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Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by ogbonti: 8:44am On Jun 19, 2019
9jaRealist:
You do understand how tariffs work, don’t you? shocked

Tariffs are a TAX on the consumer, so it only makes consumer goods from Mexico more expensive as well as US goods produced with Mexican components (such as US automobiles). Even Republicans in Congress kicked against Mexican tariffs and were set to vote it down - before Trump backed down and began touting an agreement agreed to last year (2018) as a “new” deal.
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lol CNN over viewer spotted, tarrif bla bla bla vote it down bla blabla, BUT mexico caved and 7,000 mexican troops blocking their southern border
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by Nobody: 8:54am On Jun 19, 2019
goslowgoslow:
It simply means he lied! Why is Mexico not paying for it? You can help him with a simple answer.
And are you aware he has kept more than 95% of his campaign promises? What percentage has your own country's President kept?
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by ogbonti: 8:58am On Jun 19, 2019
hermesprogidy:
Ergo America is paying for the non existent wall. Unless you don't understand how tariffs work.
non existent wall in your CNN controlled mind, boy, that structure is going up fast, because Trump knows without it, no re-election for him

Tarrifs as defined by CNN, But here is how it works - Mexico pays heavy fines, (Tarrifs) the US treasury cash in to care for the illegal migrants before they get deported back, which ICE (according to Trump) is starting a mass deportation drive in a few days.

The US is a free market economy, if the prices of Mexican goods increase, the local substitutes for such goods will get a look in or non-tarrifed substitutes from other places like Brazil or Panama gets a look by the consumer. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head to buy mexican goods. I discovered how American consumers think some 15 years ago, when a 99 cents store moved into my neighborhood. Do you know the one dollar store by the corner lost all her customers to the 99 cents store and they had to pack up? DAMN IT, you dont know Americans. If your goods prices increase, nobody will see TRUMP while paying at the cash register, they see your goods getting unfairly increased and they will move on to other things- and you, whose goods prices got increased will feel the pinch of the consumer's decision to move on to other products.

It is Mexico that will have to make a decision if allowing Migrants from all over the world come in thru their country is enough "benefit" for them to incur the "cost" of tarrif from the US

Let me school u a bit on tarrifs, using Nigeria as an example. When Obasanjo during his military regime banned "Hollandis" and other foreign fabrics, and imposed tarrifs on foreign wine in 1978 - while nationalizing some multinational companies in Nigeria , did you hear that Nigeria went into recession then? HECK NO - Nigerians who couldnt afford the european wine like Campari switched to local substitute gin like Seaman's Aromatic schnapps... and even locally brewed beer like SKOL, Gulder, Harp and Star Lager Beer.

TRUMP is not your everyday "hungry" politician - He is just having fun doing what he loves doing. Most of those people kicking against him - even republicans in congress get campaign donations from special interest or lobbyist loyal to mexico, so never judge their behavior as a rebuttal of every day Americans to TRUMP's policies.

