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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Omooba224: 11:26am On Apr 04, 2019
Seyibayo:

You are not serious..., majority of Nigerians can't comprehend what you are saying...brace for impact
You need to re-enrol for elementary English class. Thanks.

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by HeyCorleone(m): 11:26am On Apr 04, 2019
Mariangeles:
Nigerian atheists are most times lawless and without principles .

They have no respect because it means nothing to them.
They behave however they please with no conscience.
Nothing guides there emotions.
They'll hurt and disrespect you without remorse.
Mostly cold hearted.
They're even more dangerous.

So...so Christians and Muslims aren't dangerous?

Not an atheist myself. But I see no difference, in behaviour, between those who are religious and atheists.

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Hunun6: 11:26am On Apr 04, 2019
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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Iamgrey5(m): 11:27am On Apr 04, 2019
See how Oga Seun rush put the post for front page.
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Afonja007: 11:28am On Apr 04, 2019
[quote author=HeyCorleone post=77254699]I think someone's religious orientation or belief is quite inconsequential when it comes to holding a government position.

Come to think of it, all the Christians and Muslims holding a position today, how have they made an impact? Isn't our VP a Pastor? Are things any better?

The big question should be if an individual merits the post. That's all. [/quote /not in a country like Nigeria inshort not in any black country ?do you know how tribalist avarage black person is?let me ask one question, do you know why ports in porharcout calabar or warri is not working?they are not working because government don't want it to work they know it will reduce IGR of Lagos state that's the carrot northerners are using to secure SW votes, no don't tell me you don't mind
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by jrusky(m): 11:29am On Apr 04, 2019
Omooba224:
Abimbola Adelakun

On Friday, the Christian Association of Nigeria visited President MuhammaduBuhari to congratulate him on his re-election. During their visit, theyurged the President to observe religious balance in the composition of his cabinet in his second term. They also requested that, for the 9th National Assembly, either the Senate President or Speaker of the House of Representatives should be a Christian. They reasoned that since the President is a Muslim and the acting Chief Justice of Nigeria also professes the Islamic faith, the country needs a Christian in the legislative arm of government to give everyone a sense of fairness and belonging.CAN’s brazenness in making such demands is, perhaps, informed by a similar assault recently against reason by the advocacy group, Muslim Rights Concern. MURIC had asked Buhari to appoint Muslim ministers from five ofthe states in the South-West when he puts the cabinet together. The group claimed that it was theonly way to redress the imbalance of having only one Muslim governor in the geopolitical zone.Now, when confrontedwith this kind of an impasse, there is a tendency to resort to the predictable response that the overriding determinant in makingthese appointments should be merit and not religion. We shouldmove past that level already since the logicis too basic to penetrate the minds of those who need it. Those of us who have a liberal mindset towards religious identity politics need to take those who advocate religion as qualification seriously. We should treat their demands with the same gravity as politicians do. Just last year, Vice President Yemi Osinbajo, while responding to charges of nepotism in Buhari’s government, claimed that Christians outnumber Muslims in Federal Government appointments. He pointed out that although the cabinet had 18 Christians and 18 Muslims, the former still upend thelatter since both the Secretary to the Government of the Federation and the Head of Service are Christians.The preciseness of Osinbajo’s response shows that they do not toy with the opticsof religious politics. Itis a reality of our political situation thatreligion has become an idea of merit and we should deal with it on those terms. As a society, we have long arrived at a point where our politics have been reduced to the worship of the twin Baal of geopolitics and religious partisanship.In the last election, the tribes of the electoral candidates and their religion featured more in our discourses than their leadership capability. There is almost a consensus that all the candidates are equally meritocratic — or incompetent — and so nobody wastes time weighing their administrative abilities. They only need to get into office and things will sort themselves out.

Following CAN’s suggestion that Buhari should observe“ethnic and religious” balance in future appointments, I suggest that slots should be reserved for atheists as well. They too deserve representation.I know that such a suggestion immediately puts us in a messy terrain. Who is a “Christian” or “Muslim” in Nigerian politics anyway? The Nigerian political class is mostly composed of moral nihilists, or at best, agnostics. The others mix their putative religion with patronisingBabalawosin their shrines at night. During the day, they all claim a Muslim or Christian religious identity because they have no choice. All political appointmentsare distributed between both sides; there is nothing ever set aside for those who fall outside the religious boxes.

I acknowledge that there are many religious movements outside the Christian/Muslim dichotomy and they also deserve to be represented in government. However,we have to be mindful of the fact that too many faiths will stall appointments. In 2015, it took six months to select 18 Christians and 18 Muslims. We do not need that kind of slow motion this time. Besides, the Babalawos are already represented through proxies — thepoliticians who go to shrines to optimise their access to supernatural power by mixing and matching the Abrahamic God with Africanist beliefs. Atheists are the only ones who have been consciously left out ofthe party and there are many good reasons they deserve a seat at the table.

