₦airaland Forum

Humility017:
manu garba is involve in this.
he should better talk to these lads... everyone wanna go to europe
unknow to them..it does not end there. nancho got into limelights via his assists
and goals likewise Chuks and Nwakali.... you don't have to be selfish to get noticed.

Manu reason for not playing that Chelsea kid is dicey...

Exactly! There are some attributes scouts want to see. It's not all about goal. But this team came to just market themselves and are letting us down.

mummyson26:
Naija no3 next
He miss
Guinea won

at least we have achieved the mission of qualifying for the world cup... the attack
line of this team should be disbanded and new fresh players draft in.

Manu Garba is not doing well with this....
we expect something better

No African team has ever beaten Nigeria OUTSIDE AFRICA IN A FIFA ORGANIZED COMPETITION....but in Africa we can lose...no problem

mummyson26:
Naija no3 next
He miss
Guinea won

Mtchewww! Nonsense. The same number 3 spoil the game for us. He was suppose to pass the ball to Ubani but wasted time and gave a bad pass.

forgiveness:
Exactly! There some attributes scouts wants to see. It's not all about goal. But this team came to just market themselves and are letting us down.

to be honest with you... i am even happy that they lost this match....
Manu Garba and his crew can now go back to the drawing board...
they need to make this lads watch every match and show them their mistakes and what they
need do next time....
draft in fresh players who are good offensively..
have them camped with these players..and then pick the best (least selfish amongst them)
Lateef should be called back in the fold...the dude decision making is better than so many of these players who made the team

Our last penalty taker prayed before taking his kick and lost[ballooned the ball]
The last penalty taker for Guinea did not pray and scored[he picked his spot]

Danielnino00:
Its not cowardice.... its more like common sense and a show of respect to the opponents... when u are heading into a fight,you don't brag about winning....


You want Rohr to proclaim to the media that the super eagles are going to conquer Africa just like that?/Sorry mate,it doesn't work like that... Good coaches don't do that...
And like oga Basco said,what the coach says to the media is different from what he tell his players...

Wait for the tournament to start then we will see wassup....

i will take your word... but i nor trust that man when it comes to fear

forgiveness:
Mtchewww! Nonsense. The same number 3 spoil the game for us. He was suppose to pass the ball to Ubani but wasted time and gave a bad pass.

Ubani himself need to improve on his final ball
D guy can drible hen but his final ball is a let down

This our U17 keeper na tozo but this Guinea U17 players looks too big and old for normal 17 year old

gamaliel9:
Our last penalty taker prayed before taking his kick and lost[ballooned the ball]
The last penalty taker for Guinea did not pray and scored[he picked his spot]

and what are you insinuating?

Humility017:
and what are you insinuating?

Both work and prayer are important. They go hand in hand

DrLikita12:
Both work and prayer are important. They go hand in hand

yeah sure... i am just not happy.
both Manu Garba and the under 20 coach really have so much work to do...
sentiments is killing nigeria coaches fast... even though the under 20 coach
everyone knows is a lazy coach but Manu is never lazy... our cadet team coaches should never allow the
temptation of getting cuts from players signing stop them from doing the right things when it matter most
they should be ambitious... i have a dream that one day a nigerian will coach a club in europe top 8 leagues

DrLikita12:
Both work and prayer are important. They go hand in hand

thanks for the link you shared.it was helpful....

DrLikita12:
Let them come home and learn how to pass
I hope they improve before the world cup starts.

They let their good performances get to their heads. They also need to be more reactive in situations because their actions seem telegraphed to me. They need to take what the defenders give them instead of going in with a set mindset. Basically they need to know when to shoot and when to pass. Altogether they are a very quality side through and through.

DrLikita12:
Both work and prayer are important. They go hand in hand

that comment was not necessarily, everybody has his or her own beliefs... Praying does not stop the player from picking his spot... An unnecessary comment I say again...

Humility017:
yeah sure... i am just not happy.
both Manu Garba and the under 20 coach really have so much work to do...
sentiments is killing nigeria coaches fast... even though the under 20 coach
everyone knows is a lazy coach but Manu is never lazy... our cadet team coaches should never allow the
temptation of getting cuts from players signing stop them from doing the right things when it matter most
they should be ambitious... i have a dream that one day a nigerian will coach a club in europe top 8 leagues

It's either Manu is not talking to them or they are not listening. Both are bad situations. Hopefully they can work on that before the world cup starts.
On your second point...that's something I really want to see as well. I think our explayers should be taking some of the required classes for the various coaching programs. The NFF can help. They can also look for promising youth interested in coaching and at least provide the information needed for some of these courses.

