₦airaland Forum

DelilahMakinde:
Hmmm...are you strong enough ?

The last guy is regretting it now..

Khaleell001:
Nothing psychological here.
You are just projecting your jaundice understanding .
The way some of you youths speak to elders in the name of rights goes to show ineptly stupid and shallow some of you reasoning are;and no matter how beautifully written and how you present your claims
.No doubt,the young man was within his right, but he lost a moral convention which is, courtesy and respect.
I, for one will never tell an old man, old enough to be my father to stand up from my seat how much more a man with the status of Wole Soyinka.
But youth like yourselves with their "over sabi" attitude would always pick the wrong persons to do their sparing "rights" with.

I may totally disagree with the prof in many philosophical and religious ethos, but that does not detract from me respecting him.

9jaBloke:
I think this issue is being overflogged.
Let's analyse the players:

Prof. W.S;
He is over 80 years, so it is very possible that he took that seat by mistake
If it was deliberate and he prefered window seats for obvious reasons, he should have planned it better-Ask for the seat during booking, most airlines would be happy to indulge him.
He didn't see it as a big deal so he got up. There's absolutely nothing petty about WS.

Bobo Fine;
He is young and probably exuberant and may not have recognised or even known WS
He may have gone the extra mile to get a window seat
He is opinionated and non-conventional
We don't know his story (no one actually knows this guy's story so we can't keep judging him). He might have a condition, he might have been unstable, goodness knows!
He was operating within his rights so he actually commited no crime.

Tonye Cole:
Was okay to have tried to reason with Bobo Fine but should have stayed out of it after the incident.
Had no business uploading that picture.
Probably did it to trend and gain national popularity for his Guber ambition.

Nigeria:
There's already the underlying issue of lawlessness and lack of regard for orderliness.
There's also the issue of the elders' demand for respect and their sense of entitlement.
Also, many Nigerians will rather go sentimental and more often than not, the real issues are left unaddressed.

Me:
I totally totally adore Prof. Wole Soyinka, I've read almost everything he has published and his views and policies resonate with me. I will consider it a privilege for him to have my seat on a plane (deliberately or mistakenly).

That said, If i catch any unidentified elder on my seat, you will surely have to 'gbe bodi' but i will definitely demand it very politely.

It's not really about respect. I have maximum respect for senior citizens. I defer to ladies, children and the elderly.

I just think we have to restore order and enforce some basic social principles so that this country can have a good shot at working.

safarigirl:
Most Nigerian elders don't respect themselves and by extension, don't deserve respect.

A blatant disregard for rules and regulations is what you are encouraging on the altar of respect. How far has this useless redpect gotten thos country? Nothing is working because the people who should be fighting for this country have been muted on the altar of respect. Hpw respectful was Soyinka as a youth? If the youths of Soyinka's generation had been harping on about respect the way that youths of today are being forced to, do you think the country would have ever gotten this far?

Respect is earned, not demanded. If you act respectfully, you will duly be respected. Don't use old age to intimidate and deny people their rights

PS: The young man had a medical condition that necessitated a window seat for him.

SarkinYarki:
The sooner this man knows his father is one of those that damaged this country , the damage Wole Soyinka has dealt Nigeria far exceeds any gains his Nobel honor brought Nigeria .

SarkinYarki:
Was he not the the one that set the foundation for the bad cults that litter our Universities ? Which has today claimed over 100 thousand student lives since the 80s?

Is he not the one that set the bad foundation from that ugly uniform to poor service in the FRSC which is their culture today ?

Is he not part of those that supported this evil govt even though he knew they were demons?

shomutuski:
please he never insisted on taking anyone sit!!!! i'm sure of that bro.... you just commenting from a myopic view, wola has given so much to nigeria that none of us can ever give... there's no need to go about spewing thrash

Buckubuck:
You have always shown intelligence from ur opinions. I believe you're misinformed. Let me set it straight.

