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Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by wirinet(m): 12:48pm On Apr 28, 2019
id911:
May God bless Yar'adua even in the grave. I can still remember vividly how he was set to deal severely with those two fraudulent business men and their likes before he died. They quickly came back with full force immediately Goodluck took over power. President Yardua was the true man of integrity and most patriotic President by miles. Even those indicted or accused of corruption in his government, not yet proven o, he ordered them to resign e.g Health Minister, Adenike Grange.

Each time I tried to say something about how fraudulent Femi Otedola is, it is either I'm attacked or it got deleted entirely here
Otedola ke? That one na mafia.
I am even shocked someone is comparing Otedola with Dangote. No one knows how Otedola made his billions (that is even if he is worth billions).

I am also of the opinion that Yar'adua was the most sincere president we had. He tried to correct some wrongs.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by baby124: 12:50pm On Apr 28, 2019
Obasanjo was one of the worst presidents in Nigeria’s history. He instituted corruption on a very high level. Smh.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by id911(m): 1:05pm On Apr 28, 2019
wirinet:
Otedola ke? That one na mafia.
I am even shocked someone is comparing Otedola with Dangote. No one knows how Otedola made his billions (that is even if he is worth billions).

I am also of the opinion that Yar'adua was the most sincere president we had. He tried to correct some wrongs.
One of the many ways he makes his dubious money is through the fraudulent fuel subsidy regime the government is currently running. They will import let's say, 20 metric tons of fuel but would write 50 and collect subsidy money for 50 running into several millions of dollars.

Anyone who believes Nigeria is consuming 55 million litres of gasoline daily needs to have his head examined. They inflate the figures to collect subsidy money from the Federal Government. They work in consonance with those in NNPC, DPR, PPPRA, etc to defraud the government but sadly, the current government is dumb
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by oyatz(m): 1:08pm On Apr 28, 2019
The OP and many of the commentators like him, must really be a young man to say that people started knowing Dangote in 2002!


When you greatly succeed and become when known, many ignorant people wrongly assume that you started your career/business when they started hearing about you.

Dangote was into trading of commodities(like Flour, Rice,Zuwo Sugar etc) betweenand Kano since the 1980s.

His phenomenal rise came

1) Around 2001 when his major rivals, the Vaswani brothers were arrested and deported by the Obasanjo's administration for economic crimes. This paved the way for Dangote to enjoy near Monopoly in the business

2) The transformation of his core business from trading to manufacturing in 2002 when he aquired Benue Cement Company, Gboko and merged it with Obajana Cement, Kogi State to form Dangote Cement with it's subsequent listing on the Nigerian Stock Exchange.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by oyatz(m): 1:24pm On Apr 28, 2019
Stopped reading the fiction before I got to that point, so the OP follow Dangote around to know who he sleeps with?







Asquare84:
What I may find it difficult to believe in the write up is the allegations that dangote is fund of sleeping with peoples wife I have never had about that before
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by Xisnin(m): 1:27pm On Apr 28, 2019
horsepower101:
I am not one of those that believes he started from no where. He had his own businesses just like so many others before government started giving him special favors. This is what ended up separating him from the rest. Not because he is smarter than the average businessman or any other manufactured attributes about him.

If Nigerian Government had supported your Mom the way dangote was supported, she too will be a billionaire or at least a multi-millionaire. I am sure she is a very smart woman.
Government don't just dash out special favors to random people.
Only those who work for it get it.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by oyatz(m): 1:28pm On Apr 28, 2019
Don't mind them, their hypocrisy is raised to power-10.

All these write-ups against Dangote and Otedola is borne out of ENVY and not patriotism or morality!
















wirinet:
So you guys are now getting personal. Ok, provide evidence of allegation that Dangote is fund fond of sleeping with other people's wives.

You guys should even give kudos and respect to Dangote. He never at any time practiced polygamy even though he is a Muslim. He divorced the first wife before taking on to a second one. He never had any child outside wedlock. If it was others that have the amount of money Dangote has, they would plant their seed in every local government in Nigeria.
The same people hating on Dangote for marrying and divorcing 2 wives are the same people calling Atiku a messiah.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by Xisnin(m): 1:28pm On Apr 28, 2019
horsepower101:
It called crony capitalism and is illegal in civilized countries.
"Crony capitalism" is socialist talk point and it is not illegal in any country.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by thatareaguy: 1:32pm On Apr 28, 2019
@Op ... Ratello. If you copy something from the web... add a reference to the post.

