane boosters. If u drive in the city without ac maybe u can get around 23-24L/100km.

I once used a 2005 Honda pilot when has the same mpg as the MDX only that it runs on regular fuel. Car was in perfect shape and the best I could get in the city was 26L/100km. My 05 TL with smaller engine but requires premium fuel averages 24L/100km in the city.
My God, that's horrendous gas mileage. 24L/100km, wtf. That's like 10mpg. shocked
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by radautoworks: 8:27am On Mar 11, 2019
HeavenlyBang:
9icetoo definitely doesn't get 26mpg on his 08 MDX, lmao. grin
For sure. I get 11-12 on an Rdx so he's definitely not getting that on an M.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Nobody: 9:00am On Mar 11, 2019
HeavenlyBang:
My God, that's horrendous gas mileage. 24L/100km, wtf. That's like 10mpg. shocked
Yes very horrendous, but that's basically crawl driving with AC on. Lately I've been making too many short driving with average speed of 7-10km/hr. That has greatly affected the mpg. Though I know it could be better because when I first got the car I was getting around 20L/100km in serious traffic driving with AC. I don't have check engine light on and car is very responsive, exhaust tips are very clean. I'll look for time for proper diagnosis Sha maybe I can save a few mpg. Those cars that require premium just don't do well with regular in terms of mpg. But on the highway mpg can double.
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Nobody: 9:38am On Mar 11, 2019
HeavenlyBang:
My God, that's horrendous gas mileage. 24L/100km, wtf. That's like 10mpg. shocked
City driving is where these vehicles suffer, I once averaged 9-10mpg within the city pre election when there was a lot of traffic within town.

It was so annoying seeing it that I had to reset the trip meter and started all over again grin
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Nobody: 9:43am On Mar 11, 2019
greenhulk:
Yes very horrendous, but that's basically crawl driving with AC on. Lately I've been making too many short driving with average speed of 7-10km/hr. That has greatly affected the mpg. Though I know it could be better because when I first got the car I was getting around 20L/100km in serious traffic driving with AC. I don't have check engine light on and car is very responsive, exhaust tips are very clean. I'll look for time for proper diagnosis Sha maybe I can save a few mpg. Those cars that require premium just don't do well with regular in terms of mpg. But on the highway mpg can double.
It's also possible your driving style has changed a bit. From my experience, it can make a whole world of difference in gas mileage.

You were probably careful and drove slowly when you newly got it grin
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by MotorGuru: 10:19am On Mar 11, 2019
nurey:
The cary big daddy 05 or 06 doesn't have transmission issues, it was fitted with 2azfe a 4cylinder Toyota engine which was known to burn oil and had stripped head bolt issue. Not all the 2azfe but some batch.

The matrix is a good solid vehicle has a 4WD version evident when you look under at the rear an axle is present so when you get such specimen remember to put axle oil to avoid damage of the axle.

The cary muscle is also good, the 2007 has gear issues a known factory defect, it also comes with the 2azfe from 07 to 09, the 10 and 11 had a better 2arfe engine.

your 1m can't get you a solid cary muscle that starts from 1.5m. The 05-06 cary would be cheaper as naija used 1st body can go for 850 to 900 the remaining change use it to fix to your taste.
To cut your expenses down ensure the specimen you select is inspected by a mechanic, it has already been fitted with alloy wheels pot holes cause steel rim deformity

goodluck
This problem was exclusive to the 2az-fe 'phase II' engines which was fitted to 2007-09 Camrys, 2006-09 Rav4s and 2009 Corrollas. This was due to a revised piston and ring design which was to allow the use of lighter oil (5w-20). But this ended up being a disaster as oil consumption problems arose as low as 75k miles, leading to a class action lawsuit in 2014 in the US.

The gear issues were identified with cars equipped with the v6 engine.


Motorguru
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by akinswaggs(m): 10:37am On Mar 11, 2019
2013 Camry Xle or 2013 Accord Ex-L
Re: The Official Car Comparison/Recommendation Thread by Nobody: 10:41am On Mar 11, 2019
rationalmind:
It's also possible your driving style has changed a bit. From my experience, it can make a whole world of difference in gas mileage.

You were probably careful and drove slowly when you newly got it grin
Yeah, possible. The driving pattern and driving conditions greatly affected mpg. But I think those TL's don't like stop and go shirt distance traffic driving especially in the hot sun and ac on. Lack of premium fuel ain't helping either. But it makes up for it in long distance. Last December I traveled with the car (300km journey) with full load in the trunk and 4 adults including me (2 plus size women) and 4 children and I still got 21mpg with AC throughout. Not bad.
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