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Kennydoc:
You people should stop talking about all these "going to court" or "filing charges". She can't do them cos she on her own doesn't have any evidence. There weren't any mobile phones then, neither was there internet availability. She just can't produce any evidence apart from her word of mouth. It still doesn't mean it didn't happen. How many rape victims can actually produce a tangible evidence even after one week, not to talk of 20 years? You guys should reason it na.
The pastor can go ahead and sue her and her husband for libel. If that happens, I am certain that some other people who had recent encounters with evidence can show up and join the suit in her favour.

how was bill Cosby convicted of rape DAT happened yrs ago?

engrelvis:
how was bill Cosby convicted of rape DAT happened yrs ago?

Was it by the testimony of one person?

The pastor said he has instituted a legal action. Let's wait for it to go through, since he has been defamed "despite being innocent". At the end of the legal action, either he or Busola will be convicted.

Benekruku:
The human leads a church.

If the rapist was to be a judge, it could have happened in the court.

come in here let have a little charts. https://www.nairaland.com/2964728/islamic-paradise-sex-sin-sensuality

lefulefu:
ehen he will be preaching about gayism and how man should show some sugar love to his fellow man. see ehn ever since i see some ppl wey dey tag themselves as pastors dey fry their hair and dey wear ear rings and be speaking with fake american and british accents nothing dey surprise me for pastor matter again.u can imagine d rubbish say a fellow man wey call himself a pastor dey press im erection for another man buttocks and d man dey look like mumu.mehn if na me d kine judo kick wey i go take kick im balls ehn then he go know say there is a difference b/w thunder and lightning.

you are right jare.

malvisguy212:
come in here let have a little charts. https://www.nairaland.com/2964728/islamic-paradise-sex-sin-sensuality

Trending news am following-up with. You can stay put there. When it trends, I will join you.

RotimiBliss:
sorry to say,....but dis is trash,.... defend ur case with facts dat can be substantiated....ain't saying d pastor is a saint.... but stop shouting upandan as if u don't have a bad past,
Let who has no sin be d first to cast the stone

Yes, i dont have a bad past. Id never stolen or contemplated rape.
Maybr you do, and now expecting everyone to also have one.


Why would i rape when there is Mother thumb and her four daughters or better still visit a Brothel.


And


Maybe we shoud adopt ur last phrase and free all criminals amd Bokoharam members then....

Truth370:
.. Useless set of people instead of you guys to protest against the NASS to go under minimum wage and Governors to cut down their cost of governance.
Busola should go to court simple. I'm waiting for the case to have another Twist to humble Timi Dakolo he'll surely regret this for exposing his family.
By the time other bro in the church start telling how they fvuk his wife shame will consume him continue being stupid. By the time a SAN or an expert starts to Interrogate your wife more revelations will come out because those one's won't send her tears just like Nigerians been emotional.

Busola willingly gave up herself to the pastor it was consensual. @17 she already knows what's up. She's just hiding under the disguise of Rape.

Not everyone at 17 knows what's up... Not even in advanced Countries... If the story is true... What is wrong is wrong!!.

Benekruku:
Trending news am following-up with. You can stay put there. When it trends, I will join you.

hope it won't take the whole day, this is a good opportunity to defend Islam.

malvisguy212:
I agree with you. pastor rape. does it mean imam and Alfa doesn't rape ?

They Do, We've Good And Bad Ones

SheikhMuniru:
They Do, We've Good And Bad Ones

alright. I guess we are on the same side here.

I no no y some people no get sense sunday wey you suppose they thank God for protecting you you still dey protest over stupid stuff i no no why nigeria be like this he sure me say some people wey worst past the pastor go dey dere that dankolo or what is her fucking name should not bring matter wey don turn to past t spoil someone's career; stupid people wey no get work

IamSoProlific:
I don't think you read that with understanding man.

I sighted that R.kelly was sued, found guilty, never was he dragged, tried or protested against on social media.(I actually get irritated listening to any piece from R.kelly after he was proved guilty by competent court of jurisdiction).

I forbid you....God forbid me nursing the thought of sleeping with a minor, not to even think of executing them.

Learn to read well, learn to read with understanding, it's good for you in soul and healthy mind.

It all started from social media bro
Podcast
Youtube
And Netflix

articulate078:
I'm sure those at d front line of d protest will be MURIC and their Islamic brethren. Dey always get erection whenever dey hear issues relating to pastors or Christiandom

Na so brother... When Muslims kill or rape they call them the bad eggs...
Hypocrite

Kennydoc:
Was it by the testimony of one person?

