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| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Akuruoulo(m): 6:56am On May 07, 2019 |
Dreambeat:There is |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Bet9ja8074: 7:05am On May 07, 2019 |
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| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Ndkings1(m): 7:16am On May 07, 2019 |
LOL |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by 234ng44uk(m): 7:19am On May 07, 2019 |
etrouble:And you're also committing sacrilege with this statement. The same thing you thing the Oba is accused of. Retract and delete that message |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 7:22am On May 07, 2019 |
samuk:Oduduwa was not from Benin. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Born2Breed(f): 7:37am On May 07, 2019 |
TAO11:There you go again...we are not bothered where your own version of Oduduwa migrated from, it could be Sudan or Mecca or Hausa. Our Prince went West of Benin to become a King and sent his son as a replacement who finally left due to anger. Your Oduduwa came from the East of Ife to become the almighty king of Yorubaland. Anytime you quote Joäo Alfonso book do it with open mind. Is Ife located in the East of Benin and is it a full moon walk? Does the present Ooni or past Ooni wear a Gold cross necklace? Who did Alfonso meet that told him these stories and were they Benin's or slave he met on the way? Did he confirm this from any Benin chief? Can you give what you don't have or adorn? I keep saying it until the Oba of Benin, Olugbo of Ugbo,Oõni of Ife and perhaps the Äalafin of Oyo come together and put the missing pieces together we their subjects will continue to battle of supremacy. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Section7: 7:39am On May 07, 2019 |
Oba in Diaspora, I wonder who will respect them in Nigeria, oba oluigbo iyaf smoke igbo |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Born2Breed(f): 7:39am On May 07, 2019 |
forgiveness:Where was he from? |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by emmasege: 7:40am On May 07, 2019 |
oduademonest:You do not blame Alaafin also, but Oonirisa himself. Sijuwade saw arrogance and insubordination in Lamidi Adeyemi, and he succeeded in neutralising and silencing him for as long as he reigned as Arole O'odua. It's time some Yoruba elders advised Oonirisa to stop undermining that throne by needless visits and consultations. It's obvious all over the nation and outside Nigeria that Oonirisa remains the most paramount ruler in Yoruba land. There is no controversy about that but the occupant of the throne should conduct himself with dignity and awe that's befitting of him and the throne. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by judgementyard(m): 7:42am On May 07, 2019 |
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| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Born2Breed(f): 7:48am On May 07, 2019 |
samuk:To them it's about supremacy,ego... One scholar even said to me that it's preferable to claim Oduduwa is from the North than Benin,one person here even stated the same thing. That was when I gave up on them,before then some of their scholars met at Oranmiyan Hall at Airport Hotel,Ikeja and agreed that Oduduwa is definitely not from Mecca and they should never agree on Benin either. Leave them and let them wallow in their ignorance. Tomorrow we will hear Hausa people were the first in Ife before Igbo. Las las them go agree on Benin soon. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 7:54am On May 07, 2019 |
GidiWoodsMan:YOU are a custodian of truth? Is your truth not hearsay What do you mean by "Historical basis" exactly You seem to be mixing things up. HE is claiming that his people WERE the aboriginals that were met in Ife and that they had royalty who were forced out by the Oduduwa dynasty and that he is a direct descendant of that royalty and that the Oduduwa dynaty are usurpers He is nor the only oba not claiming Oduduwa ancestry.That is an UNTRUTH Most if not all Obas in Eko do not and cannot claim Ife ancestry In fact the moment you hear a king called "Oba of ..... he is unlikely to claim Ife because Yorubas typically do not use Oba as "style" When Egbe Omo Oduduwa was formed their was controversy about the title Not everyone claims to be Omo Oduduwa and even the term "Yoruba" used to be reserved for Oyo and their relations. So an Ijebu person or Egba person would say things like "that Yoruba man that sells ,,,,," It is Nigeria that has forced us all to call ourselves "Yoruba" |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Isoduwa(m): 7:58am On May 07, 2019 |
