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One funny attitude of JWs is how you eat your cake and also want to have it.

You discard part of my post by removing them...why?

Barristter07:
John 3:38 established that at the point of been sent he was with the Father . so when it says God send his son, it refers to his pre human existence



While I was WITH the Father , does that ring a bell ?

If not because your brain is paining you...you'd not have said this!

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God,..."

Is it the Son that was with God?

I also asked you to show us where it was written that Son became flesh, you used style to boycot it and swept it under carpet.

What people see is a human being like them, The Word who became flesh is to be called The Son of God, if Jesus called God His Father, how do you expect Him to address people in reference to God?

The text never said WiLL BECOME SON OF GOD . as though he wasn't before, it says he shall be Called ... Compare with Isaiah 9:6 where it says the Child SHALL BE CALLED Mighty God , wonderful counselor '

Why He SHALL BE CALLED, if he was already Son before? You haven't answered this since I've been asking you...

Does that suggest Jesus wasn't wise enough before his coming to earth to be a wonderful counselor ?

To you Emusan, I ask: Does that imply he wasn't a Mighty God before coming on earth as well since it says Shall be called?

Firstly, why did you single out only Mighty God and not include Everlasting Father? You know the dubious act you play there because it'd contradict yourself and your doctrines.

Secondly, Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy about the feature Messiah, I don't need to stress myself here, all I'd do is just to quote some reputable Bible scholars:

"And his name shall be called — That is, he shall be: for the following particulars are not to be taken for a description of his proper name, but of his glorious nature and qualities;" Benson Commentary

"And his name shall be called - That is, his attributes shall be such as to make all these applications appropriate descriptions of his power and work." Barnes Commentary

"name … called—His essential characteristics shall be." Jemeison Fausset commentary

"His name shall be; for to be called in Scripture is off put for to be, as I have noted before on Isaiah 1:26, and oft elsewhere. But this is not to be taken for a description of his proper name, by which he should be commonly called, but of his glorious nature and qualities." Matthew Poole's commentary

"and his name shall be called Wonderful: not that he should be commonly called among men by this name, nor by any of the following; but that he should appear to be, or to have that in him, or to do what would sufficiently answer to this name, and to the rest:" Gill's Exposition

"his name shall be called] The name of the Messiah consists of a series of honorific titles, pertaining to Him in His kingly capacity and expressing mainly the qualities displayed in His government." Cambridge Bible for School

" His name shall be called. It is perhaps not very important whether we view what follows as one name or several. Isaiah does not really mean that the "Child" should bear as a name, or names, any of the expressions, but only that they should be truly applicable to him." Pulpit commentary

If you take your time to read the works of these people very well, you'd notice that they expressly talk about the person of the Messiah and never His preexistence.

You may then ask, why then this verse is usually being used by the Trinitarian to proof that Jesus is God?

The simple answer is, for Bible to applied title such as ETERNAL FATHER, MIGHTY God to the Messiah means He must be God.

And Luke 1:35 is a straight forward because the angel directed his message to THE THING Mary will give birth to.

That's why I keep asking you go and learn when the scripture is talking about Jesus before He came to earth and after.

Now let me quote this from your post:

Does that imply he wasn't a Mighty God before coming on earth

If not because you're a fraudster and dubious like your father devil, why didn't you include ETERNAL FATHER here

So, you agree Jesus has been an ETERNAL FATHER before coming to earth...

I have no issues with apostle Paul statement. It doesn't change the facts

You have issue because you've been shouting that it was Son, now apostle Paul says it is Christ Jesus.

Let me use this to round up my post with you...

Jesus said: "No one knoweth the Son except the Father" and also "I have a name written that no man knoweth except Himself"

So most times Bible is speaking about Jesus is solely applicable to His person in human form, only gives us a glimpse of who He actually is before His incarnation and only a well taught Bible student can see it not the ones Satan has blindfolded their eyes.