1. Soyinka's confrat was not the cult as we have it today. Most western universities have such confrats that have existed hundreds of years. They exist to further academic frontiers and social justice. That the confrats were abused and later turned to killer squads is not of Soyinka's making. The blame should be at the feet of the VCs of the universities who encouraged the violent groups.
2. The FRSC was a again a very good idea by soyinka which has been abused by government's ineptitude. I remember in the early nineties, the squad leaders in states were either ex-servicemen or retired police officers. FRSC helped in restoring normalcy on our roads then and were highly professional. That they've been affected by the cancer of corruption can't be blamed on soyinka.
3. I like many other Nigerians also supported buhari in 2015 due to the obvious ineptitude of Jonathan. Having said that, I may agree with you that buhari having failed, Soyinka should have withdrawn from supporting him.

9jaBloke:
I think this issue is being overflogged.
Let's analyse the players:

Prof. W.S;
He is over 80 years, so it is very possible that he took that seat by mistake
If it was deliberate and he prefered window seats for obvious reasons, he should have planned it better-Ask for the seat during booking, most airlines would be happy to indulge him.
He didn't see it as a big deal so he got up. There's absolutely nothing petty about WS.

Bobo Fine;
He is young and probably exuberant and may not have recognised or even known WS
He may have gone the extra mile to get a window seat
He is opinionated and non-conventional
We don't know his story (no one actually knows this guy's story so we can't keep judging him). He might have a condition, he might have been unstable, goodness knows!
He was operating within his rights so he actually commited no crime.

Tonye Cole:
Was okay to have tried to reason with Bobo Fine but should have stayed out of it after the incident.
Had no business uploading that picture.
Probably did it to trend and gain national popularity for his Guber ambition.

Nigeria:
There's already the underlying issue of lawlessness and lack of regard for orderliness.
There's also the issue of the elders' demand for respect and their sense of entitlement.
Also, many Nigerians will rather go sentimental and more often than not, the real issues are left unaddressed.

Me:
I totally totally adore Prof. Wole Soyinka, I've read almost everything he has published and his views and policies resonate with me. I will consider it a privilege for him to have my seat on a plane (deliberately or mistakenly).

That said, If i catch any unidentified elder on my seat, you will surely have to 'gbe bodi' but i will definitely demand it very politely.

It's not really about respect. I have maximum respect for senior citizens. I defer to ladies, children and the elderly.

I just think we have to restore order and enforce some basic social principles so that this country can have a good shot at working.

safarigirl:
Most Nigerian elders don't respect themselves and by extension, don't deserve respect.

A blatant disregard for rules and regulations is what you are encouraging on the altar of respect. How far has this useless redpect gotten thos country? Nothing is working because the people who should be fighting for this country have been muted on the altar of respect. Hpw respectful was Soyinka as a youth? If the youths of Soyinka's generation had been harping on about respect the way that youths of today are being forced to, do you think the country would have ever gotten this far?

Respect is earned, not demanded. If you act respectfully, you will duly be respected. Don't use old age to intimidate and deny people their rights

PS: The young man had a medical condition that necessitated a window seat for him.

SarkinYarki:
The sooner this man knows his father is one of those that damaged this country , the damage Wole Soyinka has dealt Nigeria far exceeds any gains his Nobel honor brought Nigeria .

Buckubuck:
You have always shown intelligence from ur opinions. I believe you're misinformed. Let me set it straight.

1. Soyinka's confrat was not the cult as we have it today. Most western universities have such confrats that have existed hundreds of years. They exist to further academic frontiers and social justice. That the confrats were abused and later turned to killer squads is not of Soyinka's making. The blame should be at the feet of the VCs of the universities who encouraged the violent groups.
2. The FRSC was a again a very good idea by soyinka which has been abused by government's ineptitude. I remember in the early nineties, the squad leaders in states were either ex-servicemen or retired police officers. FRSC helped in restoring normalcy on our roads then and were highly professional. That they've been affected by the cancer of corruption can't be blamed on soyinka.
3. I like many other Nigerians also supported buhari in 2015 due to the obvious ineptitude of Jonathan. Having said that, I may agree with you that buhari having failed, Soyinka should have withdrawn from supporting him.

