₦airaland Forum

STRENGTHesq:
Thats why Biafrans are seeking independence
And certainly not on a platter will we get it
It will be hard fought and treasured

Wow

I don't even know what to say to this

Well, may we all get what what we wish for

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Amuocha:
She contributed to the terrible mess in Nigeria's political history.

Nonsense.

How ? mumu

Zik led the delegation. He was the most influential person of his era.

He was the one that negotiated with the various ethnic nations to ensure that Britain did not burn them all to the ground in useless defiance.

How can you now claim that fela's mother led them to London?
It's ridiculous.

Zik took her along.

Ring my phone when foolish PDP Igbo supporters stop insulting Awo, that aside Zik was without any legacy. He was a coward, unintelligent, bigoted n too fooolish to be a leader. He could not even understand the political landscape b4 his very nose. Where he got the pan africanism toga from was obviously a fraud no wonder no one bought into that. He was nothing but a self declared signo slave to the north, Zik need to be reawaken to be beheaded for the grave misjudgment he perpetuated.

Zionista:
No one in your lineage(living or dead) has gotten close to Zik'a Legacies.

jrusky:
Haha oginni biko that is too harsh and rude. Every tribe celebrate their hero but see how you rubbished Zik this is too embarrassing.

DerideGull:
Never knew a person can be this dumb.

chiedu7:
I guess we never learn our lesson.

No be Tinubu dey do lackey for Buhari?

Many southerners have been foolish



The way 9ja moved 4wd was when the igbos & Yorubas worked together.

Now dem don use psychology to make sure we don't work together.

So it's Afonja vs Biafra.

Cone Head vs Igbo


Brown Roof vs developer


Skull Miner vs Baby Factory.

And una say southerners get sense?

MetaPhysical:
Women in Nigeria were not allowed to vote or occupy clerical positions in administrative offices in colonial Nigeria. This woman gave liberty and pioneered changes that gave right to women to vote and to have equal right to positions previously considered male gender specific.

May her soul rest in peace.


This picture says a lot. Yorubas were the trailblazers. While North and East were still learning how government worked, Yorubas were already representing government back then.

Bull shitt.
Zik was leader of the NCNC that was leading the fight for democracy.
He was an igbo man and didn't need to tag along with more igbos.

He took Yoruba obas along as a show of solidarity and a national outlook.

That is why you think Yoruba led anything. Zik made it so.

MetaPhysical:
You dont yet understand Yoruba.

There is a key in the human spirit, we use it to unlock self-improvement. By nature the environment makes us indolent and spoils us, makes us comfortable to remain attached to the material world...a beastly state of existence! Yorubas are never accepting this attachment and so we keep probing until we find the key to unlock self-improvement and reveal the inner divinity. Its very important for you to understand that this key opens the conscience to know, innately, the separation between human and beast. Yoruba continues to evolve along the continuum of human civilization. Those who hate Yoruba are on the opposite side of this awareness, they remain attached to the low, beast nature. They are content with the crude acts and unrefined nature, self-reflection means nothing.

Yoruba will think ahead and test the outcome in his mind before carrying out his thoughts. ....but thats Yoruba, a civilized and divine being. The opposite is where you will find others.

You are perfectly right!

OyiboOyibo:
THE BETRAYED AND THE BETRAYER: CASE OF DR. NNAMDI AZIKIWE AND CHIEF OBAFEMI AWOLOWO, PUTTING EVENTS IN PROPER PERSPECTIVE

The Nigeria Youth Movement (NYM) to which Azikiwe joined in 1937 upon his return to Nigeria was founded on the precepts of "gradualism" and "accomodationism." Azikiwe wanted to move it to a more engaged politics of "opposition nationalism" based on his own exposure and orientation. There was a clash of ideas and methods. The grandees of the NYM, whose engagement with the colonial authorities was all about the opening of elite spaces and opportunities for Africans thought that Azikiwe's ideas, methods and orientation was "too dangerous" and was going to rock their apple stands. This upstart from America of all places did not conform to the call of the older generation with their "ginkana parties" and "egbon nationalism" to navigate elite interests gradually that would see a few over the years occupy "European positions."

