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johnw47:
lying pharisee false jw max
ha ha, a picture does not make a worshipper, you are such a know nothing duh

Of course there is no PRESENTABLE worshiper of your god to show on social media like JWs can show you pictures from all across the globe!
Perhaps you want to know, pictures don't lie Sir. If someone can take a stand before 9,000,000,000 people globally to say i belong to a group that 99.9% of them are against. Helloooooooo i suppose there is nothing to argue about, they're ready to stand up for their faith! Luke 7:36-50

johnw47:
you false jw's are polytheist, you believe in almighty God the father and mighty god jesus, two gods

Father Son and Holy Ghost is three persons in God, not three gods, laughing

Jehovah is 'EL' ( a mighty God) Psalms 50:1.

** Jesus is 'EL' (a mighty God) Isaiah 9:6).

****Man is 'EL' (a mighty God) Psalms 82:1,6

Johnw lying Pharisee blinded by falsehood .


** * God the Father, God the son and God the "holy" ghost, that's the 3 gods , Godhead of Trinity worshipped. by lying Pharisees everywhere pretending to be Christians.

***** Jesus NEVER called himself Almighty God because he is NOT .
John 20:17. Matt 16:13-17
Rev 3:5

Emusan:
Like I said to your brother only a liar and dishonest person will deliberately omit something to hide under.

Why are you guys single out only MIGHTY GOD in that verse wasn't EVERLASTING Father written there too? Hypocrite!

Keep shut man

You said Isaiah calling him Everlasting Father and Mighty God means He must be God

All am interested in knowing from this
Statement of yours is, has he always been God or just God when he was given birth to ?

That's all .

And it's obvious the reason is that you believe Jesus is a mighty God before His birth

Do you ? Abeg face matter

but to take Him as an everlasting Father will shamble all your lies and evil doctrines.

How exactly , when we know he is the beginning of the creation by God?

Lastly, I'm still waiting for you to clear your lie that Trinitarians claimed that God the son existed before creation or birth...

Mr have given you enough proof, take this as well


We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds (æons) , Lit's obvious the reason is that you believe Jesus is a mighty God before His birth but to take Him as an everlasting Father will shamble all your lies and evil doctrines. - Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed

Emusan:
Like I said to your brother only a liar and dishonest person will deliberately omit something to hide under.

Why are you guys single out only MIGHTY GOD in that verse wasn't EVERLASTING Father written there too? Hypocrite!

And it's obvious the reason is that you believe Jesus is a mighty God before His birth but to take Him as an everlasting Father will shamble all your lies and evil doctrines.

Lastly, I'm still waiting for you to clear your lie that Trinitarians claimed that God the son existed before creation or birth...

It's better to have discussions based on FAITH when millions out there are busy pursuing materials things of the world, sports, gambling and lust!
So let's commend whoever create some time for spiritual things.
Everlasting father simply means Jesus have bought obedient mankind who are supposed to be Adam's children with his precious blood, that is how he became our everlasting father{by faith} in replacement of Adam our former DEAD father who passed on sin and death to all of us! Romans 5:12

Jozzy4:
Keep shut man

Keep blabbing boy...

You said Isaiah calling him Everlasting Father and Mighty God means He must be God

All am interested in knowing from this
Statement of yours is, has he always been God or just God when he was given birth to?

That's all.

Imagine, see the life of an hypocrite! You said calling Jesus mighty God means He must be before His birth.

Do you agree that calling Jesus everlasting Father means He must be before His birth?

Do you ? Abeg face matter

Do you agree that Jesus is an everlasting Father before His birth?

How exactly , when we know he is the beginning of the creation by God?

But the same Isaiah you are using to mean Jesus has been mighty God before His birth says He is also an everlasting Father. You can see your hypocritical face now.

You don't want to agree that He is an everlasting Father but he's a mighty God

Mr have given you enough proof, take this as well


We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds (æons) , Lit's obvious the reason is that you believe Jesus is a mighty God before His birth but to take Him as an everlasting Father will shamble all your lies and evil doctrines. - Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed

Your claim is "the Trinitarian take Him to be GOD THE SON before creation or birth" all you're just doing is crying around like a child who missed his mum.

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Now let me add to your confusion.

Your position will be:
1. Jesus is an angel before his birth
2. Angels are called sons of God before Christ was born.

Then, fast forward to the book of Hebrew, you see these facts:
1. "So he has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs." v4

Comment: Here the scripture told us That Christ INHERITED A NAME more excellent than their own.

