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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by AllenSpencer: 7:57am On Jun 27, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Only a confused Herdsman can think that this will bring peace. Taking people's land by force after slaughtering them doesn't bring peace, it brings more bloodshed.

Where did you read that people's land were taken? Have you seen anyone come out to say such?

You know, I will appreciate if you can suggest better and fair measures instead of only shooting down resolutions. I could buy if its logical
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by AllenSpencer: 7:58am On Jun 27, 2019
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ZombiePUNISHER:


Anybody supporting the forceful takeover of people's lands will have to forfeit theirs first...

You must donate your fathers land first
[/s]

Am discussing with sane people. Will get back to you.
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Princedapace(m): 7:58am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:


Is it only Fulani's that are herdsmen? Stop attributing a crime to a tribe. Their are Okada robbers and their are decent ones. It happens in every industry. Should we say everything in Alaba or Aba is fake because its a hub of piracy.


No price is too expensive for peace to reign and No tribe is important than the other. Manufacturers are giving government loans at discounted interest rate, farmers are giving lands for cultivation at very subsidized rate, Militants are giving amnesty, And investors are wooed with incentives worth more than this.

So if this development will bring peace and draw a boundary, Its highly welcomed.

Lol, this will not resolve the issue; why? The locals will feel threatened and will surely fight back and it will be bloody. Nothing is more than when any tribe feel dominated. That is a big threat.

Just imagine FG getting lands for Biafrans in the north.. My brother, i am particularly happy with this development becus it may help call for a change in our constitution. This means if u want something, cause troubles up and down and FG will help u collect land to make peace..

My brother, watch out as this will back fire seriously, my happiness is that many state governors are beginning to ask questions. Nigeria will be interesting within the next 3 years. grin grin

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by AllenSpencer: 8:01am On Jun 27, 2019
crafteck:


They should have thought of this before herdsmen became people that locals see and run inside... The trauma of herdsmen has already been stamped on people's minds, we don't want herdsmen, we don't want the terrorist, we are not ready to be distinguishing between the good ones and bad, their presence is a bad omen, we don't even want cows again... Too much cholesterol.. Lets manage fish and chicken, whats the point of beef if my country people's life's are taken for it.... The business is blood stained... Tainted.


I love that point you made. Its coming to late I must agree.

But the stigma can still be erased it politics, tribalism and religious affiliation is set aside. This way holds alot of gains than losses.
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by ZombiePUNISHER: 8:01am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:
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Am discussing with sane people. Will get back to you.

I'm not Am...

Olodo... You must donate your fathers land first... Must

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by AllenSpencer: 8:01am On Jun 27, 2019
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ZombiePUNISHER:


I'm not Am...

Olodo... You must donate your fathers land first... Must
[/s]
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Nobody: 8:02am On Jun 27, 2019
livebyday:

Mods Inciting and derailing thread
Mynd44 Seun lalasticlala OAM4J
common get out of my mention. there is enough space for you to post your own opinion

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by RZArecta2(m): 8:03am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:
[s]Great news!

This will end the farmers/Herdsmen clashes.


The Governor should capitalize on this initiative and completely ban open grazing without clauses.

Benue state police commissioner should be put in loop of development and anyone found straying or wandering should be arrested henceforth. Outside this settlements, No other settle ment for herdsmen should be allowed in state and a database of practicing herdsmen should be maintained by the state government[/s].

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Nobody: 8:04am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:


Where did you read that people's land were taken? Have you seen anyone come out to say such?

You know, I will appreciate if you can suggest better and fair measures instead of only shooting down resolutions. I could buy if its logical



Ranching is the only war forward and it is the present method used to raise cattle world wide. Making cattle to trek for several years prevents them from growing fat and this even reduces the Herdsmen profits. Keeping cattle in one place n feeding them will bring bountiful harvest.





What nonsense are u blabbing about weda I've seen anyone saying their land was taken? Can't u see that lands in Benue state are already being allocated to Herdsmen as ruga settlement even without the consent of the people....Who was paid before that land was grabbed?

