elated177:



The teaching/statement/assertion above, did you learn it at the bible school or from the Scripture?

Yes. It is scriptural

Originakalokalo:


There is a gift called discerning of the spirit. It's one of the spiritual gifts given by the Holy Spirit.

This is not the part. This part is scriptural. The gift of discernment is scriptural.

Originakalokalo:


I have read about someone who could hold your wrist and know the demons that are present in a body.

A deliverance minister uses this guy in his team before he ministers deliverance to anyone.

Yes. By the power of the Holy Spirit, these demons can be detected..However, It is not possible with the physical senses.

This is the part. The mode of application of the spirit of discernment, as you highlighted here, is it scriptural?

elated177:


This is the part. The mode of application of the spirit of discernment, as you highlighted here, is it scriptural?

God is not limited to any mode of application.

He can use any method. Derek Prince felt a tightening in his stomach as a sign that a demon is present.

William Braham felt a vibration in his hands.

Some will just KNOW.

. He is God and he is unlimited.

Originakalokalo:


God is not limited to any mode of application.

He can use any method. Derek Prince felt a tightening in his stomach as a sign that a demon is present.

William Braham felt a vibration in his hands.

Some will just KNOW.

. He is God and he is unlimited.

Please, stick to the Scriptures. Don't drag people's name into this.

Show me from the Scriptures where the assertion below was even remotely supported.



"I have read about someone who could hold your wrist and know the demons that are present in a body.

A deliverance minister uses this guy in his team before he ministers deliverance to anyone.

Yes. By the power of the Holy Spirit, these demons can be detected..However, It is not possible with the physical senses."

elated177:



Please, stick to the Scriptures. Don't drag people's name into this.

Show me from the Scriptures where the assertion below was even remotely supported.



"I have read about someone who could hold your wrist and know the demons that are present in a body.

A deliverance minister uses this guy in his team before he ministers deliverance to anyone.

Yes. By the power of the Holy Spirit, these demons can be detected..However, It is not possible with the physical senses."

We are done here.

Peace.

Originakalokalo:


We are done here.

Peace.

Lol.....lol. As usual.

elated177:



Lol.....lol. As usual.

If you don't understand my last reply, then there is no point arguing.

I say again,

Peace.

Originakalokalo:


If you don't understand my last reply, then there is no point arguing.

I say again,

Peace.

Lol.

Come to Jesus and accept his sacrifice.

Your mind will not be controlled anyhow if the holy spirit stays there.

elated177:



I don't subscribe to what the op is saying here, which is obvious. Where did the Book say that demons and spirits could be seen with naked eyes?

The Angels that Abraham, Sarah, Lot, the men of Sodom and Gomorrah saw were they seen with their eyes or they saw them in a dream?

LordReed:


The Angels that Abraham, Sarah, Lot, the men of Sodom and Gomorrah saw were they seen with their eyes or they saw them in a dream?

Angels can transform themselves to humans that are seen physically.

Demons cannot. They live in humans instead.

Originakalokalo:



Angels can transform themselves to humans that are seen physically.

Demons cannot. They live in humans instead.

So since how many years ago we have been recording church services how come they've not captured an angel on camera?

LordReed:


So since how many years ago we have been recording church services how come they've not captured an angel on camera?

If an Angel transformed to a human form and come in human form as a stranger, how would anyone know?

You should drop the idea of capturing a complete spiritual being by a camera that works on physical principles.

Originakalokalo:


If an Angel transformed to a human form and come in human form as a stranger, how would anyone know?

You should drop the idea of capturing a complete spiritual being by a camera that works on physical principles.

How did Abraham know it was angels? How did the Israelites know that the pool of Bethesda was being stirred by an angel?

Keep deceiving yourself into believing this nonsense, it's your life.

LordReed:


How did Abraham know it was angels? How did the Israelites know that the pool of Bethesda was being stirred by an angel?

Keep deceiving yourself into believing this nonsense, it's your life.

Yeah thanks.

Its my life.....Yours is on the line as well.

