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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by MJBOLT: 8:30am On Mar 31, 2019
only a fool would believe that 5 thousand people can be fed with 5 loaves of bread and 2 fishes

vizkiz:
Only a fool says there is no God

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by freethinker01: 8:31am On Mar 31, 2019
vizkiz:
Only a fool says there is no God
nah, it should have been a fool thinks there's no God and a wise man says it out loud.

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by b0rn2fuck(m): 8:31am On Mar 31, 2019
KAYSANTOS:
All these things are definitely the pure truth
not true

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Robisky001(m): 8:32am On Mar 31, 2019
Intelligent and coherent words can hardly change a sheer unbeliever, but an appearance by the one and only true God will turn their doubts to truth instantly.

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by burnaboss: 8:32am On Mar 31, 2019
OP. These things can never be true.

Have you ever wondered the type of mansion that God is supposed to build for you. Is it Sky Scrapper, Bungalow etc. Which one. Building designs were developed by man on this Earth

Have you ever wondered if you can use your phone, Television etc. Phones and Electronics were invented by men on this Earth

Have you ever wondered what you will wear in heaven. Is it polo, shirt, suit, gown etc. Clothes and other fashion accessories were made by men on this Earth.

Have you ever wondered if you would know yourself, like your name and that you were from Nigeria while on Earth.

If you would, then you would remember Buhari, WizKid, Davido and all others. The secularity is still there so you are prone to sinning again.

If you would not remember, you will not know yourself, you won't even know what took you to where you are. You won't know your family anymore.

The question is, What will you be doing in heaven?

Talk of hell

The flaw is eternity, do you know what that means, Forever and ever without end. It is funny to imagine that such a thing can happen. Human beings live to die one day and then you think you would come back in spirit form and then live forever. Do you believe a spirit can scream and cry because of flames burning it and that same flame won't kill it.

Heaven and hell cannot be a place, they do not exist. It is the type of things you read in fairytale and watch in myth movies like Hercules, Clash of the Titans and the rest.

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Nobody: 8:32am On Mar 31, 2019
U believe in God . God is a Good God and devil is a bad devil if we have positive and negative, black and white, left and right, front and back, why won't there be heaven and hell.

Choose this day whom you will serve.

You can't serve 2 Master's at a time . Is either you hate another or you love one.

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by burnaboss: 8:34am On Mar 31, 2019
Brighte:
U believe in God . God is a Good God and devil is a bad devil if we have positive and negative, black and white, left and right, front and back, why won't there be heaven and hell.

Choose this day whom you will serve.

You can't serve 2 Master's at a time . Is either you hate another or you love one.

Both God and the Devil is Imaginary

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Nobody: 8:40am On Mar 31, 2019
burnaboss:


Both God and the Devil is Imaginary

Ephesians 6:12, "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by namiji2598: 8:43am On Mar 31, 2019
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THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF GODS WORSHIPED BY LIVING HUMANS IN 2019. HUNDREDS OF RELIGIONS.
WITHOUT BIAS AND WITH RATIONAL THINKING, THE CHANCE THAT YOUR PREFERRED RELIGION AND FAVORITE GOD IS THE TRUTH IS VERY SLIM.

WHAT IF YOU'RE WRONG AND ISLAM IS THE TRUE RELIGION, AND ALLAH IS UP THERE WHEN YOU DIE?

WHAT IF YOU FIND SANGO? WHAT IF YOU FIND VISHNU?
YOU'VE WASTED YOUR LIFE WORSHIPPING THE WRONG THING AND YOU'LL BE HEADING TO HELL.
NO ASSURANCE FOR YOU. STOP DREAMING.




THERE ARE ALSO MANY CHRISTIANS THAT ARE NOW BUDDHISTS AND MUSLIMS. SOME ARE MORMONS AS WELL.