Mr Herdsmen, All this una nonsense land grabbing can't work, U people should rent land like other tribes m businesses in Nigeria and build ranches there.

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by TSRC: 8:04am On Jun 27, 2019
Somebody remind me, but buhari actually won benue state or atleast got a near equal vote with pdp.

Kano and katsina are voting buhari, benue of all states too is voting buhari.

All of una no well.

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Asquare84(m): 8:05am On Jun 27, 2019
Jorussia:
One thing i hate most about most Nigerians is lack of sincerity.The reason for the incessant clashes between herdsmen and farmers in several parts of the country is because herdsmen roam about with their cattle in search of food.Herdsmen and their cattle must be confined in certain locations in order to end their mindless destruction of peoples farm lands and harvests.Whether we adopt ranching,ruga or any other methods,it must surely involve the allocation of lands on a rental or any other terms.Herdsmen and farmers clashes is now national security challenge and embarrassment and consequently must be addressed by the Federal government of Nigeria.Finally,i think other tribes need to venture into the business of cattle rearing in order to remove the exclusivity Fulani

you are very much aware that their is anti grazing law in benue state yet, federal govt went ahead with the RUGA policy without consulting with the state govt

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by AllenSpencer: 8:06am On Jun 27, 2019
Princedapace:


Lol, this will not resolve the issue; why? The locals will feel threatened and will surely fight back and it will be bloody. Nothing is more than when any tribe feel dominated. That is a big threat.

Just imagine FG getting lands for Biafrans in the north.. My brother, i am particularly happy with this development becus it may help call for a change in our constitution. This means if u want something, cause troubles up and down and FG will help u collect land to make peace..

My brother, watch out as this will back fire seriously, my happiness is that many state governors are beginning to ask questions. Nigeria will be interesting within the next 3 years. grin grin


Where is this domination and forceful acquisitions of lands coming from? This are archaic thoughts. Can I lease a land for you for 5.years in this present day world and you over turn it in 50years time? Common, the world has grown past that.

Even Israel and the Palestine will be going into agreement which I hope will work out.


We talking of security of human lives here and our only blocking point is lands and domination?
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by toscolee(m): 8:06am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:


Is it only Fulani's that are herdsmen? Stop attributing a crime to a tribe. Their are Okada robbers and their are decent ones. It happens in every industry. Should we say everything in Alaba or Aba is fake because its a hub of piracy.


No price is too expensive for peace to reign and No tribe is important than the other. Manufacturers are giving government loans at discounted interest rate, farmers are giving lands for cultivation at very subsidized rate, Militants are giving amnesty, And investors are wooed with incentives worth more than this.

So if this development will bring peace and draw a boundary, Its highly welcomed.




It will not bring peace. It will become a Fulani village. More Fulani's will come, they will also breed like goats, thus creating a need for additional space, and because they know how to force things to go their way, more violence, another concession and cycle continues. I can bet my last kobo that you're a Nigerian politician. Honestly, una dull.

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by RZArecta2(m): 8:06am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:


[s]Where did you read that people's land were taken? Have you seen anyone come out to say such?

You know, I will appreciate if you can suggest better and fair measures instead of only shooting down resolutions. I could buy if its logical[/s]
voltron of the Fulani, these people protesting in Benue state are they donkeys ?

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Nobody: 8:07am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:
Great news!

This will end the farmers/Herdsmen clashes.


The Governor should capitalize on this initiative and completely ban open grazing without clauses.

Benue state police commissioner should be put in loop of development and anyone found straying or wandering should be arrested henceforth. Outside this settlements, No other settle ment for herdsmen should be allowed in state and a database of practicing herdsmen should be maintained by the state government.

Stop deceiving urself unnecessarily.

I'm personally beginning to think that u have mental problems, If some Ijaw people come into ur community n kill 6000 people and burn several hundreds of houses , And then come back later to ask for permanent land for settlement, would u agree to give them land and even defend the ijaws?



