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Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by seunmsg(m): 4:20pm On Mar 17, 2019
TyrantInAsoRock:
When Apc was still united

The man at the center of Apc is not contesting again

Now u will see real game of thrones starting from senate leadership

U think everybody in Apc will back osinbajo

How grip is Apc hold on SW even Tinubu can't pull 70% in SW if u put him on the ticket

If power will return to SW

Entire South must come together

Cuz I see kwankwaso bagging pdp's ticket

The stuff he's pulling in kano just outta of the world
Why do you think Kwankwaso will bag the PDP ticket? What makes you think he can defeat southern candidates like Peter Obi, Ekweremadu, Wike, Umahi etc?

Wike supported Tambuwal against a very rich Atiku and a powerful Saraki the last time out. Tambuwal came second. You sincerely think Kwankwaso can defeat Wike in 2023?

With Uche Secondus as PDP chairman, you think PDP will zone its presidential ticket to the north? On what basis?
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by dammiecool(m): 4:23pm On Mar 17, 2019
ChristianNorth:
We are not afonja, we are not power drunk. Presidency is not our concern right now.

SW 2023 is not happening.
Stop deciving urself like say den give una una no go take am, ordinary vp they gave obi una song changed instantly.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by dammiecool(m): 4:28pm On Mar 17, 2019
seunmsg:
Why do you think Kwankwaso will bag the PDP ticket? What makes you think he can defeat southern candidates like Peter Obi, Ekweremadu, Wike, Umahi etc?

Wike supported Tambuwal against a very rich Atiku and a powerful Saraki the last time out. Tambuwal came second. You sincerely think Kwankwaso can defeat Wike in 2023?

With Uche Secondus as PDP chairman, you think PDP will zone its presidential ticket to the north? On what basis?
Tell Dem o,I used to think he's a powerful politician before now, but look at d last pdp presidential primaries he was no where to be found, fast forward to d presidential election he couldn't win a local govt for atiku n now he's struggling to win kano state for PDP, I think d guy is overrated.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by PaChukwudi44(m): 4:34pm On Mar 17, 2019
seunmsg:
Why do you think Kwankwaso will bag the PDP ticket? What makes you think he can defeat southern candidates like Peter Obi, Ekweremadu, Wike, Umahi etc?

Wike supported Tambuwal against a very rich Atiku and a powerful Saraki the last time out. Tambuwal came second. You sincerely think Kwankwaso can defeat Wike in 2023?

With Uche Secondus as PDP chairman, you think PDP will zone its presidential ticket to the north? On what basis?
Because they will not contest.PDP has zoned the 2023 presidential ticket to the north.The earlier you realized that the better for you
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by seunmsg(m): 4:36pm On Mar 17, 2019
dammiecool:
Tell Dem o,I used to think he's a powerful politician before now, but look at d last pdp presidential primaries he was no where to be found, fast forward to d presidential election he couldn't win a local govt for atiku n now he's struggling to win kano state for PDP, I think d guy is overrated.
The only reason APC is struggling in Kano is the Ganduje video and nothing else. APC won 27 out of the 40 assembly seats while PDP won 12 with one seat undeclared. That’s to tell you Kwankwanso is overrated and APC is still the most popular party in the state.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Nwadiuto247: 4:37pm On Mar 17, 2019
dammiecool:
They've tried to accommodate them but dey said no, u can't force them, they hate apc n dat won't change anytime soon
Liar. The only problem Igbos have with APC is BUHARI

Once Buhari leaves politics, voting pattern in the se will change.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Earthquake2: 4:38pm On Mar 17, 2019
seunmsg:
The only reason APC is struggling in Kano is the Ganduje video and nothing else. APC won 27 out of the 40 assembly seats while PDP won 12 with one seat undeclared. That’s to tell you Kwankwanso is overrated and APC is still the most popular party in the state.
So you think Kano people will vote Osibanjo over Kwankwaso?
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Earthquake2: 4:39pm On Mar 17, 2019
seunmsg:
The only reason APC is struggling in Kano is the Ganduje video and nothing else. APC won 27 out of the 40 assembly seats while PDP won 12 with one seat undeclared. That’s to tell you Kwankwanso is overrated and APC is still the most popular party in the state.
So you think Kano people will vote Osibanjo over Kwankwaso?