Azikiwe wanted a transfer, not just of positions, but of power to Africans. He broke ideologically with the NYM, resurrected the worsted "lion of Lagos," Herbert Macaulay, and with his control of the first powerful network of indigenous newspapers awakened a new generation of Africans to the possibility of their sovereignty. His appeal was not to the "Lagos elite" of the established Saro merchant class and professionals with its deeply Yoruba roots in Lagos, but to a growing middle class of young people - clerks, traders, artisans, and those who never had a voice until Azikiwe arrived - the "youth of Africa." Many of these happened to be the new urban Igbo, and there was in equal number, the new young, urban youth from all over Nigeria who flocked around Azikiwe, and essentially "retired" the old NYM grandees from relevance. In 1947, the movement which Azikiwe had spearheaded was at that vital turning point of creating a truly "nationalist" movement. It was also in this period, following the fierce debates about the coverage of the Atlantic treaty which Azikiwe and his followers had led, which compelled the United Nations (UN) to adopt the charter of human rights, and which gave grounds for decolonization, that the British began to seriously discuss what they called the "Zik problem."

In his notes to William Blackburne, Harold Cooper, the M16 man in Lagos, working under the cover as the Director of Public Relations in the newly created Public Relations Office set out in a memo the basic plan of action to deal with this "problem of Zik." He basically said that it would be futile at that stage in 1947, given the momentum Azikiwe had generated in nationalist struggle to continue to use suppression or even physical elimination, as it would not only anger and embolden the young nationalists who had flocked around Zik, but might give greater momentum to Azikiwe. He recommended a strategic targeting and recruitment of what he called the "malleable margin" of the young nationalists and other "progressives" and use them to counter Azikiwe's work and influence. That is how that lingo had survived - the difference between the "nationalists" and the "progressives." And we know those who call themselves "progressives." But at that time, it was a code word for those whom the British found amenable for a partnership - that "malleable margin" who were then promised power in postcolonial Nigeria under British guidance.

They began to be called "progressives" and "moderates" while Azikiwe and the nationalists were often described as "radical" and "extremist" in the British colonial press and official communications. It was in this period that Awolowo arrived: suddenly rich, powerful, and influential. From the bankrupted produce trader and newspaper reporter, and indigent law student in London, Awo came home suddenly, a successful newspaper publisher with a thriving law firm in Ibadan, and with money to organize politically in 1947. Where did it all come from? That's a question for another day.

However, what is relevant here is that (a) in 1947, the British colonial government helped to fund and organize what became the Action Group (AG) and the Northern Peoples Congress (NPC). In fact, they tried to broker a partnership between them, which eventually floundered during negotiations over the question of who would lead the alliance. As a matter of fact, one of the key highpoints of that partnership was the use of Bode Thomas as the lawyer to free Ahmadu Rabah (later Ahmadu Bello) from the charges of stealing brought against him by the Sokoto Native Authority in 1947;
(b) it was precisely in this moment that the British helped to circulate the ideas of an unwholesome Nigeria with its regionalist character rather than a nationalist Nigeria with a common mission. Political statements from the likes of Awolowo and Bello helped to solidify this idea of a Nigeria of "differences" who must relate to each other on those differences, while Azikiwe was writing and shouting against the British ploy, with their local agents to "Pakistanize" Nigeria - in reference to what had happened in that period with India's partition with which the British had threatened the nationalists, and
(c) the nationalist movement was strategically undermined, broken, and penetrated in that moment. All attempts to push Zik to declare an armed struggle which would have provided the British the final excuse to destroy the leadership of the nationalist movement failed, and it continued towards home rule - including the use of the Forster-Sutton commission. As a matter of fact in one of the most revealing letters ever written by Awolowo to his British masters over the "problem of Zik" in 1957 towards the London conferences, Awolowo stated clearly that the British should no longer worry about Zik. "we damaged him seriously with the inquiry" referring to the Forster-Sutton commission.

