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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:24pm On Apr 08, 2019
Earthquake2:
Eze didn't pass through our ranks so that's a disadvantage

Given the fact that he's foreign born doesn't help his case
Is that the criteria for playing for the national team?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:43pm On Apr 08, 2019
Earthquake2:
You know carelessness na this happened to Samuel Kalu
Lols ok
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:56pm On Apr 08, 2019
Earthquake2:
Eze didn't pass through our ranks so that's a disadvantage

Given the fact that he's foreign born doesn't help his case
Is that the criterion for playing for the national team?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 1:13pm On Apr 08, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
So what should we listen to to get information about some of the things going on in camp? Rumour mills?
You should take their press statements with a pinch of salt that's all. wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 1:52pm On Apr 08, 2019
There is some truth to what he said. But I have mixed feelings.

Bolowolowo:
House, is he right? Are we over dependent on foreign tacticians grin



Sodje raises alarm over influx of foreign coaches to Super Eagles


By Alex Monye | 08 April 2019 | 4:08 am



Former Super Eagles defender, Sam Sodje has raised the alarm over the influx of foreign coaches to the national team’s coaching crew.
He is worried that the large number of foreign coaches working with Coach Gernot Rohr is ridiculing Nigerian coaches, adding that it is denying trained and qualified local coaches the opportunity to get the necessary experience.

Sodje said he is worried that the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) keeps spending money on foreign coaches without getting the desired results, stressing that the Eagles posted the worst result in its World Cup history in 2018. Nigeria, he said, was kicked out of the competition in the group stage despite the presence of foreign coaches on its bench.

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On the chances of the Super Eagles in this year’s Nations Cup, the former Leeds United of England player said Nigeria would only excel in Egypt if the coach worked hard to build a formidable team.

He noted that Nigeria has what it takes to be champions of Africa owing to the young and committed players in the squad, adding, however, that the Eagles coaches must fashion out a distinct playing pattern for the team.

“I am worried that in the Super Eagles team we have about five foreign coaches working with Gernot Rohr. This is slavery.

“When Westerhof was the Eagles coach, he only had one assistant. I see no reason the Nigerian team will have more foreign assistants when there are a lot of top coaches in Nigeria who don’t have jobs.

“The NFF claims they don’t have money, but they can afford to pay these expatriate coaches with foreign currencies, while abandoning the domestic ones.

“The foreign coaches’ impact has not been felt since Rohr took charge of the team. How can Nigerian coaches grow? The foreign coaches working in Nigeria collect the money and leave the country with nothing to show for it,” he said.

The Guardian recalls that last week, the NFF appointed more foreign assistants in the Super Falcons set up ahead of the France 2019 Women World Cup.

Sodje says the influx of the foreign coaches has not given Nigeria a playing pattern.

“In modern coaching, a team must be known for a pattern. What I think the Eagles need now is to have a solid defence. A good defensive coach will solve this problem. If you have a good defence and an organised attack, your team will excel.

“Nigerian defenders played well against Egypt in the international friendly, but you will also understand that the early goal affected Egypt players’ psyche. They almost dominated the game. Looking at the current Eagles defenders, for me Leon Balogun is a good defender, but you will observe that he cannot play two straight games because he is injury prone.

“The Nations Cup is tough due to the display of power by African teams. So can he withstand the pressure.” These are qualities the coach should be looking out for in Balogun and other Super Eagles players,”
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 2:03pm On Apr 08, 2019
grin
Icon4s:
Well, you just summed it up. People will argue Iheanacho has regressed. But I will say he stagnated.

He was never at the level people placed him.

Some believe he has stopped working hard. But I don't think so. In Football development there is what is called a plateau. A player develops and gets to a level and remains at that level for long. That is the plateau. And that is where the talent of such Player can raise him to. And after that plateau his performance starts declining. Iheanacho may just have hit his plateau early. That is just it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake2: 2:12pm On Apr 08, 2019
forgiveness:
Is that the criteria for playing for the national team?
NFF politics makes it difficult for him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:45pm On Apr 08, 2019
iSlayer2:
You should take their press statements with a pinch of salt that's all. wink
Where did I take it with a cube of sugar?

