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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:35pm On Apr 14, 2019
Humility017:
I understand you... I will drop those words and will thereafter apologise should the coach drop that goal keeper in the next match....
he did same at the last under 20 world cup in.new Zealand... that enahoro goalie despite his blunders he allowed him man the post still.... don't wanna talk much
Alampasu was terrible in the Swedish game but he ended up, keeper of the tournament. The coaches see all three keepers in camp, maybe he is sharp in training. Also i believe, he is the tallest which could have been a factor in his selection.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:35pm On Apr 14, 2019
Onyekuru scored today
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:35pm On Apr 14, 2019
Joebie:
I’m not about who is at fault for Tega’s Nigerian PR Nightmare here as I’ve addressed this before. But the reality before us is that Tega has one worse than the others u mentioned. Regardless he made worse statements that fueled it. So he too shares in the blame. It’s always going to be hard for Pinnick to make another approach unless he does it secretly.
There is a no huge difference to what he said in comparison to the German boys.

However it was perceived VERY BADLY and Very wrongly by many including here. But his intention was very different.

Also it's gone into the realm of politics he really can not say too much.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness:
I now know the reason Simon Moses is not scoring goals. He has played as a LWB in most games.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nelszx: 9:37pm On Apr 14, 2019
forgiveness:
I now the reason Simon Moses is not scoring goals. He has played as a LWB in most games.
That's what he has been playing with Levante
He does more defending and a little dash in attack
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:38pm On Apr 14, 2019
Frank Onyeka with another goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:43pm On Apr 14, 2019
nelszx:
That's what he has been playing with Levante
He does more defending and a little dash in attack
Exactly! And whenever he dashes into attack he creates chances. He is best a winger.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:51pm On Apr 14, 2019
forgiveness:
Exactly! And whenever he dashes into attack he creates chances. He is best a winger.
Simon has excellent workrate so he is good at defending too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:53pm On Apr 14, 2019
I'm so gutted, I had to miss the match. Couldn't help it. But, following the comments here, I'd try to catch a replay.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:56pm On Apr 14, 2019
tbaba1234:
Simon has excellent workrate so he is good at defending too.
Apparently!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 9:56pm On Apr 14, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Akande and the likes do not need the U17 to propel their careers and lives. Just like players like Sancho and Foden did not need the U17. Same with the likes of Fabregas and David Silva.

Their country have well laid out structure to develop them. The likes of Akande can join in the U20 to boost the name of their fatherland but in the U17, for every Akande we take means a tougher life for a kid who is fighting to achieve his dreams.

I repeat the U17 will better the development of young players in a long way if it is restricted for grassroot development. Same with the u15s.
You've highlighted reasons why you so believe in what you believe in, I understand but I don't agree with you.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:10pm On Apr 14, 2019
chrisooblog:
komekn again I don't get your point first of all the german boys it's only udokhai who has shown some favourable signals towards playing for nigeria and none of them has even been called up so what's the angst?

On Tammy abraham's matter the boy said he doesn't want to play for us so why are we still arguing over a non issue I wish him all the best if he changes his mind and wants to play for us then we can discuss this matter

As for dominic before this year he had been poor for the past odd year and a half so I don't see we're getting this analysis of poor treatment given to him
When exactly did he become poor according to you❓ Please give your unit of measurement to conclude he was poor.

The time sequence is the very important and intrinsic to any deduction on this subject.

At the time he made his commitment in the summer of
2017 he was still playing for Wolves. And just played his last game for England U21. That's the pertinent time frame. I could add it was after he had just secured a long term contract with Wolves then Mendes and Nuno came in and everything changed literally over night.

So at what stage did he become poorhuh

Although not particularly relevant but since his move to Sheffield Wednesday in the January transfer window. He had been a stand out player for Sheffield Wednesday. Scoring 3 goals in 11 games for a defender is quite impressive considering he had his first game in February. Is that your idea of poor.huh

He was EXCLUDED from Wolves by Nuno not even allowed to train with the first team. Although Wolves were top of the U23 with Dominic getting rave reviews for his performances. He got injured at Ipswich and played less than half a season under the kick and rush manager McCarthey. So when did he become poorhuh

Don't you think you may indeed be prejudiced and biased because your deduction is not based on any facts or figures.

Just emotive negative bias.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:25pm On Apr 14, 2019
Bolowolowo:
Naija players are looking fresh for this summer.

Ajayi - premiership player of the month. Onyekuru, Onuachu and Chukwueze banging in goals. Ndidi and Etebo going hard in the midfield.


