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BascoVanVeli:
The NPFL U15 tournament has kicked off. Here are the result from yesterday.


#NPFLLaLigaU15Promises DAY 1 RESULTS ABS 1-3 Kano Pillars Lobi Stars 1-0 Gombe Utd Heartland 4-1 Enyimba Sunshine Stars 2-3 Delta Force Bendel Insurance 4-0 Abia Warriors Remo Stars 1-2 Akwa Utd

Icon4s:
Indegenous coaches wetin? Shay na that rubbish wey Oliseh do? What of Siasia and his rubbish choice of players? Nigerian coaches have proven that they are not good team managers. Rohr has so far done excellently well in that area. He is even now like the coordinator of our national teams as he has established a kind of synergy amongst all the age grade teams and the SE. Gone are the day when the U20, U23 and SE coaches would be fighting over a player. I remember John Obuh fighting with Siasia over Ahmed Musa. Also Siasia fighting with a then SE coach over Obinna Nsofor and some other of "his boys".

Chairman, abeg Rohr has brought sanity and discipline to the national team which is the first thing before you start talking about tactics.

BascoVanVeli:
The NPFL U15 tournament has kicked off. Here are the result from yesterday.


#NPFLLaLigaU15Promises DAY 1 RESULTS ABS 1-3 Kano Pillars Lobi Stars 1-0 Gombe Utd Heartland 4-1 Enyimba Sunshine Stars 2-3 Delta Force Bendel Insurance 4-0 Abia Warriors Remo Stars 1-2 Akwa Utd

BascoVanVeli:
These ones are babies. Plateau united U15

Oasis007:
This will go in a long way to help re-shape our football in Nigeria. The Boys are really young and definitely look under 15. The best among them are probably gonna be selected for the next U17 National Team.

This will help Manu Garba to scout for the best U17 Players easily now. All he needs doing is following the League bumper to bumper. Kudos to whoever is responsible for the Competition.

BascoVanVeli:
The problem is that the best player play in academies. The NFF should do more to include the best ones so as to ensure we see the best talent.

BascoVanVeli:
These ones are babies. Plateau united U15

TheGoodJoe:
Below is a coach blatantly lying about the quality of another player.

“Whenever you have players doing well, there’s always that type of speculation.
“I’ll be as determined as everybody at Wolves – we want to improve the team. Selling Dominic, we don’t think will help us.”

He added: “It’s difficult in football to predict exactly what’s happening and once you get into the realms of very, very big bids, it would be wrong to say it can’t happen, because we’ve seen it happen many times.

“It wouldn’t be my choice and for everyone at Wolves it is about wanting to build a team around Dominic.

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4110/african-all-stars/2016/04/27/22861312/nigeria-target-dominic-iorfa-not-for-sale-wolves

The truth is that the manager did not rate Iorfa at all and lied about his quality.

I hope I am reasoning in secondary level.

No need telling us about what a coach told you about a player because they lie and surround is with fool's paradise.

tbaba1234:
Unfortunately, this is an academy called Mees Palace footbal.academy representing Plateau United. Most Nigerian clubs do not have these structures.

komekn:
You are in this case 100% correct Kenny Jackett was the Manager at Wolves at this time. And Dominic was the poster kid at the club with huge expectations.

Dominic Iorfa waa so highly rated at Wolves he had been winning MOTM awards as a teenager had already played about a 100 games. To cap it all was invited to train with the England senior team in a sense unprecedented for a Championship player.

Fast forward to 2017/18 season Super agent Mendes takes control of the club by proxy. Brings in Nuno as Manager and more Portuguese players than Benfica and Porto.

Dominic was immediately fazed out to make way for the imported Portuguese based players. He was not even allowed to train with the first team under Nuno. But the decision was made that he was not good enough but not on football considerations. More football money politics.

So yes your very correct, Nuno Espírito lied and denied the quality of Dominic to compete and or have any opportunity. The assumption being less he eclipsed the Mendes players.

komekn:
It's irrelevant how many goals he KC has scored it's not the context to determine attribute football role and or position.

