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alBHAGDADI:
Stop blurring the lines. There's nothing like ladies trousers. Are you saying if the make men's skirt, you will wear them? Even health wise, trousers causes vagina irritation for ladies. There's a topic on that on front page.

asuustrike1:
You are blessed. However I need your opinion on this matter. Someone on this platform said some Christian sisters put on trousers in Northern China because of cold. I argued with him but he made reference to some of my our Christian brethren that do not wear trousers over here but started wearing it when they got to China . What do you think?

alBHAGDADI:
The difference you see is caused by the hips of ladies. The jeans they wear is not different from the skinny jeans boys wear. Fashion designers are the ones fooling you all to believe trousers have female version. Of male skirts come out today, will you rock it? Your answer will be no, and that's how it was when female trousers came on board until they were not normalized.

alBHAGDADI:
These heretic pastors keep increasing by the day. Imagine the junk this man just spewed from the pulpit, saying we are not under religion but in a relationship with God. Where is it written in the entire Bible that we are in a relationship with God? Is there even the word relationship in the Bible? Yet Christians are bring fooled by the cute phrase "we are in a relationship with God, not religion".

The sad part is that pastor Abel Damina said we are no longer under religion. Do these fake pastors even think people no longer know the Bible? How can you say we are no longer under religion but a relationship, when the word relationship is not found in the Bible, but we can find the word religion.

James 1:27 (KJV)
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

As seen above, the Bible defines religion as visiting the fatherless and widows in their time of affliction and to also keep oneself unspotted from the world. Yet this fake pastor that Daddy Freeze the agrees with is saying we are no longer under religion. He simply means we are no longer obligated to visit the fatherless and widows, and we are not to obey the word which says we should keep ourselves unspotted from the world. He simply means we can now be like the world. No wonder he advocates that females can wear trousers, a thing God hates.

For all those who might think trouser is a modern invention, read the book of Daniel which described what Shedrach, Meschach and Abrdnego wore as males. It mentions hosen which means trousers .

Daniel 3:20-21 (KJV)
20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

God has promised to destroy those who wear strange apparel because he hates it.

Zephaniah 1:8 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass in the day of the
L ORD 's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

Deuteronomy 22:5 (KJV)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the L ORD thy God.

kobobay:
You are the one who is wrong. Hosen is also refer to as leggings. Which is equivalent to trousers for men.

budaatum:
You will forgive, but you do mean:

Her Most Royal Majesty, 'Queen Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth and Defender of the Faith'.

Look carefully now!

Olumyco:
First of all, all the historical documents of trouser are not coherent. No one can actually say this is how it originated. There are many others infact there are documents who link that of women wearing trouser in US to women liberation issue. There are historical documents where it is stated that trousers were worn by men until women started wearing it.
So in all the only thing I can deduce from all these is that trouser was designed with the intention of producing a clothe that suits hardwork, smart work and warfare. And when you look at that, you will agree with me that Men are the ones doing these. Hardly would you see ladies doing hard/smart work then. Not even going to battle except for very few. So the intention that brought trouser into limelight were actually things that Men are known for. 

Now considering reasons why we wear clothes. We wear clothes just for three reasons. 
1. To cover unclothedness
2. To protect our body
3. To look good (fashion)

Now lets look at these three things and relate it to a female wearing trousers.

Case1
A lady who puts on trouser which covers her unclothedness, protects her body and also looks good on her is actually a professional lady who is into engineering works or a lady soldier or a lady sweeping on the highway or any profession that demands hardwork or smartwork or warfare/force. One thing with this type of dressing is that the woman is not the one who will even get the trouser, the profession/company/organisation itself would make it available. The trouser is usually made such that it covers, protects and looks good. Its always free and not tight and readily match the profession intended. So its not seductive.

Case2
A lady who puts on trouser which does not cover her unclothedness but may protects her to an extent and looks good is actually our today's ladies who wear all those trousers that are tight and revealing. It is actually not for any purpose but to look fashionable because today's fashion is all about unclothedness. How much body parts and curves and co you can reveal determines how fashionable you are. 