What is the name that Christ inherited?

"For example, to which one of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father”? And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”? NWT

Comment: the name CHRIST inherited is THE SON OF GOD according to v5.

Also see how these verses shamble all your devilish doctrines about Christ is an angel.

Maximus69:
It's better to have discussions based on FAITH when millions out there are busy pursuing materials things of the world, sports, gambling and lust!
So let's commend whoever create some time for spiritual things.

Irrelevant!

Everlasting father simply means Jesus have bought obedient mankind who are supposed to be Adam's children with his precious blood, that is how he became our everlasting father{by faith} in replacement of Adam our former DEAD father who passed on sin and death to all of us! Romans 5:12

Brainwashed JWs...did you read what we're talking about before you jump in like a kangaroo

Has Jesus been an everlasting Father before His birth? We are using Isaiah 9:6 as reference where your brothers agreed that to be called mighty God means he must have been God before his birth.

If you deviated from this I won't reply you.

Anyway, how was your ban?

Maximus69:
Yes! I'm not interested in going to heaven because it's not NATURAL! Those going there will no more live in the flesh but in spirit! So how am i going to cope with such a life of none physical things?
Of course God will not include me in such a prospect because i am PHYSICAL and i LOVE physical life!
I love life to be real and appealing NOT what i'm not used to.
Just imagine this!

Who determines what is natural or not? Are miracles natural? Elijah's leaving earth was it natural? Why should you want to "live in flesh" when the Bible says
Rom 8:8  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 
Gal 5:19  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 
Gal 5:20  Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 
Gal 5:21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. How are you coping with a life of physical things, is it by your power? Do you suppose that the One who gave you power is powerless to do more or has reached His limit?Is God unreal and unappealing? Are angels unreal and unappealing, is Jesus unreal and unappealing? Is Heaven unreal and unappealing?

Thanks once again for referring so copiously to the Bible. Though i'd wish once again that you quoted it directly to emphasize what exactly it is saying and it's relevance to what you are saying.

TATIME:
Four questions!
{1} Why do we think we are not of these FEW? It's like you hurriedly read my response without meditation!
Answer~ God's original purpose is for humans to live forever on earth, NOT in heaven! Genesis 2:15-17

Gen 2:15  And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 
Gen 2:16  And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 
Gen 2:17  But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

True that God's original purpose was for man to live forever, the passage says no such thing, alludes to nor suggests no such thing as the finality you have asserted about earth NOT heaven. We both know that the Spirit of God moved on the surface of the earth in the same Genesis.
Gen 1:2  And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 
There is nothing stating that He passed His boundary or has a boundary. We both also know of the sons of God that appeared before God who is in heaven, and that Adam is a son of God in some sense.
Job 1:6  Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. 
Job 1:7  And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
i don't like to say it yet, but it is also clear from the above that satan the devil also has some movement that exceeds earth. So there is really no place in the Bible where it ASSERTS like you do that man MUST NOT pass earth.

{2} What is the criteria for the few?
Answer~ It's the same criteria for all Christians,out which God will choose 144,000! So NO prophet is qualified for heaven apart from Christians who are baptised. And they'll also be baptised with holy spirit! John 3:5

In other words, all baptised christians are qualified for heaven, right? Let me get this clearly.
BTW, here is at least one prophet in Heaven as reported by the Bible plainly without any twists and turns. Maybe he wasn't qualified sha.
2Ki 2:1  And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.

So out of these christians, God will pick or choose some 144,000? Based on what?

{3} Do you know this few?
Answer~ There is no just one way to know them, because they MUST not brag about it nor make any public gesture. So it's just one occasion that's inevitable that exposes them! 1Corinthians 11:27-30
During this occasion they can't hide their identity but without it they will NEVER tell you they're born again!

If there is no way to know the people going to heaven, why do you now think you are not one of them? Does the Bible say that the people going to heaven must not make any public gesture, or why do you feel so?
1Co 11:27  Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 
1Co 11:28  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 
1Co 11:29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. 
1Co 11:30  For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

What does this passage you referred to have to do with the discussion?

{4} Jesus' main purpose of coming is to fetch for his corulers[Matthew 15:24] So they're just 144,000{FEW} humans who must become born again[John 3:3 ]
The other sheep comprises of countless faithful humans who had the original prospect of living forever ON EARTH like Abel to Christians{who aren't born again}
Just only the FEW[144,000 including the 12 Apostles] that will rule with Christ and they are the born agains who are GOING TO HEAVEN!

