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Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by olatunyemi(m): 6:38am On Apr 13, 2019
[quote author=Yusman316 post=77494732][/quote].You are also hiding your religion because your faith is week. If you keep hiding and others are fighting for religious right, will your religion remain the same
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Lilimax(f): 6:49am On Apr 13, 2019
ChristianNorth:
Kadaria Ahmed is a Christian, don't deceive the public.
She has converted to Christian since. shocked
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Lilimax(f): 6:51am On Apr 13, 2019
osuofia2:
Muslims will be quiet here...forcing religion on people is a no no, give freedom to those practicing Islam , Islam will die a natural death
#fact
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Lilimax(f): 6:53am On Apr 13, 2019
chiedu7:
This proves 2 things.

1] islam is not peaceful. You leave Islam and they want to kill you.

2] God & allah are not the same. If allah were God, dont you think that allah will tell moslems not to kill christians?
Instead allah proscribes death for anybody going to worship God.

Most worrying allah tells moslems not to befriend christians, Even went as far as confirming he is not the Christian God.

Surah 5:51
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another.
And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them.
Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.


Now you understand why the bible & quoran say different things,they are from different spirits.

The Quoran from allah, Bible from God.

example of some differences.

THE CHRISTIAN GOD COMMANDS TO LOVE YOUR WIFE

Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;



Colossians 3:19
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
and
BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.


ALLAH COMMANDS TO BEAT YOUR WIFE




Qur'an (38:44) -
"And take in your hand a green branch
AND BEAT HER WITH IT,



Qur'an (4:34) -
"Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to
....... BEAT THEM;


So we can safely say that God & allah are different.

This video sheds more light!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-i_usnHXs
Chai! You sabi book them fa...
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Ykol(m): 7:00am On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Yes Islam is a religion.

And Islam means total submission to Allah in peace. Only Islam was not name after human being or any creature.

Jews was name after Judah

Christainity was name after Jesus you be ignorant tho

Etc.

But only Islam was accepted by creator.

Christainity got their names from pagan, pagan are the first to name christain.

Only in Islam heaven sure
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Wallade(m): 7:24am On Apr 13, 2019
TarOrfeek:
Let us think.

What if Kadaria 'Mumu' Ahmad started this scandal to attract pity and sympathy.

After all we were roasting her few days ago for her soft stance on Buhari and calling the government of a state useless.

Make una dey try think. Nigeria wahmen are snakes.
Honestly, I believe she orchestrated it.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by luvmijeje(f): 7:37am On Apr 13, 2019
The man identified as Amb. Abdulrahman Yahaya also made a public threat on Twitter where he described the journalist as a walking corpse for converting from Islam to Christianity.
This criminal should be the focus of attention. Maupe is disappointing me. Why is she defending rubbish. Turn defense to attack. A searchlight should be beam on this fool.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by toideve(m): 7:53am On Apr 13, 2019
olas24u:
Islam is different from an hausa fulani man, separate the two.
WHAT of the Middle Easterners? Islam different there too?
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by sagenaija: 8:12am On Apr 13, 2019
kehinde1588:
The word “Islam” is derived from the word meaning “peace” in Arabic. Islam is a religion revealed to mankind with the intention of presenting a peaceful life where the infinite compassion and mercy of Allah manifests on earth. Allah calls all people to live by the moral values He sets so that compassion, mercy, peace and love can be experienced all over the world.

“O You who believe! Enter absolutely into peace (Islam). Do not follow in the footsteps of satan. He is an outright enemy to you.” (Holy Quran: 2, 208).
If, like you said here, the word "Islam" is "peace" then what is the meaning of "Salaam"?

When you greet do you say: "Islam alekum?"
You have either been sold a lie which you have bought into or you're trying to deceive people here.

On the Koran passage you quoted check again; the words used are either "Islam" or "submission" NOT "peace" like you claim here.

Deception is second nature in Islam.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by kingjrofficial(m): 8:28am On Apr 13, 2019
chiedu7:
This proves 2 things.

1] islam is not peaceful. You leave Islam and they want to kill you.

2] God & allah are not the same. If allah were God, dont you think that allah will tell moslems not to kill christians?
Instead allah proscribes death for anybody going to worship God.