KingLennon:This boy �� get sense now
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| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Bundaweber: 8:03am On May 07, 2019 |
TAO11:WRONG |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by ejimatic: 8:03am On May 07, 2019 |
MyVILLAGEpeople:. When a man is about to fall God will make him to be arrogant.Every Oba should know his limitation.Ugbo a settlement in Ondo State is silent in Ondo State let alone in the history of Yoruba race. The Oba Akinruntan and those supporting him need medical evaluation. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by samuk: 8:05am On May 07, 2019 |
TAO11:It is accepted by but the Yoruba and Benin that the Benin requested for Oduduwa to send a son to Benin as king. The Benin believe that this was done because Oduduwa himself is was their prince. The Yoruba dispute this. Oduduwa son only stayed in Benin briefly before going to establish Oyo. Please explain why the Benin people who already established a kingship system (Ogiso dynasty) spanning over 1000 years with over 32 Ogisos will suddenly wake up and request for a foreign ruler who they are not related to. Just to correct your assertion, no Oba of Benin sees any other Oba as superior to him, the Obas of Benin or the Ogiso (kings from heaven/sky) before them has always be regarded as second to God himself or God's representative on earth, it was so for centuries before Oduduwa arrived Ife. All Benin kings have always styled themselves as Kings from the Sky or God Kings (Ogiso), so there is no way they could have see the Ooni as a superior. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by ashala(m): 8:05am On May 07, 2019 |
Ndi ofe nmanu a Sef |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by sharpwriter(m): 8:05am On May 07, 2019 |
Amujale:Then where did the whites come from... How and when did they emerge? |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 8:12am On May 07, 2019 |
Sanchez01:Both of you are totally off point . What is Yorubaland? An empire is relevant as long as it has the means to enforce its authority otherwise it is relegated like a VHS recorder. A defeated emperor cannot claim authority over anyone. Yes Oyo once ruled much(not all) of "Yorubaland"(whatever this means) same way the Romans and later the British ruled much of the world. Can the British continue to appoint Governors-General in Nigeria ,India or even the USA which they once owned. The truth is even in so called Oyo empire territory before the British came the Olubadan had taken over and was the one that save the Oyos's from Ilorin invasion ALL the nations were independent of each other so the question of Ooni having any authority over the others is quite silly. They only came under the authority of Oyo BY FORCE and rebelled whenever they could for centuries. Certainly the Ijebu and Egba and those is Lagos are not blood relatives of Oyo and are more aboriginal with greater blood ties to riverine people s while the Oyos have greater blood ties to Nupe and Hausa whilst speaking related language and using Ifa religions. The Ekiti and Ondo have strong links with Edo and Ijaw peoples The case of Ijebus is very glaring. They are totally unique in that they do not circumcise their women The other thing to bear in mind is the tribal marks of Oyo which are more "Northern". Tribal marks should tell you that they are not one people This idea of one Yoruba nation is funny Ajase and others in Benin republic do not even call themselves Yoruba |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 8:14am On May 07, 2019 |
samuk:I do not think this is true . Do the Benin "accept" this ,when where and how? |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by MyVILLAGEpeople(op): 8:15am On May 07, 2019 |
TOBESKI15:I thought the gods of the land are responsible for who becomes king according to tradition in the olden days. It is that the gods ain't powerful these days anymore to choose who becomes king?? |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Prophet777: 8:16am On May 07, 2019 |
