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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:52pm On May 10, 2019
Humility017:



okay better.
just feel pity for Aigbogun he has no dream for his coaching future other than to coach the national teams.

no Nigeria coaches dream of coaching an EPL, LA LIGA, SERIA A etc team in the future. .....reason why they indulge in corrupt scandal...

so painful....reason why they square round the national team job as if it is their birth right.

He has coached in the UK and south Africa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:56pm On May 10, 2019
BascoVanVeli:

He has coached in the UK and south Africa
probably coached an academy in the UK... because no one who has coached a club in the UK will act the way he is doing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:30am On May 11, 2019
chrisooblog:
first of why are sometimes so emotional and rude when passing across your points? if it were just bants i would understand but this is the uptenth time you are doing this. dude you are a christian or so you claim we can debate issues without throwing insults. have i referred to you as an ignoramus in any post before? forgiveness be guided.

now to your points for ajagun it's not about the span of his career but how well he has done so far. he won one miserly greek cup because of that we should do somersaults? answer me was he ever voted one of the best in the nigerian greek dutch or belgium leagues that you will not let us rest?

who mentioned awaziem? we are talking about ilori who you claimed is supposed to be a marquee defender trust you to cherry pick the stats that fit your narrative even if we compare the two tiago at 26 years old should be nearing his best not competing with a 22 year old awaziem who is just in the early stage of his career? how the "mighty" have fallen.

ebuehi before his injury was outstanding in his dutch club den haag that's why benfica bought him. tiago you will probably claim has been blighted by injury but he hasn't suffered season or career ending type injuries so how come the times he's fit is he not getting playing time? he for instance has only played 4 times this seasons while being injured for just a month what happened to the remaining months?

you call playing 9 out of 19 games successful? omeruo has played almost every game for leganes has been named in team of the week twice was ilori ever named man of the match in spain?

yes he ran back to portugal cos that's his comfort zone to revive his career.

what even brought nwakali into this matter? have i ever hyped him or campaigned for him to be invited to the super eagles? nwakali is poor, iheanacho is poor, ajagun is poor, ilori is poor cest fini!


How can you accuse me of being emotional and rude when it's written all over your post?

Remove the beam in your eyes before you do that for others.

How many players currently in the national team have won the best player award in their leagues before they got into the National team?

Did Etebo win the best player in Nigeria league before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Alex Iwobi win the best player in Arsenal academy before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Shehu win the best player in the Kuwait league before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Wilfred Ndidi win the best player in Belgium before he made his debut for the national team?

Why must Abdul Ajagun win the best player before he is called into the National team despite the fact that these aforementioned players didn't achieve half of what he achieved in the Nigerian league and with Panathinaikos in the Greek league before they even made their debut for the 'national' team?

But all these made their debut either from the same Nigerian league, academy, Kuwait league and Belgium league.

Are these league better than the Greece league that produced the Greece National team that reached the Europe 2012 quarter finals as at that time?

Why raise the bar for some players and lower the bar for some players in the supposed 'National' team?

Is this not another emotive and subjective reasoning?

I smell double standard. Isn't it?

Why won't I mention Awaziem? Is he not a Nigerian?

We should compare both performance in the Ligue 1 because they both played there at the same age (21).

Tiago Ilori outperformed Awaziem in the same Ligue 1 despite the fact that they were both the same age as at the time they played there. Fact

How come you claimed Tiago Ilori flopped in Ligue 1 but still commended Awaziem who didn't have a better stats than Tiago Ilori in the same Ligue 1? This is Nigeria where sentiments has beclouded people's sense of reasoning. They only praise their own and try to put down others just to feel good.

If you have problem with whoscored, why don't you create your own double standard siu measurement?

For a 20 years old boy who went to la Liga during the summer transfer with just 18 matches left and still went ahead to start to finish in 9 matches with a MOTM against almighty Barcelona confirmed he was successful in La Liga. Despite the 9 games, his stats is better than Omeruo.


Anyway, according to you, la Liga is better than EPL. Isn't it? grin

See Tiago Ilori made la Liga team of the week too. How come you took notice of Omeruo but couldn't do the same for Tiago Ilori? Wonders shall never end. I smell double standard.

Ebuehi was outstanding in the Eredivise league and that was why Benfica bought. Hmmm!