The fact remains, the statement directly from the manager is the best information you have available.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:48pm On Apr 08, 2019
Earthquake2:
Rodgers bought these people at Liverpool

Adam Bodgan
Allan Rodriguez
Kevin Stewart
Lazar Markovic
Javier Manquillo
Aly Cissoko
Fabio Borini
Ousama Assaidi
Nuri Sahin
Samid Yesil

It seems you are likely to become a flop under god Rodgers than turn into a superstar and don't tell me about recent form every club with a new manager experiences 'new manager bounce'
Nuri Sahin for instance refused to abide by Brendan Rodgers rules for a start. He had his own idea of how he wants to play.

Secondly, I have said playing is not the priority but soaking the knowledge and learning from him. Listing players that did not break into the Liverpool starting eleven does not mean they did not improve or gain from the time under him.

I can list a host of players under Mourinho, Klopp and Pellegrini who did not break into the starting eleven. Does that mean they gained nothing in camp?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake2: 3:22pm On Apr 08, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Nuri Sahin for instance refused to abide by Brendan Rodgers rules for a start. He had his own idea of how he wants to play.

Secondly, I have said playing is not the priority but soaking the knowledge and learning from him. Listing players that did not break into the Liverpool starting eleven does not mean they did not improve or gain from the time under him.

I can list a host of players under Mourinho, Klopp and Pellegrini who did not break into the starting eleven. Does that mean they gained nothing in camp?
If they gained something by SOAKING up information from him why come half of the players he bought amounted to nothing?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 3:35pm On Apr 08, 2019
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:43pm On Apr 08, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Where did I take it with a cube of sugar?


The fact remains, the statement directly from the manager is the best information you have available.

Finito.
grin

Or a bag of salt
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 4:24pm On Apr 08, 2019
Leicester City's Ndidi Named The Top Tackler In Europe's Top Five Leagues
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 4:38pm On Apr 08, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Leicester City's Ndidi Named The Top Tackler In Europe's Top Five Leagues
Our only world class player after obi mikel, i will keep on saying this

If we think we have world class player in any other of our player then we must be dreaming.

I ccant wait to see this boy in a big club
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:54pm On Apr 08, 2019
kellycute:
but still far better than your solanke!
It seems you have jumped on the bandwagon without knowing where that wagon has come from or is going.

I don't know where you got the idea that I am a praise singer for Solanke.

I do not rate Solanke as an outstanding player essentially because he has done NOTHING yet. Great potential yes but that's all.

However as an out and out striker, a true No. 9 and point man. I rate him far and above KC. Just as would rate Obagoal, Brown Ideye, Tega Abrahams, etc over him, even now possibly Osimhen.

Simply because KC is neither a striker or point man what he is we are yet to define. AM, SS, LW, etc nobody seems yo know he hasnt created any definitive unique selling point for himself.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:55pm On Apr 08, 2019
andrew444:
I asked a question o

Komekn no allow us hear word here with that guy dis and that

Komekn has always promoted crappy English players .
Please name the one by one or remain forever silent.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:01pm On Apr 08, 2019
andrew444:
But is he not crappy ?

Upon all komekn hype ,he can't even get an Epl team

Have you see how he talked about iorfa ?

If iorfa is one naija nothing player you go don see how e go talk down of the player because say e no even dey make wolves bench

Isaac success is a waste man according to komekn

But solanke is not a waste man
It's disappointing when l went to great lengths to explain the situation at Wolves which became the subject of an FA investigation.

With the super agent Mendes control of the club by proxy and the importation of all things Portuguese. Wolves have more Portuguese players than Porto and Benfica.

But you have chosen to be blind to that.

