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Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Nobody: 3:44pm On May 31, 2019
johnw47:
the typical nonsense of lying pharisee false jw mad max

beautiful? are they women or drag queens

or false jw's
But you never answered the question!
Can you afford to take GOOD CARE of a beautiful lady like one of them?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Emusan(m): 5:26pm On May 31, 2019
Barristter07:
@brown, And Isaiah wasn't directed to the child Mary will give birth to ? grin grin grin grin

The SUPER Question @ Highlighted with emphasis on your statement " He must be God " , Has he always been God ? Or only became God at his birth ?
After all my explanations you still couldn't grab it...na wa for you oooo

Now you're not after he was WITH THE FATHER...

Isaiah was about the child read it again...

The word of God became man...how does this hard for you to grabhuh
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 11:36pm On May 31, 2019
TATIME:
Well if you truly care to know, they're my sisters from Brazil! Of course they are Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
garbage man false jw tatime
i knew they looked false, like drag queens, they do really, look again, ha ha
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47:
Maximus69:
But you never answered the question!
Can you afford to take GOOD CARE of a beautiful lady like one of them?
lying pharisee false jw max

they are neither beautiful, nor would i take care of satans mob

look again at their faces, they do look like drag queens smiley

i hear they are common in brazil
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47:
lying pharisee false jw maxine

i have pic of coloured long fingernails for you
i know how you love them

Maximus69:
i just love nails .. that's what i'm attracted to! smiley
V gay colors of the rainbow cheesy

Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 12:34am On Jun 01, 2019
when a jailer asked paul and silas how to be saved, they said: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house"

After the jailer believed and became saved, he "rejoiced, believing in God with all his house"


Act 16:31  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 

Act 16:34  And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them, and rejoiced, believing in God with all his house.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Jozzy4: 12:38am On Jun 01, 2019
Emusan:
After all my explanations you still couldn't grab it...na wa for you oooo

Now you're not after he was WITH THE FATHER...

Isaiah was about the child read it again...

The word of God became man...how does this hard for you to grabhuh
Mr answer his question and stop per ambulating - , Is Luke 1:35 not also about the child ?

It says the child shall be called Mighty God , Has he always been God or just God at the moment he was born ?
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Barristter07: 1:07am On Jun 01, 2019
malvisguy212:
if I say were is the beginning of the river Niger ? were is the source ? were did it came from ? all of God's creation (with the exception of Jesus Christ) came through Jesus Christ. John 1:3 - Through him all things were made;
@malvisguy212

Good morning.

Let me draw your attention to the fact that your earlier statement reads "
meaning Christ Is the BEGINNER. He is the source of it all. All of Creation came from Him (Col.1:16) "
- Malvisguy212

This you did to cancel out the KJV usage of " Beginning " at Revelation 3:14 which automatically make Christ a creation But you said source is more correct.

To substantiate your claim that he is the source, You added the bold, which I demand for a scriptural proof.

From your response above you wrote " came THROUGH Jesus Christ " . My strong objection to this is Through is not the same as CAME FROM .

There fore, You actually shifted like shadows in your response .


Do you now agree Jesus is not the Source ? Don't forget objection to this will demand you provide proof of where it's stated that all things CAME from him.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Barristter07: 1:14am On Jun 01, 2019
Emusan:
After all my explanations you still couldn't grab it...na wa for you oooo

Now you're not after he was WITH THE FATHER...


Isaiah was about the child read it again...


The word of God became man...how does this hard for you to grabhuh
Just as Luke 1:35 was about the child. .

Don't forget your burden of proof rest on the statement " SHALL BE CALLED " Son of God. Which you said in your opinion means He wasn't Son of God before his birth. Despite it never says Will become .

At Isaiah 9:6 we saw the same expression " SHALL BE CALLED " Mighty God . Using the same logic, Does this not mean he wasn't a Mighty God before his birth emphasis on " Shall be called " ? That's what am asking you
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Barristter07: 1:15am On Jun 01, 2019
Jozzy4:
Mr answer his question and stop per ambulating - , Is Luke 1:35 not also about the child ?

