ollah2:


You don't need to lie to score cheap political points. If i call you guys names now, they will say i hate christians. You have muslims friends that support isis and terrorism and they are your friends whom you visit. Like i said religion has turned you into something else.

Lol its a pity that you are already very agitated and its stopping you from being rational. Youre right, I dont need to lie, because Im not lying.

So you have never had a friend who talks without thinking?? You dont have friends with whom you occasionally disagree on certain issues, even though you may like them otherwise? You dont have anyone who you have known since childhood, who suddenly starts expressing untoward views?

So all your friends are from exactly the same ethinic, religious, social and economic background as you. Thats great

i talked about "visiting" because people are often freer with their opinions when theyre at home. not minding that they may be hurting your feelings

You can call whoever names, it doesnt change the fact that islamist terrorists have tarnished the reputation of that religion and its adherents are usually slow to condemn it

Good day

Originalsly:


This is a problem we have..... pot calling the kettle black and don't even know. We need to look at the message and not the messenger. Muslims is the only group popular for terrorism...ask yourself why. The answer is in the thread.... this guy killed all these people...but he is not labeled a terrorist. Why not? If he were a Muslim... would he be labeled a terrorist? Why?... then define who is a terrorist or what is a terrorist act. You agree the guy is mentally unstable.... when is a guy mentally unstable and when is he a terrorist? Isn't the defining factor his religion/colour? The terrorist killings in the church etc he mentioned.... I live in the US and I'm now learning of these...not surprising.... it is not widely covered in the news... but yet when a Muslim guy stabbed two people in France I couldn't escape the Islamic terrorist attack in France news even if I tried. Too many of us are gulping down the cool aid served by CNN..FOX etc... without tasting and it shows when we belch this kind comment. It's a shame.

Check waht you just posted does it not lebel him as a terorist? cso the word terorism is mentioned, anyone thats causes teroro is a terorist irrespective of where whom they are!

sonofElElyon:

Both are front page stories and the new Zealand killer was referred to as an evil far right mass killer...

I don't think he knows the meaning of far right as such a narrative does not exist where he lives!

He targetted muslims yes but it was because he saw them as a threat to the Caucasian way of life in new Zealand. Of course his actions were wrong but he never said he was fighting for Christ or christianity... He was not even a practising christian.. If he was a christian at all, it was just for the purpose of filling the portion of forms requesting for his religion! Read my earlier post and you will see that he was worried about white genocide. He felt non-caucasian emigrants (Muslims in this case) were capable of causing white genocide. In a 74-page manifesto that he posted on social media, Tarrant said he was a white supremacist who was out to avenge attacks in Europe perpetrated by Muslims. He obviously wanted to revenge the attacks by Isis and other similar groups. Obviously he is wrong but make no mistake, he never mentioned religion as a motivation, only white supremacy

ollah2:



Is the Mosque he went to kill comprised of only one race?
Are the Muslims in new zealand of one origin?


Tarrant the christian terrorist had traveled to the Balkans in the past three years, where he toured historic sites and apparently studied battles between Christians and the Ottoman empire.


Why did he go to the Mosques? Two different mosques for that matter and he even resisted arrest

2truthfulguy:


Timothy McVeigh ;killed 168 and injured 600
Dylan Roof,; killed 9. he want to kill black peoples

Mark David Chapman



Eric Robert Rudolph

Robert Lewis Dear

Mark Anthony Conditt,

Jay Merelle

Charles Barbee

Robert Berry

Peter James Knight

*Joseph Kony’s Lord’s Resistance Army

Eastern Lightning Cult

Manmasi National Christian Army

The National Liberation Front of Tripura

The Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland

Walisongo school massacre


all these are as worse as shekau and his devils.
so take religion out of it.
if these aren't christians then others too aren't muslims

You're clearly the one bringing religion into this. You're simply desperate to enjoy the pleasure of saying "yaayy!! there are also Christian terrorists too."

All the examples you gave above, how many of them declared that they were doing the killings for God or for their religious faith?.. Would be nice if you could provide an answer.

Instead of you to focus on trying to address members of your faith who keep tarnishing the image of your religion, you're here expending your entire time and energy trying to prove that there are also Christian terrorists. Obviously you think life is all about a meaningless Christian vs Muslim contest.

MYJIST:
See eh, everybody has a way of responding to issues, religious influence apart.. But you could read also that christians in that area condemned the attack. So why should MURIC in Nigeria decide to talk about it like christians were in support of it? For the record, i feel pained when people are killed. No reason justifies killing of any individual. And i also know that, God does not need me to fight, talk more of killing anybody for him. God does not need my help for anything at all.