Mat 15:24  But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Why are you referring to this when you just told me that "the Israelites forfeited this privilege". Does the Bible say that they are just 144,000 humans who must become born again or you just feel so? Because the Bible clearly said A MAN, meaning any man.
Joh 3:3  Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 
Joh 3:7  Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

i think if Jesus said, Marvel not that I said unto thee, 144,000 few humans must be born again. It will be very clear, but i don't think there is any such place in the Bible on how many people must be born again. Even the apostles did not think so, or why did they refuse to say it?
1Pe 1:1  Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

Here is apostle Peter who should know better and have this privileged esoteric information, talking to strangers scattered everywhere. Virtually, we can say he is talking to all of us. Here is part of what he tells us all to do.
"see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever."

So how do you say this is not for us?

Maximus69:
Of course there is no PRESENTABLE worshiper of your god to show on social media like JWs can show you pictures from all across the globe!
Perhaps you want to know, pictures don't lie Sir. If someone can take a stand before 9,000,000,000 people globally to say i belong to a group that 99.9% of them are against. Helloooooooo i suppose there is nothing to argue about, they're ready to stand up for their faith! Luke 7:36-50

oh pathetic false jw wacho maxo

you think posting pics of false jw's online proves your faith
well it does, it proves you have a whacho faith
and what else could your faith be with the devil being your god

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

truly Luke 7:36-50 is not concerning satans mob-false jw's going door to door looking for who he can devour

Janosky:
Jehovah is 'EL' ( a mighty God) Psalms 50:1.

** Jesus is 'EL' (a mighty God) Isaiah 9:6).

****Man is 'EL' (a mighty God) Psalms 82:1,6

Johnw lying Pharisee blinded by falsehood .


** * God the Father, God the son and God the "holy" ghost, that's the 3 gods , Godhead of Trinity worshipped. by lying Pharisees everywhere pretending to be Christians.

***** Jesus NEVER called himself Almighty God because he is NOT .
John 20:17. Matt 16:13-17
Rev 3:5

know nothing false jw Janosky/OneJ
repeating yourself over and over again

truly mumu brain, Father Son and Holy Spirit is three persons in God,
in the one God, but you a numskull will never understand

oh duh duh if Jesus never called Himself Almighty God, it's because He didn't need to
i don't go around calling myself human, because i don't need to, oh janosky/OneJ the most duh one

Janosky:
Jehovah is 'EL' ( a mighty God) Psalms 50:1.

** Jesus is 'EL' (a mighty God) Isaiah 9:6).

****Man is 'EL' (a mighty God) Psalms 82:1,6

Psa 50:1  is about Jehovah The mighty God
Isaiah 9:6 is about Jesus The Mighty God, both showing that Jesus is Jehovah

Psalms 82:1,6 is not about The Mighty God, but is about mighty men, men called gods, oh liar

Janosky: Johnw lying Pharisee blinded by falsehood .

false jw is your name lying is your game

Image123:
Who determines what is natural or not? Are miracles natural? Elijah's leaving earth was it natural? Why should you want to "live in flesh" when the Bible says
Rom 8:8  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 
Gal 5:19  Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 
Gal 5:20  Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 
Gal 5:21  Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. How are you coping with a life of physical things, is it by your power? Do you suppose that the One who gave you power is powerless to do more or has reached His limit?Is God unreal and unappealing? Are angels unreal and unappealing, is Jesus unreal and unappealing? Is Heaven unreal and unappealing?

