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advocate666:
Sex with a minor is rape.
I know your unholy religion has convinced you otherwise but it is still rape.

Aisha admitted he raped her when she was nine.

Early marriages was permitted during that time bro. Not only in Saudi Arabia. Some other part of the world. All his wives were all widows and none of them was virgin. My brother he did it legally. The parent of the child handed the girl to the prophet in marriage... So how is that a rape sir?

BabyApple:
Early marriages was permitted during that time bro. Not only in Saudi Arabia. Some other part of the world. All his wives were all widows and none of them was virgin. My brother he did it legally. The parent of the child handed the girl to the prophet in marriage... So how is that a rape sir?

All your justifications doesn't matter.

She was a child playing with dolls. It was pedofilia. It was rape.

advocate666:
All your justifications doesn't matter.

She was a child playing with dolls. It was pedofilia. It was rape.

If child marriage is illegal in your country, does it mean it is illegal in every other country around the world ?

BabyApple:
If child marriage is illegal in your country, does it mean it is illegal in every other country around the world ?

Will you drink camel's urine? Remeber it is legal and recommended by your pedofile prophet.

surah 27:29
And We bestowed on him Isaac
and Jacob , and We established
the PROPHETHOOD and the
Scripture among his SEED.
(Pickthall)

according to Muslims Muhammad PROPHETHOOD can be trace down to Ismael ( let forget the fact that it is not back by evidence) If Allah intended to include Ishmael , his name would be placed before Isaac as he was older than Isaac by about fourteen years. But as it can be noted, Surah 29:27 completely omits any reference to Ishmael.This raises some vital questions:
Why was the name of Ishmael left out completely at the most significant time when the lineage of the Prophethood was revealed in the Qur’an? Why was Ishmael totally ignored if he was as important as
Muslims claim him to be?

Cc BabyApple

advocate666:
Will you drink camel's urine? Remeber it is legal and recommended by your pedofile prophet.

Yes i will. I swear by Allah.

malvisguy212:
surah 27:29
And We bestowed on him Isaac
and Jacob , and We established
the PROPHETHOOD and the
Scripture among his SEED.
(Pickthall)

according to Muslims Muhammad PROPHETHOOD can be trace down to Ismael ( let forget the fact that it is not back by evidence) If Allah intended to include Ishmael , his name would be placed before Isaac as he was older than Isaac by about fourteen years. But as it can be noted, Surah 29:27 completely omits any reference to Ishmael.This raises some vital questions:
Why was the name of Ishmael left out completely at the most significant time when the lineage of the Prophethood was revealed in the Qur’an? Why was Ishmael totally ignored if he was as important as
Muslims claim him to be?

Cc BabyApple

Brother dont read Quran like story Book. The Quran wasn't revealed in one day.. Every revelation has a tafsir. There must be a reason why God did not mention his name. If it is needed God will.. Do you know that Jesus ( peace be upon him ) name is mentioned in the Quran than the prophet Muhammad ( Peace be Upon Him )

BabyApple:
Brother dont read Quran like story Book. The Quran wasn't revealed in one day.. Every revelation has a tafsir. There must be a reason why God did not mention his name. If it is needed God will.. Do you know that Jesus ( peace be upon him ) name is mentioned in the Quran than the prophet Muhammad ( Peace be Upon Him )

the declaration made in that verse is an EVERLASTING COVENANT . so what you type here is irrelevant. If Muhammad is a descendant of lshmael, then he cannot be a descendant of Isaac at the same
time. In fact, this is in harmony with the fulfillment of
the promise to Abraham in Genesis 17:21.

Genesis 17:21: “However,
my covenant I shall
establish with Isaac, whom
Sarah will bear to you at
this appointed time next
year.”

Why was there only one alleged prophet from the line of ishmael? Guess who that lone prophet was? Yes, it was Muhammad a non-Israelite. The rest, Moses, Samuel, Nathan, Elijah, Elisha, Hosea, Amos, Isaiah, Jonah, Joel,Jesus and many others , were all
Israelites. All these prophets were descendants of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob just as it is sworn in Surah 29:27. Why did all these prophets come from the line of Isaac, with the exception of Muhammad who descended from Ishmael? Why was Ishmael’s name left out at the most significant moment when the Qur’an revealed the lineage of the prophethood? Did not Allah know that his greatest prophet would be
born through the lineage of Ishmael?

Shepherd00:
Have you seen Vampires eating their own flesh and drinking their own blood?

Answer me and I will answer you.

No they don't, but they want others to drink their blood while they drink others

BabyApple:
There are so many misconception about Islam all over the world.. Please ask me anything you dont know about Islam because salvation is only through Islam not through being a Christian.

do you actually believe mohammed splitted the moon , he rode a winged horse to heaven.

