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abbey621:
Oga leave story, tell that to the uneducated goats who believe a man that was loved by both Democrats and Hollywood in the 90s and early 200s all of a sudden is a racist, conservative white supremacist hell bent on removing color from America. If you understood how the U.S is structured Constitutionally, you would realize Trump's legacies can be easily wiped out by the next president, either 2020 or 2024. The fear mongering is exactly why we have blacks and latinos being used as race puppets in America.

Obviously you be newbie to the American society. Have you ever heard of "closet Racist"? Obviously, Trump is a closet racist. I'm talking from 32 years of life in the US. Your white boss could be a racist and he will laugh and even invite you to dinner while trying to find a way to get you fired. And I have met people whom I thought were racist who turned out to be the nicest people. I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly when it comes to race relations. As of this minute the vast majority of African Americans, Latinos and even some white will tell you that Trump is a RACIST. End of story. You will come to change your views as time goes on. Just wait.

Emilokoiyawon:
Wait. Rambling? I am providing evidence that the guy who determines how many people enters America does not like Nigerians. So, why would you assume that his policies does not reflect this sentiment? I dare you to place the number of Nigerian Immigrants granted visas each year under Obama vs. those under Trump; and lets see if we do not see a very clear correlation between Trumps rhetorics against Nigerians/Africans and these number. Go ahead. Post these numbers. I dare you.

Lol....Do you realize there's a difference not liking criminals who are Nigerians and not liking Nigerians in general? If you enter the U.S with a tourist visa and overstay your visa, you've broken the law! If you enter using a student visa and failed to attend classes and refuse to return to your country, you've broken the law!

In terms of statistics, I'll do you a favor so you won't have any doubt, see the link below directly from the State dept:

[url]https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2018AnnualReport/FY18AnnualReport%20-%20TableXVIII.pdf[/url]

Hope you can stop your conspiracy theories now

abbey621:
Oga leave story, tell that to the uneducated goats who believe a man that was loved by both Democrats and Hollywood in the 90s and early 200s all of a sudden is a racist, conservative white supremacist hell bent on removing color from America. If you understood how the U.S is structured Constitutionally, you would realize Trump's legacies can be easily wiped out by the next president, either 2020 or 2024. The fear mongering is exactly why we have blacks and latinos being used as race puppets in America.

All of "...a sudden...?" Again you are very far from informed. People know about Trump's racism and white supremacy since the 1970s:

1. Trump's racist rent scheme: https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case
As early as the late 70s Trump and his father hatched a scheme to prevent black people from renting apartments in their buildings. The case was later sent to the courts and Trump and his father were fined for targeting black people with rent discrimination.

2. Central Park 5: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/opinion/why-trump-doubled-down-on-the-central-park-five.html
When 5 black teenagers were arrested for the rape/murder of a jogger in central park, Trump called for their execution even after DNA proved that those boys were innocent.

Dude, I have receipts on your boy Trump. We can do this all day. You are defending that which cannot be defended. Stop owning yourself bro.

NOHOLDSBAR:
Obviously you be newbie to the American society. Have you ever heard of "closet Racist"? Obviously, Trump is a closet racist. I'm talking from 32 years of life in the US. Your white boss could be a racist and he will laugh and even invite you to dinner while trying to find a way to get you fired. And I have met people whom I thought were racist who turned out to be the nicest people. I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly when it comes to race relations. As of this minute the vast majority of African Americans, Latinos and even some white will tell you that Trump is a RACIST. End of story. You will come to change your views as time goes on. Just wait.

Your 32 years in the U.S obviously taught you nothing! A closet racist is one who is afraid of people finding out he or she is racist. Based on things we've been hearing on CNN and from the Democrats Trump does not qualify. So which one is he, a closet racist or a full grown racist? .

As of this moment anyone can call anyone a racist! Obama was called a racist, anti-christ by right wingers for years, Trump was praised as a true entertainer and lover of liberal policies yet here we are today. Your fear mongering would nly work if Trump was president for life, since we all know this can't happen, it is safe to say your fear tactics are toothless!

abbey621:
Lol....Do you realize there's a difference not liking criminals who are Nigerians and not liking Nigerians in general? If you enter the U.S with a tourist visa and overstay your visa, you've broken the law! If you enter using a student visa and failed to attend classes and refuse to return to your country, you've broken the law!