Solanke is essentially a youth player yet to show his true QUALITY yes he ripped the U20 World cup but it's not enough IMO. However, even with his very limited playing time at Liverpool. Bournemouth payed £20 million for him.

In addition he shouldn't be part of the discussion, this is player I have met. He has Zero affinity for anything Nigerian.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:04pm On Apr 08, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
So a National team coach will not lie but a club coach will lie. I do not get your point.

Simple, Rodgers made a very honest assessment from his words. There is nothing like fool's paradise.
It's very simple two different priorities.

One is a team Manager and taking down your player can cost you millions in lost value. Even if you think he is rubbish you will NEVER say that in public. A national team coach will not have the same considerations.

I talk from experience what coaches will say in PRIVATE is very different from what thru will say in PUBLIC.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:10pm On Apr 08, 2019
andrew444:
Gerard deulofeu always doing well in Epl

Is it not the same lazy deulofeu ?

After someone will not let us hear word with Epl physicality this and that

Komekn will not see such players ,na people like slimani e dey see

The so called slimani was not even starting all games at Leicester ,he managed 8 goals in 35 games and that's not that bad as we see it
.
You call that not bad and they got rid of him by packaging him to Turkey retirement league.

Well compare that to KC record in Leicester it's actually considerably worse than Slimani record. You have confused yourself with your own argument.

Go and take cold pure water to Kool your brain down, "u no deh reason well again "
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:40pm On Apr 08, 2019
komekn:
You call that not bad and they got rid of him by packaging him to Turkey retirement league.

Well compare that to KC record in Leicester it's actually considerably worse than Slimani record. You have confused yourself with your own argument.

Go and take cold pure water to Kool your brain down, "u no deh reason well again "
The turkey wey him dey e no even dey score ,he stats in Epl is better than turkey

Google is there for you

The confused one know him self already
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake2:
komekn:
It seems you have jumped on the bandwagon without knowing where that wagon has come from or is going.

I don't know where you got the idea that I am a praise singer for Solanke.

I do not rate Solanke as an outstanding player essentially because he has done NOTHING yet. Great potential yes but that's all.

However as an out and out striker, a true No. 9 and point man. I rate him far and above KC . Just as would rate Obagoal, Brown Ideye, Tega Abrahams, etc over him, even now possibly Osimhen.

Simply because KC is neither a striker or point man what he is we are yet to define. AM, SS, LW, etc nobody seems yo know he hasnt created any definitive unique selling point for himself.
You would rate somebody who has 1 EPL goal above somebody who has 30 EPL goals

What would I not hear?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:42pm On Apr 08, 2019
komekn:
It's disappointing when l went to great lengths to explain the situation at Wolves which became the subject of an FA investigation.

With the super agent Mendes control of the club by proxy and the importation of all things Portuguese. Wolves have more Portuguese players than Porto and Benfica.

But you have chosen to be blind to that.

Solanke is essentially a youth player yet to show his true QUALITY yes he ripped the U20 World cup but it's not enough IMO. However, even with his very limited playing time at Liverpool. Bournemouth payed £20 million for him.

In addition he shouldn't be part of the discussion, this is player I have met. He has Zero affinity for anything Nigerian.
Solanke one Epl goal in 18 months

Waste man

Bournemouth buy am nah because e young ,and you think kc will not get a club ?

Should I bring the hater tag back on ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:06pm On Apr 08, 2019
komekn:
It's very simple two different priorities.

One is a team Manager and taking down your player can cost you millions in lost value. Even if you think he is rubbish you will NEVER say that in public. A national team coach will not have the same considerations.

I talk from experience what coaches will say in PRIVATE is very different from what thru will say in PUBLIC.
Story story.

Coaches talk about their players always. From Mourinho, to Guardiola, to Pellegrini, to Pochettino etc. That is what they do always. It is hard for any interview to take place without the coach talking about a player.

Unless you want us to believe every press briefing is fool's paradise, if not, it does not add up.

