₦airaland Forum

anonymous1759:
... Shatap you, when the south east were doing back to Daura Issa Goal, Atiku Aguero, like for Atiku Share for Buhari. You didn't think twice. You guys called all manner of people coward. akpabio, Ambode etc These Men you insult have a better foresight than your intelligent Saraki. At least a Ministerial Appointment is waiting for them. You can't Reap what did not Sow. Happy wailing

swtdrms:
Nobody accomodates anybody in an arrangement like this. You are to accomodate yourself in a popular arrangement. South East doesn't have a say in an APC dominated arrangement due to its own misdoing. So who's to be blamed?

Any APC member who dare suggests an arrangement for South East in this 9th assembly would be looked up to like a fool, because there's no way he can justify his suggestion. Its better to go with whats politically correct/accurate.

Only if the party wants to cede some position to PDP, but that arrangement would have been calculated to be beneficial to APC as a party and negotiations well done

Smokezz:
The southeast are their own enemies..
A vivid example is the case of Peter Obi who was hand-picked by Atiku..
Instead of rallying around one of their own they were busy questioning why he was chosen without their consultation..

They need to learn to achieve more together than looking for individual glory..

The Hausa believes in Team play rather than individual honours..

iamjavadem:
Because igbos don’t know how to play politics.

Sluvist:
Igbo lacks any contribution into this administration, as such, they needs to focus more on improving their politics and business activities until the next election session. You can't reap where you didn't sow. Igbos and N)Delta stands as stronghold region to the opposition party, they should try to win election first before other thing.

post=79181092:
SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

We have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023", they don't want us in the National Assembly".
Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not barely finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

All these guys below have all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore.
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu!!

See ya NL!

emptor:
you can't eat your cake and have it again, southeast had a very good opportunity to take center stage in the affairs of this nation if they had given Peter obi and Atiku block vote,but no they want to see what the demonic APC and their Muslim agenda can offer them.you cannot embrace your enemy with your two hands round his back.wail till tomorrow nothing for you, instead go and sleep,put your house in order and wait for 2023

franchasng:
Stop crying more than the bereaved or are you a hired mourner

Igbos are not complaining. The generality and majority of Igbos don't even care who becomes senate president or deputy or speaker or whatever.

Igbos only wanted Buhari out because Buhari is a failure as a President. He failed himself, his family and Nigerians.

He failed in economy, he failed in security. He failed in uniting Nigeria, so what else remains

Stop listening to all these Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani corrupted APC politicians from Southeast using Igbo tribe's name to fight for their personal business and political relevance, Igbos don't care about them and their selfish fight.

Igbos are more concerned about peaceful division of Nigeria since Hausa-Fulanis and Yorubas hate Nigeria to develop and advance through fair and competent leadership of inclusiveness and honesty.

If Nigeria is working and advancing, Igbos won't be asking for freedom.

As a talented person, u cannot allow some dimwit retards to be undermining your potentials in the name of being in one group with them, common sense demands u separate from failures to be on your own and distinguish yourself by doing things your own way.

Is that not why music groups split

If 2face had remained with Plantazion Boys who would have seen his talent as seen today

Igbos want to be on their own to avoid Hausa-Fulanis and Yorubas holding them back from unleashing their great potentials not that we hate Hausa-Fulanis or Yorubas, it is for peace and progress to reign among every tribe

omohayek:
And you think the right answer to this is to agitate for your own kinsmen to be at the helm, rather than addressing the root issues of nepotism and excessive bureaucracy that make such abuses of power possible? No wonder Nigeria never seems to make any progress.

PrecisionFx:
SE aren't asking for anything.

U wey yoruba man don be president for 8 years n another yoruba don be vice president foe 4 years, wetin u don gain?

NickD:
Political correctness one of the major problems we have among the citizenry.

KanuSE:
No one is holding you back but yourself. It's profitable to take responsibility for your actions so you can tread carefully and not fall victim of the same errors.

Secondly, I don't think the igboz are ready for secession in any shape or form coz you guys lack leadership& followership skills as y'all routinely fail to have a rallying figure. You guys hardly speak with one strong voice and that's your weakest link. Numbers is just as irrelevant as it is important except a people demonstrate the unity of purpose - take Israel for example.

