tfash96:
but Messi no fit score with his right foot.. And all these things u don talk na only Man u Ronaldo d tin match wella

u no sabi anything

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You should have asked the team i was referring to!
was speaking with respect to portugal!

OGHENAOGIE:
i only use ur logic to state why VVD should be a ballon dor winner...cos I know u are an idiotic goat

your logic stinks.

OGHENAOGIE:
the champions league is bigger than EPL which is bigger than LA liga this season..its only a myopic person who thinks Messi deserve ballon dor for winning LA liga...mpabbe scored 33 goals and should also be given d award cos he won ligue one..sterlin also to cos he won the domestic treble in England even Bernardo Silva too....
we have passed the era where it's about Messi Ronaldo...

The champions league is bigger than any of the leagues AGREED!

But anybody who thinks that the only trophy in a typical season, worthy of winning the ballon dor is the champions league must be a super iidiot.

The domestic leagues are even more difficult to win than the champions league.

The champions league is only more glamorous.


-Spanish La liga trophy.
-La liga top scorer.
-Europen golden shoe.
-UEFA champions league top scorer.
-Highest goal scorer in all competitions.
-Highest assists in all competitions.


The only reason Messi might not be favourite for 2019 ballon dor is because his name is Messi.

Any other player having these feats in a season must be favourite for ballon dor AS AT JUNE 1st 2019.

But because of Messi's standards(which I understand) I would accept VVD as ballon dor with my whole heart.

eni4real:
He created 3 solid chances for a flop partner like Suarez!!
You don't want Coutinho to score, you don't want Suarez to score. You want only Messi to score. Is that how Ronaldo has been winning all his UCL?

Why was he busy “creating chances” ... did the short man suddenly forget how to score goals??

eni4real:
Why can't Didier Drogba win a single international trophy while Yaya Toure could Yaya Toure is far greater than Didier Drogba for Ivory Coast. Drogba is just a club Legend. Not even a single nation's cup

I am Didier Drogba’s biggest fan and I will be the first to tell you that Drogba failed for Côte d’Ivoire. Drogba had such a talented cast around him at AFCON and he was in prolific form but his nerves got to him. You see, I am not in denial like you Messi fan girls. The moment I state a fact “Messi has failed to deliver any trophies for Argentina senior national team”, you all start shouting this and that ... be rational and not emotional!

tesppidd:
The champions league is bigger than any of the leagues AGREED!

But anybody who thinks that the only trophy in a typical season, worthy of winning the ballon dor is the champions league must be a super iidiot.

The domestic leagues are even more difficult to win than the champions league.

The champions league is only more glamorous.


-Spanish La liga trophy.
-La liga top scorer.
-Europen golden shoe.
-UEFA champions league top scorer.
-Highest goal scorer in all competitions.
-Highest assists in all competitions.


The only reason Messi might not be favourite for 2019 ballon dor is because his name is Messi.

Any other player having these feats in a season must be favourite for ballon dor AS AT JUNE 1st 2019.

But because of Messi's standards(which I understand) I would accept VVD as ballon dor with my whole heart.

did you lamented like this when modric won the award...over a Ronaldo who was highest goal scorer in champions league
had highest MOTM award in champions league and la liga for Madrid
scored more goals for Portugal and scored four goals at the world cup despite going out at round 16...
modric who got to the final of world cup scored just three goals...
with modric winning it last year you fanatic Messi fans should know that the football World is tired of duopoly of Messi Ronaldo...
moreover VVD has a strong case he was voted PFA player of the year by his fellow EPL players who knows football than some of u fanatics out there and also the won the MVP in EPL...
At the champions league final he was MOTM yet you guys think he doesn't deserve it cos he is a defender after all
Messi did nothing spectacular like I said the same goals he was banging in la liga mbappe was banging In ligue one...even sterling,salah,mane,aubamayang were banging goals in EPL ronaldo to was scoring and won serie a...
let's be logical for once it will be football injustice to keep rewarding only attackers who score...
defenders stop goals too and VVD has not been dribbled in 64 games or so... he had just one yellow card and two yellow card in international...
last year a midfielder won
this year a defender would win
I hope a goalkeeper win too since its 1963 a goal keeper last won ballon dor....you Messi fans should quit this unnecessary emotional outbursts

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eni4real:
keep defending your ignorance!!
Even Mbappe is better than Ronaldo this season. You are still living in 2016!