Let PDP take control of the state first you'll see the amount of defection
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by seunmsg(m): 4:41pm On Mar 17, 2019
PaChukwudi44:
Because they will not contest.PDP has zoned the 2023 presidential ticket to the north.The earlier you realized that the better for you
You don’t have to pass your personal sentiments as facts on a public forum like this. Emotional Igbos are not the only members of PDP and the party doesn’t make its zoning decision on Nairaland. If you are sure of what you are saying, share a link of where PDP made the announcement.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Earthquake2: 4:42pm On Mar 17, 2019
The amount of defection from the APC to PDP especially in the north from now till 2023 will shock you

The North loves power and the SE/SS will be supporting them smiley

SW will be outcast in 2023 then they will remember 'southern unity'
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Earthquake2: 4:43pm On Mar 17, 2019
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seunmsg:
You don’t have to pass your personal sentiments as facts on a public forum like this. Emotional Igbos are not the only members of PDP and the party doesn’t make its zoning decision on Nairaland. If you are sure of what you are saying, share a link of where PDP made the announcement.
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Begin now to shout southern unity, I like to hear your cries grin
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by seunmsg(m): 4:44pm On Mar 17, 2019
Earthquake2:
So you think Kano people will vote Osibanjo over Kwankwaso?

Let PDP take control of the state first you'll see the amount of defection
And you are 100% sure 2023 will be Osinbajo vs Kwankwanso?
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Earthquake2: 4:45pm On Mar 17, 2019
Nwadiuto247:
Liar. The only problem Igbos have with APC is BUHARI

Once Buhari leaves politics, voting pattern in the se will change.
Buhari is the glue holding APC together when he is gone they will kill themselves

The likes of Okoroocha,Amosun are only keeping quiet because of Buhari
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by seunmsg(m): 4:48pm On Mar 17, 2019
Earthquake2:
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Begin now to shout southern unity, I like to hear your cries grin
No need. Wike will win PDP ticket in 2023 so stop disturbing yourself. It’s going to be a southern battle and Nigerians from all regions will decide.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Earthquake2: 4:48pm On Mar 17, 2019
seunmsg:
And you are 100% sure 2023 will be Osinbajo vs Kwankwanso?
Osibanjo is the only Afonja capable of getting 10% votes
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Earthquake2: 4:49pm On Mar 17, 2019
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seunmsg:
No need. Wike will win PDP ticket in 2023 so stop disturbing yourself. It’s going to be a southern battle and Nigerians from all regions will decide.
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Continue crying grin
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by TyrantInAsoRock: 5:55pm On Mar 17, 2019
seunmsg:
Why do you think Kwankwaso will bag the PDP ticket? What makes you think he can defeat southern candidates like Peter Obi, Ekweremadu, Wike, Umahi etc?

Wike supported Tambuwal against a very rich Atiku and a powerful Saraki the last time out. Tambuwal came second. You sincerely think Kwankwaso can defeat Wike in 2023?

With Uche Secondus as PDP chairman, you think PDP will zone its presidential ticket to the north? On what basis?
LOL

Wike was able to dictate the pace because he was the one financing Pdp then

Now the game has change.. If Pdp do well in the re-runs,there will enough moneybags so Wike can no longer call the shots like he used to....infact Atiku emergence weaken his hold on the party... Fayose his partner in crime where is he now

Pdp will zone presidency back to North else they want to continue playing opposition

Kwankwaso will floor Wike hands down even in Pdp presidential ticket contest

Politics isn't stagnant it always evolving

Wike can't come out today and say convention must hold in PH...its the truth
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by TyrantInAsoRock: 5:59pm On Mar 17, 2019
bender79:
what is all this Kwankwaso noise all about? Pls we need refined people at the helm of affairs. We can as well bear the last of buharis' type and forge ahead
There is difference between what is "ideal" and "reality"


Ideally pple like Adesina (fmr agric minister) and Co should be leading us

But in reality it's not possible YET

Aregbe stand greater chance of becoming president than Adesina
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by TyrantInAsoRock: 6:11pm On Mar 17, 2019
ogmask:
I understand what you mean brother. Bit I do not see a Kwankwanso ticket as a good one for the pdp. What is happening in kano is simply voter apathy. Most of the pple stayed away from the PUs. The win margin is too small to make any significant conclusion for the red cap god. Just try to imagine what it would have been had the ganduje video not emerge.
U are right

I believe if Apc zone presidential ticket to SW.... Wike, ekweremadu should get the job done but I don't think Apc will risk it when their grip on SW is not that solid..