BabyApple:
Brother nothing like Islamic heaven sir. Who am i to judge who is going to heaven or who is going to Hell. Who created those terrorist ? Is it not Allah? Who created those that terrorist killed is it not Allah?... I am not in the position to say this one or that one is going to hell or heaven. Lets leave everything for God to judge. But the bitter truth is that if anyone of them come out and repent and forsake their way ... Am not sorry to tell you that Allah may Forgive them and may decide to punish them... Its is left for Allah to decide their fate not me.. Because All Human are Allah property. If you steal my money and you go to Allah seeking for forgiveness , my brother walahi its not Allah that will forgive you.. You will have to come to me and seek for my forgiveness then Allah will forgive you... We all know it is illegal to commit adultery ... Who do 2 people that commit adultery offend? Is it not God. If they ask for forgiveness Allah will forgive them but if they die without seeking for forgiveness and they die associating partner with Allah... My brother .. We are allow to say it is Hell fire on the day of judgement.

Well it's seems you are condoning such actions and stating it doesn't have a defined consequence. Kicking against it isn't enough to stop Islamic extremists...That's why I needed to know just what the Islamic judgement would be like for this guys.It seems you are not sure either which means these people are justified in some way,hence their actions don't have definite eternal consequence.
In Christianity a murderer is deemed to be eternally damned if he/she dies without asking forgiveness.So a suicide bomber is given one ticket straight to hell. As you can see,there would be no uncertainty from a Christian follower when asked the question I just asked you.This makes me doubt how much effort is made to ensure these terrorists aren't justified in anyway.

I have nothing against the Islam and I've enjoyed learning a few things I didn't previously know about the religion. This was the defining moment tho. The neutral take you had makes me wonder if these people aren't condemned by their fellow Muslims and there's a support whether directly or indirectly for their violent mission.
I know not all Muslims are violent or wish death on everybody that isn't a follower.That's why I wanted to know more about the religion's views.I want to be certain it is a religion that prohibits to the highest degree violence of any nature or in the name of jihad.I'm definitely not convinced about that after your reply.

BabyApple:
My brother this is the question i have been waiting for.. Take a look at this verse of the Holy Quran.
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Quran 5:32

'' That was why We wrote for the Children of Israel that who ever killed a soul, except for a soul slain, or for sedition in the earth, it should be considered as though he had killed all mankind; and that who ever saved it should be regarded as though he had saved all mankind. '''' Our Messengers brought them proofs; then many of them thereafter commit excesses in the earth.:::::

My brother do you see the punishment of taking a soul unjustly.
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Islam doesn't teach violent. There are some verses of the Quran that sound violent but in actual fact they are not violent verse.. When we get there i will explain better.

This is the problem i have with religious people (especially Muslims). You never give a straight answer,you just quote verses and beat around the bush. If Islam doesn't support violence then explain all the violence and Genocide being perpetuated by millions of people who read the same Quran. Maybe you are the one misunderstanding it .

BabyApple:
I can only talk for myself sir. I dont know the level of knowledge of other Muslim but it is a major sin in Islam. There are 3 sins which God always Lay Emphasise on in Quran which is
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1. Association of Partner with Him.
2. Killing Innocent Soul for Unjust reason.
3. Fornication and Adultery...

It is mentioned in several verses of the quran. The problem is some people know but they dont work on their character and conduct or rather they lack knowledge of how God operate. Whats the question i didn't answer bro?

In reference to no. 2 Killing innocent soul for unjust reason: Please tell me, what and what count as unjust reason ?. Is an unbeliever an innocent soul?. please answer

hakeem4:
do you actually believe mohammed splitted the moon , he rode a winged horse to heaven.

Yes sir i believe he did it not with his power but by the will of Allah.

BabyApple:
If child marriage is illegal in your country, does it mean it is illegal in every other country around the world ?

Forget legal and illegal,the question is: is it right or wrong according to Islamic believe ??

avalon7:
In reference to no. 2 Killing innocent soul for unjust reason: Please tell me, what and what count as unjust reason ?. Is an unbeliever an innocent soul?. please answer

In Islam you are not allow to harm, cheat, mock , backbite an unbeliever, not to talk of killing them. No one has the right to take anyone soul in Islam except The High Authority ( Government ).

malvisguy212:
the declaration made in that verse is an EVERLASTING COVENANT . so what you type here is irrelevant. If Muhammad is a descendant of lshmael, then he cannot be a descendant of Isaac at the same
time. In fact, this is in harmony with the fulfillment of
the promise to Abraham in Genesis 17:21.

Genesis 17:21: “However,
my covenant I shall
establish with Isaac, whom
Sarah will bear to you at
this appointed time next
year.”

Why was there only one alleged prophet from the line of ishmael? Guess who that lone prophet was? Yes, it was Muhammad a non-Israelite. The rest, Moses, Samuel, Nathan, Elijah, Elisha, Hosea, Amos, Isaiah, Jonah, Joel,Jesus and many others , were all
Israelites. All these prophets were descendants of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob just as it is sworn in Surah 29:27. Why did all these prophets come from the line of Isaac, with the exception of Muhammad who descended from Ishmael? Why was Ishmael’s name left out at the most significant moment when the Qur’an revealed the lineage of the prophethood? Did not Allah know that his greatest prophet would be
born through the lineage of Ishmael?