9jaBloke:
I think this issue is being overflogged.
Let's analyse the players:

Prof. W.S;
He is over 80 years, so it is very possible that he took that seat by mistake
If it was deliberate and he prefered window seats for obvious reasons, he should have planned it better-Ask for the seat during booking, most airlines would be happy to indulge him.
He didn't see it as a big deal so he got up. There's absolutely nothing petty about WS.

Bobo Fine;
He is young and probably exuberant and may not have recognised or even known WS
He may have gone the extra mile to get a window seat
He is opinionated and non-conventional
We don't know his story (no one actually knows this guy's story so we can't keep judging him). He might have a condition, he might have been unstable, goodness knows!
He was operating within his rights so he actually commited no crime.

Tonye Cole:
Was okay to have tried to reason with Bobo Fine but should have stayed out of it after the incident.
Had no business uploading that picture.
Probably did it to trend and gain national popularity for his Guber ambition.

Nigeria:
There's already the underlying issue of lawlessness and lack of regard for orderliness.
There's also the issue of the elders' demand for respect and their sense of entitlement.
Also, many Nigerians will rather go sentimental and more often than not, the real issues are left unaddressed.

Me:
I totally totally adore Prof. Wole Soyinka, I've read almost everything he has published and his views and policies resonate with me. I will consider it a privilege for him to have my seat on a plane (deliberately or mistakenly).

That said, If i catch any unidentified elder on my seat, you will surely have to 'gbe bodi' but i will definitely demand it very politely.

It's not really about respect. I have maximum respect for senior citizens. I defer to ladies, children and the elderly.

I just think we have to restore order and enforce some basic social principles so that this country can have a good shot at working.

Auxtin85:
Go read about the ideology of pirate, selecting members was based on academic excellence

SarkinYarki:
Was he not the the one that set the foundation for the bad cults that litter our Universities ? Which has today claimed over 100 thousand student lives since the 80s?

Is he not the one that set the bad foundation from that ugly uniform to poor service in the FRSC which is their culture today ?

Is he not part of those that supported this evil govt even though he knew they were demons?

Esseite:
Good one from the young lad, Nigerian youths should learn to stand for their rights and what is right.. and only give up such right at their own discretion..

For me Soyinka was only trying to use complex psychology on the young lad, if it was an honest mistake like his son claimed, it wont have created such uproar.

SarkinYarki:
Was he not the the one that set the foundation for the bad cults that litter our Universities ? Which has today claimed over 100 thousand student lives since the 80s?
Is he not the one that set the bad foundation from that ugly uniform to poor service in the FRSC which is their culture today ?

Is he not part of those that supported this evil govt even though he knew they were demons?

jomoh:
Buhari’s failure is up for contention. WS has seen it all in this country. He knows which one failed and which one succeeded. He also knows withdrawing his support for Buhari does not necessarily mean he’s supporting Atiku but it would mean PMB has lost a very huge voice and that will hand a certain advantage to Atiku.

Remember he knows Atiku quite well. He is one of the few Nigerians that Atiku respect so much and doesn’t take for granted. He is the one that revealed the course of the rift between Atiku and OBJ been the person OBJ called to help persuade to Atiku (during the 2003 election preparation) out of the knowledge that the only person Atiku respects so much is Wole Soyinka.

So for Wole Soyinka to have chosen PMB over Atiku is a message to all of us that Nigeria has dodged a bullet. That the PMB people called a failure is still better than whatever will come from Atiku’s camp.