It says the child shall be called Mighty God , Has he always been God or just God at the moment he was born ?
Exactly.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 3:02am On Jun 01, 2019
as the creator of all things, Jesus Himself of course must be uncreated

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 5:36am On Jun 01, 2019
TATIME:
That's true my brother!
You know i always admire your intelligence due to your thoughtfulness.
1 You're right, men like him surely can't afford to have a woman going for manicure
2 as all they can do is just to fetch for food! undecided undecided undecided
3 So whenever they come across beautiful and classy women, they're saddened at the looks of beautiful hairs, shoes, jewelries,stylish makeovers and well punished nails!
4 Hmmmmmmmmmm, they can't just afford all that
5 as the woman at home is either washing or doing other tedious house chores which won't allow her to take good care of herself!
6 No wonder he's so possessed with that their imaginary Hellfire,
7 as he feels whoever is enjoying life now should be tormented forever and ever! embarassed embarassed embarassed
8 Now i know he needed to be pitied NOT scold! huh huh huh
christans are persecuted with lies from those of the world,
just like their daddy lies toward us before God

Rev 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 5:40am On Jun 01, 2019
TATIME:
You're right, men like him surely can't afford to have a woman going for manicure
again just for this post alone
lie number one

TATIME: as all they can do is just to fetch for food! undecided undecided undecided
lie number two

TATIME: So whenever they come across beautiful and classy women, they're saddened at the looks of beautiful hairs, shoes, jewelries,stylish makeovers and well punished nails!
lie number three

TATIME: Hmmmmmmmmmm, they can't just afford all that
lie number four

TATIME: as the woman at home is either washing or doing other tedious house chores which won't allow her to take good care of herself!
lie number five

TATIME: No wonder he's so possessed with that their imaginary Hellfire,
lie number six

TATIME: as he feels whoever is enjoying life now should be tormented forever and ever! embarassed embarassed embarassed
lie number seven

TATIME: Now i know he needed to be pitied NOT scold! huh huh huh
lie number eight



false jw's garbage man tatime and lying pharisee mad maxine, you are both so entrenched in lies, you even purposely make up lies, just like your daddy

Rev 12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

you believe you are saved, yet liars don't make God's Kingdom
talk about being blinded

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 5:56am On Jun 01, 2019
VVV re the false doctrines and lies of false jw's as per this thread

Jehovah's Witnesses: The Religion that Lies to 8 Million People
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 6:53am On Jun 01, 2019
God tells us that all liars will be thrown into the lake of fire
and christians believe God

false jw church men tell false jw's that it's ok to lie
and false jw's believe them

and you false jw tatime brag about having high intellect and reasoning, ha ha ha

1Jn_2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

see your final destiny
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Nobody: 7:07am On Jun 01, 2019
johnw47:
God tells us that all liars will be thrown into the lake of fire
and christians believe God

false jw church men tell false jw's that it's ok to lie
and false jw's believe them

and you false jw tatime brag about having high intellect and reasoning, ha ha ha

1Jn_2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

see your final destiny
Sorry for your life and condition Sir!
Take heart, it just one of those things.
Life is meant to be taken with care and vigilance so that you don't end up frustrated after some good for nothing religious titled chiefs have filled your brains with what you can't defend!
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 7:11am On Jun 01, 2019
Maximus69:
Sorry for your life and condition Sir!
Take heart, it just one of those things.
Life is meant to be taken with care and vigilance so that you don't end up frustrated after some good for nothing religious titled chiefs have filled your brains with what you can't defend!
lying pharisee false jw max

ha ha, you would be sorry for your life and condition
if you were not blinded and knew your final destination

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 7:18am On Jun 01, 2019
false jw girls or boys with make up, jewellery, bright colored clothing

Mat_23:25  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Luk_11:39  And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.

V

Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Nobody: 7:59am On Jun 01, 2019
johnw47:
false jw girls or boys with make up, jewellery, bright colored clothing

Mat_23:25  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Luk_11:39  And the Lord said unto him, Now do ye Pharisees make clean the outside of the cup and the platter; but your inward part is full of ravening and wickedness.