Here's the source: (2015 post)
https://link.medium.com/tHm9djvRfW
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 1:45pm On Apr 28, 2019
tuniski:
Getting govt to your side is part of being top entrepreneur!
In this case. Dangote being an Hausa man really helped him a lot.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by wirinet(m): 1:58pm On Apr 28, 2019
id911:
One of the many ways he makes his dubious money is through the fraudulent fuel subsidy regime the government is currently running. They will import let's say, 20 metric tons of fuel but would write 50 and collect subsidy money for 50 running into several millions of dollars.

Anyone who believes Nigeria is consuming 55 million litres of gasoline daily needs to have his head examined. They inflate the figures to collect subsidy money from the Federal Government. They work in consonance with those in NNPC, DPR, PPPRA, etc to defraud the government but sadly, the current government is dumb
I agree with you except the redded quote. You talk as if the subsidy regime started with this government, or that Otedola made his billions during this regime.
The subsidy scam is well entrenched in the Nigerian environment, and cannot be tackled unless we stop importation of petrol. The marketers/NNPC would simply blackmail the government and stop importation and selling of the product if they don't succumb to the marketers /NNPC. And that would cause civil unrest and possibly bring down the government.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by Nobody: 2:00pm On Apr 28, 2019
Godsfavour78:
the story has got to be true. Because you have nothing to lose by believing it. Just look at your logic.

You nor do philosophy GST for school?
Or quantitave and verbal reasoning for primary school.?
Okay, i believe the story, i only mentioned not having Anything to lose, because some people would say, I am hating for believing the story. grin

You are correct, i didn't think anyone on here would he smart enough to Notice. that the idea of believing the story because i wouldn't lose nothing is illogical.

Most people on here see things as either black or white with or Against, tribalistically without thinking rationally.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by Ratello(op): 2:04pm On Apr 28, 2019
thatareaguy:
@Op ... Ratello. If you copy something from the web... add a reference to the post.

Here's the source: (2015 post)
https://link.medium.com/tHm9djvRfW
Thanks for digging out the Source where I got it from (my whatsapp) there was no source.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by seborrhic: 2:04pm On Apr 28, 2019
id911:
Yardua was the true man of integrity and most patriotic President by miles. Even those indicted or accused of corruption in his government, not yet proven o, he ordered them to resign e.g Health Minister, Adenike Grange.
Bode George too,the most powerful PDP chieftain then in the Southwest was promptly taken to court and found guilty for corruption in the NPA.
You only have to look at how he promptly declared openly his assets and that of his family and also prompted GEJ to do same then,and compare him to the fraudster we now have,who made so much noise about asset declaration,but promptly hid behind legal and technical guises,in order not to declare his assets publicly.
Look again at the subsidy issue.YarAdua reduced prices and yet subsidy payment was at a manageable level.
Further,he initiated the amnesty program and carried it out honestly.
Everytime I remember YarAdua and compare him to Buhari,both from same Katsina state,one with no propaganda of integrity or being non corrupt and the other with a full PR machinery that sold Nigerians on it,I just conclude Buhari is a textbook case of the scam 101,fit for study in universities.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by jom28gy(m): 2:06pm On Apr 28, 2019
good revelation, if this thing is true,than obasanjo,is bad. and the duo needed to be investigated, but unfortunately, buhari,who is running a primordial government, cannot do it.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by oyatz(m): 2:12pm On Apr 28, 2019
Sir Loius Odumegwu Ojukwu, Sir Arthur Eze, Francis Authur Nzeribe, Sir Emeka Offor, Coscharis Maduka, Clement Ibeto, Chris UBA and Innocent Chukwuma were non- Hausas and all got Government patronage and/or support.