So we all can see that there is nothing like modesty in wearing a trouser if you are not into any profession....

Let's be practical, have you guys seen a trouser clothing for women that is not tight? No!



All fashionable women trousers are tight. Let's not be hypocritical about this. It is wrong for a lady to wear trouser because it reveals an area that is suggestive. The way ladies are created is different from men. That is why skirt matches a lady's design more than trouser.

In NYSC ladies are given trousers because of the design of NYSC programme which includes force/military training and these trousers are designed to match the training...so it is usually free but our ladies today go to slim fit the trouser to be very tight because they want to reveal their curves to you and seduce you. So what are we saying?
Can a lady wear a trouser that is not tight? People will think such a lady has HIV or a kind of disease. 

In Christianity motive/intent/purpose is very important. So tell me the motive or intent or purpose behind why a Christian lady will put on trouser?
Having considered all that is above, our answer to this question solves the issue.

Modesty is being able to dress to cover your unclothedness and at thesame time look good.

1 Timothy 2:9 (KJV) In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

alBHAGDADI:
These heretic pastors keep increasing by the day. Imagine the junk this man just spewed from the pulpit, saying we are not under religion but in a relationship with God. Where is it written in the entire Bible that we are in a relationship with God? Is there even the word relationship in the Bible? Yet Christians are bring fooled by the cute phrase "we are in a relationship with God, not religion".

The sad part is that pastor Abel Damina said we are no longer under religion. Do these fake pastors even think people no longer know the Bible? How can you say we are no longer under religion but a relationship, when the word relationship is not found in the Bible, but we can find the word religion.

James 1:27 (KJV)
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

As seen above, the Bible defines religion as visiting the fatherless and widows in their time of affliction and to also keep oneself unspotted from the world. Yet this fake pastor that Daddy Freeze the agrees with is saying we are no longer under religion. He simply means we are no longer obligated to visit the fatherless and widows, and we are not to obey the word which says we should keep ourselves unspotted from the world. He simply means we can now be like the world. No wonder he advocates that females can wear trousers, a thing God hates.

For all those who might think trouser is a modern invention, read the book of Daniel which described what Shedrach, Meschach and Abrdnego wore as males. It mentions hosen which means trousers .

Daniel 3:20-21 (KJV)
20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

God has promised to destroy those who wear strange apparel because he hates it.

Zephaniah 1:8 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass in the day of the
L ORD 's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

Deuteronomy 22:5 (KJV)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the L ORD thy God.

Reference:
Ans then when I ask you what are the Commamdments you are expected to obey, you either refer me back to the Laws given to Moses and the tribes of Israel or some laws concocted by some pastor or church. Very few are seriously interested in what God is saying.... commanding.

Without knowing through the Spirit of God what God is actually saying at that moment is like a blind man shopping. It cannot be a complete experience and it will be error strewn and hazardous.

It is only the Spirit of God that can traverse times and seasons and understand the complexities of cultures and traditions throughout the world and will deliver to your soul an answer, an instruction or a commandment that will both satisfy God, His Word (Jesus Christ) and edify you according to His purpose.

All these mundane arguments about trousers and skirts shows how shallow, near sighted and narrow minded we all are. You can never follow the law alone and survive. Ask His Spirit for answers. He is your Counselor.

woleabayo:
thou shall not judge so as not to be judge bro.....

Reference:
Ans then when I ask you what are the Commamdments you are expected to obey, you either refer me back to the Laws given to Moses and the tribes of Israel or some laws concocted by some pastor or church. Very few are seriously interested in what God is saying.... commanding.

alBHAGDADI:
These heretic pastors keep increasing by the day. Imagine the junk this man just spewed from the pulpit, saying we are not under religion but in a relationship with God. Where is it written in the entire Bible that we are in a relationship with God? Is there even the word relationship in the Bible? Yet Christians are bring fooled by the cute phrase "we are in a relationship with God, not religion".