All looks good for this summer’s outing.

#NoShaking
Never heard of this before.

Have you got your wires crossed Semi Ajayi plays for the kick and rush masters of the English Championship.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:30pm On Apr 14, 2019
Three reasons Chukwueze may not make the squad for AFCON:

1 Gernot Rohr is a conservative man-manager and prefers to give places to players he is familiar with. His conservative style even shows in the tactics he employs against opponents. He also stated earlier that opportunities for inclusion into the final Squad would only be given to players who have proven to be significantly better than those in the Squad. Is chukwueze clearly better than Moses Simon, Onyekuru, Ahmed Musa, Samuel kalu? Based on recent form yes...but can he maintain that form until the AFCON starts or will he fizzle out before the tournament?

2 It is a known fact that we have never won the U-20 tournament. The youth coaches may not want to sacrifice a gem like Chukwueze to the Senior Squad since his quality and experience playing in the La-Liga could prove indispensable to the team. I foresee them appealing to Rohr so that Chukweze would be made to play for the U-20 rather than the Senior Squad.

3 His inclusion would mean one of Ahmed Musa, Samuel kalu, Moses Simon or Onyekuru would be dropped from the team. This may cause negative tensions in the locker room which is not good for team spirit and cohesiveness. Rohr would want to avoid this.

Please note that I am not against Chukwueze featuring in the AFCON tournament but I doubt he will.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:31pm On Apr 14, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Talent is one thing.

Another is opportunity to improve your talent and market it. These the foreign borns already have but lots of our local talent lack. The U17 gives them these and bringing in foreign borns take these away from them.

Finito.
Anyway you put it it is still discrimination. I don't care what the foreign pros have they should be allowed to represent their country in peace. Can you look one of those children in the face and tell them they can't play for their country because bla bla bla?

Why is Kelechi Nwakali bouncing around on loan if the U17 is the perfect market. I put it to you that he would be doing way better if he had just gone on trials. This proves that playing in the U17 is not the end all. After all Osimhen wouldn't have been on the u17 team if he had made the Lagos state team that year.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:31pm On Apr 14, 2019
komekn:
Never heard of this before.

Have you got your wires crossed Semi Ajayi plays for the kick and rush masters of the English Championship.
I think he meant to say Championship player of the month
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 10:47pm On Apr 14, 2019
komekn:
When exactly did he become poor according to you❓ Please give your unit of measurement to conclude he was poor.

The time sequence is the very important and intrinsic to any deduction on this subject.

At the time he made his commitment in the summer of
2017 he was still playing for Wolves. And just played his last game for England U21. That's the pertinent time frame. I could add it was after he had just secured a long term contract with Wolves then Mendes and Nuno came in and everything changed literally over night.

So at what stage did he become poorhuh

Although not particularly relevant but since his move to Sheffield Wednesday in the January transfer window. He had been a stand out player for Sheffield Wednesday. Scoring 3 goals in 11 games for a defender is quite impressive considering he had his first game in February. Is that your idea of poor.huh

He was EXCLUDED from Wolves by Nuno not even allowed to train with the first team. Although Wolves were top of the U23 with Dominic getting rave reviews for his performances. He got injured at Ipswich and played less than half a season under the kick and rush manager McCarthey. So when did he become poorhuh

Don't you think you may indeed be prejudiced and biased because your deduction is not based on any facts or figures.

Just emotive negative bias.
sorry you're the one that's been biased and sentimental when you insist that dominic was wrongly excluded by the wolves coach when you have not shown evidence to show that he was one of the best defenders within that time frame for some reason you keep sounding like his football agent other than an unbiased observer who is supposed to look at all sides of the argument
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 10:52pm On Apr 14, 2019
Five things the Super Eagles must avoid at the AFCON

1 Underrating our opponents: No country made it via sloppy play. Each Representative gave her best and as such should be accorded respect. Every Team has a point to prove and we should avoid upsets happening against us

2 Goal-Keeping errors: I foresee our group opponents packing the bus against us. In that vain, if we go a goal down due to GK errors, it may prove difficult to equalize or even win. Our GK dept has given us cause to worry time and again and I hope the SE handlers come up with a solution soonest.

3 Social Media Abuse: I would like to take us back to the WC 2018. It is arguable that the Social Media Hype and over-exposure contributed to the team's poor performance. Henceforth, we need to take heed. The Players need 200% concentration both in training and during matches.