I repeat, the best place to get information about players off matches is from coaches.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:09pm On Apr 08, 2019
komekn:
It's very simple two different priorities.

One is a team Manager and taking down your player can cost you millions in lost value. Even if you think he is rubbish you will NEVER say that in public. A national team coach will not have the same considerations.
I talk from experience what coaches will say in PRIVATE is very different from what thru will say in PUBLIC.
Bournemouth manager Eddie Howe is confident striker Dominic Solanke will continue to improve after he made his debut on Saturday.
https://punchng.com/solankes-potential-thrills-bournemouth-boss/amp/

Is this one of the fool's paradise?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:10pm On Apr 08, 2019
Icon4s:
grin

Or a bag of salt
Or a basket of Kakashi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:11pm On Apr 08, 2019
Earthquake2:
If they gained something by SOAKING up information from him why come half of the players he bought amounted to nothing?
I can tell you a list of players who were signed by Benítez, Del Bosque, Guardiola, Mourinho etc that amounted to nothing. Does it mean the players gained nothing from them?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 6:22pm On Apr 08, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
I can tell you a list of players who were signed by Benítez, Del Bosque, Guardiola, Mourinho etc that amounted to nothing. Does it mean the players gained nothing from them?
Rodgers is a great coach but poor man manager. Tactically, dude can hold his own against most coaches. It's his man management skills that the issue.. he tends to over do it sometimes.
But he has a good eye for talent sha
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:39pm On Apr 08, 2019
edi287:
Rodgers is a great coach but poor man manager. Tactically, dude can hold his own against most coaches. It's his man management skills that the issue.. he tends to over do it sometimes.
But he has a good eye for talent sha
Actually, my problem with Rodgers is that I feel he gets sentimental to some players, especially the British ones and I feel that is where his ondoing comes from. If he was a coach who spends more time studying other leagues, especially the South American leagues, with his eye for talent and tactical mind, he would be able to build a formidable side.

However, I am more drawn to his tactical acumen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:00pm On Apr 08, 2019
Earthquake2:
You would rate somebody who has 1 EPL goal above somebody who has 30 EPL goals

What would I not hear?
Your question wrongly presented and as such you can not get any value from it.

Goals is not the issue but role, it's possible that Balogun could have scored mire goals than Virgil Van Dyke. Would you then say that Balogun is a better defenderhuh

Giroud may not score too many goals but he adds to his goals presence and hold up play. Firmino nay nit be the best striker but apart from goals he backtracks and is creative with the addition of link up play.

I am sorry your question is unbecoming of some one who should really know a lot more.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:03pm On Apr 08, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Story story.

Coaches talk about their players always. From Mourinho, to Guardiola, to Pellegrini, to Pochettino etc. That is what they do always. It is hard for any interview to take place without the coach talking about a player.

Unless you want us to believe every press briefing is fool's paradise, if not, it does not add up.

I repeat, the best place to get information about players off matches is from coaches.

Finito.
Players and coaches always give the press a version of events that is not always the truth or a view for public consumption.

Do you think any player will express his disagreement with his manager in public or a Manager vice versa.

You really should know better this is really elementary reasoning and not befitting of someone of your standing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:14pm On Apr 08, 2019
andrew444:
Solanke one Epl goal in 18 months

Waste man

Bournemouth buy am nah because e young ,and you think kc will not get a club ?

Should I bring the hater tag back on ?
I am indulging you with your approach to what in your opinion you call reasonable.

You really have not read the numerous write ups on this topic.

So I give up.

Can someone else explain to my friend andrew444, in a language that he can understand.


because I don tire.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:18pm On Apr 08, 2019
edi287:
Rodgers is a great coach but poor man manager. Tactically, dude can hold his own against most coaches. It's his man management skills that the issue.. he tends to over do it sometimes.
But he has a good eye for talent sha
Thank you very much, l don't want too expand on this too much, l really don't want to give examples.

But your SPOT ON.
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