So, why did Liverpool buy Tiago Ilori? grin

Why did Sporting Lisbon buy back Tiago Ilori?

Who told you Ilori didn't get game time when he was fit in Ligue 1 and la Liga where he won motm and even made the team of the league?

Who told Tiago Ilori didn't get game time when he was fit in the Championship? Person wey play in the Championship play off final self.

Who told you Tiago Ilori only played 4 games this season? Somebody wey play against Manchester United and Watford in the FA cup and EFL cup. He even played in the Europa League against Villarreal self but you claimed he only had 4 games. How truthful are you?

How can I take you seriously for your last two paragraphs?

My friend, get hold of yourself before sentiments blind your eyes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 6:57am On May 11, 2019
forgiveness:


How can you accuse me of being emotional and rude when it's written all over your post?

Remove the beam in your eyes before you do that for others.

How many players currently in the national team have won the best player award in their leagues before they got into the National team?

Did Etebo win the best player in Nigeria league before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Alex Iwobi win the best player in Arsenal academy before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Shehu win the best player in the Kuwait league before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Wilfred Ndidi win the best player in Belgium before he made his debut for the national team?

Why must Abdul Ajagun win the best player before he is called into the National team despite the fact that these aforementioned players didn't achieve half of what he achieved in the Nigerian league and with Panathinaikos in the Greek league before they even made their debut for the 'national' team?

But all these made their debut either from the same Nigerian league, academy, Kuwait league and Belgium league.

Are these league better than the Greece league that produced the Greece National team that reached the Europe 2012 quarter finals as at that time?

Why raise the bar for some players and lower the bar for some players in the supposed 'National' team?

Is this not another emotive and subjective reasoning?

I smell double standard. Isn't it?

Why won't I mention Awaziem? Is he not a Nigerian?

We should compare both performance in the Ligue 1 because they both played there at the same age (21).

Tiago Ilori outperformed Awaziem in the same Ligue 1 despite the fact that they were both the same age as at the time they played there. Fact

How come you claimed Tiago Ilori flopped in Ligue 1 but still commended Awaziem who didn't have a better stats than Tiago Ilori in the same Ligue 1? This is Nigeria where sentiments has beclouded people's sense of reasoning. They only praise their own and try to put down others just to feel good.

If you have problem with whoscored, why don't you create your own double standard siu measurement?

For a 20 years old boy who went to la Liga during the summer transfer with just 18 matches left and still went ahead to start to finish in 9 matches with a MOTM against almighty Barcelona confirmed he was successful in La Liga. Despite the 9 games, his stats is better than Omeruo.


Anyway, according to you, la Liga is better than EPL. Isn't it? grin

See Tiago Ilori made la Liga team of the week too. How come you took notice of Omeruo but couldn't do the same for Tiago Ilori? Wonders shall never end. I smell double standard.

Ebuehi was outstanding in the Eredivise league and that was why Benfica bought. Hmmm!

So, why did Liverpool buy Tiago Ilori? grin

Why did Sporting Lisbon buy Tiago Ilori back?

Who told you Ilori didn't get game time when he was fit in Ligue 1 and la Liga where he won motm and even made the team of the league?

Who told Tiago Ilori didn't get game time when he was fit in the Championship? Person wey play in the Championship play off final self.

Who told you Tiago Ilori only played 4 games this season? Somebody wey play against Manchester United and Watford in the FA cup and EFL cup. He even played in the Europa League against Villarreal self but you claimed he only had 4 games. How truthful are you?

How can I take you seriously for your last two paragraphs?

My friend, get hold of yourself before sentiments blind your eyes.





physician heal thyself and stop with the hypocritical posts

All I have gathered from your ranting and long-winded epistle is average players have been called up into the national team so why haven't my own favourite average players being called up

Please spare me with your Defender of defenseless bullcrap Samuel was doing well in Belgium I didn't hear all this your noise Paul was doing well in Denmark I didn't hear all this your noise but when it comes to your favourite players your eye will be shining like a lightbulb with High Voltage

if you like call me biased sentimental or even the evil affecting Nigeria football that is your business reasonable people have seen through the b******* you are selling and refuse to buy it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 7:26am On May 11, 2019
forgiveness:


How can you accuse me of being emotional and rude when it's written all over your post?

Remove the beam in your eyes before you do that for others.

How many players currently in the national team have won the best player award in their leagues before they got into the National team?