If Apc pick a northerner

I don't see a better option for pdp than Kwankwaso

Dont u think ganduje video have political undertone?

The videos was complied over a long period of time

They turn it into series... Kept pple salivating for nxt episode

Maybe it was even a setup after all kwankwaso and ganjude are best friends before politics set them apart.. They definitely know one or two things about each other
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by ogmask: 6:36pm On Mar 17, 2019
TyrantInAsoRock:
U are right

I believe if Apc zone presidential ticket to SW.... Wike, ekweremadu should get the job done but I don't think Apc will risk it when their grip on SW is not that solid..

If Apc pick a northerner

I don't see a better option for pdp than Kwankwaso

Dont u think ganduje video have political undertone?

The videos was complied over a long period of time

They turn it into series... Kept pple salivating for nxt episode

Maybe it was even a setup after all kwankwaso and ganjude are best friends before politics set them apart.. They definitely know one or two things about each other
I agree with you. My little worry tho is the fact that the north will control things for a long time to come. Assuming, the apc fields a southerner, the pdp will still zone theirs to the north. This will still give the north an edge. The first thing in the minds of the poltical gladiators is to grab power. How they do that doesn't matter. They just want power and then the clock starts counting from the beginning again.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by dammiecool(m): 7:05pm On Mar 17, 2019
seunmsg:
No need. Wike will win PDP ticket in 2023 so stop disturbing yourself. It’s going to be a southern battle and Nigerians from all regions will decide.
Oga abeg look for some1 else wike na bad product, there r better southerner in PDP. How do 1 sell a candidate like wike grin
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by dokie: 7:32pm On Mar 17, 2019
uzzyke700:
the master stroke that will happen in 2023 is if pdp zone their presidency to the north. which they may likely do. That is , if they present atiku as the flag bearer, he will still pull the same massive support from the south east and to some extent south south if he picks his deputy from these zones, afterall the SW is geared up to produce the next presidential candidate in APC, hence returning power to the north after their 8yrs, so the SE and SS do not have any chance in APC. so there must be a trade off. the SE /SS will weigh their options, vote APC SW and power returns to the north after 8yrs or vote PDP and maybe Atiku who is more detribalized and from the north with an offer of VP? which will make it easier for power to get to the SE/SS. 2023 may mark the end of APC at the helm of affairs with what may play out. those angling for a Sw presidency in 2023 should think twice. the igbos may likely give the north a second chance as a trade off. And i dont think the north would reject such an offer by not voting their kinsman in 2023. no mater what. because it is not likely that they would be better off after buharis 8 yrs presidency, if they are not better of in the first four years, i dont see any magic he would do, besides there no plans as to the strategy he would use to improve on their well being. i think the SW maybe alone in 2023.
You say likely do? PDP has no option than to give it to the north.

Apart from the SS, no other zone will vote for an igbo man and vice versa. Giving it to a Yoruba man is out of it completely.