we his disciples know him and we know he is working for us, thats all that matters - thank you!
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by goslowgoslow(m): 2:12pm On Jun 19, 2019
kaorama:
And are you aware he has kept more than 95% of his campaign promises? What percentage has your own country's President kept?
What is the basis of your comparison? He promised on how something will be done but did not fufil it, you are here comparing.
The simple question I asked as to why he couldn't get Mexico to pay for it you cannot answer, you are busy saying another thing that is irrelevant.
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by Nobody: 2:14pm On Jun 19, 2019
goslowgoslow:
What is the basis of your comparison? He promised on how something will be done but did not fufil it, you are here comparing.
Pls tell me one campaign promise Trump hasn't kept
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by goslowgoslow(m): 2:17pm On Jun 19, 2019
kaorama:
Pls tell me one campaign promise Trump hasn't kept
You people divert issues, typical Nigerian way. Answer my question on the basis if the particular issue- The wall!
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by Nobody: 2:23pm On Jun 19, 2019
goslowgoslow:
You people divert issues, typical Nigerian way. Answer my question on the basis if the particular issue- The wall!
Of course, you can't engage in an objective debate cos of petty prejudice. Trump is building the wall and cos he is not building it with Mexico money is why he is not having 100% from me. Hey, 95% is unmatched. Just mind your thoughts when you are angry with people's progress. How I wish your dullard President has 15%
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by goslowgoslow(m): 2:26pm On Jun 19, 2019
kaorama:
Of course, you can't engage in an objective debate cos of petty prejudice. Trump is building the wall and cos he is not building it with Mexico money is why he is not having 100% from me. Hey, 95% is unmatched. Just mind your thoughts when you are angry with people's progress. How I wish your dullard President has 15%
Angry with which progress? It is obvious you have no answer to my question and I hate when people divert issues. Stop typing thrash!!! Bye!!
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jun 19, 2019
goslowgoslow:
Angry with which progress? It is obvious you have no answer to my question and I hate when people divert issues. Stop typing thrash!!! Bye!!
Please try and take some rest. And don't stop taking your drugs abeg. The line between despair and depression is so thin.
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by 9jaRealist: 3:05pm On Jun 19, 2019
ogbonti:
lol CNN over viewer spotted, tarrif bla bla bla vote it down bla blabla, BUT mexico caved and 7,000 mexican troops blocking their southern border
Nope, Mexico didn’t “cave”...
Both sides reaffirmed an agreement reached last year - and it had NOTHING to do with tariffs.

Meanwhile, I do not need CNN or even FOX or whatever to feed me with opinions - because I am an EDUCATED person, and the one great capacity that EDUCATION (to be differentiated from certificate - just in case you are confused) bequeaths is the ability to use various sources to reach INDEPENDENT conclusions or form INDEPENDENT opinions. So, unlike you who seems to be regurgitating the White House and Dotard Trump (not entirely your fault, as I suspect that you are a victim of Nigeria’s cram-and-regurgitate “repeat after me” schooling cheesy), I INDEPENDENTLY understand the effect of tariffs - unlike Trump who thinks that Mexico (and China) are the parties paying US tariffs! SMH
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Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by goslowgoslow(m): 3:08pm On Jun 19, 2019
kaorama:
Please try and take some rest. And don't stop taking your drugs abeg. The line between despair and depression is so thin.
Lol.......olodo cheesy cheesy
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by amaniro: 3:15pm On Jun 19, 2019
Afamed:
I thought you are reasonable enough. Which platform did PMB promise 1$ per N1?
Check his fuckkking 2015 promises
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by ogbonti: 3:44pm On Jun 19, 2019
9jaRealist:
Nope, Mexico didn’t “cave”...
Both sides reaffirmed an agreement reached last year - and it had NOTHING to do with tariffs.

Meanwhile, I do not need CNN or even FOX or whatever to feed me with opinions - because I am an EDUCATED person, and the one great capacity that EDUCATION (to be differentiated from certificate - just in case you are confused) bequeaths is the ability to use various sources to reach INDEPENDENT conclusions or form INDEPENDENT opinions. So, unlike you who seems to be regurgitating the White House and Dotard Trump (not entirely your fault, as I suspect that you are a victim of Nigeria’s cram-and-regurgitate “repeat after me” schooling cheesy), I INDEPENDENTLY understand the effect of tariffs - unlike Trump who thinks that Mexico (and China) are the parties paying US tariffs! SMHg
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Guy. Shorrop there and stop rambling and mumbling nonesensicals, you unstable and reta rded Liberal . Na people like you make Fela sing say:

"My brother make you no follow booku, sit down and use your sense"

Lmao, I laugh in Ijaw, you say if I understand the rubbish you are typing here because you are very educated. All I see is ignorance! Guy, I had my first degree in Nigeria, 2 masters degrees here in the USA and by God''s grace, (him sparring my life) I am about 2 semesters away from getting my PhD also here in the USA. So when you brag about education here, endeavor to know your audience!