The pastor said he has instituted a legal action. Let's wait for it to go through, since he has been defamed "despite being innocent". At the end of the legal action, either he or Busola will be convicted.

dem say c Oyibo u say c father.

zeuss:
u can't just go about tarnish in another's reputation....

refer to Berger to Ajah saga and see how evil ladies can be.

Nope, no need for that.

I am not of the opinion that this pastor or other pastors are guilty or innocent, but this whole thing shouldn't be downplayed or called a lie.

The proper thing is for an investigation to take place at the minimum.

PrecisionFx:
Nope, no need for that.

I am not of the opinion that this pastor or other pastors are guilty or innocent, but this whole thing shouldn't be downplayed or called a lie.

The proper thing is for an investigation to take place at the minimum.

investigations before protest and condemnation if allegation is found to be true. but tell me how an 18yr lady can b raped with out forceful penetration
threat to life only one gentle man fuckd her on the bonnet of his car in broad day light

Cybertext:
Have you ever been accused wrongly for what you didn't do??


So one day when you or a family member of yours becomes very popular and rich; when you going about your normal routine A lady comes out to Instagram or twitter and said you raped her years ago with tears rolling down her eyes, we should just believe her then stone to death the accused?? We should not ask question and find out if it's true or not?? The next thing is to condemn.....?? No court No jury?? Just social media trial!!


All rapist should be jailed or killed but I will never accept one sided trial or story... Never again.

Integrity is all you got, guard it with all you life. I will take a proactive response against such lady and we would settle it legally, Not sit in one place and asking people to tell her to bring her evidence. I get the part that we are to ignore many people with false accusations when we at the top because they have no prove, they just want to gain popularity with our personality but not on a kind of situation of pastor fatoyinbo. He should stand up and do something.

Innocence until proven guilty is only a term used to protect an accuse in the court, it doesn't protect your integrity.

Deyvid123:
Normally I would just ignore but let me indulge you a bit.
If you tell me Mr B is an Ebola patient, I would ask how you know this with proofs. I won't start spreading rumors he's an Ebola patient because you said so.
The presumption "innocent until proven guilty" isn't a scam. It is a shield to protect people from false accusations and what not.
Now imagine I accuse you of theft that occurred 5yrs ago, how do you prove your innocence if that presumption doesn't exist?
your last paragraph makes little sense, if she doesn't want to win public opinion she should have sought redress in court and not this social media trial.
#saynotorape

Innocent until proven guilty is only used in the court to protect an accuse, human don't think that way, if I am fatoyinbo I will take proactive step in this situation and fight the case till finish to ensure I secure my integrity, not sit at home and be looking for "Innocent until proven guilty".
Innocent until proven guilty can save a suspect from jail term, physical abuse etc but it will not protect your integrity if you have one.

lefulefu:
all these guys u quoting who are passionately defending the pastor are probably COZA members.u cant blame them though.

I tell you bruv

longest time haba

stanliwise:
Integrity is all you got, guard it with all you life. I will take a proactive response against such lady and we would settle it legally, Not sit in one place and asking people to tell her to bring her evidence. I get the part that we are to ignore many people with false accusations when we at the top because they have no prove, they just want to gain popularity with our personality but not on a kind of situation of pastor fatoyinbo. He should stand up and do something.

Innocence until proven guilty is only a term used to protect an accuse in the court, it doesn't protect your integrity.

Your integrity?? Really?

Go and watch the movie 'when they see us' then come back and tell me about false accusation ....

So the Man suing them for defamation is not enough ??

nairalanduseles:
It all started from social media bro
Podcast
Youtube
And Netflix

For the sake of your own knowledge, not about me or coza whatever. Go google "R. Kelly survival". Read and articulate properly, you'd know social media joined after few court proceedings against him. If you say print media I'd agree with you.