You dare not try this madness during the reign of Sir. Adesoji Aderemi, the late Ooni of Ife. The way he ruled with self prestige could not even allow you & he is well connected and respected all over the world. Late. Oba Okunade Sijuade as well has a designed template for a fraudster of this type who by chance finds himself in the corridor of traditional stool. You dont mess with him. Oba Ogunwusi Enitan, pls tolerance has a limit. Enough of this embarrassment, madness and insults emanating as a result of this. How I wish you can see the direction I am looking at this madness. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by samuk: 8:31am On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0:Don't quote me out of context. If you must quote me, do so completely. Yes Oranmiya ruled in Benin briefly as the grandson of Benin last Ogiso Owodo. Ogiso Owodo was the father of Oduduwa. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by kunmiiii: 8:32am On May 07, 2019 |
capitalzero:CapitalNo Bro!! There were about 13 kingdoms then, Ugbo was actually one of them, Oduduwa united the whole kingdoms as a centralized Ife by conquering them all, Ugbo was one of the kingdoms conquered. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by samuk: 8:33am On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0:Don't quote me out of context. If you must quote me, do so completely. Yes Oranmiya ruled in Benin briefly as the grandson of Benin last Ogiso Owodo. Ogiso Owodo was the father of Oduduwa. This is what the Benin accept. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by spiralwedge(m): 8:44am On May 07, 2019 |
Ondo gov should remove him asap. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by Nobody: 8:44am On May 07, 2019 |
aribisala0:What is an UNTRUTH there. I said 'probably'. The Oba of Lagos claims Benin which is still Oduduwa in a roundabout sort of way. The other kings in Lagos are Aworis who claim Ile-Ife origins. Which other king do you know in the entire Yoruba land who claims a pre-Oduduwa ancestry? |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 8:52am On May 07, 2019 |
oduademonest:Ooni does not have any supremacy? Never did never will The truth is traditionally kings never met each other because of civilization. The only supremacy was the military supremacy of Oyo which never covered everybody and which is expired just like the British Supremacy Can Britain today be talking of supremacy over the USA ? Is that not foolish? So what supremacy does the Ooni have? NONE whatsoever |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by perryy(m): 9:00am On May 07, 2019 |
forgiveness:Izoduwa (oduduwa) was from Benin. Anyone who believe he fell from the sky must be drunk as there is no life in the sky. The people then believed he came from the sky because he told them he was the son of Ogiso(king of the sky) . Those men that believed he was from Saudi are dimwitted as it would have been impossible for him to treck down to Ile Ife all the way from Saudi. He told them he was from the side where the sun rises from , that is East, and Benin is east of Ife . In that case , Olugbo is right ,if you are talking of Paramount rulers of those that speak the Yoruba language. Now if u are talking of Oyo empire, then the Alafin of Oyo is number one and not even Ile ife as Ife did not great any empire . Outside Oyo empire , there was no other unified Yoruba kingdom in history which Ife was the head of. Now , how cone Ooni of Ife is now the number one ruler of Yoruba land ? Was there anything like Yoruba land in history? What history has is Oyo empire which was headed by the Alafin of Oyo and not Ooni of Ife. If we are to jettison the Oyo empire and talk about a unified Yoruba kingdom, I think the Olugbo is very right as his kingdom predate that of Izoduwa no obhi Arunmunda ( Oduwuwa the son of Arunmunda) It is either we jettison Oyo influence and recognize Ugbo or stand by Oyo and make Alafin the number one ruler of the modern Oyo empire . Thank you. |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by aribisala0(m): 9:00am On May 07, 2019 |
Amujale:I do not think that Oduduwa came from Mecca but Oduduwa "came" about 1000 years ago not thousands and thousands of years ago. Which tells us that he is not the progenitor of Yoruba people he was a man who cane from OUTSIDE and established a dynasty just like Uthman dan Fodio and the Gambaris did among the Hausa or the French did among the English He met some people on ground in Ife and at the same time there were already people on ground in Ijesha Ekiti Egba etc doing their thing.They are not in anyway related . Ifa traditional religion had been on ground for centuries before Oduduwa arrived Yes their are Ifa myths of creation and a person falling from the sky but that person was not Oduduwa thought the story has been corrupted to include him |
| Re: Fredrick Obateru Akinruntan: I Am The Leader Of All Obas In Yorubaland by forgiveness: 9:02am On May 07, 2019 |
perryy:Oduduwa didn't fall from the sky neither did he come from Benin. |
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