The sad part is that pastor Abel Damina said we are no longer under religion. Do these fake pastors even think people no longer know the Bible? How can you say we are no longer under religion but a relationship, when the word relationship is not found in the Bible, but we can find the word religion.

James 1:27 (KJV)
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

As seen above, the Bible defines religion as visiting the fatherless and widows in their time of affliction and to also keep oneself unspotted from the world. Yet this fake pastor that Daddy Freeze the agrees with is saying we are no longer under religion. He simply means we are no longer obligated to visit the fatherless and widows, and we are not to obey the word which says we should keep ourselves unspotted from the world. He simply means we can now be like the world. No wonder he advocates that females can wear trousers, a thing God hates.

For all those who might think trouser is a modern invention, read the book of Daniel which described what Shedrach, Meschach and Abrdnego wore as males. It mentions hosen which means trousers .

Daniel 3:20-21 (KJV)
20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

God has promised to destroy those who wear strange apparel because he hates it.

Zephaniah 1:8 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass in the day of the
L ORD 's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

Deuteronomy 22:5 (KJV)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the L ORD thy God.

alBHAGDADI:
Is wearing trousers as a female not affecting your relationship with humans? Don't trousers bring it your curves in such a way that makes men sin?

alBHAGDADI:
These heretic pastors keep increasing by the day. Imagine the junk this man just spewed from the pulpit, saying we are not under religion but in a relationship with God. Where is it written in the entire Bible that we are in a relationship with God? Is there even the word relationship in the Bible? Yet Christians are bring fooled by the cute phrase "we are in a relationship with God, not religion".

The sad part is that pastor Abel Damina said we are no longer under religion. Do these fake pastors even think people no longer know the Bible? How can you say we are no longer under religion but a relationship, when the word relationship is not found in the Bible, but we can find the word religion.

James 1:27 (KJV)
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

As seen above, the Bible defines religion as visiting the fatherless and widows in their time of affliction and to also keep oneself unspotted from the world. Yet this fake pastor that Daddy Freeze the agrees with is saying we are no longer under religion. He simply means we are no longer obligated to visit the fatherless and widows, and we are not to obey the word which says we should keep ourselves unspotted from the world. He simply means we can now be like the world. No wonder he advocates that females can wear trousers, a thing God hates.

For all those who might think trouser is a modern invention, read the book of Daniel which described what Shedrach, Meschach and Abrdnego wore as males. It mentions hosen which means trousers .

Daniel 3:20-21 (KJV)
20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

God has promised to destroy those who wear strange apparel because he hates it.

Zephaniah 1:8 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass in the day of the
L ORD 's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

Deuteronomy 22:5 (KJV)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the L ORD thy God.

kobobay:
I do not need to study different textbooks when i know the RIGHT TEXTBOOK to use. It has been tested and it is found to be true.
Fellowship does not equal relationship. You are such a confused fella. You can have relationship and not fellowship with the person. When you are living in London and your family is living in Lagos, Nigeria. You have relationship but not fellowshipping with them.

Other versons are from the corrupt maniscript which Westcott abd Hort used for their selfish gain. Other versions taught works salvation, corrupted WORD OF GOD.

MuttleyLaff:
thank you ....even the bible qouat in new testerment that behold old things has passed away and everything are become new.





If pesin comment now, pipul soon go be saying itootok, so instead I will ask you this request and questions alBHAGDADI:
1/ Kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, and this is particularly, if at all, you really do know, please soon explain to us, the reason behind why, in the Bible, God said cross dressing strikingly, is an abomination to Him and the cause why women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women
2/ Do you have evidence of Denrele or Bobrisky hiding the fact and truth to anyone that they are males?
3/ Leave trousers for one side, if you arent comfortable seeing women wearing them. Is it OK for women to wear agbada, shirts, baseball caps, hmm?
4/ Dont males from the East, the urhobos to be precise, tie wrappers as part of their culture, hmm?
5/ What is the recurrent feature showing in the following bible verses: Ruth 3:9, 1 Samuel 24:5, Ezekiel 16:8, Zechariah 8:23
6/ As for a Scot, what should become of his kilt, a knee-length non-bifurcated skirt with pleats at the back hmm?

woleabayo, Sally97 and bankylan, you trio guys, dont seem to know nwanne, my customer mi, daada ni, nwanne alBHAGDADI.