In terms of statistics, I'll do you a favor so you won't have any doubt, see the link below directly from the State dept:

[url]https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2018AnnualReport/FY18AnnualReport%20-%20TableXVIII.pdf[/url]

Hope you can stop your conspiracy theories now

I knew it! You see why I say you are not very smart? I was right to dare you. Look at the numbers in the Report you posted. Under Obama the number of Nigerians and Africans increased every single year and under your boy Trump so far the number has decreased for the first time in a decade. The numbers you posted support my claim that Trump sentiments against blacks/Africans will be reflected in the number of black/Africans that are allowed to enter the US. Who is laughing now?

Emilokoiyawon:
All of "...a sudden...?" Again you are very far from informed. People know about Trump's racism and white supremacy since the 1970s:

1. Trump's racist rent scheme: https://www.npr.org/2016/09/29/495955920/donald-trump-plagued-by-decades-old-housing-discrimination-case
As early as the late 70s Trump and his father hatched a scheme to prevent black people from renting apartments in their buildings. The case was later sent to the courts and Trump and his father were fined for targeting black people with rent discrimination.

2. Central Park 5: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/opinion/why-trump-doubled-down-on-the-central-park-five.html
When 5 black teenagers were arrested for the rape/murder of a jogger in central park, Trump called for their execution even after DNA proved that those boys were innocent.

Dude, I have receipts on your boy Trump. We can do this all day. You are defending that which cannot be defended. Stop owning yourself bro.

That is what you call racism? Pathetic! Then Hilary Clinton and 90% of politicians/business owners and celebrities in the U.S arre racist. In the 1970s hotel and real estate businesses in New York catered mostly to elites and unfortunately most elites back then were white. The fear hosuing act of 1968 was just passed and was not fully enforced, it was not until 1988 that it was amended and fully enforced.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/renters-rights-book/chapter5-2.html

The central Park 5 is no more racist than the case of OJ Simpson or Treyvor Martin. 70% of America thought they were guilty until all the facts came out and even then some people still felt they were guilty. Abeg your bastardization of the word 'RACIST' is hilarious!

abbey621:
That is what you call racism? Pathetic! Then Hilary Clinton and 90% of politicians/business owners and celebrities in the U.S arre racist. In the 1970s hotel and real estate businesses in New York catered mostly to elites and unfortunately most elites back then were white. The fear hosuing act of 1968 was just passed and was not fully enforced, it was not until 1988 that it was amended and fully enforced.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/renters-rights-book/chapter5-2.html

The central Park 5 is no more racist than the case of OJ Simpson or Treyvor Martin. 70% of America thought they were guilty until all the facts came out and even then some people still felt they were guilty. Abeg your bastardization of the word 'RACIST' is hilarious!

I see you have a PhD in whataboutism. We caught you stealing and you say another thief just waka pass. Wetin concern us? Either 10 thiefs waka pass, it does not change the fact that you are thief. Stop your futile evasive moves, it won't work here.

abbey621:
Your 32 years in the U.S obviously taught you nothing! A closet racist is one who is afraid of people finding out he or she is racist. Based on things we've been hearing on CNN and from the Democrats Trump does not qualify. So which one is he, a closet racist or a full grown racist? .

As of this moment anyone can call anyone a racist! Obama was called a racist, anti-christ by right wingers for years, Trump was praised as a true entertainer and lover of liberal policies yet here we are today. Your fear mongering would nly work if Trump was president for life, since we all know this can't happen, it is safe to say your fear tactics are toothless!