Jozzy4:
So how is this different from what I told you ?

there is big different. in that he demonstrated his power over the grave. He was even instrumental in effecting his own resurrection (Jn. 2:19). this can be only done by God.

Image123:
Good to have you reply once again. i am glad that you've copiously referred to different parts and passages in the Bible, therefore i want to believe and hope that we will not have problems with me doing likewise. i would WISH though that you'd quote the passages to emphasize their relevance to the discuss. Also, i hope that we avoid needless issues being raised, which will serve more as distractions and booby traps to the subject at hand. We are talking about being born again and going to heaven. There is presently no need distracting us with other issues that will cause contention.



Psa 115:16  The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.
Num_32:7  And wherefore discourage ye the heart of the children of Israel from going over into the land which the LORD hath given them?
1Sa_1:27  For this child I prayed; and the LORD hath given me my petition which I asked of him:
Ezr_1:2  Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.
Mat 28:18  And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.  

From the above scriptures i just quoted, i think we would be overstretching things to conclude that God never create humans for heavenly life, simply because a verse said the earth has being given to men. God giving you something does not mean that is the limit or end or permanence. As Bible readers, we both know that God has given rest to Israel, gave land to Israel but they later lost it, then got some later, more later, lose some, lose all, and on and on. Secondly, i quoted Hannah whom God gave Samuel. Of course, we do not say God never gave her other children. Cyrus was given kingdoms by God, but it was in no way permanent. Again, my point is straightforward, it is a far-stretch to conclude that God limited man by giving him earth.



On these we are largely agreed except for few parts that have nothing to do with what we are talking about, but i'll pass.



i like the bolded part " the invitation blown open to other races. So your understanding is that few humans from different races are going to heaven, fair. But why do you think you are not among this few? What do you think is the criteria for this few? Do you know this few?



"to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father. And when the ten heard it, they were moved with indignation against the two brethren."
Sitting on the left hand and right hand of Jesus are two physical positions as the two disciples, their mother and the Ten remaining disciples clearly saw it. Except you are assuming only two humans are going to heaven, there is no need to bring up this scripture here. Jesus said to Nicodemus, "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again".
There is nothing in that passage suggesting that He was referring to a few people's needs. He called it a MUST. 



Again, to get or inherit or be given something does not exclude having other things. If for instance, you inherit your predecessor or whoever's car, that does not mean that is all you are forever limited to. Inheriting the earth is not a limitation but a promise. Man inheriting the earth which he was given but later lost is a promise. But there remains more promises in the Bible of things God wants to give His children.
Joh 10:16  And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

If the other sheep here is who is going to heaven, having heavenly hope, and Jesus said the 12 disciples are not part of this fold, then you say JWs are not part of the fold. So who are these people?

Four questions!
{1} Why do we think we are not of these FEW? It's like you hurriedly read my response without meditation!
Answer~ God's original purpose is for humans to live forever on earth, NOT in heaven! Genesis 2:15-17
{2} What is the criteria for the few?
Answer~ It's the same criteria for all Christians,out which God will choose 144,000! So NO prophet is qualified for heaven apart from Christians who are baptised. And they'll also be baptised with holy spirit! John 3:5
{3} Do you know this few?
Answer~ There is no just one way to know them, because they MUST not brag about it nor make any public gesture. So it's just one occasion that's inevitable that exposes them! 1Corinthians 11:27-30
During this occasion they can't hide their identity but without it they will NEVER tell you they're born again!
{4} Jesus' main purpose of coming is to fetch for his corulers[Matthew 15:24] So they're just 144,000{FEW} humans who must become born again[John 3:3 ]
The other sheep comprises of countless faithful humans who had the original prospect of living forever ON EARTH like Abel to Christians{who aren't born again}
Just only the FEW[144,000 including the 12 Apostles] that will rule with Christ and they are the born agains who are GOING TO HEAVEN!

Emusan:
One funny attitude of JWs is how you eat your cake and also want to have it.