Let me introduce you to who alBHAGDADI is and what he stands for. He is a certified and bonafide pharisaical, intolerant, bigoted, narrow-minded, small-minded tithe merchant who validates, spreads and promotes obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing and by cherry picking, would with great effort or energy, say and do anything or something to have legal right or a just claim to receive or have something to do with the sense of entitlement to obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing. All this, his posts upandan the forum, about old testament laws being valid etcetera, is a ruse, a ruse for tithing, an exercise in smoke and mirrors for me.

He is my very good customer. We have regular transactions together. The most recent one, I have asked him many times over, to please and kindly in a way that a two year old can understand, that's if at all if he really does know, to soon explain to us, the reason behind why, in the Bible, God said cross dressing is an abomination to Him and that women should abstain from wearing what belongs to men, likewise men what belongs to women, but this request seems to be hard and difficult for him to deliver and give answers to.

Agrogbeide knows this man, my nwanne alBHAGDADI very well, that he can't answer direct questions. Nwanne alBHAGDADI cant give any knowledge or information, especially if and when, he doesnt have it above

When people dont at all understand what they are talking about, it is this sort of behaviour of developing cold feet, clamping up and become silent suddenly, over not able to explain the something and/or reason why it is an abomination to God. Of course, I dont blame him for evading and/or avoiding replying to the question(s). This normally happens when you dont know, I dont expect him to give what he doesnt have from above.

sagenaija:
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SHALLOW COMMENTS
How can someone like albhagdadi make statements like:
“These heretic pastors” – does he know what heretic means?
“Where is it written in the entire Bible that we are in a relationship with God?” – Really? Are we members of God’s family and NOT in a relationship with him?
Is the Christian under a dos and don’ts system to qualify for salvation or is it all that God has done to provide eternal life for him by entering him into UNION with Christ for ever? Which is “RELIGION”, and which is “RELATIONSHIP”?


ISSUES IRRELEVANT TO THE CHRISTIAN’S SPIRITUAL LIFE
Look at this current issue – why emphasize only trousers? To throw back the issues at supporters of banning of trousers – Can they show us EXACTLY where the Bible used the WORD “Trousers”? how many of those who shout so loudly against trouser wearing criticize wrapper wearing by men? What of other clothings mentioned by others on this thread?

WARNING – THERE IS FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN
tbaby534 summarized it – “Nigeria is on fire and we are arguing about trouser wearing”. 99.9% of Christians in Nigeria don’t know this. They are fed daily with “All is Well”, “You shall be the head ant not the tail”, and other nonsensical doctrines of demons. Unfortunately, it’s some MEANINGLESS issues that seem to ATTRACT the attention of Nigerian Christians.

Ask the Nigerian Christian about justification, he doesn’t know. Ash him about his position in Christ, he is lost. Ask him about propitiation, he will say it is big grammar. Break it down for him and he is still at sea. What of reconciliation, regeneration, imputation, etc – he knows next to nothing about them.
He majors in the irrelevant and has completely disregarded the more important.

woleabayo:
oga have seen a deeper life sister that pick up a theater art course in school but she does not wear trouser ...but when she gets to the department the hod let her knows that to be successful in that course whenever shes coming for rehearses she need to put on the department wear which her sweat pant and white t shirt ...she has no option than to abide....( my point is there are some profession that require you wearing trousers will you say cos you are a Christine you will not pick the job) NYSC as an example