Kid, a closet racist is someone who has been a racist all along but has just been outed now like Trump. Better remove the wool on your eyes. Trump was not loved by Hollywood, he tried to be part of Hoollywood, he tried to be of the NFL and was shut down. Son' get a book and read up and American race history before showing your ignorance in public. I don't need CNN or Fox to know a racist when I see one.Your actions and thoughts will give you away. I don't have time nor do I feel like lecturing you on the so many moves that TRAMP has made that outed himself a clear racist. Open your brain and let fresh air in. Just a quick lesson for you son - Go and read about the Central park Jogger rape case, also read up on how Trump discriminated on Housing rental in NY. Just 2 old case will open your eyes. You sound as ignorant as fvck.

Emilokoiyawon:
I see you have a PhD in whataboutism. We caught you stealing and you say another thief just waka pass. Wetin concern us? Either 10 thiefs waka pass, it does not change the fact that you are thief. Stop your futile evasive moves, it won't work here.

Pls stop wasting your time with that fool. He's more than likely one of the people that just got visa lottery into the US and he's on cloud nine right now. The fact is that a clear majority of Americans today will even call Trump a racist including some whites. This clown's views are as worthless as cow shit.

abbey621:
Lol....Do you realize there's a difference not liking criminals who are Nigerians and not liking Nigerians in general?

When your boy Trump said 40,000 Nigerians will not "...go back to their huts" after seeing the US, he was not talking about criminals. He was talking about Nigerian Immigrants. If you do not know, Immigrants have a right to petition the US government for permanent residency and citizenship.

Guy leave this issue. You no sabi. You are too slow.

Emilokoiyawon:
I knew it! You see why I say you are not very smart? I was right to dare you. Look at the numbers in the Report you posted. Under Obama the number of Nigerians and Africans increased every single year and under your boy Trump so far the number has decreased for the first time in a decade. The numbers you posted support my claim that Trump sentiments against blacks/Africans will be reflected in the number of black/Africans that are allowed to enter the US. Who is laughing now?

2009 under Obama First full year: 55,581
2015 Last year of Obama Nigeria: 156,147
2016 First year of Trump Nigeria: 179,145 (SHOCKER: MORE THAN OBAMA)
2018: 143,783

2016 First year of Trump for Denmark: 10,609
2018: 9,559

I guess Trump really hates Danish people too......Guy go sleep!

NOHOLDSBAR:
Pls stop wasting your time with that fool. He's more than likely one of the people that just got visa lottery into the US and he's on cloud nine right now. The fact is that a clear majority of Americans today will even call Trump a racist including some whites. This clown's views are as worthless as cow shit.

The guy is too attached to Trump that's why he cannot reason clearly. Otherwise, how can one explain his inability to see what is right in front of his nose?

Leave am for me. I have his time today. I will teach him, the logic/reasoning skills he refused to learn in school.

[quote author=Emilokoiyawon post=77547829]When your boy Trump said 40,000 Nigerians will not "...go back to their huts" after seeing the US, he was not talking about criminals. He was talking about Nigerian Immigrants. If you do not know, Immigrants have a right to petition the US government for permanent residency and citizenship.

Guy leave this issue. You no sabi. You are too slow.[


He's blind like a bat, hope he can see before he gets deported. People like him are the ones who often end up getting fvcked up and deported. Then he will hate Trump and all whites.

Emilokoiyawon:
When your boy Trump said 40,000 Nigerians will not "...go back to their huts" after seeing the US, he was not talking about criminals. He was talking about Nigerian Immigrants. If you do not know, Immigrants have a right to petition the US government for permanent residency and citizenship.

Guy leave this issue. You no sabi. You are too slow.

Stop being ignorant, if you come on a tourist or student visa you are not an immigrant, you are non immigrant!

Immigrants are those with greencards, they are permanent residents hence they live and work in the U.S. You think Trump is actively pursuing those with greencards? Don't be silly!

abbey621:
2009 under Obama First full year: 55,581
2015 Last year of Obama Nigeria: 156,147
2016 First year of Trump Nigeria: 179,145 (SHOCKER: MORE THAN OBAMA)
2018: 143,783

2016 First year of Trump for Denmark: 10,609
2018: 9,559

I guess Trump really hates Danish people too......Guy go sleep!

