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Janosky:
If Jehovah sends one of his angels to read and explain Deu10:17, Psalms 82:1,6 & Isaiah 9:6 to you, you would continue to argue with Jehovah's messenger.

You always lie ,argue blindly and you will never admit the truth even if na Angel show am to you.
Lying Pharisee dey form Christian.

CANTICLES:
You lie too much

We read: “Jehovah raised a savior up for the sons of Israel that he might save them, Othniel the son of Kenaz, the younger brother of Caleb.” (Judg. 3:9)


Othniel was called a SAVIOUR . stop telling lies, it won't help you.

So how many Saviours does Isreal have?

One gave the other that title , shouldn't that tell you who is superior?

For Jehovah and othniel to be called saviour means they are equal , Shebi ? so pathetic

Who says this ?

Do you agree othniel and Jehovah are SAVIOURS, how many Saviour does isreal have?

Until u learn what it means when one gave a title to another to carry out his own purpose, you will continue to get confused

Janosky:
If Jehovah sends one of his angels to read and explain Deu10:17, Psalms 82:1,6 & Isaiah 9:6 to you, you would continue to argue with Jehovah's messenger.

You always lie ,argue blindly and you will never admit the truth even if na Angel show am to you.
Lying Pharisee dey form Christian.

ChristianNorth:
In Matthew 13:41, Jesus said that he would sent forth HIS angels.

This is not possible if he is not a God.

In Mark 2: 5-11 Jesus clearly demonstrated his power to forgive sins. Can you explain how he got that authority?

In John 14:13, Jesus asked us to pray in his name and he would do it. Not his father would it.

In 1 Cor 1:24 Jesus is called the power of God.

How do you explain all these?

In your New World Translation, Colossian 2:9 states
"because it is in him that ALL the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily."

My emphasis is on the "ALL the fullness of divine quality" can you explain what that means?

Titus 2:13 "looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,"

How do you explain this away?

This one is from Peter (2 Pet 1:1) "Simon Peter, a bond-servant and bapostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

I am waiting for your explanations.

Emusan:
They can't explain those verses rather you will see how they'll twist it...to say what scripture didn't say.

That Titus and 2 Peter have been corrupted by their NWT,

Emusan:
Show me where man and angels were called MIGHTY GOD in the scripture that's what I asked you.



Mr saint and angel, all I asked for is to...

Show me where man and angels were called MIGHTY GOD in the scripture that's what I asked you.

ChristianNorth:
In Matthew 13:41, Jesus said that he would sent forth HIS angels.

This is not possible if he is not a God.

In Mark 2: 5-11 Jesus clearly demonstrated his power to forgive sins. Can you explain how he got that authority?

In John 14:13, Jesus asked us to pray in his name and he would do it. Not his father would it.

In 1 Cor 1:24 Jesus is called the power of God.

How do you explain all these?

In your New World Translation, Colossian 2:9 states
"because it is in him that ALL the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily."

My emphasis is on the "ALL the fullness of divine quality" can you explain what that means?

Titus 2:13 "looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,"

How do you explain this away?

This one is from Peter (2 Pet 1:1) "Simon Peter, a bond-servant and bapostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

I am waiting for your explanations.

ChristianNorth:
Read 1 Tim 3:15,16 with your New World Translation. The koko be say, it still agreed that God was manifested in the flesh.

ChristianNorth:
There is no single christian organisation that recognises Jesus as the supreme god.

You guys understanding of trinity is wacked and the way you people depicts it graphically is so stupid.

Trinity is the union of the father, son and Holy spirit as one. This means there is one God who exists in 3 dimensions. They are the same and yet separate.


If he is given the title mighty God, then he is a God. It is as simple as that.

Keep interpreting the Bible to suit your warped ideologies, the truth remains that Jesus is a God.

You guys believe that everything that was made was made by Jesus, that Jehovah created only Jesus, the first born of all creations.

Yeah, you are right because the Bible said so.

The same Bible said, in the beginning God created Heaven and Earth.

If you believe that God created everything and that everything that was made was made through Jesus, then simple logic says he is a God.

Jesus is A God not God.

ChristianNorth:
In Matthew 13:41, Jesus said that he would sent forth HIS angels.

This is not possible if he is not a God.

In Mark 2: 5-11 Jesus clearly demonstrated his power to forgive sins. Can you explain how he got that authority?

In John 14:13, Jesus asked us to pray in his name and he would do it. Not his father would it.

In 1 Cor 1:24 Jesus is called the power of God.

How do you explain all these?

In your New World Translation, Colossian 2:9 states
"because it is in him that ALL the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily."

My emphasis is on the "ALL the fullness of divine quality" can you explain what that means?

Titus 2:13 "looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,"

How do you explain this away?

This one is from Peter (2 Pet 1:1) "Simon Peter, a bond-servant and bapostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have received faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ:

I am waiting for your explanations.

Barristter07:

Are you so uninformed and ignorant not to know EL GIBBOA was applied to humans ?

Janosky:
You shot yourself in the foot with these your posts ,the first one dey North pole and the 2nd one stand jelely for South pole.
"Jesus is a God,not God"
U come dey misquote Bible verses wey U no know their meaning.
Christian Not is very confused. He
is on NL transmitting his confusion.
Matt13:41. Mark2:5-11. John14:13
"Jesus spoke to them: ALL authority has been given me in heaven and on earth" by Jehovah. Matt28:18.
Jehovah the Father of Jesus granted life and authority to his son .John 5:26,27.
Jesus always perform his Father's command ( John 12:49)
Jesus is a deity and saviour,it's no proof he is the Supreme God. Col2:9 simply confirmed that Jesus has qualities of a deity (divine nature).
John 3:16 is valid.
**"We have seen and do testify that the Father sent the son to be Saviour of the world" 1john4:14
U dey misquote 2 Pet1:1&
Titus2:13 whereas Titus3:4-6 has annulled your wacky twist of Scripture.
The scriptures can NOT be broken (or twisted) says Jesus ( John 10:34-36)

Janosky:
**1Tim3:15,16 NWT
"But in case I am delayed ,that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in God's household,which is the congregation of the living God, a pillar and support of the truth"
v16"Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: He was made manifest in flesh"

Christian Not doing what he knows best-- Lying Pharisee he is in word & deed.

