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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 7:31pm On May 17, 2019
Schalke and Lazio interested in Awoniyi

Osimhen moving to Ac Milan

Chuks getting interest all over the place..

Next season will be interesting depending on where these players decide to move.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 7:45pm On May 17, 2019
Chinonso Emeka

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Barryseal: 7:57pm On May 17, 2019
tbaba1234:
Schalke and Lazio interested in Awoniyi

Osimhen moving to Ac Milan

Chuks getting interest all over the place..

Next season will be interesting depending on where these players decide to move.
They all could rot on the bench next season if they don't make the right choices.
I mean all three of them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AIG07: 8:00pm On May 17, 2019
Hello house,

I think it is high time we all agree to a particular unit/system of measurement when it comes to certain issues like player rankings.

The words below average, average, above average, top player, excellent player, world class, legend etc should be well defined and where possible mathematically proofed/backed up.

Reason for this is simple.
I believe anyone who has grouped our players into classes has done so using his/her personal metrics which is based on their understanding and perception which might not be generally acceptable.

The rating done in football is often on scale of {0-10} or {0%-100%} which afford the no 5 and 50 to be average mark.

A pundit who uses 0-10scale can easily group players in to 5 classes {POOR(0-2.49), BELOW AVERAGE (2.50-4.99), AVERAGE(5), ABOVE AVERAGE(5.10-7.49) AND WORLD Class (7.5-10) while any one who uses just 1-3 or will likely have (BELOW AVERAGE, AVERAGE And WORLD Class) which is limited when the pool of players is much and wide.

If I were to use the 0-10 scale,

None of our players will make it to the World Class group. I repeat none. I'll place Ndidi in the 'top' of THE ABOVE AVERAGE group alongside Mikel, Iwobi slightly below them in the same group,
The rest bunch of average and below average players.

The World Class tag should only be left for the very few players that are consistently churning out great stats season in season out. The likes of Aguero, KDB, Modric, Chielini, VVD, Ramos, Kante Neymar, Cavani Suarez, Ibrahimovich, De Gea, Lloris, Mbappe, Salah, etc led by Messi and Ronaldo who occupy the very Top.) won't class the likes of Pogba, Vardy, Auba, as World Class,they might be close but they ain't.

On the other hand. The word LEGENDARY IS RELATIVE! A player does not necessarily have to be world class to be a Legend. Even Green Forest FC(smiles) have their own Legends. Legendary status can be achieved via Loyalty, No of years of service, contribution etc. It can be attained either at club level or international level. Some players are lucky to have both. Bobby Charlton, Pirlo, Maradona, Pele etc

Morgan, Vardy, are Leicester Legends but not world class, Keshi, Mikel are Nigeria legends but not world class!

I hope this proposition and examples will help resolve various misconception and also save us from series of back and forth arguments.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by darkelf: 8:01pm On May 17, 2019
Barryseal:
They all could rot on the bench next season if they don't make the right choices.
I mean all three of them.
Exactly and this is something all three must spell out clearly in their negotiations-Regular first team football
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:07pm On May 17, 2019
tbaba1234:
Schalke and Lazio interested in Awoniyi

Osimhen moving to Ac Milan

Chuks getting interest all over the place..

Next season will be interesting depending on where these players decide to move.
Osimhen should not join ac Milan if Patrick cutrone is still there .
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Barryseal: 8:09pm On May 17, 2019
darkelf:
Exactly and this is something all three must spell out clearly in their negotiations-Regular first team football
Chukwueze could be the biggest looser of them all, being that he is the most talented young Nigerian player.
A Liverpool or Barcelona move will be a huge pointer that his handlers are not smart people.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:13pm On May 17, 2019
AIG07:
Hello house,

I think it is high time we all agree to a particular unit/system of measurement when it comes to certain issues like player rankings.

The words below average, average, above average, top player, excellent player, world class, legend etc should be well defined and where possible mathematically proofed/backed up.

Reason for this is simple.
I believe anyone who has grouped our players into classes has done so using his/her personal metrics which is based on their understanding and perception which might not be generally acceptable.