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Balderdash and claptrap

SilasNwude:
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Balderdash and claptrap

You have no point. Keep your defense mechanism to yourself!!!

ReeLoaDead:

I am Didier Drogba’s biggest fan and I will be the first to tell you that Drogba failed for Côte d’Ivoire. Drogba had such a talented cast around him at AFCON and he was in prolific form but his nerves got to him. You see, I am not in denial like you Messi fan girls. The moment I state a fact “Messi has failed to deliver any trophies for Argentina senior national team”, you all start shouting this and that ... be rational and not emotional!

Let us agree that Yaya Toure is the greatest player to represent Ivory Coast then!! He is better than Didier Drogba because he was great for club and country.
Drogba is only good for Clubs but a flop for Country

ReeLoaDead:

Why was he busy “creating chances” ... did the short man suddenly forget how to score goals??

How did Ronaldo win the last UCL with Madrid

Semi finals (both leg): Benzema goals
Final: Bale and Benzema!!!

Imagine if Benzema and Bale did not step up when Ronaldo was absent in those crucial games.

Messi is even the reason why Barcelona was leading 3 Nil from the 1st Leg..
People like you forgot his assist to Dembele in the 1st leg
People like you forgot how flop of a player Suarez have been in the UCL, Messi has been carrying the team from day 1. When it is time for his own Benzema and Bale to score, nobody show up despite his chance creation. Still you will blame Messi because he is supposed to be scoring and be defending at the same time... Like Origi, like Eder. Messi is just unlucky...

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eni4real:
You have no point. Keep your defense mechanism to yourself!!!

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trash
arguing with a football novice is a waste of time

kiss the truth

OGHENAOGIE:
you are pained Barça and Messi fan... when VVD win the award you will jump to d lagoon..
modric won it last year there was no issue even when Ronaldo was the highest goal scorer in champions league and had more motm award than any player in champions league...
what you don't understand is the Aura is with VVD he is MVP in the best league in the world EPL he was MOTM in UEFA Champions League...he has steer in national team to nation league final...

Lagoon?? Why are you this brutal?? Anyway, VVD is greater than Ramos and Maldini according to all Ronaldo fans!!!
Origi deserves the Ballon d'or. Not that flop (a dribble avoider) called VVD!

SilasNwude:
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trash
arguing with a football novice is a waste of time

kiss the truth

You have not said anything since. Just trahy defense mechanism. You think you know so much, but you overestimate yourself... If your premises is based on belittling the effort of Portugal teammates to praise Ronaldo. A player who won Euro 2016 as a handicap, then you are just a fan boy who will disappear from football discussions after Ronaldo retires...

eni4real:
Lagoon?? Why are you this brutal?? Anyway, VVD is greater than Ramos and Maldini according to all Ronaldo fans!!!
Origi deserves the Ballon d'or. Not that flop (a dribble avoider) called VVD!

you came to the party late..you crowded the last two pages of this thread with your rubbish..please who is origi to win the balon d'or? you're even worst than the Ronaldo fans you're dragging here cos the main reason you're supporting origi for balon d'or is cos Ronaldo fans thinks VVD should be crowned..well from the rubbish you stated earlier about bale and benzema stepping up for Madrid in the semi final and final last season.. why didn't you support them for balon d'or last season cos origi did the same this year...no need to reply.. you're a deluded barca fan and a messi asslicker.