If the Fulani get that settlement, won't their population grow? Won't it mean those state will have to keep giving them more of their ancestral land to accommodate their ever growing population as they keep breeding children like rats?

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Asquare84(m): 8:08am On Jun 27, 2019
Amatarasha:
Karma ! Karma !! Karma !!!

Tell me the mouth tiv n benue pple have now ,to recite their normal phrase "Igbos are the problem of nigeria"
U benue are always boasting on hw you killed ur fellow christians ie igbos during biafran war , u are even beating ur chest in pride!

U killed wtout pity ,just because of jealousy ,

Now listen Karma wants you to kill for a grande reason right now with impunity !
Karma karma karma!!!

from your write up it seem you dont have sympathy for the idoma;s despite what the are passing through

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by AfonjaConehead: 8:08am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:


Where did you read that people's land were taken? Have you seen anyone come out to say such?

You know, I will appreciate if you can suggest better and fair measures instead of only shooting down resolutions. I could buy if its logical

All federal government lands nationwide are for projects that would benefit the immediate environment in particular and nation at large.
It is not meant for Fulani herdsmen who do not pay tax. How can and why should the federal government use funds derived from other people's resources and tax payers to sponsor and fund Fulani herdsmen??!! Where is that done?
If the Igbo traders scattered everywhere start harrassing and killing people, killing their hosts, would they be accommodated, would the fed govt establish markets and stalls for them?

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Omoslim26: 8:08am On Jun 27, 2019
Dis is undemocratic i see no reason y d fg would force dis malicious agenda on d people, dat is y we need to restructure dis Country. Nigerians are jst too week wen it comes to uniting nd speaking wit one voice,but u see dem wit glamourous enthutiasm wen it comes to being tribalistic bigots. We want nd need true federalism lets fight for it wit one heart dats d solution to all dis lugubrious never ending palaver enveloping us

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by livebyday(m): 8:08am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:



You shooting yourself in the leg!

Comparing rape offenders to a buisness group is childish.

Are you saying all herdsmen are criminals, Or all are Fulani's?

This affiliation of the tribe to the profession is born out of hate for the president. This group are in category of farmers, accountants, doctors and whatever profession you can mention. If criminals are using the profession to disguise and commit crime, then confining the legitimate ones is the ONLY option in fairness.


Let me give you a layman example. Okada riders have a lot of criminals amongs them that perpetrate evil, should we use that notion to generalize and act? No. We have to create measures to counter the activities of the criminal ones as we being fair to the just ones.

I will not need answer question 1 and 3 anylonger


Again you deflect and avoid straight answers

1. Are you saying not all herdsmen killers are fulani? I agree but also i counter and say all killer herdsmen are fulani

2. I having worked with ngos in the north east can state openly that 98% of these herdsmen and from Mali , lybia , Chad and Niger republics are you aware? Also in 2017 buhari said the same on record that the killer herdsmen are foreigners now he wants to establish a settlement for them?

3. How many have been persecuted for the killings of over 15,000 Nigerians by these men? Before you mention any ruga settlement have a open trial and persecution of hundreds of these killers this will bring good will from the general Public .

4. None of these killers have been tried and persecuted and now you want to force a settlement for them in states outside their region? Where do you think that would work? No country on Earth would. Allow that! The current public outcry would happen everywhere. You can't watch people getting killed and raped and later tell them you want to settle the good ones in a ranch when the so called elusive ad ones have not been brought to justice? How would this be accepted.

5. If the government proceeds with this it would lead to a crisis as is happening Mali currently. Until there is a deliberate attempt to show sincerity in tackling those bad ones the entire group will remain estranged to other regions .

6. Again I state in America and other developed countries sex offenders are not given a settlement to stay in to avoid public lynching , no they are sent to jail for their crimes.

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by livebyday(m): 8:09am On Jun 27, 2019
Mk12:

common get out of my mention.
there is enough space for you to post your own opinion

Insults are unnecessary

Mods rule 2

Mynd44 Seun lalasticlala OAM4J
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by AllenSpencer: 8:10am On Jun 27, 2019
PrecisionFx:




Ranching is the only war forward and it is the present method used to raise cattle world wide. Making cattle to trek for several years prevents them from growing fat and this even reduces the Herdsmen profits. Keeping cattle in one place n feeding them will bring bountiful harvest.