The rating done in football is often on scale of {0-10} or {0%-100%} which afford the no 5 and 50 to be average mark.

A pundit who uses 0-10scale can easily group players in to 5 classes {POOR(0-2.49), BELOW AVERAGE (2.50-4.99), AVERAGE(5), ABOVE AVERAGE(5.10-7.49) AND WORLD Class (7.5-10) while any one who uses just 1-3 or will likely have (BELOW AVERAGE, AVERAGE And WORLD Class) which is limited when the pool of players is much and wide.

If I were to use the 0-10 scale,

None of our players will make it to the World Class group. I repeat none. I'll place Ndidi in the 'top' of THE ABOVE AVERAGE group alongside Mikel, Iwobi slightly below them in the same group,
The rest bunch of average and below average players.

The World Class tag should only be left for the very few players that are consistently churning out great stats season in season out. The likes of Aguero, KDB, Modric, Chielini, VVD, Ramos, Kante Neymar, Cavani Suarez, Ibrahimovich, De Gea, Lloris, Mbappe, Salah, etc led by Messi and Ronaldo who occupy the very Top.) won't class the likes of Pogba, Vardy, Auba, as World Class,they might be close but they ain't.

On the other hand. The word LEGENDARY IS RELATIVE! A player does not necessarily have to be world class to be a Legend. Even Green Forest FC(smiles) have their own Legends. Legendary status can be achieved via Loyalty, No of years of service, contribution etc. It can be attained either at club level or international level. Some players are lucky to have both. Bobby Charlton, Pirlo, Maradona, Pele etc

Morgan, Vardy, are Leicester Legends but not world class, Keshi, Mikel are Nigeria legends but not world class!

I hope this proposition and examples will help resolve various misconception and also save us from series of back and forth arguments.
And you get mind no put pique there but you put people wey never tay for top football ?

I just hope you forget because you can't list everybody .

No busquets abi ?

Am waiting for your response to tell me that pique who has played top football in the past 10 years is average then vandijk and the new boys in top football is world class just because of this season form .

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:14pm On May 17, 2019
tbaba1234:
Chinonso Emeka
this one na model ooo fine boi for camp... safarigirl kind
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:16pm On May 17, 2019
Lukman Zakari (2015 under 17) attracting interest from Genk and Standard Liege in Belgium and some clubs in Poland.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:26pm On May 17, 2019
Awoniyi scores for R.E Mouscron.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Famocious(m): 8:36pm On May 17, 2019
Imoh Ezekiel with a goal for Kortrijk
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:45pm On May 17, 2019
Belgian League and Nigerian footballers are like 5&6..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 8:50pm On May 17, 2019
raindodger13:
Awoniyi scores for R.E Mouscron.
Forgiveness right now

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:01pm On May 17, 2019
grin grin cheesy cheesy������
R2bees:
Forgiveness right now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by isan(m): 9:02pm On May 17, 2019
awoniyi with a brace tonight
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Koboko99(m): 9:12pm On May 17, 2019
isan:
awoniyi with a brace tonight
Food is ready.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 9:14pm On May 17, 2019
elyte89:
Wc camp?... Deeper life camp? tongue
lol, redeem
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:37pm On May 17, 2019
tbaba1234:
As an attacking player...

It is far easier for attack minded players to win individual award especially when they play for big teams.

Defensive players have to settle for team of the week, month or year, If they are lucky.. Many of those positions are reserved for players in the big teams.
Any defensive player that make FIFA FIFPro World11 is world class.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:43pm On May 17, 2019
tbaba1234:
Chinonso Emeka
This one is a small boy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Nobody: 9:50pm On May 17, 2019
forgiveness:
This one is a small boy.
Yes he is.. He is one of the UK based boys
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:04pm On May 17, 2019
tbaba1234:
Yes he is.. He is one of the UK based boys
Hope the young boys do well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:20pm On May 17, 2019
isan:
awoniyi with a brace tonight
Now 14 goals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 10:43pm On May 17, 2019
forgiveness:
Now 14 goals.
He won't b called up still grin,if he likes let him score 40goals grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:54pm On May 17, 2019
elyte89:
Yea sure, dey re all top class players,now bring it down to what we av been saying since who can u c in any of our present Nigerian players bar Mikel dt can b considered as a top class/world class

Even for d Mikel,if not for trophies he achieved @chelsea...aw many of our players including Mikel have been considered for d top 30 world player of d year/balon d'or in last 10years....none and u want us to tag our player "world class",when FIFA don't even recognize dem undecided?
Makalele was of the highest quality but was not rated by FIFA for the Balon D'Or.