Did Etebo win the best player in Nigeria league before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Alex Iwobi win the best player in Arsenal academy before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Shehu win the best player in the Kuwait league before he made his debut for the national team?

Did Wilfred Ndidi win the best player in Belgium before he made his debut for the national team?

Why must Abdul Ajagun win the best player before he is called into the National team despite the fact that these aforementioned players didn't achieve half of what he achieved in the Nigerian league and with Panathinaikos in the Greek league before they even made their debut for the 'national' team?

But all these made their debut either from the same Nigerian league, academy, Kuwait league and Belgium league.

Are these league better than the Greece league that produced the Greece National team that reached the Europe 2012 quarter finals as at that time?

Why raise the bar for some players and lower the bar for some players in the supposed 'National' team?

Is this not another emotive and subjective reasoning?

I smell double standard. Isn't it?

Why won't I mention Awaziem? Is he not a Nigerian?

We should compare both performance in the Ligue 1 because they both played there at the same age (21).

Tiago Ilori outperformed Awaziem in the same Ligue 1 despite the fact that they were both the same age as at the time they played there. Fact

How come you claimed Tiago Ilori flopped in Ligue 1 but still commended Awaziem who didn't have a better stats than Tiago Ilori in the same Ligue 1? This is Nigeria where sentiments has beclouded people's sense of reasoning. They only praise their own and try to put down others just to feel good.

If you have problem with whoscored, why don't you create your own double standard siu measurement?

For a 20 years old boy who went to la Liga during the summer transfer with just 18 matches left and still went ahead to start to finish in 9 matches with a MOTM against almighty Barcelona confirmed he was successful in La Liga. Despite the 9 games, his stats is better than Omeruo.


Anyway, according to you, la Liga is better than EPL. Isn't it? grin

See Tiago Ilori made la Liga team of the week too. How come you took notice of Omeruo but couldn't do the same for Tiago Ilori? Wonders shall never end. I smell double standard.

Ebuehi was outstanding in the Eredivise league and that was why Benfica bought. Hmmm!

So, why did Liverpool buy Tiago Ilori? grin

Why did Sporting Lisbon buy Tiago Ilori back?

Who told you Ilori didn't get game time when he was fit in Ligue 1 and la Liga where he won motm and even made the team of the league?

Who told Tiago Ilori didn't get game time when he was fit in the Championship? Person wey play in the Championship play off final self.

Who told you Tiago Ilori only played 4 games this season? Somebody wey play against Manchester United and Watford in the FA cup and EFL cup. He even played in the Europa League against Villarreal self but you claimed he only had 4 games. How truthful are you?

How can I take you seriously for your last two paragraphs?

My friend, get hold of yourself before sentiments blind your eyes.






uhmmm with all these stat and with ilori less game time this guy is a gem (as at that time) but let wait and see what He will do at sporting Lisbon

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:16am On May 11, 2019
chrisooblog:
physician heal thyself and stop with the hypocritical posts

All I have gathered from your ranting and long-winded epistle is average players have been called up into the national team so why haven't my own favourite average players being called up

Please spare me with your Defender of defenseless bullcrap Samuel was doing well in Belgium I didn't hear all this your noise Paul was doing well in Denmark I didn't hear all this your noise but when it comes to your favourite players your eye will be shining like a lightbulb with High Voltage

if you like call me biased sentimental or even the evil affecting Nigeria football that is your business reasonable people have seen through the b******* you are selling and refuse to buy it



You are the hypocrite here. You want to sell Ajagun and Tiago as average but after showing you facts you still can't hide your face in shame and agree you are wrong.

Facts don't lie but your support for average players to be called into the National team portrays you as one who is bias and highly sentimental.

Who are the reasonable people? grin

Your post shows you can't reason left alone to be reasonable.

Imagine acussing me of not calling for Samuel Kalu and Paul Onuacha! shocked

Why should I clamour for Samuel Kalu when we had Victor Moses and Alex Iwobi playing in the premier League with Chelsea and Arsenal as at that time?

As at the time Samuel Kalu was doing well in the Belgium league many players who played the same wing with him were still doing better than him in better leagues and even in the same Belgium league. Yes! Even Peter Olayinka was ahead of him not to talk of Onyekuru and Simon Moses.