4 Lack of creativity: I earlier stipulated that our group opponents may want to pack the trailer against us in our group games. This is when we would need the services of defense splitting passes. Our attackers have to put in the work. In case Mikel or Iwobi has an off day, we need Onyekuru, Moses Simon et al to step up. However, I would stress that the lack of creativity in the middle is a worrying trend in our present SE and Rohr has his work cut out for him.

5 Questionable Team Selection: This is one of the things Rohr has to guard against. We don't need last minute lionel Messi's in our team (those that start scoring goals for fun once tournament is 2 weeks away). What we need are tried and tested players passionate and patriotic enough to give us their best. No place for bench warmers or disappointed Innit boys. Our Team shouldn't be a second option to those that spat on our face when we gave them the opportunity.

I wish us all the best in our coming friendlies and in the tournament proper. Go Super Eagles
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by gamaliel9: 10:58pm On Apr 14, 2019
By the time you wake up...Chukwueze have brought the u20 world cup to Nigeria...just like Messi did it single-handedly for Argentina 2005
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:19pm On Apr 14, 2019
BascoVanVeli:
Anyway you put it it is still discrimination. I don't care what the foreign pros have they should be allowed to represent their country in peace. Can you look one of those children in the face and tell them they can't play for their country because bla bla bla?

Why is Kelechi Nwakali bouncing around on loan if the U17 is the perfect market. I put it to you that he would be doing way better if he had just gone on trials. This proves that playing in the U17 is not the end all. After all Osimhen wouldn't have been on the u17 team if he had made the Lagos state team that year.
God bless you... you said it all.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:20pm On Apr 14, 2019
gamaliel9:
By the time you wake up...Chukwueze have brought the u20 world cup to Nigeria...just like Messi did it single-handedly for Argentina 2005
not with that Aigbogun of a coach... Pinnick messed up him and his crew should have retained Amunike
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:20pm On Apr 14, 2019
gamaliel9:
By the time you wake up...Chukwueze have brought the u20 world cup to Nigeria...just like Messi did it single-handedly for Argentina 2005
not with that Aigbogun of a coach... Pinnick messed up him and his crew should have retained Amunike...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:22pm On Apr 14, 2019
darkelf:
Five things the Super Eagles must avoid at the AFCON

1 Underrating our opponents: No country made it via sloppy play. Each Representative gave her best and as such should be accorded respect. Every Team has a point to prove and we should avoid upsets happening against us

2 Goal-Keeping errors: I foresee our group opponents packing the bus against us. In that vain, if we go a goal down due to GK errors, it may prove difficult to equalize or even win. Our GK dept has given us cause to worry time and again and I hope the SE handlers come up with a solution soonest.

3 Social Media Abuse: I would like to take us back to the WC 2018. It is arguable that the Social Media Hype and over-exposure contributed to the team's poor performance. Henceforth, we need to take heed. The Players need 200% concentration both in training and during matches.

4 Lack of creativity: I earlier stipulated that our group opponents may want to pack the trailer against us in our group games. This is when we would need the services of defense splitting passes. Our attackers have to put in the work. In case Mikel or Iwobi has an off day, we need Onyekuru, Moses Simon et al to step up. However, I would stress that the lack of creativity in the middle is a worrying trend in our present SE and Rohr has his work cut out for him.

5 Questionable Team Selection: This is one of the things Rohr has to guard against. We don't need last minute lionel Messi's in our team (those that start scoring goals for fun once tournament is 2 weeks away). What we need are tried and tested players passionate and patriotic enough to give us their best. No place for bench warmers or disappointed Innit boys. Our Team shouldn't be a second option to those that spat on our face when we gave them the opportunity.

I wish us all the best in our coming friendlies and in the tournament proper. Go Super Eagles
but you said we don't need mikel....? now you mentioning creativity and you slipped in mikel and iwobi...
you really need to go watch the Nigeria vs RSA match...where little or no creativity robbed us in that match
for the goalkeepers... the Katsina Utd goal keeper should man the post... he is better than the Uzoho and Akpeyi of a guy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:25pm On Apr 14, 2019
darkelf:
Three reasons Chukwueze may not make the squad for AFCON:

1 Gernot Rohr is a conservative man-manager and prefers to give places to players he is familiar with. His conservative style even shows in the tactics he employs against opponents. He also stated earlier that opportunities for inclusion into the final Squad would only be given to players who have proven to be significantly better than those in the Squad. Is chukwueze clearly better than Moses Simon, Onyekuru, Ahmed Musa, Samuel kalu? Based on recent form yes...but can he maintain that form until the AFCON starts or will he fizzle out before the tournament?