Dannyxy:
that comment was not necessarily, everybody has his or her own beliefs... Praying does not stop the player from picking his spot... An unnecessary comment I say again...

Yes I know.
Yet this same player was called out here for selfishness or wasting time. Perhaps he should work as hard as he prays.

See someone else's opinion below

Humility017:
to be honest with you... i am even happy that they lost this match....
Manu Garba and his crew can now go back to the drawing board...
they need to make this lads watch every match and show them their mistakes and what they
need do next time....
draft in fresh players who are good offensively..
have them camped with these players..and then pick the best (least selfish amongst them)
Lateef should be called back in the fold...the dude decision making is better than so many of these players who made the team

Well, it's good he sees the mistakes now and makes amend else we get disgraced at the world cup due to selfish individualist players.

He should also show them the 2013 set that played for each other, and even Amunike team that was not selfish.

Garba should play Adrian and that goalkeeper and let us examine them with our own eyes.

I agree with that we should reinforce the team. Lateef and that Emmanuel Ekong of Empoli should be called to the camp.

This team is full of self glory seeking players.

Stats for the game

Even though I would have loved us to win the CAF U17, personally I am not much pained we lost out in the semis against an obviously bigger and highly physical Guinean side.

Guinea bullied us all through the game but i will give our boys kudos for fighting back and Defending very well.

We seem to have a bunch of talented Players that are yet to understand each other. Yes we scored 5 against Tanzania but it has become obvious that Tanzania came to the tournament without a defense.

Manu has a lot to do with this team especially with the attack. They are not playing for each other at all. I see are a bunch of players eager to impress scouts or whoever. He also still needs to go back and scout for more players. After all 5 players failed the MRI and so they will need to be replaced in the squad.

The team has done the most important thing by qualifying. Recall Amuneke's 2005 U17 finished 4th at the CAF U17, losing 3-1 to Guinea in that 3rd place game. Yet they went ahead to win at the World stage. I so much believe in these 2019 Eaglets. They are individually gifted and have what it takes to follow in the foot steps of their predecessors in winning the U17 WC.

Nigeria as a nation is not doing badly in our age grade competitions this year. Our U20 and U17 are playing in the WC and our U23 are waiting for the next victims

Plenty of football to watch this year o.

TheGoodJoe:
With a more refined selection and better training with an objective of efficient football, we can raise a top team from these guys.

Either way, we are far from ready.

We also need an intense competition for Ubani. He seems the only one with the responsibility to fire at will.

The boys are talented individually. Manu just needs to take them back into that bakery and by the time the U17 WC starts we want to see a well co-ordinated team firing from all cylinders.

charlesemeka85:
This our U17 keeper na tozo but this Guinea U17 players looks too big and old for normal 17 year old

I have raised this issue here in times past. Nigeria seems to always produce the smallest teams at the U17 WC. Why do our players easily fail the MRI? This MRI has virtually screened out all the 17yrs olds in the team leaving behind mostly 15 and 16 yrs olds. Yet when u see players from places like Mali, Cameroon CIV, Guinea and Senegal they will appear so big and u keep wondering how they pass the MRI.

Now this issue of wrist bone fussion, does type of diet affect it? Or are Nigerians naturally stunded people? Dr Michael, DrLikita12 and Dr TheSuperNerd (wherever u are) please we need some explanations here.

Icon4s:
I have raised this issue here in times past. Nigeria seems to always produce the smallest teams at the U17 WC. Why do our players easily fail the MRI? This MRI has virtually screened out all the 17yrs olds in the team leaving behind mostly 15 and 16 yrs olds. Yet when u see players from places like Mali, Cameroon CIV, Guinea and Senegal they will appear so big and u keep wondering how they pass the MRI.

Now this issue of wrist bone fussion, does type of diet affect it? Or are Nigerians naturally stunded people? Dr Michael, DrLikita12 and Dr TheSuperNerd (wherever u are) please we need some explanations here.

Diet definitely influences MRI tests. Players who had poor diets growing up would develop slower than those who fed relatively well growing up.

tbaba1234:
Diet definitely influences MRI tests. Players who had poor diets growing up would develop slower than those who fed relatively well growing up.

Can diet affect extent of bone fusion. That is bone fusion progressing faster for Nigerian kids than those of their West African neighbors?

Besides, I would not want to believe that an average Malian , Guinean or Burkinabe kid enjoys better diet than Nigerian kids.