PEOPLE'S CONVERSION BETWEEN RELIGIONS IS NOT ANY EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF A SUPREME BEING WHO DOESN'T ONLY EXISTS, BUT ALSO DEMANDS ONE TENTH OF OUR MONTHLY INCOME, AND DICTATES WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH OUR SEXUAL ORGANS! undecided
there is nothing like Allah, it's either God or no God, which kind talk come be Islam again
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by namiji2598: 8:44am On Mar 31, 2019
freethinker01:
nah, it should have been a fool thinks there's no God and a wise man says it out loud.
!men this ur statement strong ooo
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by CAPSLOCKED: 8:46am On Mar 31, 2019
namiji2598:

there is nothing like Allah, it's either God or no God, which kind talk come be Islam again

WETIN BE YAHWEH?
WHICH KIND NONSENSE TALK BE CHRISTIANITY? undecided

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by chinebu(m): 8:47am On Mar 31, 2019
SchmidtHammer:
In finding the truth all possible subjects involved must be considered. What God do you speak of? What particular religion are you talking of here? There are several other religion that would boast of being the only route to God just as convincingly as you profess your own beliefs




As long as GOD is worshiped there, it's the same all over
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 8:48am On Mar 31, 2019
hopefulLandlord:
OP is preaching the already proven to be nonsensical Pascal's Wager

The main problem with Pascal's wager is the fallacy of False Dilemma. It only offers two options when there are at least five alternatives:
The Christian God and afterlife, some other god and afterlife, some god and no afterlife, atheism with afterlife, and atheism without afterlife. In addition, because of the multitude of possible gods, if any god is as likely as another, the probability of the Christian being right is P=1/n where n is the number of possible gods. If we assume that there is an infinite number of possible gods, the probability being right is infinitely small. Since there is an infinitely large probability of picking the wrong god, one could go to some other god's version of hell. This is referred to as the "avoiding the wrong hell problem"
The question of Pascal's Wager is easily defeated by the observation that the wager is predicated on the existence of only one god that being a Christian god. If the wager were efficient then why prefer any one god. All of humanities gods should be eligible for the possibility of existence and therefore you should worship all gods to fully satisfy Pascal's Wager. That of course would fly into the face of declarations of many those gods where that being should be worshiped above all others presumably because of that gods' penchant for envy/jealousy.


Also Mr OP. What if God actually exists but only atheists would be allowed into heaven? I find it bizarre how theists never thought about that possibility. like we die and God goes "HopefulLandlord, I exist but the test is to weed out those that would believe something on no evidence, you passed. you may pass"

Pascal's wager - I came to say this. Nice summary. Did you study philosophy ?
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by namiji2598: 8:49am On Mar 31, 2019
SunnyskyTG:
This is my Belief.

The so-called Prophets were Philosophers of their Time, even the so-called Holy Books were written by the past Philosophers through their connection to the Infinite Intelligence.

It baffles me when some people comes out and tell me that the book with numbered pages is the Word of God. Whenever you state an opinion outside the context of the so-called Word of God, they label you an Antichrist.

Are you guys trying to tell me the Words God Spoke, Speaks and can ever Speak have been concealed in a book? If you think am crazy, can anyone compress all your spoken words since the day you were born till this time in a Book? If no one can, why is God's case different?
Remember, He's the Omnipotent.

There is More to God Almighty than the so-called Holy Books.
the Bible is a book, the words of God are already spoken by God but are written by wise men into a book which is called the Bible, remember the Bible says that "heaven and Earth shall comes to an end but not a single word of God can be destroyed" if that's the case u can destroy the Bible but u can never destroy the word of God
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by driand(m): 8:51am On Mar 31, 2019
CallMeGod:

Yes you're right...the Bible is true because it claims there in the bible that it's true...the only point the Bible has to back up it's claim that God exists is by claiming that whoever refuses to believe is a fool

It's just like I writ a book claiming that I saw unicorns.. and the only thing I have to back up my claim is by saying whoever doesn't believe my story is an idiot..that how reasonable the Bible is grin
are you saying you've never experienced anything beyond natural?
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Nobody: 8:54am On Mar 31, 2019
namiji2598:

the Bible is a book, the words of God are already spoken by God but are written by wise men into a book which is called the Bible, remember the Bible says that "heaven and Earth shall comes to an end but not a single word of God can be destroyed" if that's the case u can destroy the Bible but u can never destroy the word of God
Going by ur response, it seems to me you know nothing about the history of the Bible.
Just like the great Philosophers and Writers like Napoleon Hill, Dale Carnegie, Brian Tracy, Zig Ziglar, John C. Maxwell etcetera wrote books that contains the Principles of Success. The same way the Philosophers of those Ages wrote books that prepared us for this generation.