What l am saying which you have refused to acknowledge is quite simply that KC is not a striker, a true No.9, essentially.

But you wish to muddy the waters by making a comparison with Solanke. Who has no interest in playing for Nigeria.

The comparison made with KC to Solanke is not about performances but role. Just as I would rate Tega Onomah, Brown Ideye, Onuachu, etc as true number 9 forward players even Osimhen.

KC has scored a total of 16 goals from 94 games in the EPL. But that's not that important, in football the context is ALWAYS present continous and maybe immediate past. In 48 games and two seasons in Leicester City he has scored 4 goals that's the relevant current context. Much more disturbing is that he has scored. ONE GOAL all season that's a big problem.

Salah has scored near 20 goal for Liverpool this season does that make him therefore a striker ❓

There are many defenders who have scored more goals than KC this season should they then become strikers.

So stop being mischievously contentious.

Keep to the context of the discourse.

Which l repeat is simply that KC is not w striker he just doesn't have the attributes to be a true number 9.

So you think any forward thinking club will buy a player who has not defined a role for himself in football and has scored ONE GOAL since the beginning of the season.

Oasis007:
Sodje is right. Nothing is spectacular in Rohr's tactics and style of play. It's more than huffing Ball up and down, hoping to pounce on a loose Ball based on Luck, rather working for it.

If indigenous Coaches had the same backing as Rohr, they would have delivered, but this is Nigeria - where don't value our own.

Oliseh managed a Club, to some extent, successfully. Late Keshi managed two national Teams apart from Nigeria, successfully with records breaking.

Siasia had top-class instincts with the U23 and U20 national Teams respectively. Amuneke is doing outstandingly well with Tanzania national Teams. Manu is unraveling Talents hidden in the country - yet we keep saying indigenous Coaches ain't good enough for the National Teams.

Back the indigenous Coaches, and the rest shall be history - coz they would deliver, entertaining, good football with trophies and medals.

komekn:
You are in this case 100% correct Kenny Jackett was the Manager at Wolves at this time. And Dominic was the poster kid at the club with huge expectations.

Dominic Iorfa waa so highly rated at Wolves he had been winning MOTM awards as a teenager had already played about a 100 games. To cap it all was invited to train with the England senior team in a sense unprecedented for a Championship player.

Fast forward to 2017/18 season Super agent Mendes takes control of the club by proxy. Brings in Nuno as Manager and more Portuguese players than Benfica and Porto.

Dominic was immediately fazed out to make way for the imported Portuguese based players. He was not even allowed to train with the first team under Nuno. But the decision was made that he was not good enough but not on football considerations. More football money politics.

So yes your very correct, Nuno Espírito lied and denied the quality of Dominic to compete and or have any opportunity. The assumption being less he eclipsed the Mendes players.

komekn:
Good morning Oga TheGoodJoe, how u deh ❓

It seems the entire core substance of my discourse is lost on you.

The core issue is ROLE and player attributes or if you like unique selling point or even BRAND.

Because Benteke and Solanke as well as Championship strikers Che Adams, Teemu Pukki, Grabben, all have the particular attribute that fits the particular and unique requirements of the Championship.

So the core question is can KC thrive in the physical intense, ( jam body) Championship albeit mixed with some technicality depending on the team. ❓ Be honest, l know he is your son, but sometimes you have to give truthful advice not deceptive hype.

All the players I have mentioned do have the particular attributes required for the championship and that's why they will get clubs in the Championship easily and some will even move up to the EPL.

That's why the players i have mentioned will always get interest from the Championship and KC will not.

Solanke has the attributes of a true number 9, point man, although not proven at club level. Nonetheless, don't forget he got the golden boot at the U20 football world cup. He has great POTENTIAL that's yet to be realised. He didnt get any opportunities at Chelsea the same way KC got at Manchester city. Another reason he has been given the benefit of the doubt. He got some opportunity at Liverpool but very limited game time, l think he should have done a lot better.