Why are you so slow? 2016 is not Trump's first year. 2016 was Obama's last year. You are slow.Trump did not assume office until 2017. You are very slow. Again, under Obama the number of Africans/Nigerians entering America increased EVERY single year. Meanwhile, under your boy Trump, the same number has decreased for the first time in a decade. Go and learn to think. You are not bright. Obviously, when Nigeria sent you, we did not send our best!

Emilokoiyawon:
Why are you so slow? 2016 is not Trump's first year. 2016 was Obama's last year. You are slow.Trump was did not assume office until 2017. You are very slow. Again, under Obama the number of Africans/Nigerians entering America increased EVERY single year. Meanwhile, under your boy Trump, the same number has decreased for the first time in a decade. Go and learn to think. You are not bright. Obviously, when Nigeria sent you, we did not send our best!

LMAO......
I know his type.....Omo oju o ri ola ri.

NOHOLDSBAR:
LMAO......
I know his type.....Omo oju o ri ola ri.

Bobo ye suegbe gan o! Ko ja rara...can't even read basic stats. Haba!

NOHOLDSBAR:
Kid, a closet racist is someone who has been a racist all along but has just been outed now like Trump. Better remove the wool on your eyes. Trump was not loved by Hollywood, he tried to be part of Hoollywood, he tried to be of the NFL and was shut down. Son' get a book and read up and American race history before showing your ignorance in public. I don't need CNN or Fox to know a racist when I see one.Your actions and thoughts will give you away. I don't have time nor do I feel like lecturing you on the so many moves that TRAMP has made that outed himself a clear racist. Open your brain and let fresh air in. Just a quick lesson for you son - Go and read about the Central park Jogger rape case, also read up on how Trump discriminated on Housing rental in NY. Just 2 old case will open your eyes. You sound as ignorant as fvck.

Can you see why your ramblings are laughable? If Trump is racist then Hilary and 90% of all politicians and large business owners in the U.S are also racists!

I already explained how the fair housing act of 1968 was not fully enforced until the 1980s and for the rape case, 70& of all Americans taught they were guilty. Only thing Trump is guilty of is being fooled by the media and always looking for a big profit! Let me get this straight, Trump is racist but someone that calls black men 'SUPER PREDATORS' and was a huge factor enacting laws that profiled them and locked them up is not? Like I said, typical black man, playing victim instead of removing the wool from your eyes.

abbey621:
Can you see why your ramblings are laughable? If Trump is racist then Hilary and 90% of all politicians and large business owners in the U.S are also racists!

I already explained how the fair housing act of 1968 was not fully enforced until the 1980s and for the rape case, 70& of all Americans taught they were guilty. Only thing Trump is guilty of is being fooled by the media and always looking for a big profit! Let me get this straight, Trump is racist but someone that calls black men 'SUPER PREDATORS' and was a huge factor enacting laws that profiled them and locked them up is not? Like I said, typical black man, playing victim instead of removing the wool from your eyes.

Go and sleep. You are embarrassing yourself.

Emilokoiyawon:
Why are you so slow? 2016 is not Trump's first year. 2016 was Obama's last year. You are slow.Trump did not assume office until 2017. You are very slow. Again, under Obama the number of Africans/Nigerians entering America increased EVERY single year. Meanwhile, under your boy Trump, the same number has decreased for the first time in a decade. Go and learn to think. You are not bright. Obviously, when Nigeria sent you, we did not send our best!

Okay let me indulge your craze...lol.

2017: 168,980 Still way more than Obama. Read man, read! Your point is mute, If Trump was targetting Nigerians or Africans in general, shouldn't the numbers decrease to Obama era figures? I mean 150k is way more than 60, 80 or 90k.

To further disprove your ignorance, is Rwanda not part of Africa?

2017: 2,338
2018: 3,339

Surely Rwanda is also occupied by blacks . Guy go sleep!

NO_HOLDSBAR good night joor. This guy is not worth the banter. Na sawdust full him head.

abbey621:
Can you see why your ramblings are laughable? If Trump is racist then Hilary and 90% of all politicians and large business owners in the U.S are also racists!