FYI print media is entirely different from social media.

zeuss:
This is the first rape accusation..... Sex scandals is not rape. Watch the lady's video I did
Kai! Something just didn't make sense to me there.
I have no intention of making anyone feel bad here but I think there was no rape in the whole saga. There was rather a silent attraction that gave birth to mutual conjugality.
Why be around a man for that long if you never liked him?
Why keep mute on him raping you while your sister was in the house if you never liked it?
Why didn't you shout and raise alarm when he was leaving, after the purported rape if you never liked it?
Why didn't you share the first and second rape issue immediately to your beloved family if you never liked it?
Why still go to his church if you never liked it?
Why go stay at his house to help his wife and even sought to sleep in their master bedroom if you never liked it?
Why follow him in his car to drop you if you never liked it?
Why didn't you struggle when he took the u-turn to give you the supposed second rape if you never liked it?
Why didn't you tell anyone again or even the police if you never liked it?
After the third day, when he came to find out why you didn't go to church, why didn't you refuse going to the same church when he asked you to if you never liked it?
Why didn't you show any sign of what he did to anyone? Why conceal the whole issue if you never liked it?
Are you totally innocent
Why didn't you tell us if you ever seduced him?
Why didn't you tell us if you fell for his looks?
Why did you do what you did and are still doing what you're doing to him now? Is it fair?
So because someone accused you of sleeping with pastors in the past and is accusing you of being unfaithful in your marriage now you want to pick on the pastor who was in your past just to cover up on the accusation meted on you?
Who knows if you probably seduced him to push him to that extent?
What looks did you give him when he entered your house with your nighty on? Why didn't you rush to change? Why allow him to come in when you were probably Unclad in a transparent gown?
Please,
Pastors are humans. Let's be fair on them and their weaknesses as human as they are.
Don't go seducing a man with your talent and beauty and expect him to act as brother Paul in the Bible when you refused to leave him and his territory.
A man will chase you and get what he wants when he knows you're interested in him.
We're not fools please ����
The woman should just admit that she was wrong as much as she claims that he was wrong

Where do I even start with this post? First, she was UNDERAGE - that makes it rape whether she "consented or not", but I guess you don't know that. Now, you do.

Second, he was her pastor - he had power and authority over her. He was someone she looked up to and any 16 or 17 y/o who isn't "sharp" will simply do anything her father, principal, pastor, big auntie, etc, tells them to do. If someone with that kind of authority over you goes ahead to have sex with you, that is the worst kind of betrayal of trust and any defence of consent is not tenable. Do you know what TRUST is, Mr Zeuss? Yes, she was a mere child, so the onus was on him to act responsibly.

On this being the first rape allegation against the bishop, I said a PATTERN OF BEHAVIOUR has been established against him. We now know that while he does not rape women at knifepoint, he uses COERCIVE PERSUASION to get women that look up to him to have sex with him. This time he did it to a mere child.

The questions you asked - well, some of them - would make sense if this was a relationship between two equals. But since we're talking about a teenage girl and her pastor, all those questions are nonsense.

utenwuson:
Time dakolo, his wife and all the yeye celebrities that condemning fatoyinbo are mad.
U stay in one corner for over 14 years u didn't say sh*t, how can someone without a gun r*pe busola home and away?
Just imagine, person come your house, u wear only night gown open door knowing fully well no one is home, why not simply tell him through the window the people he's looking for weren't around and go put up something?
U still went to his house, take u to car bumper and romp u in doggy and u call it rape?
Kwara state law says 16 years is the official year for consenting and u said u were 17 shey?
The lady still remain in the church for over 2 years and still lead in the choir haba.
If u are raped, the first thing to do is to tell your parents, your parents should take u to a doctor for examination and a medical report written, then to police or dss for arrest and possibly persecution....
What's paining me is the lie that just a tap to the mouth to keep quite and she fell on the couch to be disvirgin as if it's a small thing...



My problem with most youth is that they don't think critically, that's why they are swindled by God of men and politician. A 17year old is not a kid, most 17year old are in 100lvl in the university.

Someone said the reason He believed her is because she has no reason to lie...hehehe.

Protest over allegation? He should arrest most of them and make huge money from this case please.

very senseless human being..15yrs case . As if she did not enjoyed it .why spilling it now ..why did she open up immediate that samd day to anyone around her..why did she keep accepting it in different places . Evn after that she was stil in choir same church she stil kept it.. ..now all tom ,dick and Harry will claim rape from pastor biodun. Useless people.abeg they should free the pastor jo

JuanDeDios:
Where do I even start with this post? First, she was UNDERAGE - that makes it rape whether she "consented or not", but I guess you don't know that. Now, you do.

Second, he was her pastor - he had power and authority over her. He was someone she looked up to and any 16 or 17 y/o who isn't "sharp" will simply do anything her father, principal, pastor, big auntie, etc, tells them to do. If someone with that kind of authority over you goes ahead to have sex with you, that is the worst kind of betrayal of trust and any defence of consent is not tenable. Do you know what TRUST is, Mr Zeuss? Yes, she was a mere child, so the onus was on him to act responsibly.

