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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:45pm On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Even Jorginho can do that grin

What sets Xavi out is doing the simple pass as well as keeping an eye upfront for movement for a through pass

Don't compare Xavi to Alcantara pls
Thiago Alcantara also gives brilliant Eagle eyed passes. I said they are similar in style. Not comparing them, although I do not think Thiago is far off and the young man has achieved a lot.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:49pm On Jun 22, 2019
Danielnino00:
With Chukwueze and Musa on the wings plus Iwobi and Mikel in midfield there's no doubt that we will create enough goal scoring chances today.... Let's hope Ighalo converts them..

And on a a more serious note, I hope Rohr will give the attackers the freedom to shoot at goal...not every ball should be passed to the striker..
Against Seychelles in Asaba I saw how they were all trying to get the ball to Ighalo just to help his quest for top scorer award.......
in misses penalghalo, even with avalanche of chances, I don't expect much from him. with the much creativity our wings and midfield promise, I would have someone who knows how to hit target lead the line, someone who can run through the channels, unfortunately, these two qualities elude ighalo, hence my picks are osimhen and onuachu
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by comodo: 12:50pm On Jun 22, 2019
Good news: Kalu has received all clear to participate by CAF medics.
Bad news is, many SE players are still down. Musa, Ighalo, Balogun, Shehu, & others not mentioned yet. Like Aina. Waiting to confirm his fitness tho. Periwinkle don tie wrapper my pipu.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake3: 12:50pm On Jun 22, 2019
darkelf:
Please expatiate further on this. I've seen many guys use it here. Thanks
Can I, yes

Xavi calculates how much time it takes for a through pass to reach a player whether he will be offside or not

He also calculates how many touches he can take in a small space before he is closed down

That's why his game is so simple
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:50pm On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Even Jorginho can do that grin

What sets Xavi out is doing the simple pass as well as keeping an eye upfront for movement for a through pass

Don't compare Xavi to Alcantara pls
Thiago can do that but not at the level of peak Xavi. I think that's what TheGoodJoe is talking about.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake3: 12:51pm On Jun 22, 2019
edi287:
Thiago can do that but not at the level of peak Xavi. I think that's what TheGoodJoe is talking about.
He doesn't do it frequently as De bruyne or Ozil to warrant a comparison
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:54pm On Jun 22, 2019
SerVik:
If this argument is about who the better footballer is, it is clearly dinho. His talent level was off the charts.

If however, it is about who understands the game more, then it is xavi all day everyday. xavi's understanding of the game is second to none. His utilization of the concept of time and space was a delight to watch.

Let me put it this way. If xavi and ronaldinho where to go into coaching, who do you think would make the better coach?
Xavi is guardiola level brilliant
Agree but I don't think he'll be a great coach. Being a great coach isn't solely about understanding the game but being able to impart that knowledge on players.
I also haven't forgiven him for saying Henry was just a physical player and lacked technical ability. Let's not forget he has bigged up a number of flops i.e Samper, etc.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:54pm On Jun 22, 2019
darkelf:
Please expatiate further on this. I've seen many guys use it here. Thanks
When a player has space, he has time to make decisions that can cause damage to the opposition. A good example is France 98, Ronald De Boer vs Carlos in the Brazil - Netherlands game. During the game, De Boer was dribbling Carlos repeatedly and giving crosses to Kluivert who kept getting closer with dangerous nods but could not score.

Mario Zagallo, coach of Brazil ordered Carlos to leave De Boer since he could not stop him and go and stop the headers of Kluivert. This tactical calculation proved a mistake because when De Boer got the ball, he had the Space, which in turn gave him time to pick an accurate cross and Kluivert buried the header in the goal in between Carlos legs.

The concept is spending time looking for players who are not marked, free. These players will have the time to cause problems to the opposition.