You discard part of my post by removing them...why?



If not because your brain is paining you...you'd not have said this!

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God,..."

Is it the Son that was with God?

I also asked you to show us where it was written that Son became flesh, you used style to boycot it and swept it under carpet.

What people see is a human being like them, The Word who became flesh is to be called The Son of God, if Jesus called God His Father, how do you expect Him to address people in reference to God?



Why He SHALL BE CALLED, if he was already Son before? You haven't answered this since I've been asking you...



Firstly, why did you single out only Mighty God and not include Everlasting Father? You know the dubious act you play there because it'd contradict yourself and your doctrines.

Secondly, Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy about the feature Messiah, I don't need to stress myself here, all I'd do is just to quote some reputable Bible scholars:

"And his name shall be called — That is, he shall be: for the following particulars are not to be taken for a description of his proper name, but of his glorious nature and qualities;" Benson Commentary

"And his name shall be called - That is, his attributes shall be such as to make all these applications appropriate descriptions of his power and work." Barnes Commentary

"name … called—His essential characteristics shall be." Jemeison Fausset commentary

"His name shall be; for to be called in Scripture is off put for to be, as I have noted before on Isaiah 1:26, and oft elsewhere. But this is not to be taken for a description of his proper name, by which he should be commonly called, but of his glorious nature and qualities." Matthew Poole's commentary

"and his name shall be called Wonderful: not that he should be commonly called among men by this name, nor by any of the following; but that he should appear to be, or to have that in him, or to do what would sufficiently answer to this name, and to the rest:" Gill's Exposition

"his name shall be called] The name of the Messiah consists of a series of honorific titles, pertaining to Him in His kingly capacity and expressing mainly the qualities displayed in His government." Cambridge Bible for School

" His name shall be called. It is perhaps not very important whether we view what follows as one name or several. Isaiah does not really mean that the "Child" should bear as a name, or names, any of the expressions, but only that they should be truly applicable to him." Pulpit commentary

If you take your time to read the works of these people very well, you'd notice that they expressly talk about the person of the Messiah and never His preexistence.

You may then ask, why then this verse is usually being used by the Trinitarian to proof that Jesus is God?


The simple answer is, for Bible to applied title such as ETERNAL FATHER, MIGHTY God to the Messiah means He must be God.


And Luke 1:35 is a straight forward because the angel directed his message to THE THING Mary will give birth to.

That's why I keep asking you go and learn when the scripture is talking about Jesus before He came to earth and after.

Now let me quote this from your post:

If not because you're a fraudster and dubious like your father devil, why didn't you include ETERNAL FATHER here

So, you agree Jesus has been an ETERNAL FATHER before coming to earth...



You have issue because you've been shouting that it was Son, now apostle Paul says it is Christ Jesus.

Let me use this to round up my post with you...

Jesus said: "No one knoweth the Son except the Father" and also "I have a name written that no man knoweth except Himself"

So most times Bible is speaking about Jesus is solely applicable to His person in human form, only gives us a glimpse of who He actually is before His incarnation and only a well taught Bible student can see it not the ones Satan has blindfolded their eyes.

@brown, And Isaiah wasn't directed to the child Mary will give birth to ?

The SUPER Question @ Highlighted with emphasis on your statement " He must be God " , Has he always been God ? Or only became God at his birth ?

Barristter07:
Kindly Explain Revelation 3:14 . Is Jesus the beginning of Gods creation ?

do you know that the greak word found in Revelation 3:14 beginning is
" arche" and is related to the greak word found in Hebrews 12:2 is "archegos" meaning AUTHOR or LEADER. this is in harmony with John 1:3 which say THROUGH HIM all things were MADE;

meaning Christ Is the BEGINNER. He is the source
of it all. All of Creation came from Him (Col.1:16). He is the beginning of God's creation. He began it all. He started it all. All of God's creation owes its origin to Jesus Christ.

malvisguy212:
do you know that the greak word found in Revelation 3:14 beginning is
" arche" and is related to the greak word found in Hebrews 12:2 is "archegos" meaning AUTHOR or LEADER. this is in harmony with John 1:3 which say THROUGH HIM all things were MADE;

Arche is no longer beginning right ?

meaning Christ Is the BEGINNER. He is the source
of it all. All of Creation came from Him (Col.1:16). He is the beginning of God's creation. He began it all. He started it all. All of God's creation owes its origin to Jesus Christ.