Equity15:
you came to the party late..you crowded the last two pages of this thread with your rubbish..please who is origi to win the balon d'or? you're even worst than the Ronaldo fans you're dragging here cos the main reason you're supporting origi for balon d'or is cos Ronaldo fans thinks VVD should be crowned..well from the rubbish you stated earlier about bale and benzema stepping up for Madrid in the semi final and final last season.. why didn't you support them for balon d'or last season cos origi did the same this year...no need to reply.. you're a deluded barca fan and a messi asslicker.

I didn't support them because none of them is as influential as Modric is for their Country . If Benzema won the World cup with France, he would be the undisputed Ballon d'or winner in 2018 especially if he score like 5 goals in the tournament!!!
Origi over that fraud (dribbling avoider) called VVD. In fact, Allison deserves the Ballon d'or more than that Van Viju!!!!!

OGHENAOGIE:
did you lamented like this when modric won the award...over a Ronaldo who was highest goal scorer in champions league
had highest MOTM award in champions league and la liga for Madrid
scored more goals for Portugal and scored four goals at the world cup despite going out at round 16...
modric who got to the final of world cup scored just three goals...
with modric winning it last year you fanatic Messi fans should know that the football World is tired of duopoly of Messi Ronaldo...
moreover VVD has a strong case he was voted PFA player of the year by his fellow EPL players who knows football than some of u fanatics out there and also the won the MVP in EPL...
At the champions league final he was MOTM yet you guys think he doesn't deserve it cos he is a defender after all
Messi did nothing spectacular like I said the same goals he was banging in la liga mbappe was banging In ligue one...even sterling,salah,mane,aubamayang were banging goals in EPL ronaldo to was scoring and won serie a...
let's be logical for once it will be football injustice to keep rewarding only attackers who score...
defenders stop goals too and VVD has not been dribbled in 64 games or so... he had just one yellow card and two yellow card in international...
last year a midfielder won
this year a defender would win
I hope a goalkeeper win too since its 1963 a goal keeper last won ballon dor....you Messi fans should quit this unnecessary emotional outbursts

Anybody who generalises like you do is simply intellectually myopic.

Where did you and I ever have a discussion where I told you that Modric deserved ballon dor over Ronaldo?

Just stop daydreaming, my support for the ballon dor for last year was Griezman.

He won the world cup, won the europa league and had some decent individual statistics.

The ballon dor is discretionary, there are no rules to it.

It is not strictly on trophies won.

It is not strictly on personal stats.

It is a blend of both most times.

That's why it is done by voting, based on individual discretion.

But I know some discretions are poor while some are good.

So stop hallucinating, not everyone thinks that Ronaldo is their Lord and personal saviour.

Now we are talking about 2019.


Based on stats and trophies, the only reason Messi is not everyone's number one for ballon dor 2019 as at June 1st is because his name is Messi.

eni4real:
Ronaldo is also creative but Messi make him look average in creativity!!!

Let's be sincere here, Ronaldo has far better teammates in the national teams in all departments!!! Don't forget the caliber of the coach too compared to Scaloni...

shut your gutters Oga.. which players in Portugal is better than Argentina players? let's start the comparison. Di Maria, icardi, dybala, higuain, Aguero etc.. don't lemme knock your bald leprosy ridden head.. goat.

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eni4real:
You have not said anything since. Just trahy defense mechanism. You think you know so much, but you overestimate yourself... If your premises is based on belittling the effort of Portugal teammates to praise Ronaldo. A player who won Euro 2016 as a handicap, then you are just a fan boy who will disappear from football discussions after Ronaldo retires...

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more trash
i don't do football novice please

kiss the truth

Laurene:
shut your gutters Oga.. which players in Portugal is better than Argentina players? let's start the comparison. Di Maria, icardi, dybala, higuain, Aguero etc.. don't lemme knock your bald leprosy ridden head.. goat.

See this one. You are insulting your country man because of a player that don't care if Buhari next level destroy you. Slave mentality!!