Most worrying allah tells moslems not to befriend christians, Even went as far as confirming he is not the Christian God.

Surah 5:51
O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another.
And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them.
Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.


Now you understand why the bible & quoran say different things,they are from different spirits.

The Quoran from allah, Bible from God.

example of some differences.

THE CHRISTIAN GOD COMMANDS TO LOVE YOUR WIFE

Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;



Colossians 3:19
Husbands, LOVE YOUR WIVES,
and
BE NOT BITTER AGAINST THEM.


ALLAH COMMANDS TO BEAT YOUR WIFE




Qur'an (38:44) -
"And take in your hand a green branch
AND BEAT HER WITH IT,



Qur'an (4:34) -
"Men are the maintainers of women because
Allah has made some of them to
....... BEAT THEM;


So we can safely say that God & allah are different.

This video sheds more light!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-i_usnHXs
Let them know..... Stupid Pple
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by kehinde1588(m): 8:30am On Apr 13, 2019
sagenaija:
If, like you said here, the word "Islam" is "peace" then what is the meaning of "Salaam"?

When you greet do you say: "Islam alekum?"
You have either been sold a lie which you have bought into or you're trying to deceive people here.

On the Koran passage you quoted check again; the words used are either "Islam" or "submission" NOT "peace" like you claim here.
.
Deception is second nature in Islam.
Smile. Make your findings very well before crucifying me. Go and make research on how the word "Islam" originated. Islam also means submission
Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by olas24u(f): 8:46am On Apr 13, 2019
toideve:
WHAT of the Middle Easterners? Islam different there too?
Yes they behave differently,the Arabs are racist,short tempered and some pretend .but they are Muslims and Islam is their religion.the Nigerian northerner is uneducated ,have lost their original religion through brainwashing,and they want to live life according to 15century ..but the Arabs are more intelligent and a better civilization and educational system which emphasizes science.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Estaxy21211: 8:47am On Apr 13, 2019
I jst dnt understand dis Islam religion
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by olas24u(f): 8:53am On Apr 13, 2019
toideve:
WHAT of the Middle Easterners? Islam different there too?
If you know about only your religion and think your religion is better than others then it's a problem.the educational system from secondary splits the class in two ,Islamic studies and Christian religious studies ,that was the beginning of the problems.As a Christian or Muslim you need yo know about other people's religion ,so that is helps, in your social interaction and socialization.you can't say your religion is the best and the rest are unbelievers,.You need to know about Christianity a little ,Islam,Shintoism,buddishism, Hinduism,ifa ,so when you come accross them ,you already know and intreract well based on does things you already know or read about it.you cannot say your religion is superior to others.the northners don't have ideas about other people belives,they think their religion is superior and the best.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Kokoebapluse(m): 8:55am On Apr 13, 2019
chiedu7:
Then why is the lady facing death threats?

Please explain this hadith that says to kill apostates

Nasai hadith 37:92
It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim except in three cases: A man who commits adultery after having married; or one who kills intentionally, in which case he deserves retaliation; or one who apostatizes after having become Muslim, in which case he deserves to be killed.'"

https://sunnah.com/nasai/37/92
Let me ask you is this adith is aqidah?
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Nobody: 9:22am On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Yes Islam is a religion.

And Islam means total submission to Allah in peace. Only Islam was not name after human being or any creature.

Jews was name after Judah

Christainity was name after Jesus

Etc.

But only Islam was accepted by creator.

Christainity got their names from pagan, pagan are the first to name christain.