MyVILLAGEpeople:
In this case. Dangote being an Hausa man really helped him a lot.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by seborrhic: 2:13pm On Apr 28, 2019
wirinet:
I am also of the opinion that Yar'adua was the most sincere president we had. He tried to correct some wrongs.
Most sincere by miles.
The cabal that took over his government towards the tail end was likely because they sensed his failing health.
In all decisions he took while still active,you just had a sense that this is what the president wanted,for the best of the country,and he didn't mind who was involved or not.His were also decisions you felt was borne out of a man that could read and analyze issues on his own,get inputs,read through them and finally take a decision for the greater benefit of the country and populace.
The 2 others after him are have been at best scams of progressively increasing proportions.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by tuniski: 2:21pm On Apr 28, 2019
horsepower101:
It called crony capitalism and is illegal in civilized countries.
No crony capitalism is different from getting govt to your side. All capitalist economies have intense lobbying for govt ease of doing business that is different from govt patronage and vested interests!
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by horsepower101: 2:30pm On Apr 28, 2019
tuniski:
No crony capitalism is different from getting govt to your side. All capitalist economies have intense lobbying for govt ease of doing business that is different of govt patronage and vested interests!
Even at that, the end result of lobbying benefits sectors of the economy which the lobbyist are interested in. Its rare in developed democracies to see government make rules just for specific individual or individuals.

Imagine there are 20 people selling cement, then government makes special rule that benefits only 1 individual out of the 20 and kill the remaining 19 because of the advantage the government gave to that 1 individual. This is the problem with Dangote.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by tuniski: 2:39pm On Apr 28, 2019
horsepower101:
Even at that, the end result of lobbying benefits sectors of the economy which the lobbyist are interested in. Its rare in developed democracies to see government make rules just for specific individual or individuals.

Imagine there are 20 people selling cement, then government makes special rule that benefits only 1 individual out of the 20 and kill the remaining 19 because of the advantage the government gave to that 1 individual. This is the problem with Dangote.
That is unlike capitalism it is vested interest. Using laws to confer advantages on individuals is a feature of socialism than of capitalism.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by horsepower101: 2:46pm On Apr 28, 2019
tuniski:
That is unlike capitalism it is vested interest. Using laws to confer advantages on individuals is a feature of socialism than of capitalism.
Ok, you can call it what you want. At the end of the day, it is not right. Especially for a developing economy like Nigeria.

I rather Nigeria produce 10 thousand millionaires yearly because favorable and non partial policies than to produce another fraudulent billionaire who specializes in currying favors from government.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by wirinet(m): 3:32pm On Apr 28, 2019
tuniski:
That is unlike capitalism it is vested interest. Using laws to confer advantages on individuals is a feature of socialism than of capitalism.
Sorry to say, but you do not understand the characteristics of strict capitalism. It is socialism that attempts to level wealth disparity by trying to discourage monopoly by a few wealthy individuals. Capitalism makes attempt at this by taxing the wealthy more and enacting strong anti trust laws. Even at that, capitalism is struggling to rein in the few powerful rich. How do you think Jeff Bezos was able to amass close to $200 billion in less than 2 decades. What about Facebook and Microsoft, European and US governments had been trying to rein them in and not kill competition by various fines and punishments, but to no avail.

People like Dangote use their huge pockets and size to stifle completion. It's a classic business strategy which even China employs to kill smaller businesses. DSTV employed it to kill local cable channels. Because of the economies of scale, no one in Nigeria, if not Africa can compete with Dangote in terms of Cement, Sugar and Salt. When cement became very expensive during the obasanjo regime and it made his government look bad, Obasanjo simply appealed to Dangote to reduce price and cement fell from N2,800 to N1,500.
I agree it is dangerous to allow one man control so much of the economy, but what can we do, when our national assembly is only interested in constituency projects, instead of enacting anti trust laws. By the time Dangote refinery is operational, we will depend solely on one man for our lives, ie energy, food and home (cement).
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by tuniski: 4:26pm On Apr 28, 2019
wirinet:
Sorry to say, but you do not understand the characteristics of strict capitalism. It is socialism that attempts to level wealth disparity by trying to discourage monopoly by a few wealthy individuals. Capitalism makes attempt at this by taxing the wealthy more and enacting strong anti trust laws. Even at that, capitalism is struggling to rein in the few powerful rich. How do you think Jeff Bezos was able to amass close to $200 billion in less than 2 decades. What about Facebook and Microsoft, European and US governments had been trying to rein them in and not kill competition by various fines and punishments, but to no avail.