" FROM him " , Provide a scripture that says this !!

Or else your source argument is going straight to the dustbin.

Provide your evidence that all things CAME FROM him

asalimpo:
this blatantly lying comment. As a jw,you will go to any length to deny the diety of Jesus including changing the scriptures without justification.
At least b honest about your stance. There is no way, you can read that verse and come to the conclusion you are trying to derive.
The mere whiff of man thinking he is equal to God is ludacriss and never crossed the minds of the people the letter was written to. When were the philipians afflicted with such megalomania?

Well we must have the same mind of Christ

Does that now mean Jesus is not equal to God ?

Emusan:
One funny attitude of JWs is how you eat your cake and also want to have it.

You discard part of my post by removing them...why?



If not because your brain is paining you...you'd not have said this!

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was WITH God,..."

Is it the Son that was with God?

I also asked you to show us where it was written that Son became flesh, you used style to boycot it and swept it under carpet.

What people see is a human being like them, The Word who became flesh is to be called The Son of God, if Jesus called God His Father, how do you expect Him to address people in reference to God?



Why He SHALL BE CALLED, if he was already Son before? You haven't answered this since I've been asking you...



Firstly, why did you single out only Mighty God and not include Everlasting Father? You know the dubious act you play there because it'd contradict yourself and your doctrines.

Secondly, Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy about the feature Messiah, I don't need to stress myself here, all I'd do is just to quote some reputable Bible scholars:

"And his name shall be called — That is, he shall be: for the following particulars are not to be taken for a description of his proper name, but of his glorious nature and qualities;" Benson Commentary

"And his name shall be called - That is, his attributes shall be such as to make all these applications appropriate descriptions of his power and work." Barnes Commentary

"name … called—His essential characteristics shall be." Jemeison Fausset commentary

"His name shall be; for to be called in Scripture is off put for to be, as I have noted before on Isaiah 1:26, and oft elsewhere. But this is not to be taken for a description of his proper name, by which he should be commonly called, but of his glorious nature and qualities." Matthew Poole's commentary

"and his name shall be called Wonderful: not that he should be commonly called among men by this name, nor by any of the following; but that he should appear to be, or to have that in him, or to do what would sufficiently answer to this name, and to the rest:" Gill's Exposition

"his name shall be called] The name of the Messiah consists of a series of honorific titles, pertaining to Him in His kingly capacity and expressing mainly the qualities displayed in His government." Cambridge Bible for School

" His name shall be called. It is perhaps not very important whether we view what follows as one name or several. Isaiah does not really mean that the "Child" should bear as a name, or names, any of the expressions, but only that they should be truly applicable to him." Pulpit commentary

If you take your time to read the works of these people very well, you'd notice that they expressly talk about the person of the Messiah and never His preexistence.

You may then ask, why then this verse is usually being used by the Trinitarian to proof that Jesus is God?

The simple answer is, for Bible to applied title such as ETERNAL FATHER, MIGHTY God to the Messiah means He must be God.

And Luke 1:35 is a straight forward because the angel directed his message to THE THING Mary will give birth to.

That's why I keep asking you go and learn when the scripture is talking about Jesus before He came to earth and after.

Now let me quote this from your post:

If not because you're a fraudster and dubious like your father devil, why didn't you include ETERNAL FATHER here

So, you agree Jesus has been an ETERNAL FATHER before coming to earth...



You have issue because you've been shouting that it was Son, now apostle Paul says it is Christ Jesus.