He was down the pecking order. That's it. No reasonable person will clamour for Samuel Kalu who was down the pecking order except you. grin


The same fate befell Paul Onuacha. Many players who were playing in the same position were doing better than Paul Onuacha in better leagues as at the time he did well. He was down the pecking order even below Kayode Olanrewaju. Why should any reasonable person clamour for Paul? Except the person lacks sense of reasoning he can even think about that.

The point remains that, Abdul Ajagun was doing better than Etebo, Shehu, etc who were playing the same position as at the time they were invited ahead of him into the 'National' team.

The point remains that Tiago Ilori did better than both Awaziem and Omeruo statistical in both the la Liga and Ligue 1, but as that time I clamoured for him, some mischievous people said he wasn't good enough.

Why turn around and praise Awaziem and Omeruo who were below him statistically speaking in the same leagues? grin

How can that not be reasonable enough for you not to understand or decipher?

Who is one of those clamouring for Chukwueze to play in the AFCON when most wants him to play for the U-20 only? Who? I ask again, who?

We are not the same and can never be the same when it comes to having a sane judgement. I am far ahead of you in this regard else show me where you ever made a sane prediction and it can to past. Show me.

Try to have an objective reason for once.










My friend, have a lovely day.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 8:30am On May 11, 2019
Ighalo feared outta the AFCON after being stretchered off in his team's 1all draw in the lowly CSL.


This could be a blessing in disguise and should never be considered a loss if he eventually misses the Afcon, since he is reputed for fluffing his lines always.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:32am On May 11, 2019
sheyishemba:


uhmmm with all these stat and with ilori less game time this guy is a gem (as at that time) but let wait and see what He will do at sporting Lisbon


Exactly! As at that time is what we speak about and he was clearly better than those in the national team then.

Now that Sporting Lisbon bought him back, we should just wait and see what becomes of him.

I don't know to be bought by Sporting Lisbon tantamounts to having regression. Some people sense of reasoning is very shallow.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:30am On May 11, 2019
ChrisKels:
Ighalo feared outta the AFCON after being stretchered off in his team's 1all draw in the lowly CSL.


This could be a blessing in disguise and should never be considered a loss if he eventually misses the Afcon, since he is reputed for fluffing his lines always.
totally uncalled for

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 9:30am On May 11, 2019
forgiveness:



Exactly! As at time is what we speak about and he was clearly better than those in the national team then.

Now that Sporting Lisbon bought him back, we should just wait and see what becomes of him.

I don't know to be bought by Sporting Lisbon tantamounts to having regression. Some people sense of reasoning is very shallow.

Stop with the sense of reasoning being shallow bro. People have a right to their own opinion.

I think several factors restricted the callup of Tiago Ilori especially the time he broke into the Sporting Lisbon team in his teens. He was seen as a top promising talent. Some touted the idea he would captain the Portuguese side. I think he even at some point captained the Sporting Lisbon team.

Loyalty:
I doubt he was ever loyal to the GWG Jersey. He never expressed the idea of representing us. Unless it would have required the NFF going to him and convincing (begging) him to develop passion to play for us.

Injuries:
Injuries kept the bright talent for having a healthy run of games and he did not stay in the spotlight consistently to beam the light of availability for him.

Bench:
On repeated occasions, Ilori found himself out of favor with managers, thus reducing his growth.

However, if some kind of good spotlight fell on Ilori, I think he would have continued his love affair with the Portuguese. I think his loyalty was his biggest draw back.

But, it would have been a steal if we had tried to use the National team to expose his talent which might have worked. I have always believed the National team should not only be about receiving but giving.

In the end, Tiago Ilori's loyalty was never with us for our coaches to be criticised for not reaching out to him. Especially, being a lower choice if things did not work out for him. However, if things worked out, Portugal would have been his only choice.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:48am On May 11, 2019
maidaboi:
totally uncalled for

No point trynna paint it, dude aint no loss, he has never been prolific. He's always flattered to deceive, reason I tag him a rope of sand. He promises nothing buh, misses upon misses as a striker in the GWG.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:54am On May 11, 2019
ChrisKels:
Ighalo feared outta the AFCON after being stretchered off in his team's 1all draw in the lowly CSL.