Adam was made flesh that is why we are all flesh.
But the issue leading to all these problems is that Adam and Eve wants to be independent of the spirit who gave them life 'GOD' ! Genesis 3:1-7
They both reason that without taking instructions from anyone they can live happily. That costly blunder led all their progenies to what is recorded in Galatians 5:19-21
Faith means to be obedient to an unseen guardian whose instructions is believed to be beneficial! Hebrew 11:1 So while unbelievers will only obey the person they can see, a believer is constantly seeing God who is invisible with eyes of faith and obeying him! Hebrew 11:6
Therefore it is the FAITH in a believer that makes it possible for him to live in the flesh yet keep the flesh in it's proper position! Romans 7:14-25
That is what Apostle Paul meant.
Regarding going to heaven.
God's original purpose for man is to live on earth and have in subjection all other fleshy creatures without intellect, man is to take charge of earth in the midst of all the fleshy creatures flying in the air, walking in the fields including all those huge sea creatures! Genesis 1: 26
That wonderful plan will never return into God's mouth without fulfilment, it must be just as he purposed it because that is the meaning of his name YHWH! Isaiah 55:11
No wonder he made a promise that all the evil we're experiencing on earth today will soon be things of the past! Psalm 37:10-11
Jesus is the anointed king that will rule the earth and put an end to all badness. Psalms 110:1
Whoever refuse to obey him will be exterminated! Luke 19:27
The seat of his government as in all his corulers suppose to be here on earth in Jerusalem {Mount Zion}! Psalms 110:2, Isaiah 2:3
But Israelites have polluted Jerusalem by shedding innocent blood, killing God's holy prophets and finally his only begotten son Jesus! Matthew 23:37
That is why Jesus promised to take his corulers to another destination HEAVEN where he lives! John 14:1-4
These corulers must learn so much about righteous rule from Jesus before God anoint any of them as corulers with his son! Matthew 19:28
Notice that Jesus mentioned REGENERATION or RECREATION! What he meant is that his corulers will be RECREATED for another kind of life HEAVENLY LIFE! That is why all those who are going to heaven MUST BE BORN AGAIN! John 3:2-3
But that never change Gods plan as those these heavenly rulers will govern are going to live here on earth! Revelations 14:6
Those going there with Jesus are a limited number{Revelations 14:1} that is why Jesus made it clear to them that he had other sheep but not of the HEAVENLY fold, they will all be his subjects as having one king ruling all of them together! John 10:16
So while few will go and rule with Jesus in heaven{Matthew 5:3} millions of sheeplike ones like live in peace and security under that righteous government here on EARTH! Matthew 5:5
I belong to the EARTHLY fold of obedient followers of Jesus,that is why i am NOT going to heaven! Psalms 37:29

those nails are ugly and artificial, but you nail man max love them
you love many things artificial-false, like a false jesus who is "a god"
and many false doctrines etc.

max you don't want to go to Heaven because you say it's not natural:

Maximus69:
I'm not interested in going to heaven because it's not NATURAL!

but you just love unnatural-false finger nails, ha ha what a duh

Maximus69:
i just love nails .. that's what i'm attracted to!

VVV the claws of death (notice the: @magic_on_nails)

johnw47:
those nails are ugly and artificial, but you nail man max love them
you love many things artificial-false, like a false jesus who is "a god"
and many false doctrines etc.
max you don't want to go to Heaven because you say it's not natural:but you just love unnatural-false finger nails, ha ha what a duh
VVV the claws of death (notice the: @magic_on_nails)

Wow that's great!
So you now have the picture in your brains!
Well those are the beautiful things of nature you can never find anywhere else but here on earth where you can SEE, FEEL and TOUCH natural things!
It's just a pity that you can't afford this for now, so try to listen and learn the truth so that when God's kingdom comes you will be able to take good care of your wife and make her feel like a QUEEN.
For your information Sir, those are NATURAL nails in the hands of a japanese lady. The MAGIC is not the long nails but the POLISH, my wife loved it that is why she sent the picture to me on WhatsApp because i don't fancy RED as a colour! Of course i told her to go for another colour but the same maker because it's truly beautiful!
Try to erase it from your brains since you're dying for going to heaven and Jesus who knew that place well said there is no FLESH there for you to SEE, FEEL or TOUCH hence those going there aren't needing marriage as they'll live as spirits NOT flesh having MALES and FEMALES! Matthew 22:29-30

Maximus69:
Wow that's great!
So you now have the picture in your brains!
Well those are the beautiful things of nature you can never find anywhere else but here on earth where you can SEE, FEEL and TOUCH natural things!
It's just a pity that you can't afford this for now, so try to listen and learn the truth so that when God's kingdom comes you will be able to take good care of your wife and make her feel like a QUEEN.
For your information Sir, those are NATURAL nails in the hands of a japanese lady. The MAGIC is not the long nails but the POLISH, my wife loved it that is why she sent the picture to me on WhatsApp because i don't fancy RED as a colour! Of course i told her to go for another colour but the same maker because it's truly beautiful!
Try to erase it from your brains since you're dying for going to heaven and Jesus who knew that place well said there is no FLESH there for you to SEE, FEEL or TOUCH hence those going there aren't needing marriage as they'll live as spirits NOT flesh having MALES and FEMALES! Matthew 22:29-30

lying pharisee false jw maxine
you talk as much garbage as tatime, and you lie like your daddy, of course

max you don't like heaven which you say is not natural, but you love unnatural glued on finger nails coloured by @magic_on_nails paint
you false jw's sure are queer

and evil, to be sure

Maximus69:
I'm not interested in going to heaven because it's not NATURAL!