If you think secession can be actualised or it is the solution, you guys(Igbo) should do a mock secession - I mean mass return to the SE and see if everyone will not take you seriously.

helinues:
Pdp should accommodate them now.
You can't reap where you did not sown

swtdrms:
Are you sure you are not asking for anything abi u don't have the moral standing to ask for anything. But you do complain of marginalisation almost everytime, blaming others for your misfortune.

The fact is, every block wants to be included in every political arrangement, "wetin we don gain" is another thing entirely. During the military era, the yorubas clamoured for democracy, reason which include having the opportunity to aspire for presidency. Same reasons every block aspire to be part of every governing body.

So bros leave that talk o jare and play your card well, and stop disturbing other ethnic entities with your wailing.

shox:
I can't just imagine how the region that has such a low voting power manage to make so much noise.

If the southeast can demand, then I think the tiv people can also demand at least they're more Nigerian and patriotic


Don't quote me. Ayam not feeling fine

KanuSE:
No one is holding you back but yourself. It's profitable to take responsibility for your actions so you can tread carefully and not fall victim of the same errors.

Secondly, I don't think the igboz are ready for secession in any shape or form coz you guys lack leadership& followership skills as y'all routinely fail to have a rallying figure. You guys hardly speak with one strong voice and that's your weakest link. Numbers is just as irrelevant as it is important except a people demonstrate the unity of purpose - take Israel for example.

If you think secession can be actualised or it is the solution, you guys(Igbo) should do a mock secession - I mean mass return to the SE and see if everyone will not take you seriously.

safetyInspector:
As much as the majority of South East are in PDP but their APC members put a good show for President Buhari in the last election. Compare 2019 to 2015 presidential election you will notice that they performed much better than their South West counterparts. Buhari got more votes from South East in 2019 than in 2015 and the reverse was the case in South West. They deserved to be appreciated if APC is a party of equity. NASS leadership is a way of appreciating good party member, it is directly of no value to a region as a whole. Even Kwara State as we know is a cesspit yet Saraki was a Senate President. All the positions are for personal gain so APC should be reasonable enough to appreciate their co-party members who stood by them against all odds.

PrecisionFx:
Long baseless posts.


IGBOS don't care about any post, we didn't beg anyone to give us posts. The people wey don rule for decades from sw n north, how their life dey today? Which of their region is better developed than SE?

KanuSE:
No one is holding you back but yourself. It's profitable to take responsibility for your actions so you can tread carefully and not fall victim of the same errors.

Secondly, I don't think the igboz are ready for secession in any shape or form coz you guys lack leadership& followership skills as y'all routinely fail to have a rallying figure. You guys hardly speak with one strong voice and that's your weakest link. Numbers is just as irrelevant as it is important except a people demonstrate the unity of purpose - take Israel for example.


If you think secession can be actualised or it is the solution, you guys(Igbo) should do a mock secession - I mean mass return to the SE and see if everyone will not take you seriously.

bixton:
Truth be told. .....
Please point to the developments in the better developed SE?
I hope those better developments are meaningful..........

PrecisionFx:
There is nothing to point.

Leave ogbomosho for once n see places for ur self

bixton:

Topshow2010:
The Igbos are alwaz quick to shout marginalisation and federal character when things dont go their way but they are alwaz d most culpable on such accusation.
Imagine the recruitment of House officers and other interns in arguably all federal teaching hospitals located at d east ; hardly would u see just a name from other part of d country and yet they would alwaz be quick to shout of marginalisation. Bunch of hypocrites

franchasng:
Which lie Igbos never supported Buhari and wi never do till eternity!

And of course I said and I will repeat it, Igbos never wanted Buhari to be Nigeria's President because he is a failure from his first attempt.

He failed himself, his family and Nigerians.

Buhari is and was never fit to become Nigeria's President.

In a sane nation with majority of sane citizens, Buhari can only be the head of his tribe or a small village clan. What quality qualifies him to become democratic President under democracy

I never denied the fact that Igbos don't like Buhari to become President because he is too tribalistic, too clanish, a religious extremist, a fundamentalist, a recessionist, and very opinionated (does not take sound advice, believes he is a savior doing people favor), and highly unforgiven.

So Igbos wanted him out, and he lost but he rigged himself in. If Nigeria had a sound judicial system, Buhari will be chased out.