Let me use this to round up my post with you...


Jesus said: "No one knoweth the Son except the Father" and also "I have a name written that no man knoweth except Himself"


So most times Bible is speaking about Jesus is solely applicable to His person in human form, only gives us a glimpse of who He actually is before His incarnation and only a well taught Bible student can see it not the ones Satan has blindfolded their eyes.

Loooooooollllzzzzzz
See what Emusan went through to justify to try and justify his lie that Christ isn't the son of God before his birth. And it says no one knoweth the Father except the son, How could this be if his sonship only begin on earth ?

Barristter07:
Arche is no longer beginning right ?



" FROM him " , Provide a scripture that says this !!

Or else your source argument is going straight to the dustbin.

Provide your evidence that all things CAME FROM him

if I say were is the beginning of the river Niger ? were is the source ? were did it came from ? all of God's creation (with the exception of Jesus Christ) came through Jesus Christ. John 1:3 - Through him all things were made;

malvisguy212:
if I say were is the beginning of the river Niger ? were is the source ? were did it came from ? all of God's creation (with the exception of Jesus Christ) came through Jesus Christ. John 1:3 - Through him all things were made;

Through is an agent not source Mr . so u can't support your claim

anyway the person you quote go reply una

Image123:
He refused indeed, there must be another meaning for refusal. What's our business with whether he is a new convert or a patron convert, whose business?
Me i asked na, but you Did not ANSWER EACH PERSON in my case. I heard that you guys are not interested in being born again or going to heaven. That's awesome. Is it true?

Yes! I'm not interested in going to heaven because it's not NATURAL! Those going there will no more live in the flesh but in spirit! So how am i going to cope with such a life of none physical things?
Of course God will not include me in such a prospect because i am PHYSICAL and i LOVE physical life!
I love life to be real and appealing NOT what i'm not used to.
Just imagine this!

Maximus69:
Yes! I'm not interested in going to heaven because it's not NATURAL! Those going there will no more live in the flesh but in spirit! So how am i going to cope with such a life of none physical things?
Of course God will not include me in such a prospect because i am PHYSICAL and i LOVE physical life!
Just imagine this!

That's not Trivina's hand!
I know she has beautiful sexy looking nails but not so bright in complexion!

TATIME:
That's not Trivina's hand!
I know she has beautiful sexy looking nails but not so bright in complexion!

Good evening Sir!
How's the holidays?
Yes, it's not Trivina's but i just love nails and she knows that's what i'm attracted to!

Maximus69:
Yes! I'm not interested in going to heaven

false jw max
of course only satans mob would not be interisted in going to heaven-to God's home

Maximus69: because it's not NATURAL! Those going there will no more live in the flesh but in spirit!

God is a Spirit, He existed when nothing else did, everything else He created,
He lives in heaven, yet you evil max don't like heaven because those going there will live in spirit,
like God does

Maximus69: So how am i going to cope with such a life of none physical things?
Of course God will not include me in such a prospect because i am PHYSICAL and i LOVE physical life!
I love life to be real and appealing NOT what i'm not used to.

evil false jw max, you believe life with God in heaven would not be real
and it doesn't appeal to you, of course it wouldn't appeal to satans mob

Maximus69: Just imagine this!

a devils disciplle cannot imagine anything nice about heaven
buy imagines long red finger nails, you false jw's sure are queer

you don't love heavenly things but you love earthly things like food
and apparently long red finger nails
you love the physical, you love the world and are of the world

Php 3:18  (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 
Php 3:19  Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) 
Php 3:20  For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 
Php 3:21  Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself. 

Maximus69: Yes! I'm not interested in going to heaven because it's not NATURAL! Those going there will no more live in the flesh but in spirit!

1Co_2:14  But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

^ describes you exactly

1Jn_2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Eph_2:3  Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Jesus is both YAHWEH and Elohim in isaiah

in isaiah, john the baptist said to make straight the way of the LORD(YAHWEH)
in john, john the baptist said to make straight the way of the Lord(Jesus Christ)

Isa 40:3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD(YAHWEH), make straight in the desert a highway for our God(elohim).