V
Well as you're seeing them, they are ever ready to go out there and declare the excellency of Jesus the King of kings and Lord of lords.
So even if nobody can see their hearts by just looking at their beautiful faces, their works is enough to SHOW what is in their hearts{FAITH}! James 2:18-26 wink
You have no worshiper of your own God that is presentable since you're mr nonedenominational, that's what is killing you inside as you're seeing the beautiful female soldiers of Christ! Psalms 148:12-13
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Emusan(m): 8:55am On Jun 01, 2019
Barristter07:
Just as Luke 1:35 was about the child. .

Don't forget your burden of proof rest on the statement " SHALL BE CALLED " Son of God. Which you said in your opinion means He wasn't Son of God before his birth. Despite it never says Will become .

At Isaiah 9:6 we saw the same expression " SHALL BE CALLED " Mighty God . Using the same logic, Does this not mean he wasn't a Mighty God before his birth emphasis on " Shall be called " ? That's what am asking you
Next time you remove EVERLASTING FATHER from your statement will be the end of my reply to you because only a dubious and liar will deliberately omit something to hide under...

Do you also believe Jesus was an everlasting Father before His birth? You didn't answer this.

Isaiah was about the MESSIAH not The word that became flesh...I quoted different commentaries to show you that Isaiah was directed to the MESSAIH and not His preexistence just as Luke addressed the Thing Mary will give birth to. Which means Isaiah was directed to the person of the Messiah that's even why I said "you may then ask, why using Isaiah as a proof of Jesus deity?"

You keep exposing your ignorance and evidence that you lack simple comprehension.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Emusan(m): 9:05am On Jun 01, 2019
Jozzy4:
Mr answer his question and stop per ambulating - , Is Luke 1:35 not also about the child ?

It says the child shall be called Mighty God , Has he always been God or just God at the moment he was born ?
Like I said to your brother only a liar and dishonest person will deliberately omit something to hide under.

Why are you guys single out only MIGHTY GOD in that verse wasn't EVERLASTING Father written there too? Hypocrite!

And it's obvious the reason is that you believe Jesus is a mighty God before His birth but to take Him as an everlasting Father will shamble all your lies and evil doctrines.

Lastly, I'm still waiting for you to clear your lie that Trinitarians claimed that God the son existed before creation or birth...
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 9:09am On Jun 01, 2019
Maximus69:
Well as you're seeing them, they are ever ready to go out there and declare the excellency of Jesus the King of kings and Lord of lords.
never ending lying pharisee false jw max
preaching the lie that the Word the Lord and saviour of the world Jesus Christ is "a god" etc.
is not preaching excellency but is preaching satans lies, oh duh

Maximus69: So even if nobody can see their hearts by just looking at their beautiful faces, their works is enough to SHOW what is in their hearts{FAITH}!
beautiful, you sure have queer taste
their works preaching lies sure does show what is in their hearts
and it's the spirit of satan that is there

Maximus69: You have no worshiper of your own God that is presentable since you're mr nonedenominational,
oh duh duh, cannot stop lying false jw max, every christian of faith, that is those who believes God's word (that of course leaves out you false jw's) is presentable indeed

Maximus69: that's what is killing you inside as you're seeing the beautiful female soldiers of Christ!
ha ha never ending lies of false jw max

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Nobody: 9:26am On Jun 01, 2019
johnw47:
oh duh duh, cannot stop lying false jw max, every christian of faith, that is those who believes God's word (that of course leaves out you false jw's) is presentable indeed
So you can't get a single picture of a worshiper of your God to present on NL, but you can fetch for the picture of artificial nails! wink
OK Sir, you have NO problem Sir! cheesy
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47:
Maximus69:
So you can't get a single picture of a worshiper of your God to present on NL, but you can fetch for the picture of artificial nails! wink
OK Sir, you have NO problem Sir! cheesy
lying pharisee false jw max
ha ha, a picture does not make a worshipper, you are such a know nothing duh smiley
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 9:34am On Jun 01, 2019
Almighty God and Mighty God are names for the one true God, not the names of two gods like polytheist false jw's believe, Almighty God the Father and Mighty God Jesus, laugh