People like Dangote use their huge pockets and size to stifle completion. It's a classic business strategy which even China employs to kill smaller businesses. DSTV employed it to kill local cable channels. Because of the economies of scale, no one in Nigeria, if not Africa can compete with Dangote in terms of Cement, Sugar and Salt. When cement became very expensive during the obasanjo regime and it made his government look bad, Obasanjo simply appealed to Dangote to reduce price and cement fell from N2,800 to N1,500.
I agree it is dangerous to allow one man control so much of the economy, but what can we do, when our national assembly is only interested in constituency projects, instead of enacting anti trust laws. By the time Dangote refinery is operational, we will depend solely on one man for our lives, ie energy, food and home (cement).
It is Socialism bro. Crony capitalism is actually capitalism adulterated with socialism favouratism!!
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by wirinet(m): 4:38pm On Apr 28, 2019
tuniski:
It is Socialism bro. Crony capitalism is actually capitalism adulterated with socialism favouratism!!
Would you say Europe is practicing crony capitalism for trying to prevent Microsoft from stifling competition?
Read this;
Microsoft Slapped with Biggest Fine in EU History

The European Union on Wednesday levied the largest fine against any company in the bloc's history, ruling that Microsoft must pay a half billion euros for abusing its "near monopoly" status.
https://m.dw.com/en/microsoft-slapped-with-biggest-fine-in-eu-history/a-1149932
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by tuniski: 5:30pm On Apr 28, 2019
wirinet:
Would you say Europe is practicing crony capitalism for trying to prevent Microsoft from stifling competition?
Read this;
What so ever that increases competition is capitalism. Using laws and instruments to reduce competition thereby deepening monopoly/duopoly and the likes is crony capitalism.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by pcicero(m): 6:41pm On Apr 28, 2019
wirinet:
This guy is just wasting his talent. He should go into fiction writing, he will compete with J. K. Rawlings.

Dangote that had been dominating the sugar industry since the early 80s. Dangote entered rice around the late 80s. My friend took me to his house in dolphins estate around 1987, telling me Dangote was looking for distributors for his newly imported consignment of rice. All these were before Obasanjo ever became President.

This part of the tale is confusing;


What kind of powder was Dangote dealing with, talcum powered or yam flour before he moved to the US? And did he continued to deal in powder in the US?

The story did not also elaborate on the kind of consignment intercepted by US authorities? Was it powder?
According to the story, Dangote is a fugitive in the US and his brother Sani Gote, who took the fall for him is in prison?
Don't mind the idiots peddling lies all over.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by Nobody: 9:14pm On Apr 28, 2019
FatherCHRISTMAS:
First time I ever took my time to read a long topic on here
Congratulation.
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by Afamed: 10:35pm On Apr 28, 2019
jom28gy:
good revelation, if this thing is true,than obasanjo,is bad. and the duo needed to be investigated, but unfortunately, buhari,who is running a primordial government, cannot do it.
But you and your wailing crew will tag it witch-hunt immediately Obasanjo is arrested and prosecuted. Abi you suddenly forgotten how you serially defended Patience Jonathan and Co .
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by Afamed: 10:43pm On Apr 28, 2019
wirinet:
Would you say Europe is practicing crony capitalism for trying to prevent Microsoft from stifling competition?
Read this;
No continent in the world , that it doesn't rain. The magnitude of the rain, is what differs. Capitalism system of government is practiced length and breadth in the world even though the white would not tag it capitalism for you, but deep inside the process, you know what it is
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by jom28gy(m): 10:56pm On Apr 28, 2019
Afamed:
But you and your wailing crew will tag it witch-hunt immediately Obasanjo is arrested and prosecuted. Abi you suddenly forgotten how you serially defended Patience Jonathan and Co .
when
Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by FatherCHRISTMAS: 9:08pm On Apr 29, 2019
decoolseun:
Congratulation.
no vex say e dey small. Manage am

Re: The Fraudulent Nigerian Forbes Billionaires. by Enice(m): 9:15am On May 05, 2019
horsepower101:
It called crony capitalism and is illegal in civilized countries.
it is not illegal. it is called lobbying. companies like GE, boeing, ford, lockheed martins, JPmorgam, etc all lobby and influence US government's decision. they are called "TOO BIG TO FAIL" companies
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