The British organized the Ibadan "carpet-crossing" fiasco of 1951 in its bid to prevent Zik from leading a government, and providing the nationalists a ground from which to determine the outcomes of the transition towards decolonization: the strategic capacity was aided by Awo's minder, Mr. Foot, who was almost assassinated by one of Azikiwe's followers, a clerk in the Secretariat, who was arrested and sent to the Yaba asylum. But two things later happened: Azikiwe as leader of opposition in the parliament forced Awolowo to nationalize the Western Nigerian civil service, a situation which damaged Awo's standing with his British friends. A brewing party in-fight with the old guard that wanted to formalize the earlier alliance with the NPC increasingly grew with Awo still unwilling to "concede" leadership the "North." It all came to a head at the AG party conference in Jos in 1962. But this was all down the line. As it turned out, by 1957 Azikiwe and the nationalists had been thoroughly outmaneuvered by the British, both at the London conferences and at home, and the roles played by Awolowo and Bello in this regard, are all too clear. But a weakened Zik was further undermined with the British-instigated intra-party crisis that rocked the nationalist party in 1958, leading to the 1959 election.
Azikiwe only managed to resolve that crisis by the force of his personality and kept the nationalist party together to go into the 1959 elections. Awolowo on the other hand, running on full steam on the banner of a regional party, had been promised premiership of Nigeria if he could stop Zik in the South. The elections came. Zik's party won the South convincingly. But the Nationalist party allies, Northern Elements Progressive Union (NEPU), suffered voter suppression; imprisonment of its candidates in the elections, and the result was that in places where NEPU and the Nationalist alliance should have won in the North, the NPC was declared unopposed and returned. At the end of the counts, although the Nationalist party secured the plurality of votes nationwide - that is, although Azikiwe and the nationalist party remained the most popular party north and South - they could not lead the government of Nigeria because of the ways that the British had helped to gerrymander the votes from 1956 to that 1959 election.
Awolowo was not a target of the British. He was in the large scheme of that struggle of no particular threat to the British. He was what they called a "moderate" and a "progressive." The British organized, funded, and supported the AG! As was clear in the nature of Azikiwe's file in the British archives even today, Zik was the central issue in the African Liberation movement in the British colonial imagination, and all levers were pulled to stop him. At the end of the 1959 election, Awolowo and his faction of the AG party offered to work with Zik, while another faction wanted to work with the NPC. The Eastern Committee of the NCNC opted to work with Awolowo and form a government. The Western committee of the party however vowed to leave the NCNC if the party chose to work with Awo. Azikiwe listened carefully, and he made a choice, and he was clear about it on the following principles:
(a) as a responsible party leader, he had to listen to his party, and navigate carefully particularly with a party that had just come out of a national crisis,
(b) as the leader of the nationalist movement, it would be irresponsible to isolate the North by working with Awolowo and establishing what would essentially be a government of the Southern parties,
(c) it would be irresponsible given the fragility of Nigeria to allow an essentially regional party like the NPC to go it alone in forming a government of a nation in rapid political transition. It would need the nationalist party to provide the backbone required to establish a postcolonial government in the general interest,
(d) It was difficult to trust Awolowo and his men, given past experiences, and
(e) tomorrow was another day. The nationalists would bid their time and take over government without the interference of the British through the democratic process. All that calculation was based on a very rational premise. Meanwhile, in a bid to reposition himself to the new political reality and circumvent the crisis brewing inside his own party with the old guard essentially, and having become embittered with what Azikiwe always knew as "British chicanery," Awolowo opposed the proposed security partnership with Britain, and became a target from then on, particularly as he began to build alliances with Nkrumah by 1960/61.
Awolowo was thus smashed with the same methods that the British used to smash the man they called "uppity Zik." But this was because by 1962, Awolowo began to work with the so-called "young turks" of his party - S.G. Ikoku, Akpata, Bola Ige, and so on to create a national political opposition. It should be clear that when he was confronted with his own party crisis, Awo lacked the maturity, capacity, and political capital and experience to steer his party aright, unlike Zik, who showed formidable leadership and control when his party spinned into a national crisis in 1958, and Awo and his party were celebrating how "undisciplined" and "disorganized" the NCNC was.

It is important to keep Nigeria's nationalist history in perspective beyond all the new fangled mythologizing that now take place in an attempt to sanitize Nigeria's national narrative.

This is trashy article to paint Awolowo in a bad light and make Zik decisions look good.

sarrki:
The year 1947 when Olufunmilayo Kuti (Fela Mama) led an entourage of Yoruba Kings, Royals and Chiefs plus Nnamdi Azikwe to London on a major quest for independence from British colonial rule. Fela was right when he said "She is the only mother of Nigeria.

Please, can you give the link to the original video? One of the men looks like my Grandfather but I would like to confirm it first.

Elemosho478:
What is this one saying?
A Shameless Igbo tribe that were Enslaved by Ijaw and Benin, sodomized and Massacred by Hausa/Fulani in the north when igbo decided to fight it only ended in Hausa/Fulani raping your women and killed 3 million OSU

You are still a shameless Liar trying hard to save Face like a typical Igbo it is in the gene of Traitors like Igbo tribe, Dahomey never beheaded a Yoruba King and Fulani never took over Kwara but Ilorin a single town and just an inch of Yoruba Lands which was part of a great battle and Yoruba still managed to defeated the Fulani during Jihad war. Tell me what your forefathers ever conquered? Coward!