2 It is a known fact that we have never won the U-20 tournament. The youth coaches may not want to sacrifice a gem like Chukwueze to the Senior Squad since his quality and experience playing in the La-Liga could prove indispensable to the team. I foresee them appealing to Rohr so that Chukweze would be made to play for the U-20 rather than the Senior Squad.

3 His inclusion would mean one of Ahmed Musa, Samuel kalu, Moses Simon or Onyekuru would be dropped from the team. This may cause negative tensions in the locker room which is not good for team spirit and cohesiveness. Rohr would want to avoid this.

Please note that I am not against Chukwueze featuring in the AFCON tournament but I doubt he will.
you guys make me laugh... you think other countries are there to play? for crying out loud you have the south americans and the europeans cooking some surprises for us. give that under 20 backroom staffs messi... they will still be clueless and can't win jack.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by leathalbeast: 11:35pm On Apr 14, 2019
gamaliel9:
This u17 match against Tanzania...sweet me die...

1. We now have a tradition of producing LEFT-FOOTED bombers...Iheanacho...Chukwueze....and now Amoo....This Amoo is something else...
2.It is now evident that Manu Garba is an attack minded coach
3.We beat the home team with their supporters,we will go far...it shows character
4. We came from behind to win..it shows depth
5. The substitutes were as good as first team players.

Finally,

Today, Chukwueze s goal catapulted Villarreal from 19th to 15th position in La Liga..we need to win both AFCON AND U20 but i would like Chukwueze to win u20 for us and shut Ghana up forever...He is still young...many AFCONS TO COME but once he is over 20...c` est fini pour lui.

Savvy?
this is mentality that u have which will make you never win the u-20. Do you think ghanaians care if you win it or not? When we won ours we didnt have this evil mentality in our minds, we were simply carrying the spirit of africa and making africa proud.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by leathalbeast: 11:40pm On Apr 14, 2019
gamaliel9:
By the time you wake up...Chukwueze have brought the u20 world cup to Nigeria...just like Messi did it single-handedly for Argentina 2005
when was the last time you even went to u-20 final ? Even with manu garba's near perfect
team, you only made it to 1/16th not to talk about this weak team. Be grateful if they even get to the semis.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 11:57pm On Apr 14, 2019
Humility017:
you guys make me laugh... you think other countries are there to play? for crying out loud you have the south americans and the europeans cooking some surprises for us. give that under 20 backroom staffs messi... they will still be clueless and can't win jack.
See ehn bro. Don't get me wrong. I want him in the Super Eagles Squad but I just listed reasons his name may be omitted when the final list is released. If he isn't selected, do we start crying foul? No. We go still play ball na. Abi
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 11:59pm On Apr 14, 2019
Humility017:
but you said we don't need mikel....? now you mentioning creativity and you slipped in mikel and iwobi...
you really need to go watch the Nigeria vs RSA match...where little or no creativity robbed us in that match
for the goalkeepers... the Katsina Utd goal keeper should man the post... he is better than the Uzoho and Akpeyi of a guy
I didn't slip in Mikel. I did it with the knowledge of my earlier disagreements on his selection. Should Mikel play and he doesn't live up to expectation, we need plan B ASAP. That's the summary of all my previous posts on Mikel
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:42am On Apr 15, 2019
You have just agreed that he has a bad PR in Nigeria. So how can we fix that? That’s the crux of the matter.

komekn:
There is a no huge difference to what he said in comparison to the German boys.

However it was perceived VERY BADLY and Very wrongly by many including here. But his intention was very different.

Also it's gone into the realm of politics he really can not say too much.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:46am On Apr 15, 2019
GBAM
BascoVanVeli:
Anyway you put it it is still discrimination. I don't care what the foreign pros have they should be allowed to represent their country in peace. Can you look one of those children in the face and tell them they can't play for their country because bla bla bla?

Why is Kelechi Nwakali bouncing around on loan if the U17 is the perfect market. I put it to you that he would be doing way better if he had just gone on trials. This proves that playing in the U17 is not the end all. After all Osimhen wouldn't have been on the u17 team if he had made the Lagos state team that year.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Joebie: 12:48am On Apr 15, 2019
Na Championship o grin
komekn:
Never heard of this before.

Have you got your wires crossed Semi Ajayi plays for the kick and rush masters of the English Championship.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 1:11am On Apr 15, 2019
komekn:
Never heard of this before.

Have you got your wires crossed Semi Ajayi plays for the kick and rush masters of the English Championship.
Sorry boss meant Championship.
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