Maximus69:
i just love nails .. that's what i'm attracted to!

i don't think you would mind me calling you maxine
as you have a fetish for long colorful finger nails

just imagine

Maximus69:
It's just a pity that you can't afford this for now

continued lies from lying pharisee false jw maxine, of course

Maximus69: i don't fancy RED as a colour!

yet you said you are not interisted in going to heaven
and you said you love the physical life

and you said "Just imagine this!"

then you posted a picture of red finger nails, ha ha


Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

WATCHTOWER false prophecy

“If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that
you will never grow old in this present system of things.” Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15

Emusan:
Next time you remove EVERLASTING FATHER from your statement will be the end of my reply to you because only a dubious and liar will deliberately omit something to hide under...

Do you also believe Jesus was an everlasting Father before His birth? You didn't answer this.

Isaiah was about the MESSIAH not The word that became flesh...I quoted different commentaries to show you that Isaiah was directed to the MESSAIH and not His preexistence just as Luke addressed the Thing Mary will give birth to. Which means Isaiah was directed to the person of the Messiah that's even why I said "you may then ask, why using Isaiah as a proof of Jesus deity?"

You keep exposing your ignorance and evidence that you lack simple comprehension.

Good morning.
Expect my response soon.

Jozzy4:
Keep shut man

You said Isaiah calling him Everlasting Father and Mighty God means He must be God

All am interested in knowing from this
Statement of yours is, has he always been God or just God when he was given birth to ?

That's all .



Do you ? Abeg face matter



How exactly , when we know he is the beginning of the creation by God?


Mr have given you enough proof, take this as well


We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds (æons) , Lit's obvious the reason is that you believe Jesus is a mighty God before His birth but to take Him as an everlasting Father will shamble all your lies and evil doctrines. - Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed

good morning Joe... smiles

Maximus69:
Adam was made flesh that is why we are all flesh.
But the issue leading to all these problems is that Adam and Eve wants to be independent of the spirit who gave them life 'GOD' ! Genesis 3:1-7
They both reason that without taking instructions from anyone they can live happily. That costly blunder led all their progenies to what is recorded in Galatians 5:19-21
Faith means to be obedient to an unseen guardian whose instructions is believed to be beneficial! Hebrew 11:1 So while unbelievers will only obey the person they can see, a believer is constantly seeing God who is invisible with eyes of faith and obeying him! Hebrew 11:6
Therefore it is the FAITH in a believer that makes it possible for him to live in the flesh yet keep the flesh in it's proper position! Romans 7:14-25
That is what Apostle Paul meant.
Regarding going to heaven.
God's original purpose for man is to live on earth and have in subjection all other fleshy creatures without intellect, man is to take charge of earth in the midst of all the fleshy creatures flying in the air, walking in the fields including all those huge sea creatures! Genesis 1: 26
That wonderful plan will never return into God's mouth without fulfilment, it must be just as he purposed it because that is the meaning of his name YHWH! Isaiah 55:11
No wonder he made a promise that all the evil we're experiencing on earth today will soon be things of the past! Psalm 37:10-11
Jesus is the anointed king that will rule the earth and put an end to all badness. Psalms 110:1
Whoever refuse to obey him will be exterminated! Luke 19:27
The seat of his government as in all his corulers suppose to be here on earth in Jerusalem {Mount Zion}! Psalms 110:2, Isaiah 2:3
But Israelites have polluted Jerusalem by shedding innocent blood, killing God's holy prophets and finally his only begotten son Jesus! Matthew 23:37
That is why Jesus promised to take his corulers to another destination HEAVEN where he lives! John 14:1-4
These corulers must learn so much about righteous rule from Jesus before God anoint any of them as corulers with his son! Matthew 19:28
Notice that Jesus mentioned REGENERATION or RECREATION! What he meant is that his corulers will be RECREATED for another kind of life HEAVENLY LIFE! That is why all those who are going to heaven MUST BE BORN AGAIN! John 3:2-3
But that never change Gods plan as those these heavenly rulers will govern are going to live here on earth! Revelations 14:6
Those going there with Jesus are a limited number{Revelations 14:1} that is why Jesus made it clear to them that he had other sheep but not of the HEAVENLY fold, they will all be his subjects as having one king ruling all of them together! John 10:16
So while few will go and rule with Jesus in heaven{Matthew 5:3} millions of sheeplike ones like live in peace and security under that righteous government here on EARTH! Matthew 5:5
I belong to the EARTHLY fold of obedient followers of Jesus,that is why i am NOT going to heaven! Psalms 37:29

This is quite a robotic response, you did not address any one of the questions. Let me ask you, please did you copy this response from somewhere and paste here?