I already explained how the fair housing act of 1968 was not fully enforced until the 1980s and for the rape case, 70& of all Americans taught they were guilty. Only thing Trump is guilty of is being fooled by the media and always looking for a big profit! Let me get this straight, Trump is racist but someone that calls black men 'SUPER PREDATORS' and was a huge factor enacting laws that profiled them and locked them up is not? Like I said, typical black man, playing victim instead of removing the wool from your eyes.

Based on your line of thinking and youthful diatribe, I'm sure it's safe to assume that you are still in your late 20's or early 30's. You have not seen much of life in terms of race relations hence your limited ability to decipher hidden and subtle signs of racism.
This is a guy who actually ended up contesting for the Presidency simply because he found it hard to accept that a black man was the President. This is a man who questioned the birth place of the first black President of America, this is a man who's sole purpose of living is to eradicate all things that portrays 44th in good light. Son , you are a kid. I'm in Nigeria and it bed time. You will learn as you grow older, just hope it will not be too late.

Emilokoiyawon:
Go and sleep. You are embarrassing yourself.

Lol....Empty barrel.

NOHOLDSBAR:
When you get to the airport, for example Delta airline - they have a guy or lady that will check your passport and visa before you even approach the check in agent. These people are only doing a visual check for fake visa or passport. Once you are cleared that is when you get to check in where the agent only cares about if your ticket is real and your final destination. When you arrive at the boarding gate, they will collect your passport again and scan it. This manifest is transmitted to the US for security and other reasons. This is how the US govt will know that you are on a flight and can wait for you (if you are a wanted person) at the gate before the plane even lands. Once this information is scanned and transmitted, it is very possible that their visas were flagged as been cancelled hence the airline was notified to remove them from the flight. I have gone through this steps more than 100 times. I know the routine. I'll be on a flight to the US by this time tomorrow and be back by the weekend.

Your process is completely wrong.

The first step is before you're issued a boarding pass your passport and visa are scanned to check that both are valid, then you proceed to the check-in where your passport and ticket are checked.

Them you pass through immigration where your passport is checked against a no-fly list before you're cleared to leave the country.

You then pass through security to your boarding gate where they pat you and then check your boarding pass only when embarking. They've no business with your passport at this point because the check-in people and immigration have cleared you. The airline operators at the operation center send their manifest to the destination country.

When you arrive immigration decides whether you're eligible to enter the country.

You can travel a million times a day but that doesn't change the procedure.

abbey621:
Okay let me indulge your craze...lol.
2017: 168,980 Still way more than Obama. Read man, read! Your point is mute, If Trump was targetting Nigerians or Africans in general, shouldn't the numbers decrease to Obama era figures? I mean 150k is way more than 60, 80 or 90k.
To further disprove your ignorance, is Rwanda not part of Africa?
2017: 2,338
2018: 3,339
Surely Rwanda is also occupied by blacks . Guy go sleep![/s]

So according to you 2016 is still not Obama's year - this is what you call crazy? Guy for your mind 168 000 is bigger than 179 000? You can't even comprehend simple numbers, let alone know how to interpret stats.Your skull is packed full with sawdust. Please stop telling people you are a Nigerian. Nigerians in America are known for their intelligence. Please claim Togo or Sowetho. You are a big embarrassment.

NOHOLDSBAR:
Based on your line of thinking and youthful diatribe, I'm sure it's safe to assume that you are still in your 20's or late 30's. You have not seen much of life in terms of race relations hence your limited ability to decipher hidden and subtle signs of racism.
This is a guy who actually ended up contesting for the Presidency simply because he found it hard to accept that a black man was the President. This is a man who questioned the birth place of the first black President of America, this is a man who's sole purpose of living is to eradicate all things that portrays 44th in good light. Son , you are a kid. I'm in Nigeria and it bed time. You will learn as you grow older, just hope it will not be too late.

