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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dubemcapital1(m): 3:54pm On Apr 18, 2019
hagjay:
Good day everyone, I am a recent graduate just concluded service. I studied architecture . (Fut Minna), I'm looking for a job
I will be glad if anyone can recommend me to work with a Firm.
Current Location >>>Rivers state


Architecture is one of the discipline dealing with the principles of design and construction and ornamentation of fine buildings.

As a fresh graduate in architectural bailiwick I think you don't need a pay job but a coach and guide to perfection, naturally skillful and creative professionals would always attract good clients for quality service.

Get ready for challenges

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by meohio7777: 4:46pm On Apr 18, 2019
some guys visited my site that they are from Lagos state government threatening to put a stop to the ongoing work on my site in Ajah axis unless I pay them 200k. I am wondering if anyone have had such encounter. Attached are the papers they served my project manager.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hum2020: 7:20pm On Apr 18, 2019
meohio7777:
some guys visited my site that they are from Lagos state government threatening to put a stop to the ongoing work on my site in Ajah axis unless I pay them 200k. I am wondering if anyone have had such encounter. Attached are the papers they served my project manager.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hum2020: 7:27pm On Apr 18, 2019
Lazy people someone is developing your state and all you would do is to give order to stop work because you need 200k this is from the government of lagos state after the areasboy will also come fir their own i believe lagos state are the one. responsible for all that happening bewteen home owner and areasboy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ChiefSupplier55(m): 10:22pm On Apr 18, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ChiefSupplier55(m): 6:42am On Apr 19, 2019

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Royruky(m): 7:51am On Apr 19, 2019
ChiefSupplier55:
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Is the free delivery limited to only Lagos or it covers the whole of Nigeria?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by OALandAgents: 1:06pm On Apr 19, 2019
mufutau55:
Off-Topic Thread - To Discuss Anything and Everything that doesn't fit into an individual thread.
Let's discuss everything pertaining to Building Constructions, Real estate and some more.

Note: Please no products or services advertisements... there are plenty of other threads for that already. No buying and selling on this thread.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by OALandAgents: 1:09pm On Apr 19, 2019
hello all smiley
mufutau55:
Off-Topic Thread - To Discuss Anything and Everything that doesn't fit into an individual thread.
Let's discuss everything pertaining to Building Constructions, Real estate and some more.

Note: Please no products or services advertisements... there are plenty of other threads for that already. No buying and selling on this thread.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ChiefSupplier55(m): 4:29pm On Apr 19, 2019
Royruky:


Is the free delivery limited to only Lagos or it covers the whole of Nigeria?

Within Lagos and outside Lagos depending on the conditions

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 6:58pm On Apr 19, 2019
bixton:


It's still on the affirmative.
Hello bro, must it have a cross beam in the middle?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:18pm On Apr 19, 2019
bobkezel:

Hello bro, must it have a cross beam in the middle?


Are you referring to middle with regards to the decking slab or ?
If I may ask did you introduce columns at certain points during construction ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yaliyu963(m): 10:03pm On Apr 19, 2019
bobkezel:
Good morning experts in the house,
I have a pressing question
Can I do soak away and septic tank without columns/pillars?

Definitely. you can do that. you can hollow fill the blocks for strength taking a careful attention to the soakaway section
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yaliyu963(m): 10:25pm On Apr 19, 2019
Tammynator:
Gurus in the house, I have a question that has been bugging my mind for a while now.
Sirs/mas, if I'm going to do a DPC ( pour concrete on a DPM), why then should I bother myself with all the partitions during the excavation of the foundation? Why not just get the external diameter, and make some partitions and leave the rest? For instance, instead of digging toilet, ante room, parlour dining, kitchen, store, all the rooms, etc. Why not just a selected few out of all those and then, do the full partitioning after the DPC has been done. I hope I'm understood. Thanks.

I advised people should always engage the service of a professional. it might cost much but save much at the long run.
the need for professional is what most people have been asking here. in structural Engineering, Foundation is something you dont joke with.

on your question, while it is more safer and stable you include all the internal partitions, you can omit some. You can omit the non-load bearing partition during the foundation block work. But make sure the wall areas are restricted to 6m x 6m or else to have a well compacted foundation as well as to reduce settlement.

after compaction, you can lose the soil beneath the omitted partitions to reduce its stress on the DPC

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yaliyu963(m): 10:36pm On Apr 19, 2019
Jonecbosco:
What's the estimate of materials needed for
1. Lintel
2. Decking of the attached plan
It consist of 3flats on each floor ( one 3bedroom and parlor apartment, two 2bedroom apartment)

in the name of cutting cost, stop endangering lives of others. you dont quantify material cost for decking with architectural plan. you do that with the structural drawing, designed and detailed by a structural Engineer.