Image123:
This is quite a robotic response, you did not address any one of the questions. Let me ask you, please did you copy this response from somewhere and paste here?

They don't answer questions they're just dishing out what GB implanted in their heads.

Imagine, this type of statement from him: "But Israelites have polluted Jerusalem by shedding innocent blood, killing God's holy prophets and finally his only begotten son Jesus! Matthew 23:37
That is why Jesus promised to take his corulers to another destination HEAVEN where he lives! John 14:1-4
These corulers must learn so much about righteous rule from Jesus before God anoint any of them as corulers with his son! Matthew 19:28
Notice that Jesus mentioned REGENERATION or RECREATION! What he meant is that his corulers will be RECREATED for another kind of life HEAVENLY LIFE! That is why all those who are going to heaven MUST BE BORN AGAIN! John 3:2-3"

Have followed this conversations from page 1 to page 38 and have carefully observed the Two defendants here.

Jw vs Free Worshippers


It's amazing that non Jehovah Witness was able to produce a scripture to say specifically that The Group was endorsed by the Scripture.


Over 16 questions on the Defendant JW to produce a scripture backing the Towers as the Group Jehovah wants every man to join.

Non was answered, just the Normal Boring Jabs.


Anyway, I made a good study view of the Jehovah Witness Group and realise this is exactly a Psychological Cloning in maximum pattern and this is exactly robotic.


Same line, same thought no personal study, no personal opinion etc


I celebrate everybody that stood to defend their faith against this guy's because you guys did an amazing work.


How do you arque and win a Robot?


A Robot is a coded machine............ Same is Jehovah Witness.


Spiritual are hard to discern and if it's the logos that will form the major arquement then I don't see anybody winning a robot.


Once a Robot, always a Robot.


Robots are hypocrites, since the coding is limited, it has to do anything to defend the coding.


A God of Heaven can only be served by a Group and aside that group God can't be truly worshiped. Really? Wow!

Now as Non Robot I think we should continue to show them the truth and see if one of the codings might be doubted leading to personal investigations.


Apostle Paul was like that robot till the day he had that encounter, 3and half years did it take him to digest Truth.


Lastly, the Only Way to know Truth is true the Spirit of Truth, any other way is shambles and mistakes and ego discerning.



John 16:12-14 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.




But the Robot here defending Jehovah Witness says the Spirit of Truth here is their Tower, hmmmmmm �.


I pray for you that God will open your eyes and ears in Jesus Name, amen.



Isaiah 43:8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears.

nutarious:
Have followed this conversations from page 1 to page 38 and have carefully observed the Two defendants here.

Jw vs Free Worshippers


It's amazing that non Jehovah Witness was able to produce a scripture to say specifically that The Group was endorsed by the Scripture.


Over 16 questions on the Defendant JW to produce a scripture backing the Towers as the Group Jehovah wants every man to join.

Non was answered, just the Normal Boring Jabs.


Anyway, I made a good study view of the Jehovah Witness Group and realise this is exactly a Psychological Cloning in maximum pattern and this is exactly robotic.


Same line, same thought no personal study, no personal opinion etc


I celebrate everybody that stood to defend their faith against this guy's because you guys did an amazing work.


How do you arque and win a Robot?


A Robot is a coded machine............ Same is Jehovah Witness.


Spiritual are hard to discern and if it's the logos that will form the major arquement then I don't see anybody winning a robot.


Once a Robot, always a Robot.


Robots are hypocrites, since the coding is limited, it has to do anything to defend the coding.


A God of Heaven can only be served by a Group and aside that group God can't be truly worshiped. Really? Wow!

Now as Non Robot I think we should continue to show them the truth and see if one of the codings might be doubted leading to personal investigations.


Apostle Paul was like that robot till the day he had that encounter, 3and half years did it take him to digest Truth.


Lastly, the Only Way to know Truth is true the Spirit of Truth, any other way is shambles and mistakes and ego discerning.



John 16:12-14 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.




But the Robot here defending Jehovah Witness says the Spirit of Truth here is their Tower, hmmmmmm �.