There's only one reason why majority people struggle with Life, that is the "Lack of Understanding of Life".

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by namiji2598: 8:54am On Mar 31, 2019
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WETIN BE YAHWEH?
WHICH KIND NONSENSE TALK BE CHRISTIANITY? undecided
I DNT give a damn shit abt Christianity, Christianity is jus a way of life,am talking abt God nt religion, though I believe in God but am in my room every Sunday jus as Today am also in my room but nt church but I DNT really believe in church and Christianity
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Nobody: 8:58am On Mar 31, 2019
driand:
are you saying you've never experienced anything beyond natural?
no I've never experienced such..with a little investigation..there's a logical and scientific explanation behind every "mysterious event"
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by SchmidtHammer: 8:58am On Mar 31, 2019
chinebu:





As long as GOD is worshiped there, it's the same all over
Well atleast they all desire the same thing, WORSHIP. Why would an omnipotent God require that his creation worship him? I infact do not believe I can make a 'believer' see otherwise, not with all the logical arguments he/she might have encountered with before me.
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by driand(m): 9:03am On Mar 31, 2019
CallMeGod:
no I've never experienced such..with a little investigation..there's a logical and scientific explanation behind every "mysterious event"
good I'll engage you on that, what do you say about ritualists who use human parts to make charms for money?

Again, what do you have to say about bullet prove charms, someone gets shot and clothes torn but they are unharmed not even a scratch?

What power do you think is involved in all that?
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Otuwewe(m): 9:05am On Mar 31, 2019
You are a fool call me god.Psalm 136-God hv dealth wit famous kings let alone an idiot,holigan,riff-raff and a no body like u.He wil visit u sooner dan u think and u wil be d one 2 confess dat JESUS IS LORD.
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by phantom(m): 9:06am On Mar 31, 2019
CallMeGod:
It's a simple task no theist has been able to accomplish ..to hell with all this blabbing..prove that God exists!!
Can you prove he doesn't since we all want to sound intelligent...lol
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Interesting15: 9:06am On Mar 31, 2019
ManWithNoName:
Bullshit upon bullshit.

But what if all these things are true?
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Nobody: 9:07am On Mar 31, 2019
malvisguy212:
Another reason for rejecting God (choosing
atheism), is a willing acceptance of satanic
deception. The angel Lucifer (“luminous one”) fell
and became Satan (“adversary”) due to his desire
to supplant God. This was Lucifer’s single,
minded obsession. He not only rejected God by
attempting to supplant Him, but he urged
humans to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to
choose against God for her own self-fulfilment:.

Genesis 3:1-5
He said to the woman, “Did God actually say,
‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?”
And the woman said to the serpent, “We may
eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but
God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the
tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither
shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent
said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For
God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will
be opened, and you will be like God, knowing
good and evil.”.

Let us analyze this verses:..

The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s
statements, then, contradict God’s statements
and, finally, urge rebellion in seeking equality
with God.

This manifest in atheists as :

1.Questioning whether there is a God to make
statements in the first place, so God did not say
anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to have
been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing God
with the self.

This satanic deception appeals strongly to
atheists as it bolsters two of their desired
delusions: 1) absolute autonomy being free to
do as they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate
accountability,there are no eternal
consequences for doing as they please.