If you think someone in the 30s, still knows little about life then you know NOTHING! Your grievances is not against Trump but in America in general. If you think race relations was better under Bush or Obama then you're smoking some heavy stuff. Trump will say anything to get the win, he would claim to be a pastor if it would get him the votes of the evangelicals. He would claim to be a Muslim if Islam was the primary religion in America. He is a an entertainer and that is exactly why he won, a man that donated heavily to Democrats including Obama's first election, yet he can't stand black people? Do your research grandpa, I'm not here to convince you to like Trump but stop pretending as if he's the reason America is racist!

Neoteny:
Your process is completely wrong.

The first step is before you're issued a boarding pass your passport and visa are scanned to check that both are valid, then you proceed to the check-in where your passport and ticket are checked.

Them you pass through immigration where your passport is checked against a no-fly list before you're cleared to leave the country.

You then pass through security to your boarding gate where they pat you and then check your boarding pass only when embarking. They've no business with your passport at this point because the check-in people and immigration have cleared you. The airline operators at the operation center send their manifest to the destination country.

When you arrive immigration decides whether you're eligible to enter the country.

You can travel a million times a day but that doesn't change the procedure.

May be you are flying Air Morrocco or Ethiopian Airline - If you fly Delta that I fly all the time, these are the steps


First, stand in line, when it's your turn, they will check your passport and I assume visas also. They will ask your series of questions about how many bags, where you are going, who packed you bags etc. After that you will go for security bag check by customs and other Naija security agents. After that, you will proceed to check in at the counter. Once you are checked in, you will be given boarding pass and yellow form to fill for immigration. At the immigration they will request for the yellow form and stamp you passport (after checking your passport and visa)
At the boarding gate, Delta agent will ASK FOR YOUR PASSPORT, IT WILL BE SCANNED AND TRANSMITTED TO THE US.
Ater this you will go for path down and you carry one checked. after this you are free to board.
My point is that, it is very possible that they were flagged when their passport and visas where scanned and sent over to the US.

Kingpee2:
another thing is find out if their ticket was not gotten through a fraudulent means ...The airline must have found something on their ticket ..

Directive from the embassy can never be about tickets; the embassy must have discovered something falsified about their document. That is the reason we say, if you can not do your homework well, don't bother applying to go to those countries.

Emilokoiyawon:
So according to you 2016 is still not Obama's year - this is what you call crazy? Guy for your mind 168 000 is bigger than 179 000? You can't even comprehend simple numbers, let alone know how to interpret stats.Your skull is packed full with sawdust. Please stop telling people you are a Nigerian. Nigerians in America are known for their intelligence. Please claim Togo or Sowetho. You are a big embarrassment.

LMAO.....You bloody pauper, I feel sorry for you. Intelligent people argue based on facts yet Rwanda and other countries such as Denmark and even the U.K defeats your point. I can see you no longer have facts to support your argument hence we've reached the point of name calling and jest. Okay joker, have fun

abbey621:
If you think someone in the 30s, still knows litle about life then you know NOTHING! Your grievances is not against Trump but in America ingeneral. If you think race relations was better under Bush or Obama then you're smoking some heavy stuff. Trump will say anything to get the win, he would claim to be a pastor if it would get him the votes of the evangelicals. He would claim to be a Muslim if Islam was the primary religion in America. He is a an entertainer and that is exactly why he won, a man that donated heavily to Democrats including Obama's first election, yet he can't stand black people. Do your research grandpa, I'm not here to convince you to like Trump but stop pretending as if he's the reason America is racist!

Racism in America has always been there. It was just done more in a convert way unlike now that it's being done overtly.

The only reason Obama became president was not because racism was less but because of the senseless Iraq war that the Bush family and his vice lied to the Americans to agree with which as a result caused the country to go into serious recession and very high unemployment.

Obama lost both the House and Senate after two year of his presidency...go figure why that was.

Beautyaddy:
Racism in America has always been there. It was just done more in a convert way unlike now that it's being done overtly.

The only reason Obama became president was not because racism was less but because of the senseless Iraq war that the Bush family and his vice lied to the Americans to agree with which as a result caused the country to go into serious recession and very high unemployment.

Obama lost both the House and Senate after two year of his presidency...go figure why that was.

that's so disgusting because America is a migrant country. The only native Americans are d red Indians