That is why I say World class has many criteria. If Ndidi does what he has done for the last three years continuously he will earn the World Class status.

It is not by Balon d'Or ratings but continuous high level performances. Playing at a high level for a long time.

With that, you can see Ndidi is top quality but needs to operate on this level for a long period of time to become World Class.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by elyte89: 10:59pm On May 17, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Makalele was of the highest quality but was not rated by FIFA for the Balon D'Or.

That is why I say World class has many criteria. If Ndidi does what he has done for the last three years continuously he will earn the World Class status.

It is not by Balon d'Or ratings but continuous high level performances. Playing at a high level for a long time.

With that, you can see Ndidi is top quality but needs to operate on this level for a long period of time to become World Class.
Are u sure makalele was not rated among d top 30 balon d',or contenders? And u av checked ur record well,I doubt... FIFA usually release a first 30-40 man list for balon d'or,den it would b prune down to 10 or 15,,den later 3


Am very certain makalele would av made such list

But am so sure in d last 15years,no Nigerian player has made d first 30 or 40 man balon d'or contender..and bros,if u re good ,u re good,if u churn out a consistent performance for a top club yearly,am sure FIFA won't b so biased not to list such a player,at least for d first 50


I can mention as many top class/world class player who make such list yearly,d likes of aguero,robben,ribery,pique,busquest,Buffon,de gea,Silva(Spain) etc....and so on,made d list for a very long time,some get drop when pruned to 10 or 15,wyle some gets drop when pruned to last 3

D question now is,in d last 10years,do we av such a player in eagles dt make d first 50 balon d'or, once? Let alone of yearly?

To me if u re not among dis category of players,I can't consider u as world class,when FIFA no consider u,so who I b?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:05pm On May 17, 2019
elyte89:
Are u sure makalele was not rated among d top 30 balon d',or contenders? And u av checked ur record well,I doubt... FIFA usually release a first 30-40 man list for balon d'or,den it would b prune down to 10 or 15,,den later 3
Might have been but never heard of that.

Either way, he is one of the greatest defensive midfielders ever to grace the game. To the point a tactical role was named after him.

Yes he got laurels playing for Real Madrid but hardly hard the glory.

However, from the likes of Makalele and Totti, one thing is constant. Top quality performances game after game. This is something that can be denied. Laurels can be, playing for a small club might be but top quality performances can't. Which is something Ndidi has done for about three years, which shows his is of a very high quality. He needs to continue this for some years to become World Class.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:06pm On May 17, 2019
elyte89:
He won't b called up still grin,if he likes let him score 40goals grin grin
He will be noticed by people that matters.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:06pm On May 17, 2019
elyte89:
Are u sure makalele was not rated among d top 30 balon d',or contenders? And u av checked ur record well,I doubt... FIFA usually release a first 30-40 man list for balon d'or,den it would b prune down to 10 or 15,,den later 3
Same with Mikel, he did his work as a shield of Chelsea's defence to perfection for a long period of time. Many might disagree but if you look through the microscope of my criteria, you will certainly agree Mikel is World Class.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by cc12(m): 11:17pm On May 17, 2019
It's a lie ,it's 11 goals


forgiveness:
Now 14 goals.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by cc12(m): 11:20pm On May 17, 2019
This is that of Victor Osimhen

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Afobear: 11:34pm On May 17, 2019
Joebie:
Don’t say average, say Afobear
Why call me to this Sunken place where all you old men do is drink beer and talk about your averageeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee frauds you calm players ? Is Iheanacho Nacho pigmouth still better than mbappe and a hybrid of Messi ,Cavani and Ronaldo ? Drunks
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