This could be a blessing in disguise and should never be considered a loss if he eventually misses the Afcon, since he is reputed for fluffing his lines always.
you I'll rather we carry the pigmouthed barren iheanacho or goal rusted success as our number 9 striker? undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:02am On May 11, 2019
krattoss:
you I'll rather we carry the pigmouthed barren iheanacho or goal rusted success as our number 9 striker? undecided

Yes I'd rather we carried the barren pig-mouthed Iheanacho or goal rusty Success than Misses PenalGhalo to the AFCON grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:20am On May 11, 2019
ChrisKels:


Yes I'd rather we carried the barren pig-mouthed Iheanacho or goal rusty Success than Misses PenalGhalo to the AFCON grin



Ur plan no go work grin grin,u sha wan smuggle in ur olodo nacho to afcon grin grin


Ighalo is going by fire by force cool an half fit ighalo is way better dan nacho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:39am On May 11, 2019
elyte89:




Ur plan no go work grin grin,u sha wan smuggle in ur olodo nacho to afcon grin grin


Ighalo is going by fire by force cool an half fit ighalo is way better dan nacho

Lol, baba mi forget talk, e dun happen already. Just so u know, neither of tennis racket first touch Nacho nor Misses PenalGhalo would make my team.

I would play Musa as a 9 ahead of those two. My choice strikers are Osimhen, Onuachu and Musa. Wingers/WFs; Chukwueze, Onyekuru, Kalu, Musa or maybe SiMoses. KPOM!!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:52am On May 11, 2019
ChrisKels:
Ighalo feared outta the AFCON after being stretchered off in his team's 1all draw in the lowly CSL.


This could be a blessing in disguise and should never be considered a loss if he eventually misses the Afcon, since he is reputed for fluffing his lines always.

so sad for him..
but we won't miss him much..provided we have oshimen and Paul to step in...

God forbid we take Nacho to afcon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:53am On May 11, 2019
ChrisKels:


Lol, baba mi forget talk, e dun happen already. Just so u know, neither of tennis racket first touch Nacho nor Misses PenalGhalo would make my team.

I would play Musa as a 9 ahead of those two. My choice strikers are Osimhen, Onuachu and Musa. Wingers/WFs; Chukwueze, Onyekuru, Kalu, Musa or maybe SiMoses. KPOM!!

God forbid we play musa as top 9....
that guy can miss goal scoring opportunities ..any how
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:00am On May 11, 2019
Humility017:


so sad for him..
but we won't miss him much..provided we have oshimen and Paul to step in...

God forbid we take Nacho to afcon.

At the bolded grin

From here, the straw that broke the camel's back was that chance he messed up against SA at the FNB stadium due to his Lukaku challenge. Gush I felt like kicking his teeth via the TV. Nacho should be excused from the team, dude should go back to Taye Academy in Owerri or Emmyboy's Blue Tigers of Mbaise to learn the basics grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by CaptainStephen(m): 11:04am On May 11, 2019
See them, if nacho comes and bangs a brace now in prewarm games una go change story grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:26am On May 11, 2019
Iheanacho needs a psychologist and a life style change. He needs to refocus on football alone and forget everything else. He is young enough to recover if he wants it badly enough.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:41am On May 11, 2019
thegoodjoehunt3:


Stop with the sense of reasoning being shallow bro. People have a right to their own opinion.

I think several factors restricted the callup of Tiago Ilori especially the time he broke into the Sporting Lisbon team in his teens. He was seen as a top promising talents. Some touted the idea he would captain the Portuguese side. I think he even at some point captained the Sporting Lisbon team.

Loyalty:
I doubt he was ever loyal to the GWG Jersey. He never expressed the idea of representing us. Unless it would have required the NFF going to him and convincing (begging) him to develop passion to play for us.

Injuries:
Injuries kept the bright talent for having a healthy run of games and he did not stay in the spotlight consistently to beam the light of availability for him.

Bench:
On repeated occasions, Ilori found himself out of favor with managers, thus reducing his growth.

However, if some kind of good spotlight fell on Ilori, I think he would have continued his love affair with the Portuguese. I think his loyalty was his biggest draw back.

But, it would have been a steal if we had tried to use the National team to expose his talent which might have worked. I have always believed the National team should not only be about receiving but giving.

In the end, Tiago Ilori's loyalty was never with us for our coaches to be criticised for not reaching out to him. Especially, being a lower choice if things did not work out for him. However, if things worked out, Portugal would have been his only choice.