woleabayo:
you see when we talk about trouser ..we have ladies trouser that were specially made for them..and we have mens trousers ....where the sin comes from is when the lady picked the one ment for guys and wear ok.... why cant we say men,man or guys tying towel is using ladies wear no or the eastern people that wrapper is their traditional wear can we say its a sin? because they put on women clothes..so when talking of issues like this it takes sensitive thinking before you reply(am not saying pastor kumuyi is wrong ....and am not saying the other pastor is right.." think deep ok

sagenaija:
LAZY, SPIRITUALLY UNEDUCATED AND UNTHINKING NIGERIAN CHRISTIAN
What we see ALL OVER this thread (as well as in others too) is what years of LACK of good foundational education in schools and lack of PROPER DOCTRINAL teachings in the church have done to Nigerians.
The Nigerian Christian can no longer REASON. He fully accepts a SECTARIAN point of view and runs with it.

SHALLOW COMMENTS
How can someone like albhagdadi make statements like:
“These heretic pastors” – does he know what heretic means?
“Where is it written in the entire Bible that we are in a relationship with God?” – Really? Are we members of God’s family and NOT in a relationship with him?
Is the Christian under a dos and don’ts system to qualify for salvation or is it all that God has done to provide eternal life for him by entering him into UNION with Christ for ever? Which is “RELIGION”, and which is “RELATIONSHIP”?

Ask the Nigerian Christian about justification, he doesn’t know. Ash him about his position in Christ, he is lost. Ask him about propitiation, he will say it is big grammar. Break it down for him and he is still at sea. What of reconciliation, regeneration, imputation, etc – he knows next to nothing about them.
He majors in the irrelevant and has completely disregarded the more important.

alBHAGDADI:
2 Timothy 4:2 King James Version (KJV)
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

GoodMuyis:
Please Don't insult Nigeria, There Asian Churches who, American Christians who still stand on Deut 22:5

Dealing with God does not position us in absolute liberty, there are Dos and Don't,

Example of Do:
Come

budaatum:
You will forgive, but you do mean:

Her Most Royal Majesty, 'Queen Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth and Defender of the Faith'.

Look carefully now!

FreelanceRebel:
You must show me where she wore Jeans strouser..

budaatum:
Jeans. But not "strouser".

woleabayo:
you see when we talk about trouser ..we have ladies trouser that were specially made for them..and we have mens trousers ....where the sin comes from is when the lady picked the one ment for guys and wear ok.... why cant we say men,man or guys tying towel is using ladies wear no or the eastern people that wrapper is their traditional wear can we say its a sin? because they put on women clothes..so when talking of issues like this it takes sensitive thinking before you reply(am not saying pastor kumuyi is wrong ....and am not saying the other pastor is right.." think deep ok

alBHAGDADI:
These heretic pastors keep increasing by the day. Imagine the junk this man just spewed from the pulpit, saying we are not under religion but in a relationship with God. Where is it written in the entire Bible that we are in a relationship with God? Is there even the word relationship in the Bible? Yet Christians are bring fooled by the cute phrase "we are in a relationship with God, not religion".

The sad part is that pastor Abel Damina said we are no longer under religion. Do these fake pastors even think people no longer know the Bible? How can you say we are no longer under religion but a relationship, when the word relationship is not found in the Bible, but we can find the word religion.

James 1:27 (KJV)
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

As seen above, the Bible defines religion as visiting the fatherless and widows in their time of affliction and to also keep oneself unspotted from the world. Yet this fake pastor that Daddy Freeze the agrees with is saying we are no longer under religion. He simply means we are no longer obligated to visit the fatherless and widows, and we are not to obey the word which says we should keep ourselves unspotted from the world. He simply means we can now be like the world. No wonder he advocates that females can wear trousers, a thing God hates.

For all those who might think trouser is a modern invention, read the book of Daniel which described what Shedrach, Meschach and Abrdnego wore as males. It mentions hosen which means trousers .

Daniel 3:20-21 (KJV)
20 And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
21 Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.

God has promised to destroy those who wear strange apparel because he hates it.

Zephaniah 1:8 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass in the day of the
L ORD 's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

Deuteronomy 22:5 (KJV)
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the L ORD thy God.