Let me simplify the discussion by using an analogy to explain why I know Mexico caved, which you "the education man" ignorantly refutes.

For instance, you owe me 50 naira, which you borrowed from me last year, and you promised to pay, with no timeline.

I asked you to pay back and you promise to pay, but you never paid back. Then I threatened that if by Monday, you don't pay the money, I will burn your car. I made that statement on Thursday, and by Saturday, you sent your brother to me, that you have agreed to give me that money in 2 weeks, with interest and if you dont, I can burn your car. Just to make sure I know you are serious, you sent me information of your pay stubb to encourage me that indeed you will pay in 2 weeks

WHO HERE THINKS YOU DIDN'T CAVE?

I hope your brain is working to under stand what I just typed?

The only way Mexico would have claimed not to cave is to wait for Monday and see what happens, nope, they came and reaffirmed that within 45 days, if Trump is not satisfied with their effort, the tarrifs can kick in

They promised to send 6,000 troops to their southern Border with Guatemala..As I am chatting here. There are 7,000 Mexican marines ( 1,000 more than Mexico initially agreed to send) preventing illegal crossing's from GuateMala, less than one week of signing the pact.

Yes, Mexico did not cave, but the fear of next Monday hastened their troops to the border, which they didn't do since the agreement (which you claimed was signed since last year)


LIBERALISM IS AN ACUTE MENTAL ILLNESS, it makes you unreasonable even with an abundant latitude of evidence!
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by 9jaRealist:
ogbonti:
Guy. Shorrop there and stop rambling and mumbling nonesensicals, you unstable and reta rded Liberal . Na people like you make Fela sing say:

"My brother make you no follow booku, sit down and use your sense"

Lmao, I laugh in Ijaw, you say if I understand the rubbish you are typing here because you are very educated. All I see is ignorance! Guy, I had my first degree in Nigeria, 2 masters degrees here in the USA and by God''s grace, (him sparring my life) I am about 2 semesters away from getting my PhD also here in the USA. So when you brag about education here, endeavor to know your audience!

Let me simplify the discussion by using an analogy to explain why I know Mexico caved, which you "the education man" ignorantly refutes.

For instance, you owe me 50 naira, which you borrowed from me last year, and you promised to pay, with no timeline.

I asked you to pay back and you promise to pay, but you never paid back. Then I threatened that if by Monday, you don't pay the money, I will burn your car. I made that statement on Thursday, and by Saturday, you sent your brother to me, that you have agreed to give me that money in 2 weeks, with interest and if you dont, I can burn your car. Just to make sure I know you are serious, you sent me information of your pay stubb to encourage me that indeed you will pay in 2 weeks

WHO HERE THINKS YOU DIDN'T CAVE?

I hope your brain is working to under stand what I just typed?

The only way Mexico would have claimed not to cave is to wait for Monday and see what happens, nope, they came and reaffirmed that within 45 days, if Trump is not satisfied with their effort, the tarrifs can kick in

They promised to send 6,000 troops to their southern Border with Guatemala..As I am chatting here. There are 7,000 Mexican marines ( 1,000 more than Mexico initially agreed to send) preventing illegal crossing's from GuateMala, less than one week of signing the pact.