I pray for you that God will open your eyes and ears in Jesus Name, amen.



Isaiah 43:8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears.

God bless you my sister.

Even though you are almost completely correct by calling the JWs robots, of a truth they act like they have been programmed and it prevents them from reasoning either with their God given brains or with the Scriptures. When you ask them a question, they side step it and give you memory verses instead.

I still pray for them hoping that the little ember of God's love within them will cause a spark of light to catch.

Just imagine if on dying, a JW discovers he is not unconscious but very much alive. How can he explain that an organisation told him all he was to believe from the Scriptures!

Our faith should rest solely on Christ and the Scriptures, not on any organisation!

Emusan:
Keep blabbing boy...



Imagine, see the life of an hypocrite! You said calling Jesus mighty God means He must be before His birth.

Do you agree that calling Jesus everlasting Father means He must be before His birth?

The point is that we both agree Jesus is Mighty God before birth_ That already send the message needed, Shall be called does not imply the person isn't already in that capacity

Do you agree that Jesus is an everlasting Father before His birth?



But the same Isaiah you are using to mean Jesus has been mighty God before His birth says He is also an everlasting Father. You can see your hypocritical face now.

You don't want to agree that He is an everlasting Father but he's a mighty God

You yourself know he didn't become everlasting father at his birth . But he was a mighty God , both are different

Your claim is "the Trinitarian take Him to be GOD THE SON before creation or birth" all you're just doing is crying around like a child who missed his mum.

If not because you lack comprehension, All I needed in that quote was " Son " , which the write up quoted admitted he was before his birth,

Now let me add to your confusion.

Your position will be:
1. Jesus is an angel before his birth
2. Angels are called sons of God before Christ was born.

Then, fast forward to the book of Hebrew, you see these facts:
1. "So he has become better than the angels to the extent that he has inherited a name more excellent than theirs." v4

Comment: Here the scripture told us That Christ INHERITED A NAME more excellent than their own.

What is the name that Christ inherited?

"For example, to which one of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father”? And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”? NWT

Comment: the name CHRIST inherited is THE SON OF GOD according to v5.

Also see how these verses shamble all your devilish doctrines about Christ is an angel.

hahaha mehn

Job 38:7 " THE SONS OF GOD " ( Angels)

They even got the name before him ? eeyah

shadeyinka:
God bless you my sister.

Even though you are almost completely correct by calling the JWs robots, of a truth they act like they have been programmed and it prevents them from reasoning either with their God given brains or with the Scriptures. When you ask them a question, they side step it and give you memory verses instead.

I still pray for them hoping that the little ember of God's love within them will cause a spark of light to catch.

Just imagine if on dying, a JW discovers he is not unconscious but very much alive. How can he explain that an organisation told him all he was to believe from the Scriptures!

Our faith should rest solely on Christ and the Scriptures, not on any organisation!

You have uttered this trash before and have been corrected , Nothing survives a man at death . the Bible said you can't find the living among the dead .

Jozzy4:
The point is that we both agree Jesus is Mighty God before birth That already send the message needed, Shall be called does not imply the person isn't already in that capacity

Where did I agree with the @underlined

Then @color it means you agree He's already an EVERLASTING FATHER

Wonderful...

You yourself know he didn't become everlasting father at his birth . But he was a mighty God , both are different

Ole....he was a mighty God but not an everlasting Father.

What is different?
Isn't the phrase "SHALL BE CALLED" also applied to everlasting father?

You want to eat your cake and also have it.

If not because you lack comprehension, All I needed in that quote was " Son " , which the write up quoted admitted he was before his birth,

See master of the most low level comprehension talking.

Read the write up again and again to see you're just lying and couldn't comprehend what the writer meant.

Meanwhile, no where your claim is established within Trinity doctrine, then it's an evident that you don't understand what you're even fighting against.

hahaha mehn

Job 38:7 " THE SONS OF GOD " ( Angels)

They even got the name before him ? eeyah

See the mofo laughing at when you should be ashamed of your lies and lack of scriptural indepth.

>>>Wasn't Hebrew 1 distinguished Jesus from the angels, which your lying organization claimed He was?
>>>Wasn't Hebrew 1 established that God has never addressed any angel as "His Son"
>>>Wasn't Hebrew 1 established that the name "The Son of God" was inherited by Jesus which you claimed He has always been before He was born?