His true test is NOW and what he does this season but more so next season. Otherwise he will become a "Wasteman " But whaaaaten concern us with Solanke Dude has no affinity to Nigeria at all.

Finally, with KC, there is the small matter of 4 goals in two seasons in the EPL. And currently this season he has scored just ONE GOAL. That record will not inspire confidence even at league one level.

So once again good morning my friend.

komekn:
Good morning Oga TheGoodJoe, how u deh ❓

It seems the entire core substance of my discourse is lost on you.

The core issue is ROLE and player attributes or if you like unique selling point or even BRAND.

Because Benteke and Solanke as well as Championship strikers Che Adams, Teemu Pukki, Grabben, all have the particular attribute that fits the particular and unique requirements of the Championship.

So the core question is can KC thrive in the physical intense, ( jam body) Championship albeit mixed with some technicality depending on the team. ❓ Be honest, l know he is your son, but sometimes you have to give truthful advice not deceptive hype.

All the players I have mentioned do have the particular attributes required for the championship and that's why they will get clubs in the Championship easily and some will even move up to the EPL.

That's why the players i have mentioned will always get interest from the Championship and KC will not.

Solanke has the attributes of a true number 9, point man, although not proven at club level. Nonetheless, don't forget he got the golden boot at the U20 football world cup. He has great POTENTIAL that's yet to be realised. He didnt get any opportunities at Chelsea the same way KC got at Manchester city. Another reason he has been given the benefit of the doubt. He got some opportunity at Liverpool but very limited game time, l think he should have done a lot better.

His true test is NOW and what he does this season but more so next season. Otherwise he will become a "Wasteman " But whaaaaten concern us with Solanke Dude has no affinity to Nigeria at all.

Finally, with KC, there is the small matter of 4 goals in two seasons in the EPL. And currently this season he has scored just ONE GOAL. That record will not inspire confidence even at league one level.

So once again good morning my friend.

Truidstar:
Are we better off today in football team than we were 4 years ago?

Oasis007:
We are not.... qualifying for AFCON ain't a Feat to celebrate, coz we ain't Tanzania.

Oasis007:
We are not.... qualifying for AFCON ain't a Feat to celebrate, coz we ain't Tanzania.

damagnificentusb:
its surprising hw pple forget so soon d pathetic state our football was in prior 2 rorh's appointment. if anyone actually tinks dat rorh's appointment hasnt helped nigeria football, then i short of words

andrew444:
Our only world class player after obi mikel, i will keep on saying this

If we think we have world class player in any other of our player then we must be dreaming.

I ccant wait to see this boy in a big club

Oasis007:
I expect majority of the Academy Players to be signed up by the Clubs participating in the Competition.

tbaba1234:
Unfortunately, this is an academy called Mees Palace footbal.academy representing Plateau United. Most Nigerian clubs do not have these structures.

BascoVanVeli:
Well that's one way to do it. They surely have a working agreement. Surely the club is helping them with one or two things.

darkelf:
I wonder why many take what European coaches say on interviews seriously...they say things for the camera. They don't want to hurt any players feelings.

tbaba1234:
The club will pay them to represent them but it is not healthy for our clubsides. They need these structures.

darkelf:
We don't have world class players for now

Mikel is not and was never world class.

Mikel was just lucky to play for and to be surrounded by excellent players at chelsea.

If the only thing Ndidi has to offer is tackles, then he isn't world class. As a central Midfielder, he needs to learn how to pass. Then he could be considered world class

Oasis007:
We are not.... qualifying for AFCON ain't a Feat to celebrate, coz we ain't Tanzania.

BascoVanVeli:
That should also mean that the club will get first dibs on players when they are older.

It is not ideal but it is not a bad or detrimental option. We can't wait for perfection we just have to find ways to get things done. Would you rather plateau wait until they have funds to begin and maintain an academy? If we start hearing the children are hungry and have no equipment we would complain.