Muric is insance but aren't Nairaland Christians the same? Those over there condemned it but not Senator Anning who used the book of Mathew to justify the killings and definitely not those on Nairaland who are happy about it would never condemn it yet you wanna blame me for facing you all and calling out your hypocrisy, bigotry and hatred.

sonofElElyon:
He targetted muslims yes but it was because he saw them as a threat to the Caucasian way of life in new Zealand. Of course his actions were wrong but he never said he was fighting for Christ or christianity... He was not even a practising christian.. If he was a christian at all, it was just for the purpose of filling the portion of forms requesting for his religion! Read my earlier post and you will see that he was worried about white genocide. He felt non-caucasian emigrants (Muslims in this case) were capable of causing white genocide. In a 74-page manifesto that he posted on social media, Tarrant said he was a white supremacist who was out to avenge attacks in Europe perpetrated by Muslims. He obviously wanted to revenge the attacks by Isis and other similar groups. Obviously he is wrong but make no mistake, he never mentioned religion as a motivation, only white supremacy

He targeted Muslims which makes it a religious act. There are Arab, Asian, African, Caucasian etc muslims in New Zealand. It's not Nigeria where you will most like find only Nigerian Muslims in a local Mosque. Tarrant's rifles contained the names of legendary Serbs and Montenegrins who fought against the 500-year-rule of the Muslim Ottomans in the Balkans, written in the Cyrillic alphabet used by the two Orthodox Christian nations but but but it's not religious according to folks like you

pureme01
majorjeffery
obailala

Nigerian Christians and their childish and idiotic responses, they never disappointed. Obailala even enjoyed the topic, he had to comment twice or more. Sickos

midnighter:


Lol its a pity that you are already very agitated and its stopping you from being rational. Youre right, I dont need to lie, because Im not lying.

So you have never had a friend who talks without thinking?? You dont have friends with whom you occasionally disagree on certain issues, even though you may like them otherwise? You dont have anyone who you have known since childhood, who suddenly starts expressing untoward views?

So all your friends are from exactly the same ethinic, religious, social and economic background as you. Thats great

i talked about "visiting" because people are often freer with their opinions when theyre at home. not minding that they may be hurting your feelings

You can call whoever names, it doesnt change the fact that islamist terrorists have tarnished the reputation of that religion and its adherents are usually slow to condemn it

Good day

You are lying no visiting friends of yours would openly tell you they support isis, in your attempt to call muslim negative names you tagged yourself a liar and bigot. People would rather say whatever online especially in a platform like Nairaland that physically but it's the other way round to you and ofcourse they are your friends. Lying liar

Only a mad man would support such an attack and also only a mad man would support attacks by Isis and similar groups. Innocent civilians should never be targeted. We should all learn to speak up when the innocent are being killed and not only when it is our own people. This applies to all of us. The perceived failure to condemn previous attacks may have created lack of empathy with respect to this current attack. This ought not to be so. Statements like yours also doesn't help matters. A wholesale condemnation of a faith and ALL its followers as hypocrites (you said hypocrisy is a christian) is wrong. Hate speech

ollah2:


I don't hate anybody but i hate hypocrisy and bigots. How many people condemned it on this thread? List the Christians that condemned it on this thread or even the original thread that hit the front page?

If my words doesn't hurt you, you wouldn't have said i hate Christians

Immigrants I meant.

sonofElElyon:
He targetted muslims yes but it was because he saw them as a threat to the Caucasian way of life in new Zealand. Of course his actions were wrong but he never said he was fighting for Christ or christianity... He was not even a practising christian.. If he was a christian at all, it was just for the purpose of filling the portion of forms requesting for his religion! Read my earlier post and you will see that he was worried about white genocide. He felt non-caucasian emigrants (Muslims in this case) were capable of causing white genocide. In a 74-page manifesto that he posted on social media, Tarrant said he was a white supremacist who was out to avenge attacks in Europe perpetrated by Muslims. He obviously wanted to revenge the attacks by Isis and other similar groups. Obviously he is wrong but make no mistake, he never mentioned religion as a motivation, only white supremacy

Hmmmmmm

sonofElElyon:
Only a mad man would support such an attack and also only a mad man would support attacks by Isis and similar groups. Innocent civilians should never be targeted. We should all learn to speak up when the innocent are being killed and not only when it is our own people. This applies to all of us. The perceived failure to condemn previous attacks may have created lack of empathy with respect to this current attack. This ought not to be so. Statements like yours also doesn't help matters. A wholesale condemnation of a faith and ALL its followers as hypocrites (you said hypocrisy is a christian) is wrong. Hate speech

These are few christians happy about the incidents. The same people that have monopolized heaven while others are going to hell since they didn't believe in jesus.

erico2k2:

Check waht you just posted does it not lebel him as a terorist? cso the word terorism is mentioned, anyone thats causes teroro is a terorist irrespective of where whom they are!