As Xavi plays, he looks for players who are free whether defence or attack, full back and midfielders. With time, the team gets to create deadly chances to score.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:56pm On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
He doesn't do it frequently as De bruyne or Ozil to warrant a comparison
Controlling a game or giving the final ball?? If it's giving the final ball - the likes of Cesc and Ozil are better at that than Xavi too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:57pm On Jun 22, 2019
edi287:
Agree but I don't think he'll be a great coach. Being a great coach isn't solely about understanding the game but being able to impart that knowledge on players.
I also haven't forgiven him for saying Henry was just a physical player and lacked technical ability. Let's not forget he has bigged up a number of flops i.e Samper, etc.
Why I feel Xavi will be exceptional is simply his in depth understanding of the philosophy. You can not impact what you do jot understand. Keep in mind as a midfielder, he led Barca a number of times in orchestrating the play.

You will not find a better person who understands the philosophy in depth as Xavi. Which makes him clearly the best person to pass it on.

As long as Xavi can teach a team to keep the ball for a long time just as he did and his understanding of formidable attackers to use the chances, the possibilities are huge.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 12:58pm On Jun 22, 2019
comodo:
Good news: Kalu has received all clear to participate by CAF medics.
Bad news is, many SE players are still down. Musa, Ighalo, Balogun, Shehu, & others not mentioned yet. Like Aina. Waiting to confirm his fitness tho. Periwinkle don tie wrapper my pipu.
Na Rohr won't risk it. He has already said he'll start the fitness players.
So Samu and Onyekuru/Iwobi will most likely start
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 1:02pm On Jun 22, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Why I feel Xavi will be exceptional is simply his in depth understanding of the philosophy. You can not impact what you do jot understand. Keep in mind as a midfielder, he led Barca a number of times in orchestrating the play.

You will not find a better person who understands the philosophy in depth as Xavi. Which makes him clearly the best person to pass it on.

As long as Xavi can teach a team to keep the ball for a long time just as he did and his understanding of formidable attackers to use the chances, the possibilities are huge.
True. Let's see what he does with Barca B when the time comes...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by nelszx: 1:02pm On Jun 22, 2019
If this is anything to go by; our XI vs Burundi
4-3-3 formation
Looking forward to seeing what Chukwueze will do today.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:03pm On Jun 22, 2019
Africa my Africa

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:06pm On Jun 22, 2019
nelszx:
If this is anything to go by; our XI vs Burundi
Looking forward to seeing what Chukwueze will do today.
If this starting 11 is to be believed then I think Rhor is a very fair coach, after several report of Onuachu playing very well in training, benching Jude for him is a very bold and good decision
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 1:09pm On Jun 22, 2019
nelszx:
If this is anything to go by; our XI vs Burundi
4-3-3 formation
Looking forward to seeing what Chukwueze will do today.
I would've started Onyekuru. He need someone to make runs in behind. I guess that will Etebo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:11pm On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Zidane abandoned his team in 2006 world cup finals
Xavi went to hide at the 2014 world cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:11pm On Jun 22, 2019
Earthquake3:
Pele, Delima seriously?
E bi like say you no know anything. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 1:12pm On Jun 22, 2019
jihday:
Africa my Africa
I thought I wrote somewhere that the DRC FA is made up of f**ls?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:13pm On Jun 22, 2019
Danielnino00:
Abeg what kind of sickness is it exactly ?

At first it was Omeruo and Etebo that fell sick after we played Zimbabwe under the heavy rain in Asaba.. ...
over half of the team fell ill once they landed in Egypt
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SerVik(m): 1:16pm On Jun 22, 2019
darkelf:
Please expatiate further on this. I've seen many guys use it here. Thanks
If you are a student of cruyff, the most important part of your play is your ability to interpret the space-time concept.

A football pitch covers a certain area. Coaches try as much as possible to cover this area using formations, in such a way that every player has a certain space within which to operate. A coach might get his formation right but a player who doesn't get this space concept will always leave alot of space for opponents to exploit.