My forefathers were conquerors while your forefathers hid inside the Jungle, dwelled on trees, shit on themselves and ate themselves because they were Cannibals, today a single Oyo state is bigger than Entire South East to prove the adventurous spirit of my forefathers, igbo is the biggest losers in History, shameless cowards and traitors tribe!

Oh, you believed they even took an inch of your town? Aren't you ashamed of yourself? No inch of Igboland was stolen by the Fulani. On the contrary, Ijaw was in Eastern Region, and together, we fought Nigeria then. we overan Benin and its Military Governor, Ejoor, ran away for safety; i mean the military governor of the defunct Mid-West. Go and ask Britain. Igbos fought Yorubas, Hausas, Fulanis, Middle Belt and MidWestern Region in that Biafra war and still manufactured Ogbunigwe (bomb) that killed a large chunk of your people then; Igbos became the 1st black people to refine crude oil all in that war, while Nigeria then was a dumping ground of White man's arms and ammunition. What a brave tribe we are!

If your forefathers were conquerors, where were they when Fulanis conquered and took over Ilorin from you and by extension Kwara, cos as of today, Kwara is in North Central, not in West? Where were they when Fulanis moved inward and foisted Islam on your people. No section of Igbo was islamized. Few Igbo people who are Muslims today got converted in the North.

Elemosho478:
You still keep blaming others when you really started every thing that is wrong with Nigeria

Awolowo should have wipe you off the face of Earth, you are like a Curse and Liability on Nigeria. You are still a shameless Liar !

The first betrayal in Nigeria Igbo Started it
The first Coup in Nigeria Igbo carried it out
The Regional Government in Nigeria was terminated by the same Igbo
The secession Clause in Nigeria constitutions was prevented by Igbo

Was all these really Coincidences?

Awolowo should have do us all a favour in Africa and wipe off your tribe of Traitors, cowards and losers, despite the fact that you are the key tribe in Nigeria's problems you still have the gut to blame others except yourselves like you are all saints. Igbo the tribe of Traitors,losers, Slaves and Cowards it is not today you began ass licking the North

why not you lead your coward tribe and start wiping the great Igbos out,

johnie:
This was the NCNC delegation led by Azikiwe (Igbo) that visited London to protest the Richards Constitution of 1945, the two men, Prince Adeleke Adedoyin (Ijebu Yoruba) and Dr Abu Bakar Ibiyinka Olorun-Nimbe (Ilorin Yoruba), were members of the delegation. Others were Malam Bukar Dipcharima (Kanuri), Chief Nyong Essien (Ibibio), P M Kale (Bakweri Cameroonian), and Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti (Yoruba).


They were also relatively young then

She was 47

Zik was 43

Prince Obafemi Adedoyin was 35


Abubakar Olorun-Nimbe  was 39

Nyong Essien, probably the oldest, was 55

Thanks for putting things straight.The OP posted the woman's personal pictures saying she was the one that led d delegation to UK whereas it was a party delegation led by the party leader.Imagine hw ppl distort history.We need to be careful of some kind of ppl.

reality1010:
Thanks for putting things straight.The OP posted the woman's personal pictures saying she was the one that led d delegation to UK whereas it was a party delegation led by the party leader.Imagine hw ppl distort history.We need to be careful of some kind of ppl.

We should always seek reality as your monikers says.

I urge you to read my other posts on this thread.

There is a difference between facts and truth.

The video/picture is a fact of history but what is the truth behind it?

If many knew the truth, they would not engage in tribal chauvinism or bashing.

Mandeyy:
Oh, you believed they even took an inch of your town? Aren't you ashamed of yourself? No inch of Igboland was stolen by the Fulani. On the contrary, Ijaw was in Eastern Region, and together, we fought Nigeria then. we overan Benin and its Military Governor, Ejoor, ran away for safety; i mean the military governor of the defunct Mid-West. Go and ask Britain. Igbos fought Yorubas, Hausas, Fulanis, Middle Belt and MidWestern Region in that Biafra war and still manufactured Ogbunigwe (bomb) that killed a large chunk of your people then; Igbos became the 1st black people to refine crude oil all in that war, while Nigeria then was a dumping ground of White man's arms and ammunition. What a brave tribe we are!

If your forefathers were conquerors, where were they when Fulanis conquered and took over Ilorin from you and by extension Kwara, cos as of today, Kwara is in North Central, not in West? Where were they when Fulanis moved inward and foisted Islam on your people. No section of Igbo was islamized. Few Igbo people who are Muslims today got converted in the North.