Khaleell001:
Nothing psychological here.
You are just projecting your jaundice understanding .
The way some of you youths speak to elders in the name of rights goes to show ineptly stupid and shallow some of you reasoning are;and no matter how beautifully written and how you present your claims
.No doubt,the young man was within his right, but he lost a moral convention which is, courtesy and respect.
I, for one will never tell an old man, old enough to be my father to stand up from my seat how much more a man with the status of Wole Soyinka.
But youth like yourselves with their "over sabi" attitude would always pick the wrong persons to do their sparing "rights" with.

I may totally disagree with the prof in many philosophical and religious ethos, but that does not detract from me respecting him.

Esseite:
Nobody disrespected the prof.. the young lad only insisted on getting his rightful seat.

Why did soyinka in the first place pick a sit which is not his own? If he didn't have the assumption "because he is soyinka" anybody would obviously let go..

That is why our leaders keep holding us down because majority are psychologically trained to let go of their rights when it involves a celebrity, popular, elderly person. And because of this asslicking and suppressing, it's always "get rich or die trying" in Nigeria.

What gain can soyinka derive from the window sit that the young lad is not worth enjoying and rightly paid for. With all due respect sir, that is not disrespect.

SirBunky85:
don't mind that guy u quoted,he's in same unstable league like johnnyessence,racoon,salamrushdie,etc

Larryomooba:
So my elderly father mistakenly sat in the wrong airplane seat, & moved when asked.
It was a non-event until Mr Tonye Cole did an Instagram post about respect.
I thought I'd write to Mr Cole & share a memory about WS & an airline drama when he was shown great respect indeed. By Olaokun Soyinka

As shared below on his Twitter Page

SarkinYarki:
The sooner this man knows his father is one of those that damaged this country , the damage Wole Soyinka has dealt Nigeria far exceeds any gains his Nobel honor brought Nigeria .

SarkinYarki:
The sooner this man knows his father is one of those that damaged this country , the damage Wole Soyinka has dealt Nigeria far exceeds any gains his Nobel honor brought Nigeria .

Buckubuck:
No sir. Wole's grouse with atiku's candidacy was the fact that OBJ actively supported it. That said, he never "chose" PMB over atiku. What he did was to not support either of the two which I believe was a mistake for him. He was too blinded by his disdain for anything OBJ he failed to see how PMB was being managed and goaded by hawks, not for his performance of promise, but the popularity he has up north with ensures those people stay in power by proxy. That to me is a great robbery.

9jaBloke:
I think this issue is being overflogged.
Let's analyse the players:

Prof. W.S;
He is over 80 years, so it is very possible that he took that seat by mistake
If it was deliberate and he prefered window seats for obvious reasons, he should have planned it better-Ask for the seat during booking, most airlines would be happy to indulge him.
He didn't see it as a big deal so he got up. There's absolutely nothing petty about WS.

Bobo Fine;
He is young and probably exuberant and may not have recognised or even known WS
He may have gone the extra mile to get a window seat
He is opinionated and non-conventional
We don't know his story (no one actually knows this guy's story so we can't keep judging him). He might have a condition, he might have been unstable, goodness knows!
He was operating within his rights so he actually commited no crime.

Tonye Cole:
Was okay to have tried to reason with Bobo Fine but should have stayed out of it after the incident.
Had no business uploading that picture.
Probably did it to trend and gain national popularity for his Guber ambition.

Nigeria:
There's already the underlying issue of lawlessness and lack of regard for orderliness.
There's also the issue of the elders' demand for respect and their sense of entitlement.
Also, many Nigerians will rather go sentimental and more often than not, the real issues are left unaddressed.

Me:
I totally totally adore Prof. Wole Soyinka, I've read almost everything he has published and his views and policies resonate with me. I will consider it a privilege for him to have my seat on a plane (deliberately or mistakenly).

That said, If i catch any unidentified elder on my seat, you will surely have to 'gbe bodi' but i will definitely demand it very politely.

It's not really about respect. I have maximum respect for senior citizens. I defer to ladies, children and the elderly.

I just think we have to restore order and enforce some basic social principles so that this country can have a good shot at working.