What nonsense are u blabbing about weda I've seen anyone saying their land was taken?[b] Can't u see that lands in Benue state are already being allocated to Herdsmen as ruga settlement even without the consent of the people....[/b]Who was paid before that land was grabbed?

Mr Herdsmen, All this una nonsense land grabbing can't work, U people should rent land like other tribes m businesses in Nigeria and build ranches there.


Who owns the speculated land in Benue? Common, The Federal Government cant be that foolish. If anybody has right o claims, He or she can approach the court. The FGN has enough land across 36 states to execute this project.

When you say land grabbing, I really feel embarrassed cos its at the expense of security and human lives.
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Princedapace(m): 8:13am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:



Where is this domination and forceful acquisitions of lands coming from? This are archaic thoughts. Can I lease a land for you for 5.years in this present day world and you over turn it in 50years time? Common, the world has grown past that.

Even Israel and the Palestine will be going into agreement which I hope will work out.


We talking of security of human lives here and our only blocking point is lands and domination?

Bros, if the Fulani herdsmen want to do business, let them do it like every other business person by going to buy lands and establish their business. Why is FG backing them and buying lands for them with tax payers money?

If fulani herdsman wants to establish his business, when he goes to buy land, the owner of the land will give him the terms of use which he must obey. Simple! That is how every other one doing business has been doing it.

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by xpool(m): 8:15am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:


Is it only Fulani's that are herdsmen? Stop attributing a crime to a tribe. Their are Okada robbers and their are decent ones. It happens in every industry. Should we say everything in Alaba or Aba is fake because its a hub of piracy.


No price is too expensive for peace to reign and No tribe is important than the other. Manufacturers are giving government loans at discounted interest rate, farmers are giving lands for cultivation at very subsidized rate, Militants are giving amnesty, And investors are wooed with incentives worth more than this.

So if this development will bring peace and draw a boundary, Its highly welcomed.
You lack knowledge of history and obviously, you can't even make projections for the future. Under the land use act, land belongs to the state government. The state government said they had no land for to give for that purpose, and you went ahead to forcefully grab people's fathers' land; it contravenes the land use act.
In the examples you sited of people compromising, they were done willingly by parties involved, and benefits were mutual.
In this case, Fulani's are the only ones benefiting, it is wrong, it is enslavement, it is a cauldron that will annihilate Nigeria.
Fulani/Hausa has taken the South for granted for almost a lifetime, forgetting that the south is a sleeping giant in disunity. But when the south unites and finally wakes up, Fulani/Hausa will be pushed to extinction.
THE UNITY OF SOUTHERN NIGERIA IS NEAR...

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Nobody: 8:16am On Jun 27, 2019
crafteck:


Voting him does not mean they should look on if he's shoving nonsense down their throat, any other person voted could have done this, did he disclose this in d campaign?
I can recall vividly that they were warned during the election period to vote wisely, after all the slaughtering of their people by herdsmen and nothing was done by the federal government not even a condolence message they still went ahead and voted en mass for buhari, I wept when I saw the voting results from Benue, from there onwards I stopped showing any care of what happens to them because they seem to enjoy it, I just dey laugh

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Amatarasha(f): 8:21am On Jun 27, 2019
Asquare84:


from your write up it seem you dont have sympathy for the idoma;s despite what the are passing through
my brother everyone is wicked ,me and you ,

BUT when showcasing ur wickedness never trample on justice and equity out of discrimination

Do you know that " If not for Buhari ,igbos would av been wiped out by tivs ,northern christians & idomas etc , Where is their sense of justice ' Killings by herdsmen made them forget igbophobia~ Adaibeku Dec 2018 she said it then now i understand

Forget idomas they are just like afonjas ...jealous hypocrites thats wat dey are 10 times worst than tiv
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by AllenSpencer: 8:21am On Jun 27, 2019
livebyday:



Again you deflect and avoid straight answers

1. Are you saying not all herdsmen killers are fulani? I agree but also i counter and say all killer herdsmen are fulani

2. I having worked with ngos in the north east can state openly that 98% of these herdsmen and from Mali , lybia , Chad and Niger republics are you aware? Also in 2017 buhari said the same on record that the killer herdsmen are foreigners now he wants to establish a settlement for them?