Do u really blame the atheist now..??. Yes, the appearance of God's awesomeness is all around us they should see it and believe but u know it's not that simple as there are opposing power and influences using man made science and philosophical ideologies..our supposed chriatains that claim to beleive in God and Jesus and the spirit yet live a life of continuous rebellion make the name of the lord mocked in their lives....

still God cannot be mocked...I think if every chriatains live a life true discipleship commanding the supernatural indeed...the true distinction btw those that the righteous and those that are will be clear as written in Mal 3v18.... or ddnt God say in Isa 60 clearly say that gentiles will come to the brightness of his Glory our lives...many chriatains have lost their glory or saltness..ddnt the word say there's no longer usefulness but trampling upon....ask an average christain to preach trinity or the divinity of Jesus to an unbeleiver, he will only have the person and himself confused....he will end up saying "it's spiritual mystery..just believe"...even Jesus ddnt shove his divinity down our throats...
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by peacettw: 9:08am On Mar 31, 2019
Blakjewelry:
what if you die op and find yourself in Zeus or Odin lair?

Hahahaha. With Loki standing watch

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Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Nobody: 9:09am On Mar 31, 2019
First, tell us which god you are talking about. If it's jesus, what if Muhammed is right that jesus is in hell getting hot oil poured on him? Do you think his followers have any chance? Do you think you are liable to hell in more than hundred other religions?
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Otuwewe(m): 9:11am On Mar 31, 2019
[quote author=nineone post=77137972]First, tell us which god you are talking about. If it's jesus, what if Muhammed is right that jesus is in hell getting hot oil poured on him? Do you think his followers have any chance? Do you think you are liable to hell in more than hundred other religions?Fool
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Nobody: 9:13am On Mar 31, 2019
phantom:

Can you prove he doesn't since we all want to sound intelligent...lol
another fultile attempt to shift the burden of proof.
You come out with a claim that a God exists, the onus falls on you to prove your claim...show me evidence!!
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Greenback: 9:18am On Mar 31, 2019
Interesting15:


One of the strategies the devil has been using to prevent people from coming to the Light of Christ is to make them doubt the existence of God, the supernatural world, and the Salvation package; and to prevent them from being 'rational indeed'

For some people, after hearing preachings of spiritual truths from Christians, they keep their hearts hardened, and concluded that there is no iota of truth in the claims.

"How can you say there is a God up there?", "Who created that God?" "It is a lie", "There is nothing like Heaven or hell", "It makes no sense", "It's all a lie"

But wait: What if all these are actually true. What if, after you die some day, you then discover that God actually exists, and that He has actually prepared everlasting bliss in Heaven for those who accepted His Son Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior?

Look at it from that perspective: What if the preachers are actually right in regards to their preachings about Hell Fire?

If you claimed to be a reasonable person, and you failed to think in this direction at some point, then something is wrong somewhere.

Having such thoughts like this should prompt you into taking steps to be on the safe side. So, when you die, and you discover that God really exists, and that He will judge you according to your works while on earth, you can be sure of justification.

How can you be on the safe side? Simply by accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior of your life. It's so simple. Pray to Him wherever you are now and ask Him to come into your life...

What if all these things are really true?

Remember, there are many Christians today who used to be staunch atheists. But the Lord Jesus revealed Himself to them, and they are now part of His fold.

What if all these things are true?

"And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to everyone according to his work. I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last" Revelation 22: 12,13

God bless you
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by Nobody: 9:19am On Mar 31, 2019
driand:
good I'll engage you on that, what do you say about ritualists who use human parts to make charms for money?

Again, what do you have to say about bullet prove charms, someone gets shot and clothes torn but they are unharmed not even a scratch?

What power do you think is involved in all that?
yes I've heard those stories too... Unfortunately I have never witnessed them up close to get the full picture.. I've never seen it on video to analyze.
But equally I have heard, seen, watched those who were killed despite all the charms they wore
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by malvisguy212: 9:20am On Mar 31, 2019
Blakjewelry:
what if you die op and find yourself in Zeus or Odin lair?
let me see their scripture, is there punishment of hell for not following this gods ?
Re: What If All These Things Are Really True? by 3kay945(m): 9:21am On Mar 31, 2019
Where is this dude *thehomer* ? cool

Your favourite thread is here. grin

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