Joh 1:23  He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord(Jesus Christ), as said the prophet Esaias.

Maximus69:
Good evening Sir!
How's the holidays?
Yes, it's not Trivina's but i just love nails and she knows that's what i'm attracted to!

attracted to nails but not to heaven
false jw's queer like anything

johnw47:
attracted to nails but not to heaven
false jw's queer like anything

I'm NATURALLY created for earth Sir! Psalms 115:16
This is my home and when you've gone to heaven i will continue to enjoy the gift of God called LIFE on earth! Psalms 37:9-11,29 Proverbs 2:20-22, Isaiah 65:21-23, Matthew 5:5
I know your Pastors have told you that our earth will be burnt but you can keep such thoughts in your brains, but when God is tired of his wonderful design your Pastors will advise him to burn it up! Psalms 78:69, 104:5, 119:90, Ecclesiastes 1:4,
So farewell heavenly man you can start going to heaven now so that earthly men like me can enjoy all that he created here for our everlasting bliss! Revelations 14:6-7

TATIME:
The TRINITY was foreseen in the Bible book of Revelations as Babylon the great! Rev 17:5
Called Mystery because it had several children born to different fathers they defines her in varying ways. 17:15
The children all have different norms just as each father gives contradicting rules. 17:4
The children are confused in their midst so they hate TRUE Christians for preaching in harmony! 17:5-6
It's children can't unite due to difference in fathers so they are called waterS! 17:15 compared to Isaiah 57:20


Jehovah's Witnesses on the other hand are born by another woman {12:1-2} our own father {Jehovah} is one so no matter where you can find us we speak with one accord! Deuteronomy 6:4-6
The first born of our family is Jesus{12:5 compared to Isaiah 9:6} Our mother born chieftains after Jesus so her crown had TWELVE stars{12:1-2, 21:14}
Babylon the Great and our mother are perpetual enemies from the Beginning{Genesis 3:15} so her Children are always looking forward to kill us! John 8:38-41 compared to Revelations 12:17
That is why all of them are parading TRINITY but they can never be united as one happy family like Jehovah's Witnesses whose God is ONE JEHOVAH! Mark 12:29-31

Hmmm,
No wonder they're confused about the IDENTITY of their God{father}!
If you ask them 'what is the name of your God?' they can't give a specific name! Whereas Jesus the first born while quoting the scripture pointedly said 'Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah!' Mark 12:29, Deuteronomy 6:4
There TRINITY couldn't even unite them as one family since their fathers differs! Revelations 17:2
So their REAL God's are their earthly RULERS in whom they trust for a brighter future! No wonder they keep running out to cast their votes for their Gods in whom they TRUST! Psalms 82:1,6
TRINITY have failed to present one single father for them in order for them to be ORGANISED under one umbrella! Revelations 17:15
Hmmm, Jesus said the beast{Politicians} will turn againt TRINITY and burn {destroy} her forever because she couldn't give them ORDERLY children! Revelations 17:16
Thanks for this write up brother,i have screenshot everything for future references, God bless you!

Maximus69:
I'm NATURALLY created for earth Sir! Psalms 115:16
This is my home and when you've gone to heaven i will continue to enjoy the gift of God called LIFE on earth! Psalms 37:9-11,29 Proverbs 2:20-22, Isaiah 65:21-23, Matthew 5:5

lying pharisee false jw max
you constantly fool yourself and are being fooled,
your eventual destiny will be with your god in the lake of fire

Rev_20:10  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Maximus69: I know your Pastors have told you that our earth will be burnt but you can keep such thoughts in your brains, but when God is tired of his wonderful design your Pastors will advise him to burn it up! Psalms 78:69, 104:5, 119:90, Ecclesiastes 1:4,

i have said before that i don't have pastors and never have had
but you false jw of course cannot stop lying taking after your god that you will join in the lof

