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Stupendous stupidity, you have lost your sense of coordination, you were never a Christian, you don't know what Christianity is all about. Going to church is not what make you a Christian, you were just following the crowd. You can never have true Christian experience and go back. You need deliverance from satanic manipulation, get it before its too late.

Another one bites the dust

I just they pity you and your fellow atheist....... na una type devil prepare hot region for hell fire my bible says whoever dosen't believe in GOD is the greatest fool of all time... HappyPagan is your brother

Pentasoft1978:
Stupendous stupidity, you have lost your sense of coordination, you were never a Christian, you don't know what Christianity is all about. Going to church is not what make you a Christian, you were just following the crowd. You can never have true Christian experience and go back. You need deliverance from satanic manipulation, get it before its too late.

A Muslim will tell a new convert from Islam the same thing.

You: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Me: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
You: "But no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

Not bad, the peace of mind and sanity of leaving religion no be here ooo

kingemzy5:
I just they pity you and your fellow atheist.......

You are the one who is in need of pity. Your head is full of Jewish ideas. You know not who you are.

kingemzy5:
na una type devil prepare hot region for hell fire

There is no devil, no Satan. No God taking note of what you do. You are one of over a billion human beings living on this planet right now. You are not special. You will be here for a while, and gone soon. Like everyone else.

Heaven or hell is what you make earth to be.

kingemzy5:
my bible says whoever dosen't believe in GOD is the greatest fool of all time...

Well, the Bible is just a book. A book containing old Jewish tales, no egusi, akara, or moinmoin. How e use concern you? Why do you let it think for you?

kingemzy5:
HappyPagan is your brother..

I'm a brother to everyone.

I could relate to a lot of things you said here, and if you are familiar with my threads and posts here, you would see exactly why.

But an area i'm not very clear about is who you were before hand, and who you are now, even though from your utterances it seems you had a genuine relationship with God because you were what I call a "righteous christian" and not a wicked one.

So what I clearly want to know is if my inklin was right and that you had a genuine relationship with God, so that you have abandoned that your relationship and belief in Him, and also now no longer believe He exists consequent upon the present the deplorable state of the church, for that is when you've really become an atheist.

So please if you don't mind I'd like you to come and clarify this, if you now do not believe God exists because of all that you listed above.

For In spite of how opposed I am to this most unsavory development of the church, it's hard to find someone that loves God to the extent I do, for that's the main reason for my extent of opposition to today church and her leaders, because I believe God deserves much better than the trash it has been turned to by men who don't truly love God, but themselves and the praise of men.

And the last time I was an active part of a conventional church was close to sixteen years ago, after God Himself told me leave the church I was a part of at the time, which I already saw as inevitable because of the extent of deviation of the standard and focus of the church from that which it was founded upon by Jesus, which is that which I truly belong to.

And believe me the standard of the denomination i was part of at the time was even better than most of church denominations, but yet it still wasn't good enough for the level I observed.

And so instead of my consequent high spiritual potential to be undermined by close interaction with those of a spiritually substandard church, it was necessary that I separated from them for that crucial purpose.

And so sincerely I haven't actively been a part of today's church for about sixteen years, but to tell you the truth, despite I haven't improved on the level of my love for God at the time, because the level at the time was extraordinarily high, that even to maintain it was very hard, needless say improve upon it, I have significantly grown in the extent of my spiritual knowledge of God and also have been entrusted with an unusual extent of God's Spirit.

So that my leaving today's church didn't mean by any stretch that I was leaving God, but that I was even getting even closer to Him and getting to know Him even much better.

So tell me what are you actually leaving, today's church or God?

p.s. Church as it was when Jesus founded it, coming soon!

Pentasoft1978:
Stupendous stupidity, you have lost your sense of coordination, you were never a Christian, you don't know what Christianity is all about. Going to church is not what make you a Christian, you were just following the crowd. You can never have true Christian experience and go back. You need deliverance from satanic manipulation, get it before its too late.

But I am sure u have been jerking off to all those fake news about Muslim terrorists converting to Christianity, right?
How about we say all those Muslims were never really Muslims initially?

U clowns just lose it whenever one of your own stop following your ways and start spewing no true Scotsman fallacies everywhere. Get used to it bro. Your religion is cabbage and it will keep losing followers to logic.