Icon4s:
I have raised this issue here in times past. Nigeria seems to always produce the smallest teams at the U17 WC. Why do our players easily fail the MRI? This MRI has virtually screened out all the 17yrs olds in the team leaving behind mostly 15 and 16 yrs olds. Yet when u see players from places like Mali, Cameroon CIV, Guinea and Senegal they will appear so big and u keep wondering how they pass the MRI.

Now this issue of wrist bone fussion, does type of diet affect it? Or are Nigerians naturally stunded people? Dr Michael, DrLikita12 and Dr TheSuperNerd (wherever u are) please we need some explanations here.

I am a student so I probably have more questions than answers but I know three things (that we probably all know):
One is that stunting affects the height a child will eventually grow to and nutrition is a major factor in stunted growth. We have a higher percentage of stunted children in Nigeria than in Guinea and Senegal so it could be that children in Nigeria are less likely to develop to their full height than children in these other countries. If that is the case, then you can expect that at the U17 level our boys will be shorter than their counterparts from these countries.
This link shows the percentage of stunted children (U5) in different countries; you can take a look if you are interested (the most recent data was obtained in 2016): https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.STA.STNT.ZS?locations=GN-NG-AT-IE-SN-CM-CA.
I don't know when the data in this link was obtained but the trend is similar: https://www.unicef.org/pon00/leaguetos1.htm

Secondly, MRI is a good tool to prevent age cheating but it is not perfect. It varies from person to person and it is not 100% accurate (I can't say that our boys keep getting screened out while Cameroonian boys don't, that's just silly) But it's important to remember that once in a while an overaged kid will "pass" the MRI scan and a boy who is just shy of 16 may even fail it. Do diet and environment affect when our wrist bones fuse? Maybe, but I have no sources. This article here says that in an MRI scan of a group of Ghanaian boys there was little correlation between their actual ages and the "MRI determined" ages, but the second article says that there was "moderate correlation" in a group of Egyptian boys so it probably varies, on some level, between races. Does it vary between ethnic groups of the same race? I don't know but I think it might.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dear-fifa-there-is-no-scientific-test-to-prevent-age-fraud/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378603X1730219X

Finally, genetics may play a role. I don't have reliable data so I do not know the average height of Africans in various African countries but maybe we are a 'shorter' country. Someone once mentioned that Nigerians are shorter than some West Africans, I'm not sure. I know there are some Africans that are much taller than us but I didn't think there was that much difference between West Africans...not that I've noticed anyway.
From now on though, I'll be sure to keep an eye out

Icon4s:
Can diet affect extent of bone fussion. That is bone fusion progressing faster for Nigerian kids than those of their West African neighbors?

Besides, I would not want to believe that an average Malian , Guinean or Burkinabe kid enjoys better diet than Nigerian kids.

Diet and hormonal factors affect when the bones fuse but the test still remains the best gauge. Players from Senegal, Mali, Guinea etc are usually bigger than us at this age.

I read a study that showed that 95% of kids that are 18 years old already have their bone fused as opposed to 27% at 17 years old. By 19-20, all the subjects had their wrist bone fused.

Wrist joint: Banerjee KK and Aggarwal BB (1998)5 showed that the epiphyseal union around the wrist joint is completed in all cases in the age group of 19-20 years in male. In the present series, the epiphyseal union occurred about one year earlier than the finding in their series. Borovansky L and Hnevkovsky O (1929)3 stated that the distal ends of radius and ulna fused with their shafts at about 19 years. The age of epiphyseal union of various bones, in this series, are almost similar to their observations. The correlation coefficient at this joint for male in our present study is 0.5001, which showed moderately positive correlations. The Regression equation is Y=13.33+1.41X with a standard error of +/-1.61.

Curtisaxel7:
U-17 coach on his team's chances of winning.

Q: You have qualified for the World Cup, is your aim in the competition to win the trophy?

''I think our first aim coming to Tanzania was to qualify for the World Cup and we have done that, so right now we getting to the semifinal, we have just one step to the final. So God's willing, we defeating Guinea and getting to the final, I think we are going to win the trophy.''


This is how a forward thinking coach should talk. White Onigbinde take note!.

bros how market.
Football is not all about making urself the favorite but making ur opponent the favorite.
Football is more than what u see on the pitch . hope you have learnt

Thanks DrLikita12 and Tbaba1234.

So it suffices to say that "the Nigerian Golden Eaglets are stunted" and not that "the Guinean boys are too big for U17".