Jozzy4:
You have uttered this trash before and have been corrected , Nothing survives a man at death . the Bible said you can't find the living among the dead .

And the same Bible says God is not the God of the dead but of the living...who is correct, you or God?

Emusan:
Where did I agree with the @underlined

Then @color it means you agree He's already an EVERLASTING FATHER

Wonderful...

You mean he wasn't a Mighty God before his birth ? Wow .

Ole....he was a mighty God but not an everlasting Father.

What is different?
Isn't the phrase "SHALL BE CALLED" also applied to everlasting father?

You want to eat your cake and also have it.

Because your knowledge is small nah , Everlasting father won't have died . he ought to be everlasting ... But did the Messiah die ?
Until after his ressurection, he wasn't everlasting father

See master of the most low level comprehension talking.

Read the write up again and again to see you're just lying and couldn't comprehend what the writer meant.

Meanwhile, no where your claim is established within Trinity doctrine, then it's an evident that you don't understand what you're even fighting against.

Son was begotten before the world, didn't it say so ? Use your sense nah

See the mofo laughing at when you should be ashamed of your lies and lack of scriptural indepth.

>>>Wasn't Hebrew 1 distinguished Jesus from the angels, which your lying organization claimed He was?
>>>Wasn't Hebrew 1 established that God has never addressed any angel as "His Son"

Are angels his son ? Job 38:7

>>>Wasn't Hebrew 1 established that the name "The Son of God" was inherited by Jesus which you claimed He has always been before He was born?

U are sounding silly already, Didn't Angels got called Son of God before he was born, Are they not more excellent if they got the name before him ?


Read Heb 1:2 he made the world through the SON . if he wasn't son then that won't have been true .

[quote author=Emusan post=78954485]And the same Bible says God is not the God of the dead but of the living...who is correct, you or God? [/quote

Quote it in full , Jesus spoke concerning Ressurection of the dead, has the ressurection occur ?

U need sense Emusan

Jozzy4:
You mean he wasn't a Mighty God before his birth ? Wow .

One thing I've noticed is that you people don't consider the center of your discussion when arguing.

Because your knowledge is small nah , Everlasting father won't have died . he ought to be everlasting ... But did the Messiah die ?
Until after his ressurection, he wasn't everlasting father

@underlined is my final point!

Isn't it obvious now how hypocritical you are?

Compare @underlined with this "Shall be called does not imply the person isn't already in that capacity"

But you have to shift only everlasting father to post resurrection simply because it contradicted your devilish doctrine.

Son was begotten before the world, didn't it say so ? Use your sense nah

Read it again and again, maybe you'll understand this time.

Are angels his son ? Job 38:7

Yes

U are sounding silly already, Didn't Angels got called Son of God before he was born, Are they not more excellent if they got the name before him ?

That's why I'll always say you people lack scriptural understanding.

That's to tell you that the person in question wasn't an angel, which proves your organization wrong that Jesus is an angel.

Angels are called the sons of God not in a sense Hebrew addressed that God Himself has never called
any angel "His Son", so it's evident from the view of the writer that when the uncreated Word of God became human, He must take FIRST POSITION in everything.

And the Son inherited the name

Read Heb 1:2 he made the world through the SON . if he wasn't son then that won't have been true.

Heb 1:2 begins with "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son..."

Jozzy4:
Quote it in full , Jesus spoke concerning Ressurection of the dead, has the ressurection occur?

You are asking me to quote in full, very funny!

Here is NIV version maybe it can cure your delicious.

"37 But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise, for he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ 38 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.” Luke 20

Notice: 1st @underlined: the statement isn't in the future tense like "the dead will arise" but "DEAD ARISE"

and the last @underlined should cure your brainwashed forever because it says "...for to him ALL ARE ALIVE"

Image123:
This is quite a robotic response, you did not address any one of the questions. Let me ask you, please did you copy this response from somewhere and paste here?

Well i did!
After a thorough study of the mindset of my Master, Lord and King through whom the Bible came to man! 1Corinthians 2:16, Jude 17
That's why any of my response is as robotic as ever.
What i am saying is not what Adam's children are used to, so it's a unique teaching from a perfect teacher who is capable of impacting knowledge into the minds of his students! Luke 6:40
So don't think this response is from my shallow mind otherwise it won't sound as if someone downloaded everything in my brains!
My thoughts, speech and expression is a reflexion of what the one who impacted in me exactly what to say! Matthew 10:19
That is why the response isn't just for you alone, but for all those following to know the overall concept of Bible's message!