I have chosen a path.

You?

Originakalokalo:


Yeah thanks.

Its my life.....Yours is on the line as well.

I have chosen a path.

You?

On the line for what? You will die just as surely as I will, the only difference will be when. You are not better than those who die before they've even lived so don't kid yourself into believing that you have an edge.

Chosen what path? LMFAO! You folk like to feel you are special. I will believe that when you stop eating food and shitting like every other human being.

LordReed:


How did Abraham know it was angels? How did the Israelites know that the pool of Bethesda was being stirred by an angel?

Keep deceiving yourself into believing this nonsense, it's your life.

Abraham communed with God. He had a relationship with God....if God's Angel was around, God's spirit could have tipped him off.

I have had a similar experience.

You don't belong to God...You won't understand Godly stuff.

I have chosen a path and I am okay and confident with my choice.

You?

You don't believe in God and your belief doesn't stop his ownership of your spirit.

He gave you life and when the time comes, he will come for it....then..

You will stand before him and explain yourself.

Your cross brother.

Originakalokalo:


Abraham communed with God. He had a relationship with God....if God's Angel was around, God's spirit could have tipped him off.

I have had a similar experience.

You don't belong to God...You won't understand Godly stuff.

I have chosen a path and I am okay and confident with my choice.

You?

You don't believe in God and your belief doesn't stop his ownership of your spirit.

He gave you life and when the time comes, he will come for it....then..

You will stand before him and explain yourself.

Your cross brother.

So none of the people in the hundreds and thousands of churches who record their services have this so called spirit of god to know when Angels are in their services and have the camera focus on the angel? LMFAO! Delusion.

LMFAO! I understand how comforting it is to believe in a universal father who indulges in divine nepotism but it's all bullcrap.

When you have evidence for any of your bullcrap, hit me up.

LordReed:


On the line for what? You will die just as surely as I will, the only difference will be when. You are not better than those who die before they've even lived so don't kid yourself into believing that you have an edge.

Chosen what path? LMFAO! You folk like to feel you are special. I will believe that when you stop eating food and shitting like every other human being.

I am special.

You know why?

I am above sin. I have conquered death, I am holy and i have his presence with me 24/7.

He speaks to me. He teaches me. He rebukes me. He guides me.

I am special.

You?

ah!!

You don't have the privileges of these experiences.

Sorry.

Originakalokalo:


I am special.

You know why?

I am above sin. I have conquered death, I am holy and i have his presence with me 24/7.

He speaks to me. He teaches me. He rebukes me. He guides me.

I am special.

You?

ah!!

You don't have the privileges of these experiences.

Sorry.

Bwahahahahaha. OMFG! Such delusion.

LordReed:


So none of the people in the hundreds and thousands of churches who record their services have this so called spirit of god to know when Angels are in their services and have the camera focus on the angel? LMFAO! Delusion.

LMFAO! I understand how comforting it is to believe in a universal father who indulges in divine nepotism but it's all bullcrap.

When you have evidence for any of your bullcrap, hit me up.

Wait for it... As soon as I have evidence,

You will be the first to know.
.

While you wait, just know that your enemy, the devil, is watching you closely.

LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha. OMFG! Such delusion.

Lol.

You don't understand a single word written in that reply.


I understand.

Originakalokalo:


Wait for it... As soon as I have evidence,

You will be the first to know.
.

While you wait, just know that your enemy, the devil, is watching you closely.

I am not that delusional, there is no spirit watching me. You keep living in that delusion of satan and the god watching your every move, I leave that shít to you delusional folk.

Originakalokalo:


Lol.

You don't understand a single word written in that reply.


I understand.

LMFAO! Kai na wa for delusion.

LordReed:


I am not that delusional, there is no spirit watching me. You keep living in that delusion of satan and the god watching your every move, I leave that shít to you delusional folk.

OK then.

LordReed:


LMFAO! Kai na wa for delusion.

Indeed.