All the players you mentioned are attackers. How many attackers will Scaloni field at the same time
Argentina lacks Midfielders, defenders and Goalkeeper for now. They are of low quality compared to the attackers...
If you consider Dybala who has only 10 caps so far with 1 or 2 goals, a reliable player in Argentina then you are not following Argentina football!!!

As a Ronaldo fan, you should know Dybala better especially this season!!!

Patricio, Pepe, Cancelo, Bernaldo Silva, Joao Felix are more valuable for Portugal than those Argentina players for their national teams.

Answer these quickly:

How. Come Portugal qualify for the semi finals of the UFL without Ronaldo single participation??

How come Portugal won Euro 2016 final when Ronaldo was a handicap??

How come Portugal won the Bronze medal of Confederation cup when Ronaldo was absent in the squad??

How come Argentina cannot win games anytime Messi. Is not playing??

May be you are in 2014, Ronaldo presently has good teammates!!

While Messi has poor teammates nowadays. Unless you will make all attackers to fill midfield and Defence positions...

Higuain is the reason why i am having this argument with you tho...

SilasNwude:
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more trash
i don't do football novice please

kiss the truth

Lazy brain!!!

eni4real:
Why can't Didier Drogba win a single international trophy while Yaya Toure could Yaya Toure is far greater than Didier Drogba for Ivory Coast. Drogba is just a club Legend. Not even a single nation's cup

Look at u ...so u don't know yaya toure is greater than drogba... It's certain that u hv mental health issues

cr7lomo:


Look at u ...so u don't know yaya toure is greater than drogba... It's certain that u hv mental health issues

Yaya Toure is the greatest player in the history of Ivory Coast. Drogba is just a club player

Continue the insult. You are just radical for Ronaldo. I don't blame you. Slave will do anything to defend his master even if it comes to insulting those that don't overhype him!!
You will cease to exist after Ronaldo retirement tho.
See moniker of a Nigerian on Nairaland

eni4real:
How did Ronaldo win the last UCL with Madrid

Semi finals (both leg): Benzema goals
Final: Bale and Benzema!!!

Imagine if Benzema and Bale did not step up when Ronaldo was absent in those crucial games.

Messi is even the reason why Barcelona was leading 3 Nil from the 1st Leg..
People like you forgot his assist to Dembele in the 1st leg
People like you forgot how flop of a player Suarez have been in the UCL, Messi has been carrying the team from day 1. When it is time for his own Benzema and Bale to score, nobody show up despite his chance creation. Still you will blame Messi because he is supposed to be scoring and be defending at the same time... Like Origi, like Eder. Messi is just unlucky...

It's certain u lost ur brain at birth... trying to mk sense to you is like trying to educate a toad

cr7lomo:



It's certain u lost ur brain at birth... trying to mk sense to you is like trying to educate a toad

Ronaldo was absent in the 2 legs of the semi final in 2018. He was also invisible in the final.
Benzema bossed the semi finals
Bale bossed the final.

But nobody stepped up even after Messi bossed the 1st Leg of the 2019 UCL semi finals.
But according to you and other Ronaldo fans, he conceded 4 goals because he is Pique or Ter Stegen!!!

If my point is not clear to you, definitely you don't watch football!!

Mbappe is better than CR7 this season tho!!!

eni4real:
Ronaldo was absent in the 2 legs of the semi final in 2018. He was also invisible in the final.
Benzema bossed the semi finals
Bale bossed the final.

But nobody stepped up even after Messi bossed the 1st Leg of the 2019 UCL semi finals.
But according to you and other Ronaldo fans, he conceded 4 goals because he is Pique or Ter Stegen!!!

If my point is not clear to you, definitely you don't watch football!!

Mbappe is better than CR7 this season tho!!!

If benzema or bale messed up in the semi or final...that's when ronaldo wud hv taken control...and that's what messi doesn't hv

eni4real:
See this one. You are insulting your country man because of a player that don't care if Buhari next level destroy you. Slave mentality!!