please, stop endangering lives.

if you dont have structural drawing for this, send the soft copy to jalyhconstrut@gmail.com so that my boys can design it for you free with bending schedule.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 10:45pm On Apr 19, 2019
bixton:



Are you referring to middle with regards to the decking slab or ?
If I may ask did you introduce columns at certain points during construction ?
I mean a beam being introduced in the middle of the block works. After which block works continues to deck level.
There was no columns.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 10:51pm On Apr 19, 2019
yaliyu963:


Definitely. you can do that. you can hollow fill the blocks for strength taking a careful attention to the soakaway section
What about pillar and beam in the middle. Is it a must?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Oduok(m): 2:36am On Apr 20, 2019
meohio7777:
some guys visited my site that they are from Lagos state government threatening to put a stop to the ongoing work on my site in Ajah axis unless I pay them 200k. I am wondering if anyone have had such encounter. Attached are the papers they served my project manager.
You would have spent less should you have engaged the services of a safety engineer for construction safety presence. I never knew there is this level of regulation for construction projects onshore - I'm happy to see this. It is only on offshore construction projects, that I represent contractors as safety rep, that I see this level of enforcement. Nigerians, it is high time we started doing the right thing, in line with global best practices. Construction safety has been a serious concern to the world safety body - ILO. The Nigerian situation a serious concern to me as well.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Oduok(m): 2:42am On Apr 20, 2019
yaliyu963:


in the name of cutting cost, stop endangering lives of others. you dont quantify material cost for decking with architectural plan. you do that with the structural drawing, designed and detailed by a structural Engineer.

please, stop endangering lives.

if you dont have structural drawing for this, send the soft copy to jalyhconstrut@gmail.com so that my boys can design it for you free with bending schedule.

Good one here sir. It baffles me why people would have money to build high rising buildings without considering having the structural detailing for the building. It is quite amazing. Let us as Engineers heighten the awareness of clients on this aspect.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:30am On Apr 20, 2019
bobkezel:

I mean a beam being introduced in the middle of the block works. After which block works continues to deck level.
There was no columns.

It is a matter of choice depending on circumstances around.
If you feel there's no need ensure you don't exceed 5 or 6 course on the first day before rounding up the next day.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 6:23am On Apr 20, 2019
bixton:


It is a matter of choice depending on circumstances around.
If you feel there's no need ensure you don't exceed 5 or 6 course on the first day before rounding up the next day.
But is there any implication to this?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:05am On Apr 20, 2019
bobkezel:

But is there any implication to this?

There are no implications whatsoever. It's just done as a safety precaution.
In the absence of not doing columns, I'd rather advice you do a weak concrete mixture to fill your block holes to that point. I want to believe your mason understands block bonds especially at the joints(edges/corners).
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 8:05am On Apr 20, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 8:35am On Apr 20, 2019
bixton:


It is a matter of choice depending on circumstances around.
If you feel there's no need ensure you don't exceed 5 or 6 course on the first day before rounding up the next day.

Omo, I beg to differ with most of your recommendations regarding this enquiry.

One: All soakaway/septic system should have columns - this is best engineering practice. When people come to you for advice, always recommend and encourage best practice. Soakaway without columns is cutting corners - Period.

For the poster to come here with that post, it may be true that someone on ground with knowledge of the soil condition may have recommended introduction of columns and beam which is a superior advice. But here you are I guess with no knowledge of the soil condition encouraging an inferior solution.

Two: After 5/6 courses, all round beam (chaining) should be introduced to prevent unintended collapse - best recommended civil engineering practice. After the next 5/6 courses, beam again and then deck.

Death from soakaway collapse in Nigeria is an unreported world. This is preventable death by spending just a fraction more to recommended best practice in health and safety.

Imagine Nigeria with poor quality blocks that will be constantly wet and soaked as a septic tank and then you construct such soakaway without columns and beam. - to me it's an accident waiting to happen especially during the raining season over time.

So building a safe soakaway is not a matter of choice like you posit. It's a conscious deliberate decision.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 9:05am On Apr 20, 2019
diordaves:


Omo, I beg to differ with most of your recommendations regarding this enquiry.

One: All soakaway/septic system should have columns - this is best engineering practice. When people come to you for advice, always recommend and encourage best practice. Soakaway without columns is cutting corners - Period.