Yes, Mexico did not cave, but the fear of next Monday hastened their troops to the border, which they didn't do since the agreement (which you claimed was signed since last year)

LIBERALISM IS AN ACUTE MENTAL ILLNESS, it makes you unreasonable even with an abundant latitude of evidence!
Degrees are certificates, not an education...
The fact that you obviously cannot tell the difference is proof of that! grin

Meanwhile, could not be bothered to read your dissertation...
There will NOT be a new Border Wall. PERIOD!! And next year, we’ll rid ourselves of the Disgraceful Dotard! grin
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Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by ogbonti:
9jaRealist:
Degrees are certificates, not an education...
The fact that you obviously cannot tell the difference is proof of that! grin

Meanwhile, could not be bother to read your dissertation...
There will NOT be a new Border Wall. PERIOD!! And next year, we’ll rid ourselves of the Disgraceful Dotard! grin
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Degrees are proof that the recipient completed the basic minimum academic, cognitive and behavioral requirement to be regarded as "educated". To you, they are mere pieces of paper because you don't have, hence you don't value it.

Proof you are uneducated is that you cannot be disciplined enough to read a few paragraphs. So how can you read a book?

You are proof that "WHENEVER YOU WANT TO HIDE SOMETHING FROM AN IGNORANT MAN, PUT IT IN WRITING, HE WON'T READ IT:

Baggarrh! grin


While you a here talking trash. Trump''s emergency fund is busy building the wall. Shows you don't know what's going on in America except what fake news CNN tells u grin
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by hermesprogidy(m): 7:53pm On Jun 19, 2019
ogbonti:
non existent wall in your CNN controlled mind, boy, that structure is going up fast, because Trump knows without it, no re-election for him

Tarrifs as defined by CNN, But here is how it works - Mexico pays heavy fines, (Tarrifs) the US treasury cash in to care for the illegal migrants before they get deported back, which ICE (according to Trump) is starting a mass deportation drive in a few days.

The US is a free market economy, if the prices of Mexican goods increase, the local substitutes for such goods will get a look in or non-tarrifed substitutes from other places like Brazil or Panama gets a look by the consumer. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head to buy mexican goods. I discovered how American consumers think some 15 years ago, when a 99 cents store moved into my neighborhood. Do you know the one dollar store by the corner lost all her customers to the 99 cents store and they had to pack up? DAMN IT, you dont know Americans. If your goods prices increase, nobody will see TRUMP while paying at the cash register, they see your goods getting unfairly increased and they will move on to other things- and you, whose goods prices got increased will feel the pinch of the consumer's decision to move on to other products.

It is Mexico that will have to make a decision if allowing Migrants from all over the world come in thru their country is enough "benefit" for them to incur the "cost" of tarrif from the US

Let me school u a bit on tarrifs, using Nigeria as an example. When Obasanjo during his military regime banned "Hollandis" and other foreign fabrics, and imposed tarrifs on foreign wine in 1978 - while nationalizing some multinational companies in Nigeria , did you hear that Nigeria went into recession then? HECK NO - Nigerians who couldnt afford the european wine like Campari switched to local substitute gin like Seaman's Aromatic schnapps... and even locally brewed beer like SKOL, Gulder, Harp and Star Lager Beer.

TRUMP is not your everyday "hungry" politician - He is just having fun doing what he loves doing. Most of those people kicking against him - even republicans in congress get campaign donations from special interest or lobbyist loyal to mexico, so never judge their behavior as a rebuttal of every day Americans to TRUMP's policies.

we his disciples know him and we know he is working for us, thats all that matters - thank you!
Congratulations troglodyte, you just wrote a load of crap, mixed with lies. Trump will be proud of you.
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by hermesprogidy(m): 7:55pm On Jun 19, 2019
9jaRealist:
Degrees are certificates, not an education...
The fact that you obviously cannot tell the difference is proof of that! grin

Meanwhile, could not be bother to read your dissertation...
There will NOT be a new Border Wall. PERIOD!! And next year, we’ll rid ourselves of the Disgraceful Dotard! grin
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I concur.
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by ogbonti: 11:00pm On Jun 19, 2019
hermesprogidy:
Congratulations troglodyte, you just wrote a load of crap, mixed with lies. Trump will be proud of you.
Deportation. .... e pain am grin
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by hermesprogidy(m): 6:05am On Jun 20, 2019
ogbonti:
Deportation. .... e pain am grin
What does that even mean? Is that a troglodyte catchphrase?
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by trapQ: 7:45am On Jun 20, 2019
Trash!