Only in Islam heaven sure
Too much of knacking head on the ground has made you to lose your senses
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Kiddogarcia(m): 10:25am On Apr 13, 2019
The truth here is that,there is a no religion without a history of violence,and if u take a critical look at every religion today,there is this part that preaches violence also.so it all comes down to our level of perception and understanding.i once read how God instructed a bear to kill 40children because they insulted elijah.so if one brother paul kills a kid because he insulted,nigga might make a reference to that part of the bible and say what he did what was right.and this same poo was borne out of the fact that we were made to believe every act of God is good.the only solution to really have a peaceful world,is to make a restriction on who can read the bible or quran.i believe that those who wrote both books are highly intellectual men,so only intellectual people should read and preach to people.not just any dick,tom or harry with dumbskull
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by whizpa(m): 10:40am On Apr 13, 2019
Yusman316:
The reason why some Christians think or believe Islam teaches or encourages violence and that Muslims are terrorists, is simply because they cherry-pick what to practice and believe from Bible/Christianity. Because there is no religion that doesn't talk about how to deal with certain issues which some people perceived as violent. While Muslims follow every instruction of the Qur'an to the latter, some Christians dodge some Bible instructions in the guise of peace or modernization.
Saying Christians dodge some Bible instructions in the guise of peace/modernization might actually be right to an extent but still, you are wrong. The Bible contains the Old Testament which guided people of a certain time in history how to worship God, while The New Testament came in as an amendment for another era. And people realised the amendment was a good thing and was a lot better than the old era/ways in which people served God and they they embraced it. Normally, people would say, "Since we've found a better way, let's do away with the old ways", But you have to know that history is paramount to how we live our lives. The Bible is not a constitution, It is history and a Guideline to a perfect Christian life.

I Don't have a problem with the Islamic practice, My religion has endeared me to living peacefully with people without trying to force or shove my beliefs on them. in your own words, wouldn't it be better if some verses in the Quran were done away with or reformed(for peace sake). I understand Muslim's believe any tamper on the Quran will perverse it, and that makes sense but c'mon.. every adjustment made is to better the life of people. Constitutions are rewritten in relativity with time. When your Quran was written, people rode camels but did that stop them from driving cars? NO. If in the Old Testament Christians saw fit to kill people who didn't share the same belief but then chose to live peacefully with them in The New Testament. Wouldn't you consider that as a good thing? Brother.. You spoke well but you have only manage to contradict yourself.
pardon the epistle.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by whizpa(m): 10:54am On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Yes you right. There is nothing like christainity. Only paganism ( ignorance people) christain adopted all pagan habit of Roman and shape it to suits their own ignorance, Jesus Know nothing about christainity or new testament. But all those things existed 50 years after when God took him. Mark was the first to wrote book among 3 deciples of Jesus that take part in New testament, mark, Matthew,John, and mark wrote his book 50 years later after Jesus, and he wrote nothing but what suit him not what suit God. That is why there are many aguement between Gospel of mark, Mathew,John. See I don't want to talk to much christainity is a scam created by liars.
This one is high on cheap skunk. Well, from what I was able to understand(which is entirely nothing), I can tell that you were never of another faith. I don't understand what you intend to gain by claiming you were once a Christian. Would that score you cheap points with Allah? Cos I'm aware of the art/acts of deception(Taqqiya). Anyway, being aggressive does not work these days.. If you are really desperate for converts then maybe you should try serenading people rather than come deceptively.. Lol
And stop smoking. It is bad for your health.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by sagenaija: 12:25pm On Apr 13, 2019
kehinde1588:
Smile. Make your findings very well before crucifying me. Go and make research on how the word "Islam" originated. Islam also means submission
Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.
"Islam" and "Salam" are clearly two distinct words in the Arabic.

Even in English adding a letter or two to a word can change the meaning to exact opposite. E.g. 'Noble' and 'Ignoble'. So, because two words have a common root does not necessarily make them similar.

The word "Islam", if you refer to Moslem scholars and not Moslem propagandists, actually means "surrender".

Historically, from Mohamed through the caliphs to earlier Moslems, the word had been associated with subjugation, not peace.

Again, I ask: when you greet can you say 'Islam-Alekum' in place of 'Salam-Alekum'?
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Kokoebapluse(m): 12:27pm On Apr 13, 2019
otuekong1:
Too much of knacking head on the ground has made you to lose your senses
As Jesus and the rest people who use to knacked head on the ground lost their senses too right?