One, atheists do not have a smokescreen that enables them to falsely propagate virtues they do not have. If an atheist in apolitical office turns out to be as corrupt as their religious counterparts, it is easier to take them down. We will not have to blow their religious decoy to reveal their hypocrisy. They are not superstitious. So they are not going to blame a money-eatingsnake; nor are they going to attribute their susceptibility to temptation to Satan. They will admit they did it because they toowant to enjoy the good life. Simple.

Two, since they will not be going to churchor mosque for any reason, they are not likely to loot public funds as much as those who wear their religion with their agbada robes. They donot have any religious leader to “settle,” andnobody is going to ask them to donate a building to their church or mosque. Think of how much money Nigeria will save if the corruption pipeline that runs from public offices toreligious houses were cut off.

Three, if an atheist rigs an election, he will keep the illegitimate victory to himself, at least. He will not go to church to share a “God did it” testimony. Nigerian politicians attribute their victory at the polls to God, even when they rob the collective wealth to fund those elections. By going to church or mosque to register their gratitude, they are legitimising a lie and manipulating people. Atheists will not do that.

Four, atheists will approach their work with far more clear-headedness since theydo not believe that any God is guiding their affairs. They will not ape a minister whose chief requirement before appointments is “fear of God.” Also, becausethey know they do not have a godfather, there is the marginal possibility they would be better behaved in government.

Five, there are not enough atheists in the world at present to form a religious movement. For the most part, they walk alone. The upside is that there will not be organisations like either CAN or MURIC to canvass for anything on their behalf.

Six, and this is important – atheists will be invaluable to the government because they typicallyquestion received knowledge. They do not attribute human phenomenon to some supernatural force. They are quite rational. It is no coincidence that some of the most developedcountries in the world today are full of atheists, while the ones that are religious by default are, by all indices, mostly backward. There is a correlation between giving room for probing questions.
I could go on and on, but you should be convinced by now that atheists deserve cabinet positions because their atheism is enough merit to qualify them for the job. If Christians and Muslims can advance such logic, then we should extend it to atheists as well. It is only fair. By the way, I believe that Nigeria probably has more non-believers than believers. However, because most social goodies are divided based on religion, many people indulge in the rituals of worship to a God they do not care for. It is time to open the religious closet and free our politicians from their hypocrisy. There are multiple benefits to be derivedfrom such openness. Nobody will be disqualified for a position they might actually qualify for on account of not being either Christian or Muslim. Even much better, nobody has to pretend they believe in God so they can be appointed to such positions. And the best part of it? People like Prof. Akintola and the leadership of CAN willgo find another job.

Mr man how did you woke up this morning?

And may I ask you to define Atheist

You better go buy brain or borrow one if even fairly used one. Keep deceiving yourself with that meaningless no logical senses craps called Atheist.

Not only atheist you should have called it Athen or Athois. Better park one side.

Go Aso Rock go tell Buhari in here Buhari from Atheist kingdom I need appointment for the citizen of Atheist ok.
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Nobody: 11:32am On Apr 04, 2019
@op and what will be used to swear them in?but to be frank you made sense...appointment should be made on the basis of merit and not along religious line.
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by samsam2019: 11:33am On Apr 04, 2019
Mariangeles:
Nigerian atheists are most times lawless and without principles .

They have no respect because it means nothing to them.
They behave however they please with no conscience.
Nothing guides there emotions.
They'll hurt and disrespect you without remorse.
Mostly cold hearted.
They're even more dangerous.
this has to be the most senseless comment ever out on internet.



Can you provide any proof of all you listed here?


So far, 99.99% of crimes in Nigeria are committed by religious folks

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by MeetDx(m): 11:33am On Apr 04, 2019
97% of Nigerians are religious; in fact atheism is alien to majority of Africans, so what's the dullard talking about? Smh!
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by idonhammer: 11:35am On Apr 04, 2019
HappyPagan:
ogbonge herbalist spotted(

Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Omooba224: 11:35am On Apr 04, 2019
This is the link to the article. http://punchng.com/atheists-too-deserve-buharis-cabinet-appointment/
The first thread with the link was closed for multiple posting..
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by IMAliyu(m): 11:36am On Apr 04, 2019
agylistic77:
As long as they are Nigerians and competent..after all
Muslim see christain as pagan the northern Christian will understand what I'm saying.. I have seen an Hausa call yoruba Muslim Aa-ri-ne
That word translates to outsider, not pegan
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Chedas: 11:36am On Apr 04, 2019
GOOD POINT EVEN ATHEISTS BELIEVE IN SOMETHING TOO! BESIDES WE ARE GOING THRU OUR OWN DARK AGE WHERE PEOPLE ARE RULED BY RELIGION SUPERSTITION AND FEAR. IT WILL PASS. EUROPE HAD THEIRS. FRANCE WAS AMONG THE FIRST TO BREAK FREE BEFORE OTHERS FOLLOWED. NAIJA WE GO WISE UP LAS LAS...