Why didn't these same factors restrict Jordan Torunarigha, Kevin Akpoguma and Felix Uduokhai from getting chased by the same coach and NFF as soon as they brook into the Bundesliga?

What about the one that ssid we rolled red carpet for him? grin

Are they loyal to the GWG?

Did they ever expressed the idea of playing for Nigeria as at the time the NFF and the coaching crew pursued after them?

And they still keep begging them to play for us till this day(I am firmly in support and wish the same gesture is extended to all Nigerians FB).

Why should Tiago Ilori's case be different despite having a better stats than these players when each made their debut in the top 5 leagues in Europe?

Tiago still had a better stats afterwards, even in the Ligue 1.

Why has he not been given a hot chase the same way these are chased till date eventhough they snubbed them several times?

Tiago Ilori stayed in the spotlight for 3 straight seasons in the Portuguese league, LA Liga and Ligue 1.

Do you mean that was not consistent enough to beam the light of availablity for him to atleast be approached?

Tiago Ilori didn't find himself out of favour with the managers he played for in the Portuguese league, la Liga and Ligue 1 which spanned for 3 good seasons despite these he was never approached but all these aforementioned had just one season in Bundesliga and the phone kept ringing. grin

Now that we know these German Nigerian born players loyalty are not with us but still get chased by the coach and NFF, is not enough to criticize them?

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:41am On May 11, 2019
Humility017:


God forbid we play musa as top 9....
that guy can miss goal scoring opportunities ..any how

Only a clueless coach will play musa as a false 9 in the national team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:43am On May 11, 2019
Humility017:


so sad for him..
but we won't miss him much..provided we have oshimen and Paul to step in...

God forbid we take Nacho to afcon.

Some mad people here will prefer nacho because of their hate for ighalo

Those celebrating ighalo injury should hold their breath till the result is out and confirm he is out of afcon

Make some people no go get high blood pressure .

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:44am On May 11, 2019
elyte89:




Ur plan no go work grin grin,u sha wan smuggle in ur olodo nacho to afcon grin grin


Ighalo is going by fire by force cool an half fit ighalo is way better dan nacho

Lol

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by RichardKajola(m): 12:43pm On May 11, 2019
bazooka1:


You don't get my point do you? I have never said anything to discredit Pep as a good coach. I think he's brilliant but I have always maintained the Klopp has made more impact judging from where he picked up LIVERPOOL and and having to spend moderately to build until last season when the club built up cash reserve and invested heavily to match city.
If you had followed my argument, you will find out I have always maintained this point.

Guardiola on the other was given a blank check by City. Infact the main reason he joined Man city in the first place was because they promised to make cash available to him for whatever he wanted with no limits.
Ok I get your point now, so you are trying to compare the work Guardiola has done at Man city and the one Klopp has done at Liverpool.
Well you can't really compare them as per league standing because while Guardiola met a team which was already at the top(at least when it's comes to English football) so there was little room for improvement as per league standing but Klopp met a struggling side( forget their one season wonder) so he had alot of room for improvement as per league standing which he has, credit to him.
To access Guardiola's Man City , check other aspects. They shattered and made new record last season in the premier league and they did it playing an amazing and simply beautiful style of football.
Give credit to him and not the finances because I can count many managers that were given money yet failed woefully. And you are making it sound like he got every single player he wanted

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:02pm On May 11, 2019
thegoodjoehunt3:


Stop with the sense of reasoning being shallow bro. People have a right to their own opinion.

I think several factors restricted the callup of Tiago Ilori especially the time he broke into the Sporting Lisbon team in his teens. He was seen as a top promising talents. Some touted the idea he would captain the Portuguese side. I think he even at some point captained the Sporting Lisbon team.

Loyalty:
I doubt he was ever loyal to the GWG Jersey. He never expressed the idea of representing us. Unless it would have required the NFF going to him and convincing (begging) him to develop passion to play for us.

Injuries:
Injuries kept the bright talent for having a healthy run of games and he did not stay in the spotlight consistently to beam the light of availability for him.

Bench:
On repeated occasions, Ilori found himself out of favor with managers, thus reducing his growth.

However, if some kind of good spotlight fell on Ilori, I think he would have continued his love affair with the Portuguese. I think his loyalty was his biggest draw back.