@originalkalokalo

I have followed this tread and others your have created and have observed that everything centers on demons

It is obvious you are unaware that believing or thinking that demons are controlling your mind or those of others around you is symptomatic of a psychological condition called possession syndrome. Individuals who are experiencing this are advised to seek professional help

Those who believe it is actual demons or it is spiritual attack due to religious indoctrination usually do not heed this advise and If help is not sought on time it may progress to a point when it becomes difficult to extricate themselves from it

At this stage everything around them becomes demons infested. Craze don start be dat o

The overriding factor in life is free will. If demons can easily inhabit humans and make them act and say things which they would ordinary not do, then there is nothing like free will. It means you have called your God a liar. Or don't we have free will as humans?

triplechoice:

@originalkalokalo

I have followed this tread and others your have created and have observed that everything centers on demons

It is obvious you are unaware that believing or thinking that demons are controlling your mind or those of others around you is symptomatic of a psychological condition called possession syndrome. Individuals who are experiencing this are advised to seek professional help

Those who believe it is actual demons or it is spiritual attack due to religious indoctrination usually do not heed this advise and If help is not sought on time it may progress to a point when it becomes difficult to extricate themselves from it

At this stage everything around them becomes demons infested. Craze don start be dat o

The overriding factor in life is free will. If demons can easily inhabit humans and make them act and say things which they would ordinary not do, then there is nothing like free will. It means you have called your God a liar. Or don't we have free will as humans?

God respects free will. His spirit will not inhabit you without your choice.

The devil is different. He has no mercy.

The mad man of Gadarra in the Bible was possessed by demons that are more than a thousand.

He cuts chains and locks like feathers.

Where was his free will to stop this possession by the demons?

That man at the pool of Bethesda, had been an invalid for 38 years. Miserable and poor.

Where was his free will?

Do you remember what Jesus told him after healing him?

He said, "SIN NO MORE SO THAT THE WORST WILL NOT HAPPEN TO YOU AFTER"



What could be worst than being an lame and on one spot for 38 years?.

Jesus invariably told him that what happened to him was as a result of sin, and he should stop sinning now that he has received mercy.

You loose your free will to the demons the moment you live in sin.

Sin is working against God's principles. It weakens man's defence system and makes the soul prone to anything the demons want.

triplechoice:

@originalkalokalo

I have followed this tread and others your have created and have observed that everything centers on demons

It is obvious you are unaware that believing or thinking that demons are controlling your mind or those of others around you is symptomatic of a psychological condition called possession syndrome. Individuals who are experiencing this are advised to seek professional help

Those who believe it is actual demons or it is spiritual attack due to religious indoctrination usually do not heed this advise and If help is not sought on time it may progress to a point when it becomes difficult to extricate themselves from it

At this stage everything around them becomes demons infested. Craze don start be dat o

The overriding factor in life is free will. If demons can easily inhabit humans and make them act and say things which they would ordinary not do, then there is nothing like free will. It means you have called your God a liar. Or don't we have free will as humans?

My threads centre on sin, salvation, God, prophesies, demons, etc.

Check them well.

Originakalokalo:


My threads centre on sin, salvation, God, prophesies, demons, etc.

Check them well.

But the recent ones focus on the theme of demonology and from what I observed your argument seem to be that if demons don't exist there would be no evidence for God or that the presence of demons(which you have not actually provided any valid evidence for) proves that your God is real and your religion the correct one
However I expected you to respond to the argument in my previous post. You have not

So here again, if demons can easily inhabit humans and easily control them, where then is free will?


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triplechoice:


But the recent ones focus on the theme of demonology and from what I observed your argument seem to be that if demons don't exist there would be no evidence for God or that the presence of demons(which you have not actually provided any valid evidence for) proves that your God is real and your religion the correct one
However I expected you to respond to the argument in my previous post. You have not

So here again, if demons can easily inhabit humans and easily control them, where then is free will?


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I have answered you.

You lose your free will whenever you live in sin and demons take advantage of that.

Stay away fron sin if you want to retain your free will.

Refer to my previous reply for more.