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Satan66(m): 11:37am On Apr 04, 2019
As an atheist
This is moronic.
Government positions should have nothing to do with religion but the mindset of the individual.
Every atheist and religious person is different.
Religion and government activities should be two different things entirely

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by pulsa(m): 11:37am On Apr 04, 2019
jrusky:


Mr man how did you woke up this morning?

And may I ask you to define Atheist

You better go buy brain or borrow one if even fairly used one. Keep deceiving yourself with that meaningless no logical senses craps called Atheist.

Not only atheist you should have called it Athen or Athois. Better park one side.

Go Aso Rock go tell Buhari in here Buhari from Atheist kingdom I need appointment for the citizen of Atheist ok.

Firstly your written English sucks,
Secondly how is Athens(Greece) related to the atheist word.

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by krushdripper(m): 11:38am On Apr 04, 2019
Mariangeles:
Nigerian atheists are most times lawless and without principles .

They have no respect because it means nothing to them.
They behave however they please with no conscience.
Nothing guides there emotions.
They'll hurt and disrespect you without remorse.
Mostly cold hearted.
They're even more dangerous.
This is a false assumption that can only be true about you being atheist. I guess you missed the part where OP informed about them stable and progressive countries being composed mainly of atheists (e.g Norway), your assumption CANNOT apply to all Nigerian atheists.

There are people in this country that value morals and general good and are no where near religious, You seem to have just spoken about yourself.

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Chinashopping84: 11:39am On Apr 04, 2019
okk
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Blue3k(m): 11:39am On Apr 04, 2019
shina277:
@op and what will be used to swear them in

You dont need anything just take the oath.
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by jrusky(m): 11:39am On Apr 04, 2019
pulsa:


Firstly your written English sucks,
Secondly how is Athens(Greece) related to the atheist word.

Your headache.

Go and ask Google professor of English.
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by bhouze(m): 11:40am On Apr 04, 2019
they will come for you...
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by ibkayee(f): 11:40am On Apr 04, 2019
Why not? We all know politics in Nigeria is governed by religious sentiments but isn’t it ‘officially’ supposed to be a secular state? (I could be wrong)

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Lionsbet: 11:40am On Apr 04, 2019
I'm an agnostic
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Sholaco: 11:42am On Apr 04, 2019
grin
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Nobody: 11:44am On Apr 04, 2019
Blue3k:

You dont need anything just take the oath.
well..but its quite tricky
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Omooba224: 11:44am On Apr 04, 2019
Mariangeles:
Nigerian atheists are most times lawless and without principles .

They have no respect because it means nothing to them.
They behave however they please with no conscience.
Nothing guides there emotions.
They'll hurt and disrespect you without remorse.
Mostly cold hearted.
They're even more dangerous.
Sorry bros! You are not making sense. How does atheism depict danger? It is just a philosophical position, mention recorded cases where atheists engaged in one criminal activity or two in this country particularly. In fact, atheism values lives than you could ever imagined. Stop showcasing your hatred for them it is bad for your health.

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by eyinjuege: 11:47am On Apr 04, 2019
Sango worshippers also need appointment please
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by toggy: 11:49am On Apr 04, 2019
in actual fact, most Nigerian Politicians are Atheists, even some religious leaders. that is why we are wiitnessing so many lawlessness and injustice in the land. forget the cover up of going to church and other things.

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by JeogahII(m): 11:52am On Apr 04, 2019
"twin Baal" Nigeria atheists (do we even have one?) case close. In Nigeria we only have people who go to Church/Mosque and people who don't but atheism in Nigeria, no! we don't have one. How do you defend atheism in Nigeria? wait may your village people come for you, you go know say God exist.
Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by famouscargo4u: 11:53am On Apr 04, 2019
Nigeria will never develop if we keep holding religious and tribal sentiments. If an igbo man or Hausa man have this then Yoruba too must have that. If Yoruba does this, why not Igbo? If Christian is a president, we expect VP to be Muslim. What is wrong with us?? I know of a state in the East if you are not a Roman Catholic member you can't be a governor or hold a serious political position. What has happened to us?!

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Re: Atheists, Too, Deserve Buhari's Cabinet Appointments by Sluvist(m): 12:03pm On Apr 04, 2019
When religion devides during election there is no strong move to check it but now that it comes to taking the sensitive positions they started singing the music of unity . Those peoples with their hypocrisy!!!

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