But, it would have been a steal if we had tried to use the National team to expose his talent which might have worked. I have always believed the National team should not only be about receiving but giving.

In the end, Tiago Ilori's loyalty was never with us for our coaches to be criticised for not reaching out to him. Especially, being a lower choice if things did not work out for him. However, if things worked out, Portugal would have been his only choice.
Leave forgiveness alone to his illusions..
I was very amused the first time I saw him clamour for Tiago Ilori.. a player I took an interest in after he signed for Liverpool in 2013. Trust me he has no interest in Nigeria. This boy was born in England to a British father of Nigerian descent and a Portuguese mother... played for Portugal youth team and toasted by England... Nigeria was never in the picture..Once he revive his career with sporting,it is straight to the Portuguese senior team for him..

Forgiveness just like picking fights over unnecessary issues...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:06pm On May 11, 2019
CaptainStephen:
See them, if nacho comes and bangs a brace now in prewarm games una go change story grin grin

He shouldn't even make the preliminary squad list self... in addition to Osimhen and Onuachu, I'll prefer we give Nwaekeme, Odey and Blessing Ekele a chance..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:12pm On May 11, 2019
andrew444:


Only a clueless coach will play musa as a false 9 in the national team
He said Top 9 not false 9 .. I won't play Musa as a top9 but would definitely play him as a false9 .. His has the ability to play that role well...energy,pace,skill,good work rate.. and he can create goal scoring chances too..

Play Musa as a false9 with Onyekuru(an inverted winger) on the left and Chukwueze(a left footed RW) on the right and u will see goals flowing!!

Its a shame we have a tactically clueless manager who doesn't know how to utilize the talents at his disposal

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:22pm On May 11, 2019
Danielnino00:

Leave forgiveness alone to his illusions..
I was very amused the first time I saw him clamour for Tiago Ilori.. a player I took an interest in after he signed for Liverpool in 2013. Trust me he has no interest in Nigeria. This boy was born in England to a British father of Nigerian descent and a Portuguese mother... played for Portugal youth team and toasted by England... Nigeria was never in the picture..Once he revive his career with sporting,it is straight to the Portuguese senior team for him..

Forgiveness just like picking fights over unnecessary issues...

How do you know he is not interested in Nigeria?

Did you personally approached him and he then told you that?

Are you his father, brother or spoke person?

Were Jordan Torunarigha, Kevin Akpoguma and Felix Uduokhai interested in playing for Nigeria before NFF approached them?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 1:42pm On May 11, 2019
ChrisKels:


Yes I'd rather we carried the barren pig-mouthed Iheanacho or goal rusty Success than Misses PenalGhalo to the AFCON grin

May God punish you Sir. You hate the SE with all your heart.

You will rather pick a proven useless flop who cannot even trap a ball than the highest scoring player in the entire qualifying series. Ighalo virtually qualified us singlehandedly to this AFCON, scoring a hattrick and creating goals out of nothing, yet you publicly celebrate his injury. And you call yourself an SE fan.

Shame on you Sir. May a worse fate than Ighalo's injury befall you in the nearest future.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 1:46pm On May 11, 2019
Iheanacho has no place in our senior national team. Until he improves.

I don't want to see him ten miles near that AFCON list.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:47pm On May 11, 2019
forgiveness:


How do you know he is not interested in Nigeria?

Did you personally approached him and then he told you that?

Are you his father, brother or spoke person?

Where Jordan Torunarigha, Kevin Akpoguma and Felix Uduokhai interested in playing for Nigeria before NFF approached them?



Ilori is in the same shoe with Rose Barkley.. People who have little or no connection with Nigeria..

Are you his father,mother or brother to tell us that he is interested in playing for us?
Not everybody asslick foreign born players like u do here...

At least Udohaki and Tonnoarugha have indicated that they are still open to playing for Nigeria.. to the best of my knowledge, then NFF hasn't bought a home for their scouts to be begging Udohaki and Tonnouarigha everyday...

And finally, why do u think it is the responsibility of the NFF to be approaching every foreign born Nigerian player? If we are to count the foreign born Nigerian footballers out there,they could be up to a thousand! A few hundred of them could be playing at professional level .how would ghr NFF approach all of them? How would the NFF position it's scouts to identify all of them?
Shouldn't these players speak out too so we should notice them?
Has Tiago ever spoken about Nigeria?

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