3. How many have been persecuted for the killings of over 15,000 Nigerians by these men? Before you mention any ruga settlement have a open trial and persecution of hundreds of these killers this will bring good will from the general Public .

4. None of these killers have been tried and persecuted and now you want to force a settlement for them in states outside their region? Where do you think that would work? No country on Earth would. Allow that! The current public outcry would happen everywhere. You can't watch people getting killed and raped and later tell them you want to settle the good ones in a ranch when the so called elusive ad ones have not been brought to justice? How would this be accepted.

5. If the government proceeds with this it would lead to a crisis as is happening Mali currently. Until there is a deliberate attempt to show sincerity in tackling those bad ones the entire group will remain estranged to other regions .

6. Again I state in America and other developed countries sex offenders are not given a settlement to stay in to avoid public lynching , no they are sent to jail for their crimes.


1. Do you have proof to buttress this claim. Its not justifiable to say a crime is solely committed by a tribe.

2. When we talking of National security, such idea is welcomed. Do you know how much countries spend in servicing refugee camps? In as much they dont adulterate their society, they dont mind the cost. The Government is going towards confining them and going after the criminals. It will be easier for state security agencies to go after the criminals.

3.We are in a country with alot of security challenges, If we believe that since no one has been prosecuted and we fold our arms and let the status quo continue, we will be making progress or retrogressing? We just need to start from somewhere.

4.So we abolish cattle rearing you saying?

5 How do you vouch for sincerity when the ball is not even yet rolling and entangled with political, tribal and religious differences. This suggestion should be the first move before we can start talking about sincerity of the system.

6 Comparing sex offenders to professionals is a No No. Your point here holds no water
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by datigbogirl: 8:22am On Jun 27, 2019
Amatarasha:
Karma ! Karma !! Karma !!!

Tell me the mouth tiv n benue pple have now ,to recite their normal phrase "Igbos are the problem of nigeria"
U benue are always boasting on hw you killed ur fellow christians ie igbos during biafran war , u are even beating ur chest in pride!

U killed wtout pity ,just because of jealousy ,

Now listen Karma wants you to kill for a grande reason right now with impunity !
Karma karma karma!!!

Na how many people una wan do tribalism for Na everybody dey always follow una fight.

Don't you think it's high time you guys looked in the mirror?
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Nobody: 8:22am On Jun 27, 2019
AllenSpencer:



Who owns the speculated land in Benue? Common, The Federal Government cant be that foolish. If anybody has right o claims, He or she can approach the court. The FGN has enough land across 36 states to execute this project.

When you say land grabbing, I really feel embarrassed cos its at the expense of security and human lives.


U are indeed an uneducated Herdsman. The federal government of Nigeria does not have any land across the 36 states of the federation, according to the 1978 land act OBJ did for us (which will save us from this Herdsmen land grabbing), All lands belong to the government and those lands remain under the care of the state governors, only a state governor can approve giving away any land within a state.

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Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by Amatarasha(f): 8:23am On Jun 27, 2019
livebyday:


Mods, off topic and derailing thread

Mynd44 Seun lalasticlala OAM4J
i pain am
Re: Ruga Settlements: Benue Residents Protest, Say 'No Land For Ruga' (Photos) by flames01: 8:25am On Jun 27, 2019
helinues:
Average Nigerians are not accommodative.

FG is trying their best to solve killer herdsmen, while the state governors are frustrating the efforts

I hope you will give your father's family house and your family land to Fulani herdsmen to use as settlement? You are a disgrace to sense

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