Why are you crying all over the place because I responded with the same energy you did? You can't go insulting someone first and when they hit back you begin crying like a convulsing kid. That is reflective of both emotional instability and oligodendrocyte deficiency in your brain cells.

How is referring to an immigrant an alien mockery? Who made that work offensive? Do you know English better than the British who have that word and even refer to unnaturalized migrants as aliens?

Keep embarrassing yourself.
Duggedised12:
They were once aliens before they naturalized ,its like mocking the very same process through which you came in, that is the point.

[s]By the way, I am not the cause of your frustration, stop throwing a fist like a teenager , communicate like a mentally balanced human being and stop barking insults like a rabied dog, not that I am moved by them tho, but I feel you should calm down and sort your self out, this world is big enough to handle whatever problem is making you lash out .

Find peace bro, I dont know where you live but its 6:57am in Nigeria and its too early to be sounding like this, you sound pained and frustrated and drained undecided undecided [/s]
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by Duggedised12(f):
trapQ:
Trash!

Why are you crying all over the place because I responded with the same energy you did? You can't go insulting someone first and when they hit back you begin crying like a convulsing kid. That is reflective of both emotional instability and oligodendrocyte deficiency in your brain cells.How is referring to an immigrant an alien mockery? Who made that work offensive? Do you know English better than the British who have that word and even refer to unnaturalized migrants as aliens?

Keep embarrassing yourself.
cry? Hahaha, you are a rabied dog ,so I can understand, if you like use big grammar to hide your frustration,I know your type,they turn online psychologist in the blink of an eye just to appear smart and win an insignificant online argument but deep down they are just some miserable human behind the keyboard hoping to feel important.

These barkings of yours mean nothing to me bro, you are just another john doe as far as I am concerned ,and to think you were looking for a fight when the initial conversation didn't even involve you shows you really have issues .

Oligodendrocyte defincency ,emotional instability blah blah blah, grin lol ,so you deduced all of that from my comment ,wow! I am impressed ,I hope you also diagnose yourself and go for proper treatment too grin grin, this your case is not ordinary . Hahahaha mad man,keep barking ! tongue tongue tongue.bye bingo grin grin grin
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by holywind(m): 11:56am On Jun 20, 2019
dannybrasky:
Digging underground tunnels is the way to go for Mexicans!! grin
diz guy u be baaaaaahd guy hahahahahahahahaha
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by dannybrasky(m): 1:07pm On Jun 20, 2019
As my grandpa use to say,ANYWAY IS A WAY grin


holywind:
diz guy u be baaaaaahd guy hahahahahahahahaha
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by ogbonti: 2:04pm On Jun 20, 2019
hermesprogidy:
Congratulations troglodyte, you just wrote a load of crap, mixed with lies. Trump will be proud of you.
I got your sniper ready for the Trump Landslide next year grin
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by hermesprogidy(m): 6:42pm On Jun 20, 2019
ogbonti:
I got your sniper ready for the Trump Landslide next year grin
Got a truckload of prozac for you, when Trump is swallowed by a landslide.
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by ogbonti: 6:57pm On Jun 20, 2019
hermesprogidy:
Got a truckload of prozac for you, when Trump is swallowed by a landslide.
No wayo, this thread book marked!
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by hermesprogidy(m): 9:46pm On Jun 20, 2019
ogbonti:
No wayo, this thread book marked!
Game on!
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by ogbonti: 5:16am On Jun 21, 2019
hermesprogidy:
Game on!
Gerraarraahia, Obubuyaya man, fake commentator grin
Re: US Government Starts Building Border Wall by hermesprogidy(m): 6:25pm On Jun 21, 2019
ogbonti:
Gerraarraahia, Obubuyaya man, fake commentator grin
Lol
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