Yes.... not saying he is not at all labeled a witness...but no where near as widespread if he were a Muslim. .... the killer... the suspected shooter .... the lone wolf......are terms widely broadcast. The guy that killed 58 or so people in the US... the shooter. There is a double standard. The pic attached.... is that widely circulated?...is his comment about Trump widely circulated? Let's say if it were a Muslim and he said the same about a Muslim leader.... even the deaf would be hearing about it.

erico2k2:

Check waht you just posted does it not lebel him as a terorist? cso the word terorism is mentioned, anyone thats causes teroro is a terorist irrespective of where whom they are!

Yes.... not saying he is not at all labeled a witness...but no where near as widespread if he were a Muslim. .... the killer... the suspected shooter .... the lone wolf......are terms widely broadcast. The guy that killed 58 or so people in the US... the shooter. There is a double standard. The pic attached.... is that widely circulated?...is his comment about Trump widely circulated? Let's say if it were a Muslim and he said the same about a Muslim leader.... even the deaf would be hearing about it. Call a spade a spade.

kmcutez:


Looks more like a hate crime to me. Wonder if he went about shouting Jesus is Lord as he was shooting at them.

Do you know of any Christian Terrorist Organizations?

Seems the opposite of Muslim is now Christian. So which God is the devil, Allah or Yahweh?

Sometimes we sound hypocritical all in the name of defense. OK, till we hear him claim a certain religion or shout Jesus Christ before the mass murder for us to be sure he was a Christian. This is an attack on muslims which is very obvious, why is it taking CAN years to rubbish it. It is more than obvious it was a Christian against Muslim attack, Lolxxxxx.

maasoap:
pureme01
majorjeffery
obailala

Nigerian Christians and their childish and idiotic responses, they never disappointed. Obailala even enjoyed the topic, he had to comment twice or more. Sickos

Yes I commented several times because I am utterly disgusted by your intolerant ideology.

A murderous crimimal in far away NZ attacks a mosques. He claims he did so to preserve white supremacy (whatever that means); he never mentioned he was a Christian and neither did he mention that he did what he did because of Christ or for Christianity. So why exactly are you bringing Christianity into this?... MURIc and its sympathisers like yourself here in far away Nigeria have automatically turned it into a Muslim vs Christian issue; calling out Christians and calling out CAN. Of course we know the usual next step to expect, some misguided folks up north will soon go about burning churches. After all, MURIC has just given them a justification with its senseless inciting statements here that "Christians are attacking mosques in NZ."

Once again, I have commented several times on this thread because I am utterly disgusted by the kind of ideology you possess.

MUMURIC. All the jihads in NC and North Nigeria, you don't condemn.

NZL, loun loun Idiot people

OfficialMURIC:
We expect CAN to condemn this dastard act, as it is perpetrated by one of the followers of Jesus (pbuh). We also call on Nigeria government as a member of Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to donate money and other relief materials to the affected Muslim ummah in Newzealand.

Has your MUMURiC organization condemned the jihad in Nigeria in form of Fulani herdsmen?



Hypocrites!

So please tell us the Caucasian who was killed in the attack?
He also felt those who fought against the ottoman empire were heroes protecting and preserving the Caucasian civilisation.. Pretty much like how some people see alexander's grecian war with Persia..
The real reason why this kind of attacks persist is because we fail to condemn all such attacks vehemently but only do so when it affects our own people. He probably also felt he was avenging the several attacks by Isis, al Qaeda and similar groups which were and are being carried out against civilian Caucasians. We should always condemn such attacks even if our own people are not involved. It goes a long way if we always speak out against terror attacks of all kinds.
Again I reiterate that he was not motivated by religion. He doesn't care about Jesus or Allah.


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He targeted Muslims which makes it a religious act. There are Arab, Asian, African, Caucasian etc muslims in New Zealand. It's not Nigeria where you will most like find only Nigerian Muslims in a local Mosque. Tarrant's rifles contained the names of legendary Serbs and Montenegrins who fought against the 500-year-rule of the Muslim Ottomans in the Balkans, written in the Cyrillic alphabet used by the two Orthodox Christian nations but but but it's not religious according to folks like you
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ollah2:



Muric is insance but aren't Nairaland Christians the same? Those over there condemned it but not Senator Anning who used the book of Mathew to justify the killings and definitely not those on Nairaland who are happy about it would never condemn it yet you wanna blame me for facing you all and calling out your hypocrisy, bigotry and hatred.