That is where xavi and his knowledge of space comes in. Xavi does the cruyff turn alot not because he enjoys turninoninown but because he knows that as soon as he makes that turn, he has succeeded in drawing two or three midfielders out of the space they are naturally supposed to occupy and he exploits this opening perfectly with his pin point passes.
If you watch that video I quoted, every time xavi controls the ball, he controls into space. When he dribbles, he does so to create space.

About time, this has to do with when a player arrives into space and when the ball reaches that player. It Is not enough to create space, you have to get the ball into that space at just the right time else the opponent is going to block the space. Xavi knows exactly when to release the pass. That is his time sense.

First you create space, then you get the ball into that space at the right time. That is the space-time concept in football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by phamarsenal: 1:17pm On Jun 22, 2019
Wat kinda sickness is dis one....are we d only team in Egypt...no balogun, musa, ighalo, or even kalu in d starting line up jst pray dey have enough to take down Burundi..to may debutants and inexperience on d field if u ask me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:20pm On Jun 22, 2019
ChrisKels:
in misses penalghalo, even with avalanche of chances, I don't expect much from him. with the much creativity our wings and midfield promise, I would have someone who knows how to hit target lead the line, someone who can run through the channels, unfortunately, these two qualities elude ighalo, hence my picks are osimhen and onuachu
Osimhen and Onuachu are yet to achieve what Ighalo has achieved in professional football at the highest level.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by lexyman(m): 1:20pm On Jun 22, 2019
jihday:
over half of the team fell ill once they landed in Egypt
its important to eat good food .... grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:20pm On Jun 22, 2019
comodo:
Good news: Kalu has received all clear to participate by CAF medics.
Bad news is, many SE players are still down. Musa, Ighalo, Balogun, Shehu, & others not mentioned yet. Like Aina. Waiting to confirm his fitness tho. Periwinkle don tie wrapper my pipu.
That's a good one. Hope he starts tonight.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by klexycole(m): 1:20pm On Jun 22, 2019
edi287:
I would've started Onyekuru. He need someone to make runs in behind. I guess that will Etebo.
Baba no won unleash all his weapons of mass destruction at once. cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by ChrisKels: 1:22pm On Jun 22, 2019
forgiveness:
Osimhen and Onuachu are yet to achieve what Ighalo has achieved in professional football at the highest level.
no one is disputing that fact, but sorry ,presently, ighalo has nothing on those two.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by edi287: 1:23pm On Jun 22, 2019
klexycole:
Baba no won unleash all his weapons of mass destruction at once. cheesy
Lol. But Musa can come in last 10 - 15 minutes instead.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:27pm On Jun 22, 2019
ChrisKels:
no one is disputing that fact, but sorry ,presently, ighalo has nothing on those two.
Even now, Ighalo is still far ahead.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by SerVik(m): 1:28pm On Jun 22, 2019
edi287:
Agree but I don't think he'll be a great coach. Being a great coach isn't solely about understanding the game but being able to impart that knowledge on players.
I also haven't forgiven him for saying Henry was just a physical player and lacked technical ability. Let's not forget he has bigged up a number of flops i.e Samper, etc.
I have zero doubts about xavi's understanding of the game, where I have little doubts is his ability to recognize talents.

I have seen so many xavi interviews where he called some average midfielders his heir, and how they possess 'barca DNA.'

Sure he has alot to learn, he just recently received his UEFA coaching license and I think he has been given the coaching role in his Saudi Arabian club. Let's see how it goes.

But bro, if you're going to feel that way about xavi based on what he said, how did you feel about Henry when he said he started learning how to play football under guardiola?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 1:28pm On Jun 22, 2019
This is why it is nice to av a good bench. Imagine this strange sickness hitting the 2014 WC squad before the tournament
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:30pm On Jun 22, 2019
Clementoke:
This is why it is nice to av a good bench. Imagine this strange sickness hitting the 2014 WC squad before the tournament
Na TKO be dat. grin
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