All the players you mentioned are attackers. How many attackers will Scaloni field at the same time
Argentina lacks Midfielders, defenders and Goalkeeper for now. They are of low quality compared to the attackers...
If you consider Dybala who has only 10 caps so far with 1 or 2 goals, a reliable player in Argentina then you are not following Argentina football!!!

As a Ronaldo fan, you should know Dybala better especially this season!!!

Patricio, Pepe, Cancelo, Bernaldo Silva, Joao Felix are more valuable for Portugal than those Argentina players for their national teams.

Answer these quickly:

How. Come Portugal qualify for the semi finals of the UFL without Ronaldo single participation??

How come Portugal won Euro 2016 final when Ronaldo was a handicap??

How come Portugal won the Bronze medal of Confederation cup when Ronaldo was absent in the squad??

How come Argentina cannot win games anytime Messi. Is not playing??

May be you are in 2014, Ronaldo presently has good teammates!!

While Messi has poor teammates nowadays. Unless you will make all attackers to fill midfield and Defence positions...

Higuain is the reason why i am having this argument with you tho...

Bro you just spoilt my appetite with that meme of Higuain.

People no go like this truth wey you talk here sha

eni4real:
Ronaldo was absent in the 2 legs of the semi final in 2018. He was also invisible in the final.
Benzema bossed the semi finals
Bale bossed the final.

But nobody stepped up even after Messi bossed the 1st Leg of the 2019 UCL semi finals.
But according to you and other Ronaldo fans, he conceded 4 goals because he is Pique or Ter Stegen!!!

If my point is not clear to you, definitely you don't watch football!!

Mbappe is better than CR7 this season tho!!!

cr7lomo:


If benzema or bale messed up in the semi or final...that's when ronaldo wud hv taken control...and that's what messi doesn't hv

The same way Ronaldo would have stepped up if Ramos failed to score the 90+ minute goal in 2014 UCL final right

The best attributes of Ronaldo fans is to think that he is the reason why the team is winning the trophy. He has great contributions in front of goals, but he will not win those trophies without his teammates stepping up in crucial moments.

2008: Van Der Saar saves, John Terry slip
2014: Ramos 90+ minutes header
2016: Eder wonder goal when Ronaldo was handicapped
2018: Bale and Benzema in final and semi finals of 2018 UCL

I will not write about Marcelo and Carvajal tho. Reliable full backs with good supplies..

Football is a team sport.
If Messi teammates are not stepping up, that should not give any unintelligent folks right to bash him and praise Ronaldo for having teammates who compensate on his bad days..

Higuain is the reason why I am arguing this much tho:

tesppidd:
Bro you just spoilt my appetite with that meme of Higuain.

That of World cup final is even worse.
Origi will score that goal!!!

Do you even think before you type... Gosh

cr7lomo:


If benzema or bale messed up in the semi or final...that's when ronaldo wud hv taken control...and that's what messi doesn't hv

eni4real:
The same way Ronaldo would have stepped up if Ramos failed to score the 90+ minute goal in 2014 UCL final right

The best attributes of Ronaldo fans is to think that he is the reason why the team is winning the trophy. He has great contributions in front of goals, but he will not win those trophies without his teammates stepping up in crucial moments.

2008: Van Der Saar saves, John Terry slip
2014: Ramos 90+ minutes header
2016: Eder wonder goal when Ronaldo was handicapped
2018: Bale and Benzema in final and semi finals of 2018 UCL

I will not write about Marcelo and Carvajal tho. Reliable full backs with good supplies..

Football is a team sport.
If Messi teammates are not stepping up, that should not give any unintelligent folks right to bash him and praise Ronaldo for having teammates who compensate on his bad days..

Higuain is the reason why I am arguing this much tho:

Guy u no get talk...ur messi that missed penalty in the final ...y don't u blame him ...u messi fans are known all over the world as fake, biased and unintelligent