Jehovah is called Almighty God:

Gen_17:1  And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD(Jehovah) appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Jehovah is called Mighty God:

Psa_50:1  A Psalm of Asaph. The mighty God, even the LORD(Jehovah), hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 10:15am On Jun 01, 2019
Maximus69:
So you can't get a single picture of a worshiper of your God to present on NL, but you can fetch for the picture of artificial nails! wink
OK Sir, you have NO problem Sir! cheesy
lying pharisee false jw max
that's not a reply to what i said, but if it's dishonest
you false jw will use it smiley

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:38am On Jun 01, 2019
johnw47:
Almighty God and Mighty God are names for the one true God, not the names of two gods like polytheist false jw's believe, Almighty God the Father and Mighty God Jesus, laugh

Jehovah is called Almighty God:
Gen_17:1 

Jehovah is called Mighty God:
Psa_50:1
John lying Pharisee, your mumu brain dey deceive you gaan..
Know it today, your god the father; god the son and god the ghost is polytheism.
Paste that fact into your mumu brain and super glue it there.
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:40am On Jun 01, 2019
johnw47:
Almighty God and Mighty God are names for the one true God, not the names of two gods like polytheist false jw's believe, Almighty God the Father and Mighty God Jesus, laugh

Jehovah is called Almighty God:
Gen_17:1 

Jehovah is called Mighty God:
Psa_50:1
John lying Pharisee, your mumu brain dey deceive you gaan..
Know it today, your god the father; god the son and god the ghost is polytheism.
Paste that fact into your mumu brain and super glue it there.

Jesus NEVER called himself Almighty God. You have no proof
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:59am On Jun 01, 2019
johnw47:
lying pharisee false jw max

they are neither beautiful, nor would i take care of satans mob

look again at their faces, they do look like drag queens smiley

i hear they are common in brazil
You're NOT sane!
Or you're hiding in the closet .
So, Johnw sees well dressed, pretty women who are JWs, but the only thought in Johnw mumu brain is 'drag queen'...
What a born again closet dude!
This lying Pharisee is not straight.... Oturugbeke !!!!!!!
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47:
Janosky:
John lying Pharisee, your mumu brain dey deceive you gaan..
Know it today, your god the father; god the son and god the ghost is polytheism.
Paste that fact into your mumu brain and super glue it there.
Janosky:
John lying Pharisee, your mumu brain dey deceive you gaan..
Know it today, your god the father; god the son and god the ghost is polytheism.
Paste that fact into your mumu brain and super glue it there.

Jesus NEVER called himself Almighty God. You have no proof
tormented lying pharisee deceive Janosky/OneJ

you see your fellow jw's get kicked in the bottom
and you think you can help out, you will have to do better than double posting your confusion, cheesy
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 11:15am On Jun 01, 2019
Janosky:
You're NOT sane!
Or you're hiding in the closet .
So, Johnw sees well dressed, pretty women who are JWs, but the only thought in Johnw mumu brain is 'drag queen'...
What a born again closet dude!
This lying Pharisee is not straight.... Oturugbeke !!!!!!!
ha ha, lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/oneJ

those false jws are not pretty, unless you like girls who look like preety boys
they do look like drag queens to me
like i said to other false jw: you false jw's have queer taste
Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by johnw47: 11:28am On Jun 01, 2019
Janosky:
John lying Pharisee, your mumu brain dey deceive you gaan..
Know it today, your god the father; god the son and god the ghost is polytheism.
Paste that fact into your mumu brain and super glue it there.
oh duh duh, know nothing confused false jw Janosky/One4J

you false jw's are polytheist, you believe in almighty God the father and mighty god jesus, two gods

Father Son and Holy Ghost is three persons in God, not three gods, laughing

Janosky:
Jesus NEVER called himself Almighty God. You have no proof
i never called myself human, but i am, ha ha oh duh one
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