NPComplete:
But I am sure u have been jerking off to all those fake news about Muslim terrorists converting to Christianity, right?
How about we say all those Muslims were never really Muslims initially?

U clowns just lose it whenever one of your own stop following your ways and start spewing no true Scotsman fallacies everywhere. Get used to it bro. Your religion is cabbage and it will keep losing followers to logic.

You started insulting me, so get what you want........muslim is a demonic ocultic group practice, practiced by blood sucking and flesh eating demons like you...Is Muslims a religion?, ...a terrorist religion, killing people home and abroad......a demonic philosophy promising people 72 virgin women in paradise if they take the lives of their fellow human.....if the entire Nigeria was practicing Christianity, Nigeria would had been, one of the best country in the world.....your demonic religion is what is dragging this country backward.

Pentasoft1978:
You started insulting me, so get what you want........muslim is a demonic ocultic group practice, practiced by blood sucking and flesh eating demons like you...Is Muslims a religion?, ...a terrorist religion, killing people home and abroad......a demonic philosophy promising people 72 virgin women in paradise if they take the lives of their fellow human.....if the entire Nigeria was practicing Christianity, Nigeria would had been, one of the best country in the world.....your demonic religion is what is dragging this country backward.

Lol bloody clown. U think I am a Muslim? Hahahaha.
The joke is on u. You don't even have the intelligence to do a thorough research before shooting blind. Typical of a religionist. Always believing what they want and not looking at reality

NPComplete:
Lol bloody clown. U think I am a Muslim? Hahahaha.
The joke is on u. You don't even have the intelligence to do a thorough research before shooting blind. Typical of a religionist. Always believing what they want and not looking at reality

What is the reality....proof me wrong

https://www.nairaland.com/5131164/please-me/1
Happy palm Sunday guys. Please in the name of Christ lend a hand of help. Thanks.

I understand your point OP. Watching what is going on in present day Christendom is sickening and one begins to doubt Christianity. But the religion offers peace of mind and satisfaction when you meet a genuine group of believers. If you don't mind I'll refer you to a site: www.christadelphia.org. They are a body of worldwide believers which pattern their beliefs and teachings after the first century Christians

Miles300:
Why I'm no longer a 'Christian'

These are words I thought I may never have to utter publicly, but feel it's about time, as people are already beginning to connect me with atheism.

I believe in people's right to self determination, to choose which God to worship or even to choose to doubt his existence. I have many wonderful friends who identify with atheism. I respect them. Heck, I've met Atheists who have a higher moral compass than some 'Christians' I know, Atheists who are more inclined to protect my interest and see me elevated.

I've been privileged to live in an European country with a predominantly atheistic population, who are more economically and technologically advanced, have far less viscous tendencies, show more compassion and respect to their fellow humans, than countries where almost everyone professes to be religious and holy. I've learned to believe that economic development is a higher enabler of morality than religion. It's extremely difficult for people to be poor and moral at the same time, no matter how religious.

I like atheists, I respect them but I don't agree with them. I've made these clear through many of my writings. But now it seems I'm one myself, at least that's the public persona I've unwittingly created. I'm no longer a 'Christian', by the standards of today's Christianity, merely based on my criticisms of organized christianity in this country.

Do I have a problem with organized religion? Yes I do! Spoiler alert: there's a man from Galilee who also vehemently opposed organized religion whose tenets were not established on Gods law. He's called Jesus the Messiah, and his approach was much more radical. It might surprise you to know that just the other day, he went to a 'church' to angrily whip some 'worshippers' out. Yes he did that.

Given that over 80 million of our citizens identify as Christian, do you ever feel the essence of this identity in our socio-political endeavors? If after all these years, which translates into countless hours of prayer and worship, the impact on our development has been largely negligible (if not counter progressive), then, most likely, something is not working. Something is wrong! The rational thing to do is to at least question our approach. I have numerous questions that I, unfortunately, can't keep to myself, and that makes me an atheist.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't see anything wrong with Jesus's message of love, peace and hope, I see a lot wrong with the church today.

