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Henry240:
Kinda like the Easter bunny.

Ok

Rooivalk

South-African Air Force Attack Helicopter

TayserMahri:
Its not funny. Its true

But alas its not true!! Just accept the fact that you don't have any mi28.

jln115:
But alas its not true!! Just accept the fact that you don't have any mi28.

But alas we have them, we just havent deployed them. Just realized that has been a hot topic from as far back as 2016. A deficiency of the photos is not necessarily a lack of the Mi-28s, mutatis mutandis. Sources close to the KDF like the Intelligencebriefs link I shared above know better than everyone here. You are just armchair military analysts sitting your bums at home.

TayserMahri:
But alas we have them, we just havent deployed them. Just realized that has been a hot topic from as far back as 2016. A deficiency of the photos is not necessarily a lack of the Mi-28s, mutatis mutandis. Sources close to the KDF like the Intelligencebriefs link I shared above know better than everyone here. You are just armchair military analysts sitting your bums at home.

I'm actually in the office, i would be home in a couple of hours.

Can you edit your post?

Thanks.

Henry240:
I'm actually in the office, i would soon be home in a couple of hours.

Can you edit your post?

Thanks.

Can you provide proof that Kenya does not have them besides the lacking photos? You are in a Nigerian office not a Kenyan office.

TayserMahri:
Can you provide proof that Kenya does not have them besides the lacking photos? You are in a Nigerian office not a Kenyan office.

Kenya Defence Forces MI-28NE.

Henry240:
Kenya Defence Forces MI-28NE.

Not bad from your office

TayserMahri:
But alas we have them, we just havent deployed them. Just realized that has been a hot topic from as far back as 2016. A deficiency of the photos is not necessarily a lack of the Mi-28s, mutatis mutandis. Sources close to the KDF like the Intelligencebriefs link I shared above know better than everyone here. You are just armchair military analysts sitting your bums at home.

World Airforces 2019 - by flight global list 0 mi28s

Sipri - list 0 mi28s

There is literally not a single photo of a Kenyan Mi28..... Not one.

The Rooivalk hasn't been deployed since recently in the DRC and only entered service(officially) in 2011 yet there are photos and videos of the Rooivalk dating back as far as the mid 90s.

Kenya does not have any Mi28s, if you did then 1. It would of shown on Sipri and 2. There would be photographic evidence.

TayserMahri:
But alas we have them, we just havent deployed them. Just realized that has been a hot topic from as far back as 2016. A deficiency of the photos is not necessarily a lack of the Mi-28s, mutatis mutandis. Sources close to the KDF like the Intelligencebriefs link I shared above know better than everyone here. You are just armchair military analysts sitting your bums at home.

FYI I'm not a military analyst.... Just someone with common sense...

TayserMahri:
Not bad from your office

Thanks bro.

jln115:
FYI I'm not a military analyst.... Just someone with common sense...

They're hiding it from the office of the Presidency.

jln115:
World Airforces 2019 - by flight global list 0 mi28s

Sipri - list 0 mi28s

There is literally not a single photo of a Kenyan Mi28..... Not one.

The Rooivalk hasn't been deployed since recently in the DRC and only entered service(officially) in 2011 yet there are photos and videos of the Rooivalk dating back as far as the mid 90s.

Kenya does not have any Mi28s, if you did then 1. It would of shown on Sipri and 2. There would be photographic evidence.

1. Sipri cannot be more authentic than a source close to the KDF. Their source of information is largely an army of internet users like yourself, trusted spotters and third party reports.


SIPRI: The SIPRI Arms Industry Database includes public and private companies but excludes manufacturing or maintenance units of the armed services. Only companies with operational activities in the field of military goods and services are included, not holding or investment companies.

The sources of data on the companies include company annual reports and websites, and news published in the business sections of newspapers, in military journals and by Internet news services specializing in military matters. Press releases, marketing reports, government publications of contract awards and country surveys are also consulted. Publicly available information on financial and employment data on the arms industry worldwide are limited. The scope of the data and the geographical coverage are largely determined by the availability of information.

SIPRI data on arms-producing and military services companies is revised on an on-going basis as improved data becomes available. For this reason, it is not possible to make a strict comparison between editions of the SIPRI Yearbook. In addition, coverage may differ because of problems with obtaining data to make satisfactory estimates for all companies every year. However, the Top 100 lists from 2002-2015 available on this website are based on a common, up-to-date set of data, and may be meaningfully compared with one another.

2. I told you the Mi-28 have never been deployed by Kenya.

Off-Topic

New Russian Tigr Next Armoured Vehicle

jln115:
FYI I'm not a military analyst.... Just someone with common sense...

Basically the argument is on whose common sense is superior. My sources vs your sources. I guess we may call it a draw until I or another Kenyan snaps one at the highly secretive Laikipia Airbase.