Let's face facts... If MURIC didn't raise this issue... we won't be talking about this in the first place. I'm not saying this because i hate muslims. as a matter of fact, one of my close friend is a muslim, we relate very well. If I need help, he's amongst the first line of friends i'd contact for help. But major world terrorist organisations are islam affiliated, like it or not. What we're doing here, is exactly what MURIC wants. to incite hate. No Pastor will ever tell his congregation to kill a muslim. And you choose to see those who didn't condemn, over those who did condemn. You just saw what you wanted to see.

Originalsly:

Yes.... not saying he is not at all labeled a witness...but no where near as widespread if he were a Muslim. .... the killer... the suspected shooter .... the lone wolf......are terms widely broadcast. The guy that killed 58 or so people in the US... the shooter. There is a double standard. The pic attached.... is that widely circulated?...is his comment about Trump widely circulated? Let's say if it were a Muslim and he said the same about a Muslim leader.... even the deaf would be hearing about it. Call a spade a spade.

You should take time to study the narratives in the 1st instance and also see what the offender is for who they are.
This killer in question is a person who sat down plotted and thinks all Muslim within a certain area should die.
Now your questions are answered here
Does his actions affect the Security of the Country?
Do other people of different Religion feel threatened by his did?
Is he Acting by himself or as a group?
Was he suicidal?
Did he carry out his did in the name of Religion or belief?
All these are what the press take into account B4 they bring out a caption
NB, U might be surprised as well some of these headings are titled by Muslims as well.

ollah2:


He targeted Muslims which makes it a religious act. There are Arab, Asian, African, Caucasian etc muslims in New Zealand. It's not Nigeria where you will most like find only Nigerian Muslims in a local Mosque. Tarrant's rifles contained the names of legendary Serbs and Montenegrins who fought against the 500-year-rule of the Muslim Ottomans in the Balkans, written in the Cyrillic alphabet used by the two Orthodox Christian nations but but but it's not religious according to folks like you

Since it made it a religious act, did that also make him a christian?

ollah2:



You are lying no visiting friends of yours would openly tell you they support isis, in your attempt to call muslim negative names you tagged yourself a liar and bigot. People would rather say whatever online especially in a platform like Nairaland that physically but it's the other way round to you and ofcourse they are your friends. Lying liar

I wasnt even going to answer you. the thing is that youre too emotional. if you believe that your point stands you dont need to overreact

Look, you have reduced yourself to name-calling because i shared an anecdote which you cannot prove or disprove. youre actually making yourself look foolish and not me. its a shame

Both the initial comment and the reply was wrong. Hope you know? The replier isn't Christ like.
As for monopolising heaven, we believe Christ alone is the way to God and of course there is freedom of religion provided you don't compel others to believe. Muslims also believe only Muslims will go to heaven

ollah2:


These are few christians happy about the incidents. The same people that have monopolized heaven while others are going to hell since they didn't believe in jesus.

MYJIST:
Since it made it a religious act, did that also make him a christian?

You have eyes to read and brain to assimilate but as usual, always defending rather than condemning

maasoap:
pureme01
majorjeffery
obailala

Nigerian Christians and their childish and idiotic responses, they never disappointed. Obailala even enjoyed the topic, he had to comment twice or more. Sickos

Did he shout Jesus is Lord before shooting those people? Stop disturbing my mention Mr. Man?

midnighter:


I wasnt even going to answer you. the thing is that youre too emotional. if you believe that your point stands you dont need to overreact

Look, you have reduced yourself to name-calling because i shared an anecdote which you cannot prove or disprove. youre actually making yourself look foolish and not me. its a shame

i'm being factual and only a foool will believe your story. Anybody that lies to dent the image large some of people deserve to be called names and even spanked repeatedly until their heads begin to work again.

sonofElElyon:
Both the initial comment and the reply was wrong. Hope you know? The replier isn't Christ like.
As for monopolising heaven, we believe Christ alone is the way to God and of course there is freedom of religion provided you don't compel others to believe. Muslims also believe only Muslims will go to heaven

I never said the initial statement was right but didn't the other two christians take it to the next levels? They were happy it happened while wishing for more to happen and if you need more of it, head over to the initial thread so the see how happy they were and the number of likes those comments received then do the maths and you will see the hatred the christians are nursing in their hearts towards muslims yet they claim they are peace loving people and also tolerant.

Your faith and believe is respected as long as it's not pushed down anybody's throats to look like it's the creme de la creme calling theirs false and yours life.

erico2k2:


All these are what the press take into account B4 they bring out a caption

Really?.... so if he were Muslim and killed 40 random people in a Mall or on the streets because he was frustrated he was jobless....you really believe the media would not label him an Islamic terrorist?