Your lies have caught up with you.

Barristter07:
no one dispute Jesus is a god .

You already admitted he isn't the supreme being
during your chat with canticles .

Case closed.

ChristianNorth:
I don't think any Christian denomination is claiming that Jesus is Supreme God.

The crux of my argument is Trinity. If Jesus is a God, then Trinity is. Since he is, then the doctrine of trinity is valid.

haywizzy007:
I really want to understand your own version of the trinity ...can you answer Yes to this question?

Is the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit coequal, coeternal and copowerful?

ChristianNorth:
Remove co-equal because no christian denomination believes that Jesus is the supreme being. He is a God, the second in the Godhead and has all the attributes of the father in fullness.

Barristter07:

Are you so uninformed and ignorant not to know EL GIBBOA was applied to humans ?

Janosky:
No mind that Janosky half baked lying Pharisee.
The man dey argue blindly always.

haywizzy007:
Brother ChristianNorth, what sets Jehovah apart as the Supreme being of the universe?
Your response to this question will most likely reveal the condition of your heart

Please don't tell me it is mystery as most trinitarians are fond of saying that..

ChristianNorth:
Because of the following portions in the Bible.

1. Jesus is the first born of all creations and through him everything that was made was made. This shows that Jesus was created.

2. And He gave him (Jesus) all the powers and authority in Heaven. This shows Jesus derives his powers from a superior power.

3. Father if you will, let this cup pass over me. This shows that there is a will that supercedes that of Jesus.

4. My father judges no one, but has committed all judgments to the son. Of course, a father is a greater than the son.

5. I do the will of Him that sent me. Jesus takes order and he is responsible to that supreme one.

There are over a 100 verse that shows the supremacy of Jehovah.

haywizzy007:
Thumbs-up bro, you spoke the truth!
But there is an honest truth i will tell you, you don't believe in the Trinity all because the basic tenets of the trinity doctrine opposes everything you wrote here, trinitarians believe Jesus is their creator, they believe Jesus is the one to be worshipped, some hardliners even believe it was the Almighty God that walked the earth.

ChristianNorth:
I don't think any Christian denomination is claiming that Jesus is Supreme God.

The crux of my argument is Trinity. If Jesus is a God, then Trinity is. Since he is, then the doctrine of trinity is valid.

ChristianNorth:
The tenet of trinity is very simple for all to understand: Union of the father, son and holy spirit as one God. In a nutshell, it means the father is a God, the son a God and the Holy Spirit a God also.

I have never seen any trinitarian that believe what you just narrated.

ChristianNorth:
The tenet of trinity is very simple for all to understand: Union of the father, son and holy spirit as one God. In a nutshell, it means the father is a God, the son a God and the Holy Spirit a God also.

I have never seen any trinitarian that believe what you just narrated.

Emusan:
Ignorance will not kill you one day, I pray!



This is my statement: Jesus Christ was called saviour because HE SAVED MANKIND from their sin...

Saviour is to save...so both Christ and Othniel were called SAVIOUR because they simply performed the act of saving...



Is Othniel still Israel saviour today?



Olodo...who is talking about superiority



You lack comprehension...
Jehovah and Othniel were called saviour because they both saved...what they saved from might be different...





That's why I'll keep saying you lack comprehension...

They both performed the role of apostleship...which means to SEND....



Othniel is a saviour to those he saved
Jehovah is a saviour of the world
Today people still use the word saviour for those who rescued someone from danger...

The critical point here is the meaning of SAVIOUR which is to SAVE

The funny part of it is that, you didn't even consider the tone of the writer.



So you agree that Jehovah gave Jesus the title MIGHTY God which is strictly for Jehovah Alone?

In essence, Jesus is a Mighty God just as

Jehovah is a Mighty God, right?

CANTICLES:
@bold, at that point in Isreal history, how many saviours do they have ?

ChristianNorth:
The tenet of trinity is very simple for all to understand: Union of the father, son and holy spirit as one God. In a nutshell, it means the father is a God, the son a God and the Holy Spirit a God also.

I have never seen any trinitarian that believe what you just narrated.

Emusan:
If you didn't see answer to your question in my post then check your eyes and brain very well

ChristianNorth:
You guys are just hopeless liars. You interpret words in the context it was made.

Saviour can mean anything but the saviour associated with Jesus was translated from the Hebrew word "messiah" or the Greek word "Khristos" (christ)

"His name shall be called Mighty God" and you still want to explain this away as mere title but your brainwashed brain didn't allow you to see how this still validates the deity of Jesus.

Obi of Onitsha is a title. He is given that title because he is the obi (King) of Onitsha. Only a god can claim the title "Mighty God"

Don't forget he is also called "eternal father". I wonder how you intend to explain this away.

Barristter07:

Are you so uninformed and ignorant not to know EL GIBBOA was applied to humans ?

Janosky:
LIEs from Christian Not.

Trinitarians believed that their doctrine is difficult to understand

CANTICLES:
U are not making sense, why limit at those three, when others are also called gods including humans?