For the poster to come here with that post, it may be true that someone on ground with knowledge of the soil condition may have recommended introduction of columns and beam which is a superior advice. But here you are I guess with no knowledge of the soil condition encouraging an inferior solution.

Two: After 5/6 courses, all round beam (chaining) should be introduced to prevent unintended collapse - best recommended civil engineering practice. After the next 5/6 courses, beam again and then deck.

Death from soakaway collapse in Nigeria is an unreported world. This is preventable death by spending just a fraction more to recommended best practice in health and safety.

Imagine Nigeria with poor quality blocks that will be constantly wet and soaked as a septic tank and then you construct such soakaway without columns and beam. - to me it's an accident waiting to happen especially during the raining season over time.

So building a safe soakaway is not a matter of choice like you posit. It's a conscious deliberate decision.
You are right to an extent, but let me chip in something.
My neighbour build his 1st soakaway with pillars/columns and cross beams but unfortunately it collapsed. He rebuilt it 2nd time without pillars/columns, he only introduced beams in the middle. This 2nd one without pillars is intact.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:15am On Apr 20, 2019
diordaves:


Omo, I beg to differ with most of your recommendations regarding this enquiry.

One: All soakaway/septic system should have columns - this is best engineering practice. When people come to you for advice, always recommend and encourage best practice. Soakaway without columns is cutting corners - Period.

For the poster to come here with that post, it may be true that someone on ground with knowledge of the soil condition may have recommended introduction of columns and beam which is a superior advice. But here you are I guess with no knowledge of the soil condition encouraging an inferior solution.

Two: After 5/6 courses, all round beam (chaining) should be introduced to prevent unintended collapse - best recommended civil engineering practice. After the next 5/6 courses, beam again and then deck.

Death from soakaway collapse in Nigeria is an unreported world. This is preventable death by spending just a fraction more to recommended best practice in health and safety.

Imagine Nigeria with poor quality blocks that will be constantly wet and soaked as a septic tank and then you construct such soakaway without columns and beam. - to me it's an accident waiting to happen especially during the raining season over time.

So building a safe soakaway is not a matter of choice like you posit. It's a conscious deliberate decision.

Differed opinions is allowed.
Engineering construction is applied sciences from knowledge gotten over a period on the field.
Yes, its advisable one stick to best engineering practices.
But what if a client does not have the resources to adhere to such or insist his/her way?
Will you abandon the job or act as an Engineer and proffer alternative solutions to get the job accomplished?

You need to have field experience to be able to build. Not all clients understands engineering best practice.
Be an Engineer and apply the knowledge.

Let me cut a story short....
A recent soakaway/septic tank I did for a client.....
After explaining what I intend to do, I requested for 9" hollow blocks, 16mm/12mm rods, etc....
Client and site manager went and purchased 5" solid blocks thinking it was 6"solid. I requested to see who supplied the blocks. He came and was on same side with the client. We argued over it, I got angry, my artisans got angry too.
We were already on site so we got the job done.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bobkezel(m): 9:52am On Apr 20, 2019
bixton:


There are no implications whatsoever. It's just done as a safety precaution.
In the absence of not doing columns, I'd rather advice you do a weak concrete mixture to fill your block holes to that point. I want to believe your mason understands block bonds especially at the joints(edges/corners).
The blocks are not hollow blocks, they are 6" blocks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 10:46am On Apr 20, 2019
bobkezel:

You are right to an extent, but let me chip in something.
My neighbour build his 1st soakaway with pillars/columns and cross beams but unfortunately it collapsed. He rebuilt it 2nd time without pillars/columns, he only introduced beams in the middle. This 2nd one without pillars is intact.

From your post, I can say I don't have the full information, but I can say that the collapse is despite the columns and not as a result of the columns. Columns and beams don't collapse structures.

It may be the soakaway design is not suitable for the soil condition or the design was poorly executed in some if not all aspect of the design. The soil may be more challenging for this type of traditional design.

Columns and beams when properly introduced with the right span make a safe structure.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by happney65: 12:03pm On Apr 20, 2019
Adedward:
[quote gud mornin here, happy easter, its me A AND S ALUMINIUM VENTURES, as we are celebrating easter , and we should plan for how to get windows done, with us here,

Bros,you did this window without telling the owner to plaster because what am seeing here una plaster am o..This is just fixing if am right and it can be easily removed by thieves..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 2:10pm On Apr 20, 2019
[quote author=happney65 post=77701430][/quote]sir or ma, the plastering is going on, within the rooms after rooms they will plaster outside too, and even we are installed our windows with cements shocking, if they are not ready for plaster, thanks

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