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69: So farewell heavenly man you can start going to heaven now so that earthly men like me can enjoy all that he created here for our everlasting bliss! Revelations 14:6-7

like i said in reply to your rot: "only satans mob would not be interisted in going to heaven-to God's home"
like i said: "you evil max don't like heaven because those going there will live in spirit,
like God does"
like i said: "you believe life with God in heaven would not be real
and it doesn't appeal to you, of course it wouldn't appeal to satans mob"
like i said: "a devils disciplle cannot imagine anything nice about heaven
buy imagines long red finger nails, you false jw's sure are queer"

Php 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Php 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

one of the first thing the Holy Spirit does in a christian of faith is to have him stop lying.

what satan does in the life of a false jw is to have him lie habitually, like he does

and we see that so very prolifically in false jw's

johnw47:
lying pharisee false jw max
you constantly fool yourself and are being fooled,
your eventual destiny will be with your god in the lake of fire

Rev_20:10  And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.



i have said before that i don't have pastors and never have had
but you false jw of course cannot stop lying taking after your god that you will join in the lof

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.



like i said in reply to your rot: "only satans mob would not be interisted in going to heaven-to God's home"
like i said: "you evil max don't like heaven because those going there will live in spirit,
like God does"
like i said: "you believe life with God in heaven would not be real
and it doesn't appeal to you, of course it wouldn't appeal to satans mob"
like i said: "a devils disciplle cannot imagine anything nice about heaven
buy imagines long red finger nails, you false jw's sure are queer"

Php 3:18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
Php 3:19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

Farewell heavenly man!
So what are you still doing here? The last time i checked, it's like heaven is not where people chat on social media with earthly man nah!

Maximus69:
Farewell heavenly man!
So what are you still doing here? The last time i checked, it's like heaven is not where people chat on social media with earthly man nah!

Are you still responding to that primitive churchgoer?
He is so dumb that he couldn't just grab anything sensible again.
He claims there is no pastor teaching him but his brains is full of all those junks the pastors are downloading in the empty skulls of their victims!
Ordinary simple logic eludes his sensibility, yet he feels like judging those who aren't dumb like him.
The only thing he knows is abuse, insult, curse and judgmental in everything, just watch out and see how stupid he will respond now without any single thing to impact!
I know his type, they're (Heaven is REAL, Hell is REAL) preachers with nothing in their brains to teach!

Maximus69:
Farewell heavenly man!
So what are you still doing here? The last time i checked, it's like heaven is not where people chat on social media with earthly man nah!

^ false jw max, queer as can be and getting queerer by the post

TATIME:
Are you still responding to that primitive churchgoer?
He is so dumb that he couldn't just grab anything sensible again.
He claims there is no pastor teaching him but his brains is full of all those junks the pastors are downloading in the empty skulls of their victims!
Ordinary simple logic eludes his sensibility, yet he feels like judging those who aren't dumb like him.
The only thing he knows is abuse, insult, curse and judgmental in everything, just watch out and see how stupid he will respond now without any single thing to impact!
I know his type, they're (Heaven is REAL, Hell is REAL) preachers with nothing in their brains to teach!

garbage man false jw tatime
what a lot of rot, and you know i don't have a denomination
but you and max cannot stop lying for a moment, just like your god the devil

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

TATIME:




The only thing he knows is abuse, insult, curse and judgmental

the truth is what it is, but you of course know nothing about that, oh lies without end tatime

johnw47:
^ false jw max, queer as can be and getting queerer by the post




garbage man false jw tatime
what a lot of rot, and you know i don't have a denomination
but you and max cannot stop lying for a moment, just like your god the devil

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

As usual!
Maximus, please take note!

TATIME:
As usual!
Maximus, please take note!