Are you trying to brag to me about your Biggest coward feats in History? where 3 million of your people were killed and your hero ran away in female Dress and left his people to died ?
Do you still realized that you are the Conquered people of Nigeria?


You still have the gut to brag about Lands when your forefathers were hiding inside the jungle, eating themselves, living on trees and shlting on themselves, all happy and Gay no confrontation with greater forces you were all hiding like cowards that you are .

If the whole Hausa kingdoms could fall to Fulani and Yoruba were able to repelled Fulani and defeated them when they fought the same battle common sense should tell you that we are not mate in any ramifications. In life you win some and lose some, it is impossible to win all no matter how great you are but Yoruba definitely won more than they lost, we were land grabbers in Kwara in the first place but your forefathers were losers through out their history!

Kwara being in North Central is just a geographical location but I understand that you are dumb, Yoruba are already into Islam before the Fulani came

Emary:
Please, can you give the link to the original video? One of the men looks like my Grandfather but I would like to confirm it first.

The men in the delegation were Nnamdi Azikiwe, Prince Adeleke Adedoyin, Dr Abu Bakar Ibiyinka Olorun-Nimbe, Malam Bukar Dipcharima, Chief Nyong Essien and P M Kale.

Which one is your grandfather?

johnie:
Why is it that no one in the delegation was obese?

Could it be the diet they lived on then?

A similar delegation today would likely comprise of obese people.

194? vs 201?

johnie:
This was the NCNC delegation led by Azikiwe (Igbo) that visited London to protest the Richards Constitution of 1945, the two men, Prince Adeleke Adedoyin (Ijebu Yoruba) and Dr Abu Bakar Ibiyinka Olorun-Nimbe (Ilorin Yoruba), were members of the delegation. Others were Malam Bukar Dipcharima (Kanuri), Chief Nyong Essien (Ibibio), P M Kale (Bakweri Cameroonian), and Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti (Yoruba).


They were also relatively young then

She was 47

Zik was 43

Prince Obafemi Adedoyin was 35


Abubakar Olorun-Nimbe  was 39

Nyong Essien, probably the oldest, was 55

Just when you think sarrki has finally received some sense, he will come out more strongly with a whole new level of imbecility. Just imagine how he distorts history to make a notable respected woman look bad by arrogating to her duties she never performed.

You people should stop laying on this forum. In what capacity did she do that? She was not educated, not a politician - just the wife of a catechist and market women leader who was conscripted to give the entourage a balanced look.
From being the first woman ever to drive a car (whose car? Even Bishops did not own cars then) I see her being pushed to level of national leader.
This is simply after effects of blues from the love of Fela's music, and I admit he played good music in his lifetime.

Sirjamo:
Zik was a great man who believed in strategic alliance and deployment of intellect to pursue a course and achieve a goal. Ojukwu and Kanu would have gone to such a place with sub - machine guns and RPGs.

Well going without arms to an occasion that called for arms would just be s t e w p i d!
You must be one of those SCULLERS from the waste.

sarrki:
Nop
The 1966 coup messed up the whole thing

Mess was more by the counter coup and it's aftermath.

sparog:
We were too young for independence then, Nigeria would have been better if independence had been delayed till much later when the Brits had fully developed the country. We got our independence without war on a platter of gold and we ran the beautiful country that was gifted to us to the ground.


What a shame

You amaze me, so the white man gifted Nigeria to us.

Mbediogu:
Mess was more by the counter coup and it's aftermath.

Definitely there must be a response

Sterope:
What do you mean by smiling to the bank? What had your own senator done so far?

It is sad this woman suffered and goes she say did.

Am not in your league of Muppets

DerideGull:
Never knew a person can be this dumb.

He is not dumb

Zik remains an idiotic bastard to all Igbo people
He's stupidity and shortsightedness caused and still causes pain

Amuocha:
She contributed to the terrible mess in Nigeria's political history.

Nonsense.

How if you could enlighten us please?

Adefemiaderoju1:
How if you could enlighten us please?

Abeg help ask him ooo

Yoruba leads, other tribes follow lol

searchlight:
misfortunes? I heard that they are better than your race

Better than my tribe?... U must be high on something cheap

johnie:
Why is it that no one in the delegation was obese?

Could it be the diet they lived on then?

A similar delegation today would likely comprise of obese people.

Spot on!..lol!

fr3do:
You amaze me, so the white man gifted Nigeria to us.

Yes bro

Try to read about how other countries got their independence and you'll see.

sparog:
Yes bro

Try to read about how other countries got their independence and you'll see.

fr3do, read about the Mau Mau.