On this being the first rape allegation against the bishop, I said a PATTERN OF BEHAVIOUR has been established against him. We now know that while he does not rape women at knifepoint, he uses COERCIVE PERSUASION to get women that look up to him to have sex with him. This time he did it to a mere child.

The questions you asked - well, some of them - would make sense if this was a relationship between two equals. But since we're talking about a teenage girl and her pastor, all those questions are nonsense.

. If it is statutory rape then that is a different kettle of fish as she consented to b fuckd even on the bonnet of a car as her story goes.

i beg to disagree that a 17 year old is a child and unable to take responsibility for her actions....she can face the death penalty at that age..
finally in Kwara state the consensually age is 16year....there fore she way legally allowed to screw and be screwed as the interest may present.

dont forget that the coza man was in his early twenties also.
YOU DONT HAVE A CASE WITH STATUTORY RAPE OR WITH PERSUASION OR DECEIT..there is no 419 in sex...agreement is agreement the girl has to understand this

Iamgrey5:
I tell you bruv
longest time haba

longest time my brother. Happy sunday to u.

zeuss:
investigations before protest and condemnation if allegation is found to be true. but tell me how an 18yr lady can b raped with out forceful penetration
threat to life only one gentle man fuckd her on the bonnet of his car in broad day light

Naturally Nigerians are so stupid wen it comes to rape. They focus on insulting n castigating the victim while they ignore the criminal.

PrecisionFx:
Naturally Nigerians are so stupid wen it comes to rape. They focus on insulting n castigating the victim while they ignore the criminal.

Interesting, who's the criminal?

PrecisionFx:
Naturally Nigerians are so stupid wen it comes to rape. They focus on insulting n castigating the victim while they ignore the criminal.

the point is did any RAPE take place?

zeuss:
. If it is statutory rape then that is a different kettle of fish as she consented to b fuckd even on the bonnet of a car as her story goes.

i beg to disagree that a 17 year old is a child and unable to take responsibility for her actions....she can face the death penalty at that age..
finally in Kwara state the consensually age is 16year....there fore she way legally allowed to screw and be screwed as the interest may present.

dont forget that the coza man was in his early twenties also.
YOU DONT HAVE A CASE WITH STATUTORY RAPE OR WITH PERSUASION OR DECEIT..there is no 419 in sex...agreement is agreement the girl has to understand this

No, you can't face the death penalty at 17 in most countries. But that's a moot point since I'm not making a legal argument here. Yes, some 17 year olds are "sharp" enough to "get" but many aren't. The point you're missing really is the balance of power in their relationship. Imagine you're driving out, leaving only one 16 or 17 y/o daughter at home, and you hear a car driving in. On looking out of the window, you see it's your pastor. What would go through your mind? "Oh, it's Pastor Matthew. He must be here to chat with my Sade." You'd wave to him if he sees you and go on your way. That is trust. But a year later you hear he was only coming around to have sex with her. A 17 y/o is gullible and can easily be manipulated - that is why it's immoral to apporition equal blame here. In some Western countries, you can't even date your student in the university because they understand power relations.

He was in his early twenties? Fair point. But he was a pastor, her spiritual leader, the one who purported to stand between her and God.

JuanDeDios:
No, you can't face the death penalty at 17 in most countries. But that's a moot point since I'm not making a legal argument here. Yes, some 17 year olds are "sharp" enough to "get" but many aren't. The point you're missing really is the balance of power in their relationship. Imagine you're driving out, leaving only one 16 or 17 y/o daughter at home, and you hear a car driving in. On looking out of the window, you see it's your pastor. What would go through your mind? "Oh, it's Pastor Matthew. He must be here to chat with my Sade." You'd wave to him if he sees you and go on your way. That is trust. But a year later you hear he was only coming around to have sex with her. A 17 y/o is gullible and can easily be manipulated - that is why it's immoral to apporition equal blame here. In some Western countries, you can't even date your student in the university because they understand power relations.

He was in his early twenties? Fair point. But he was a pastor, her spiritual leader, the one who purported to stand between her and God.

I see your basing ur resentment on moral grounds....so quit the RAPE nonsense and call him a name that suites his alledged conduct. RAPE is wicked and slander with allegation of rape is evil.

Chill with a coza cleanser