Do I attend church? Yes I do, but occasionally. Lately I've elected myself to attending church once a month. Of course I know that means I'm no longer a Christian. Good Christians go to church every Sunday, spend, sometimes, up to 5 hours worshipping God and 'fellowshipping' with people they pretend to like. People they have no interest in and no inclination to see become successful, people they would brush aside should they meet on a Monday, especially if they do not attend the same church.

I believe many Christians spend this much time in church because it makes us feel good and holy. We've reduced Christianity to a set of rituals instead of a set of character and attitude! And because it's been reduced to a set of outward rituals, people perceived to be judiciously performing these rituals are considered good Christians. For instance, a politician who steals from the state and makes hefty donations to the church is given the best seat and the most majestic title. Forget about the fact that his corrupt practices is the reason others won't make it to heaven.

A person who prays in 5873 tongues is considered spiritual, even if they are a different species from Monday to Friday (if you want to know who a real Christian is, ask the cleaners and security guards at their offices). A person who attends every prayer meeting and partakes in every fasting is expected to make the first entry through the pearly gates, forget about the fact that he/she shows no love or compassion to their fellow human beings.

Outward rituals have only one purpose: to receive praise from man. We all have a natural proclivity to acting this way because it's socially desirable. This explains why a new species of Nigerians are born each Sunday morning and die on Monday mornings, only to be reincarnated on Sunday mornings, and this cycle of life continues till thy kingdom come.

But I'm afraid God turned this 'doctrine' upside down when He said he's more concerned about what's inside a person's heart than what they pretend to be on the outside. By attending church once a month, I consciously condition my mind into accepting that church is wherever I find myself. I know, I know, it's written somewhere in the Bible not to forsake the gathering together of the saints, but isn't it also written that "where two or three are gathered in my name, behold I'm there also"? Church is what happens when you meet the cleaner and security guard at your office entrance. When you attend to the desperate citizen needing assistance at the government ministry you're employed, when you a reasonable contract signing as a representative of the state, when you give the job to the young lady based on her qualifications not your selfish sexual desires....Of course, I'm not a Christian because I talk about stuff like these.

I believe Church is not what happens when you're sitting in an Airconditionerd room and listening to a sermon you're most likely to forget before it's over. Church is you! Haven't we read that our our bodies is the temple of God? Of course we have! But somehow the only message many of us got from that text is in its relation to sin. Hardly heard anyone say, "because my body is the temple of God (which by extension means my body is church) I ought to exude love and goodness to others, wherever I am".

Also, (and here's perhaps the best representation of my atheism) I think many of the so called 'men of God' are only inspired by economics and not a desire for the things of God. They are not "prophets" because they love God. They are 'prophets' because they love money. Their 'calling' is an economic necessity, an entrepreneurial avenue. 80 million Christians is a big economy and it's only natural that people would have the incentives to want to cash in.

And the good thing is, the government incentivizes this 'industry' very faithfully; there's no tax obligation and no requirement for financial accountability. I think the African politician considers the church an important element in preserving their power and sanity. Because the church sells an important message: the devil is responsible for poverty.

The church defers government's responsibility to God. Each Sunday millions of our citizens troop to church to ask God to do what they should be asking their government to do. So government can have tax payer funded vacations with mistresses in exotic places, transfer the nation's wealth to secret offshore accounts, live in the poshest neighborhoods, drive the biggest cars and disturb the very citizens who gave them their vote with annoying sirens because they are too "big" to stay in the very congested roads their inactions have created. And they still have a sound sleep at night. If we exerted a fraction of the energy we put into prayer in keeping our government on its toes, we wouldn't have to bother God over the little things.

Again, I'm told anyone who professes to be Christian and see something wrong with the constant display of absurdity by these 'prophets' on our TV screens is lost in the vicissitudes of wonderland. I'm no longer a 'Christian' because good Christians don't criticize the church, no matter it's form.

Do I pay tithes? No I don't. This one deserves its own article. In summary, 'tithe' is what I do when I provide an underprivileged kid a decent education.

Right now I'm in a bit of a conundrum because Atheists, especially the radical ones, would not extend a hand of welcome to me as well. Perhaps I have to start my own church then. The Right Reverend Holy Prophet Dr. Shimasaan Kelvin Anger Global Outreach Ministry, coming to a classroom near you.

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