Hmmm,
I just pity the poor old man!
A careful study of all his posts will reveal to you that he is hungry and sad!
All his youth life he had spent following the Pastors and now he couldn't afford for himself a comfortable life so he is angry towards everyone. That's why he feels like going to heaven at least to leave all his worries behind!
Poor old guy, i just feel like knowing him personally to assist him at least to make him feel life isn't worthless as it had turned on him!

TATIME:
As usual!
Maximus, please take note!

garbage man false jw tatime

of course it's the truth from me as usual, and lies from you as usual

Maximus69:
Hmmm,
I just pity the poor old man!

lie number one

Maximus69: A careful study of all his posts will reveal to you that he is hungry and sad!

lie number two

Maximus69: All his youth life he had spent following the Pastors

lie number three

Maximus69: and now he couldn't afford for himself a comfortable life so he is angry towards everyone.

lie number four

Maximus69: That's why he feels like going to heaven at least to leave all his worries behind!

lie number five

Maximus69: Poor old guy, i just feel like knowing him personally to assist him at least to make him feel life isn't worthless as it had turned on him!

lie number six

ha ha so many lies in such a short post, every point a lie
you false jw's certinally do glory in your lies, like your daddy does

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Maximus69:
Hmmm,
I just pity the poor old man!
A careful study of all his posts will reveal to you that he is hungry and sad!
All his youth life he had spent following the Pastors and now he couldn't afford for himself a comfortable life so he is angry towards everyone. That's why he feels like going to heaven at least to leave all his worries behind!
Poor old guy, i just feel like knowing him personally to assist him at least to make him feel life isn't worthless as it had turned on him!

That's true my brother!
You know i always admire your intelligence due to your thoughtfulness.
You're right, men like him surely can't afford to have a woman going for manicure as all they can do is just to fetch for food!
So whenever they come across beautiful and classy women, they're saddened at the looks of beautiful hairs, shoes, jewelries,stylish makeovers and well punished nails!
Hmmmmmmmmmm, they can't just afford all that as the woman at home is either washing or doing other tedious house chores which won't allow her to take good care of herself!
No wonder he's so possessed with that their imaginary Hellfire, as he feels whoever is enjoying life now should be tormented forever and ever!
Now i know he needed to be pitied NOT scold!

johnw47:
garbage man false jw tatime
of course it's the truth from me as usual, and lies from you as usual
lie number one
lie number two
lie number three
lie number four
lie number five
lie number six
ha ha so many lies in such a short post, every point a lie
you false jw's certinally do glory in your lies, like your daddy does
Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Sorry Sir!
But please let's be frank with ourselves, can you take GOOD CARE of any of these beautiful damsels?

TATIME:
That's true my brother!
You know i always admire your intelligence due to your thoughtfulness.
You're right, men like him surely can't afford to have a woman going for manicure as all they can do is just to fetch for food!
So whenever they come across beautiful and classy women, they're saddened at the looks of beautiful hairs, shoes, jewelries,stylish makeovers and well punished nails!
Hmmmmmmmmmm, they can't just afford all that as the woman at home is either washing or doing other tedious house chores which won't allow her to take good care of herself!
No wonder he's so possessed with that their imaginary Hellfire, as he feels whoever is enjoying life now should be tormented forever and ever!
Now i know he needed to be pitied NOT scold!

laugh, garbage man false jw tatime

your reply to mad max post of lies is "That's true my brother"

lies without end tatime

and of course the rest of your post is your usual lies and garbage


Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

^ Jesus talking of your fore fathers and you, todays false jw's

Maximus69:
Sorry Sir!
But please let's be frank with ourselves, can you take GOOD CARE of any of these beautiful damsels?

the typical nonsense of lying pharisee false jw mad max

beautiful? are they women or drag queens

or false jw's

johnw47:
the typical nonsense of lying pharisee false jw mad max

beautiful? are they women or drag queens

or false jw's

Well if you truly care to know, they're my sisters from Brazil! Of course they are Jehovah's Witnesses!