My brother what do you want to do with is lineage or ancestor ? He has been sent with a clear message. Worship God alone. He never call people to come and worship him. This your argument is baseless.

BabyApple:
In Islam you are not allow to harm, cheat, mock , backbite an unbeliever, not to talk of killing them. No one has the right to take anyone soul in Islam except The High Authority ( Government ).

So the terrorist killing iinnocent people in the name of Allah are sinners and will go to hell. Yes or No?

avalon7:
This is the problem i have with religious people (especially Muslims). You never give a straight answer,you just quote verses and beat around the bush. If Islam doesn't support violence then explain all the violence and Genocide being perpetuated by millions of people who read the same Quran. Maybe you are the one misunderstanding it .

I have given proofs about the misconception that Islam doesn't support violent. Look brother.. These people are human , they have freewill , God has bestow them with brain , what they lack is understanding of Quran , they take Quran verses which was revealed during the time of the prophet out of Context to support their evil act.. That doesn't mean Allah support support violent. They will be brought to judgement by Allah not me and you... That is the owner of through day of judgment.

avalon7:
Forget legal and illegal,the question is: is it right or wrong according to Islamic believe ??

Sorry i dont have the knowledge so i can't give answer to what i dont have knowledge about.

BabyApple:
My brother what do you want to do with is lineage or ancestor ? He has been sent with a clear message. Worship God alone. He never call people to come and worship him. This your argument is baseless.

if the head is faulty what will become of the followers? his lineage is very important cause that's were the groundwork of the prophethood begin.

Surah 19:49: So, when he
had withdrawn from them
and that which they were
worshipping beside Allah.
We gave him Isaac and
Jacob. Each of them We
made a PROPHET.

Once again,we can note that Ishmael is not mention in the above Qur’anic verses, whereas recognition is given to both Isaac and Jacob. Why did not Allah include Ishmael in these verses since Muslims claim
that he is also a prophet of Allah?

avalon7:
So the terrorist killing iinnocent people in the name of Allah are sinners and will go to hell. Yes or No?

My Brother from Human perspective they are suppose to go to hell but is God human ? Telling you they will go to Hell when they are still Alive is not allow in Islam. Do you know what ? If they repent God will accept their repentance but he may choose to punish them or forgive them on the day of judgement so who am i to tell you what God has in plan for them. I am not God. Dont get me wrong. If one of them are your uncles , brothers , sisters, won't you pray to God to guide them out of that Terrorist line they are ?
It is not our duty as a Muslim to doom someone to Hell as long as the person is still alive.. There is still hope they can repent and if they do not they lets leave them to God to do the Judgment we are not allow to judge anyone.

BabyApple:
If child marriage is illegal in your country, does it mean it is illegal in every other country around the world ?

I never said it is illegal. I said it is evil.

BabyApple:
Yes sir i believe he did it not with his power but by the will of Allah.

you believe this in the 21st century ?

babyapple do you think believing in allah is more sensible than atheism ?

lepasharon:
No they don't, but they want others to drink their blood while they drink others

But Jesus ate his flesh and drank his blood. Do you have an idea of what you are saying?

Shepherd00:
But Jesus ate his flesh and drank his blood. Do you have an idea of what you are saying?

He told others to eat his flesh and drink his blood do YOU have any idea of What HE he is saying??

lepasharon:
He told others to eat his flesh and drink his blood do YOU have any idea of What HE he is saying??

Yes, He ate his flesh and drank his blood and we are eating his flesh and are drinking his blood.
now can you tell me if you can give your 6yrs old daughter to a 53yrs man to have sex with?

BabyApple:
My brother what do you want to do with is lineage or ancestor ? He has been sent with a clear message. Worship God alone. He never call people to come and worship him. This your argument is baseless.

If you worship allah alone, why does Muhammad come up in your prayers more than allah does?


Can you serve allah allah without Muhammad?

Shepherd00:
Yes, He ate his flesh and drank his blood and we are eating his flesh and are drinking his blood.
now can you tell me if you can give your 6yrs old daughter to a 53yrs man to have sex with?

And that doesn't sound a paganistic ritual to you?

hakeem4:
you believe this in the 21st century ?

is there anything impossible for God to do? Okay in this 21st Century , Lets assume human don advanced well.. With all the advanced in technology and all that please Show me anyone on earth that can create the smallest of ant and give it life. Then if you can't find it then you need to believe it when Allah say He will do something it will surely come to pass. By the will of God and the power of God, do you know that Jesus mold a bird from clay and give it life.. Will you believe ... It is in the Holy Quran. There are things you will understand and there are thing that is far beyond human knowledge. Weda you believe it or not. Allah spoke about it in the Quran so why won't i believe it.. If to say na Oyinbo people talk am you will believe but the one who created the heaven and earth spoke about it in the Quran and you doubt it..

hakeem4:
babyapple do you think believing in allah is more sensible than atheism ?

Yes why did you ask such question?