Because many people lost sense in Bible because they use to knacked head on the ground
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Kokoebapluse(m): 12:36pm On Apr 13, 2019
whizpa:
This one is high on cheap skunk. Well, from what I was able to understand(which is entirely nothing), I can tell that you were never of another faith. I don't understand what you intend to gain by claiming you were once a Christian. Would that score you cheap points with Allah? Cos I'm aware of the art/acts of deception(Taqqiya). Anyway, being aggressive does not work these days.. If you are really desperate for converts then maybe you should try serenading people rather than come deceptively.. Lol
And stop smoking. It is bad for your health.
All ( taqqiya ) belong to christain. I have nothing to say than seek for right way and come to Islam because christain is a way of fire.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by whizpa(m): 12:48pm On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
All ( taqqiya ) belong to christain. I have nothing to say than seek for right way and come to Islam because christain is a way of fire.
Then I guess you are not Muslim. You are just a wanna be troll and by the look of things an extremist.
Fućk off my mentions.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Kokoebapluse(m): 1:00pm On Apr 13, 2019
whizpa:
Then I guess you are not Muslim. You are just a wanna be troll and by the look of things an extremist.
Fućk off my mentions.
Because of I knack you truth for head right?
Or what do you mean?
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Kokoebapluse(m): 1:04pm On Apr 13, 2019
sagenaija:
"Islam" and "Salam" are clearly two distinct words in the Arabic.

Even in English adding a letter or two to a word can change the meaning to exact opposite. E.g. 'Noble' and 'Ignoble'. So, because two words have a common root does not necessarily make them similar.

The word "Islam", if you refer to Moslem scholars and not Moslem propagandists, actually means "surrender".

Historically, from Mohamed through the caliphs to earlier Moslems, the word had been associated with subjugation, not peace.

Again, I ask: when you greet can you say 'Islam-Alekum' in place of 'Salam-Alekum'?
Islam (Arabic: إسلام‎, IPA: [alʔɪsˈlaːm] (About this soundlisten)) is a verbal noun originating from the triliteral root S-L-M which forms a large class of words mostly relating to concepts of wholeness, submission, safeness, and peace.In a religious context it means "voluntary submission to God". Islām is the verbal noun of Form IV of the root, and means "submission" or "surrender".


You can't surrender without not ready to make peace. Peace itself have many different understanding, so Islam means peace,
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by whizpa(m): 1:19pm On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Because of I knack you truth for head right? Or what do you mean?
Because you can't speak English to save your life.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Kokoebapluse(m): 1:31pm On Apr 13, 2019
whizpa:
Because you can't speak English to save your life.
grin u right even Jesus also can't speak English but people understand him, so if I can't speak English but u can understand me thank God.

Any other things?
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by Nobody: 1:33pm On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
As Jesus and the rest people who use to knacked head on the ground lost their senses too right?


Because many people lost sense in Bible because they use to knacked head on the ground
Mr paedophile terrorist
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by whizpa(m): 1:39pm On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
grin u right even Jesus also can't speak English but people understand him, so if I can't speak English but u can understand me thank God.

Any other things?
Jesus spoke a common language likened to the people of his time.
I reckon you are Yoruba. You might as well speak Yoruba. I'm sure it will better than this nonsense you are spewing.
Adios. That was my final response to your blockhead.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by sagenaija: 2:37pm On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Islam (Arabic: إسلام‎, IPA: [alʔɪsˈlaːm] (About this soundlisten)) is a verbal noun originating from the triliteral root S-L-M which forms a large class of words mostly relating to concepts of wholeness, submission, safeness, and peace.In a religious context it means "voluntary submission to God". Islām is the verbal noun of Form IV of the root, and means "submission" or "surrender".
You can't surrender without not ready to make peace. Peace itself have many different understanding, so Islam means peace,
Trust you Moslems to always come up with ingenious interpretations.

Can an army force another into submission because of superior power even when the other party never wanted peace?

When you say 'peace' let me ask 'peace with who or between who?' Who is offering peace and who is accepting the peace? What is the form of the 'peace'?

Lastly, how did Mohamed, your perfect example and the caliphs after him offer 'peace' to those around them.
Re: Maupe Ogun Debunks Claims That Kadaria Ahmed Is No More A Muslim by chiedu7: 3:03pm On Apr 13, 2019
Kokoebapluse:
Let me ask you is this adith is aqidah?
Lemme ask you is that not the hadith quoted ?


Has the lady not received death threats?


Islam is of the devil
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