TayserMahri:
Basically the argument is on whose common sense is superior. My sources vs your sources. I guess we may call it a draw until I or another Kenyan snaps one at the highly secretive Laikipia Airbase.

Quoting an unnamed military-industrial source last week, Russian media outlets RIA-Novosti and TASS said Algeria and Iraq have become the first international customers of the Mi-28NE helicopter with confirmed orders of 42 and 19 respectively

https://www.defensenews.com/home/2016/04/07/algeria-increases-order-of-russian-made-mi-28-helos-to-42/


Your delusions have started to bore me.

French Military operations in Mali

A French Tiger Helicopter was shot down in recent military operations in Mali.

TayserMahri:
Basically the argument is on whose common sense is superior. My sources vs your sources. I guess we may call it a draw until I or another Kenyan snaps one at the highly secretive Laikipia Airbase.

It literally can't be a draw..... You either have Mi28s or don't. It's not a matter of opinion. And the Fact is you don't have any.

TayserMahri:
1. Sipri cannot be more authentic than a source close to the KDF. Their source of information is largely an army of internet users like yourself, trusted spotters and third party reports.


SIPRI: The SIPRI Arms Industry Database includes public and private companies but excludes manufacturing or maintenance units of the armed services. Only companies with operational activities in the field of military goods and services are included, not holding or investment companies.

The sources of data on the companies include company annual reports and websites, and news published in the business sections of newspapers, in military journals and by Internet news services specializing in military matters. Press releases, marketing reports, government publications of contract awards and country surveys are also consulted. Publicly available information on financial and employment data on the arms industry worldwide are limited. The scope of the data and the geographical coverage are largely determined by the availability of information.

SIPRI data on arms-producing and military services companies is revised on an on-going basis as improved data becomes available. For this reason, it is not possible to make a strict comparison between editions of the SIPRI Yearbook. In addition, coverage may differ because of problems with obtaining data to make satisfactory estimates for all companies every year. However, the Top 100 lists from 2002-2015 available on this website are based on a common, up-to-date set of data, and may be meaningfully compared with one another.

2. I told you the Mi-28 have never been deployed by Kenya.

1.
Literally every Mi28 export customers are listed on SIPRI...... Except Kenya off course.

2. Never deployed = never flown?? Cool story bro.... So I guess you do 0 training, 0 exercises, 0 maintenance ect ect sounds plausible!!!

NADCEL 2019 is holding in Lagos

Henry240:
Kenya Defence Forces MI-28NE.

, nice pic

so they got the MI 28 DE version , a downgraded version with no Arbalets mast-mounted radar and no helicopter at all . the DE( don't exist) version

more seriously if kenya want to get the havoc you will find reports many months before the contract will be signed . its always like this with russians . chinese can keep this kind of big deal secret but russians always publish even for there closest traditionnal constomers

I am Kenyan and do not believe we have the havocs. Some years back there was a lot of rumours that we had them plus F15/F16 which turned out as empty talk. We have seen Fennecs, Cobra, Nora B 52, Bov etc but no one has seen the Havoc for that long period?? . Anyway, let's keep waiting, maybe they will be stationed at Narok Barracks. In the meantime, I don't believe we have them. I sho

Nigerian defence industry

All terrain Infantry Patrol Vehicle

Henry240:
SAAF Rooivalk

why can't the NAF get some of the rooivalk?

Algerian1:
, nice pic

so they got the MI 28 DE version , a downgraded version with no Arbalets mast-mounted radar and no helicopter at all . the DE( don't exist) version

more seriously if kenya want to get the havoc you will find reports many months before the contract will be signed . its always like this with russians . chinese can keep this kind of big deal secret but russians always publish even for there closest traditionnal constomers

We can't all be Algeria.

MiddleDimension:
why can't the NAF get some of the rooivalk?

They no longer manufacture it.

Henry240:
They no longer manufacture it.

SA is currently looking for financial backing for a Rooivalk 2.0. variant.
A lighter, faster and deadlier version.

lionel4power:
SA is currently looking for financial backing for a Rooivalk 2.0. variant.
A lighter, faster and deadlier version.

That's on paper.

Anybody can build the best helicopter on paper.

Henry240:
That's on paper.

Anybody can build the best helicopter on paper.

Well they've shown that they have the capacity to design, develop and mass produce complex systems.

lionel4power:
Well they've shown that they have the capacity to design, develop and mass produce complex systems.

It remains to be seen. Marketing doesn't usually turn out to be reality.

Henry240:
It remains to be seen. Marketing doesn't usually turn out to be reality.

Except funding which has been a major constraint for SA defence industry, they do not lack the technical expertise to produce Rooivalk 2.0

Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see.