So it's North. Its either kwankwaso or tambuwal.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by tiredoflife(m): 8:05pm On Mar 17, 2019
uzzyke700:
the master stroke that will happen in 2023 is if pdp zone their presidency to the north. which they may likely do. That is , if they present atiku as the flag bearer, he will still pull the same massive support from the south east and to some extent south south if he picks his deputy from these zones, afterall the SW is geared up to produce the next presidential candidate in APC, hence returning power to the north after their 8yrs, so the SE and SS do not have any chance in APC. so there must be a trade off. the SE /SS will weigh their options, vote APC SW and power returns to the north after 8yrs or vote PDP and maybe Atiku who is more detribalized and from the north with an offer of VP? which will make it easier for power to get to the SE/SS. 2023 may mark the end of APC at the helm of affairs with what may play out. those angling for a Sw presidency in 2023 should think twice. the igbos may likely give the north a second chance as a trade off. And i dont think the north would reject such an offer by not voting their kinsman in 2023. no mater what. because it is not likely that they would be better off after buharis 8 yrs presidency, if they are not better of in the first four years, i dont see any magic he would do, besides there no plans as to the strategy he would use to improve on their well being. i think the SW maybe alone in 2023.
Do u know wat u are saying
Zone wetin to north
Another 8yrs
Making it straight 16yrs to the north if we count from buhari 2015
Guy reason am well na
U think say south go agree
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by Nobody: 8:54pm On Mar 17, 2019
[quote author=tiredoflife post=76745208]Do u know wat u are saying
Zone wetin to north
Another 8yrs
Making it straight 16yrs to the north if we count from buhari 2015
Guy reason am well na
U think say south go agree[/quote

The question is; who is the south? Your opinion maybe right, but only if the south is united. Take it or leave it, the kind of suspicion ,distrust and segregation in the south is much. Look at what the just concluded presidential election has revealed. The north is one. Whether nc, nw or ne. They combine their numerical strenght. Hence if they want to rule for next 20 yrs, you cant stop them. Everybody now is playing politics for their own favour. The sw voted apc against the rest of the south because of regional interest. So others also have interest. It is all about collective bargain. Even the northen can accomodate an igbo man than a southwesterner. Check out what happened in lagos during the election.
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by blackpanda: 9:53pm On Mar 17, 2019
ChristianNorth:
Yet they voted massively for Atiku which Buhari rigged.

Yet 9 years after the war, they voted for Shagari/Ekwueme.

Console yourself, SW 2023 can never happen.
That's what u guys said about buhari. U will still be on NL crying crocodile tears of rigging while osinbajo is sworn in 2023 as President
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by chemgee: 10:37pm On Mar 17, 2019
blackpanda:
If PDP makes d mistake of taking Igbo as VP again, they will lose. The truth is nobody can win without the north, and the north don't like Igbo. Just as Igbo dont like north
I think they should present a VP from the SS with ties to the SE and whose state has huge voting strength. i.e Delta's okowa or River's wike.. using one stone to kill two birds..
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by KunleyY19(m): 11:21pm On Mar 17, 2019
Who will lead PDP into 2023huh So far it's Secondus I am confident because he will surely come second...
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by KunleyY19(m): 11:25pm On Mar 17, 2019
[quote author=uzzyke700 post=76746587][/quote]The north can never accommodate Igbo's More than Yoruba's Laye...
By virtue of having Muslims in SW is the major binding force... North (Muslims) SE (Christian) it can't work Laye...
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by ChristianNorth: 12:41am On Mar 18, 2019
blackpanda:
That's what u guys said about buhari. U will still be on NL crying crocodile tears of rigging while osinbajo is sworn in 2023 as President
He should go and win his PU first
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by blackpanda: 5:00am On Mar 18, 2019
chemgee:
I think they should present a VP from the SS with ties to the SE and whose state has huge voting strength. i.e Delta's okowa or River's wike.. using one stone to kill two birds..
God forbid. Two useless goats
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by mrvitalis(m): 5:33am On Mar 18, 2019
uthlaw:
stop all this your rubish story, PDP should give kwankwaso ticket 2023 against South West osibanjo by 2031 PDP should give the ticket to South East or south South, APC will also give ticket back to the North and win.....the North should continue ruling!
That's the idea since south west dont want to have sense and give the ticket to tge part of the south that haven't gotten the presidency since 1999

Ts simple logic
Re: The Final Battle For 2023 Politics by mrvitalis(m): 5:39am On Mar 18, 2019
ogmask:
I agree with you. My little worry tho is the fact that the north will control things for a long time to come. Assuming, the apc fields a southerner, the pdp will still zone theirs to the north. This will still give the north an edge. The first thing in the minds of the poltical gladiators is to grab power. How they do that doesn't matter. They just want power and then the clock starts counting from the beginning again.
The only way apc can retain power is to zone the tickets to SS/SE simple
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