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Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by joseph1832(m): 7:01am On Jul 03, 2019
PrecisionFx:
Stop insulting urself with lies.

Befire GEJ was president, Tompolo n Asari accepted amnesty n dropped their agitation.

GEJ never played tribal and religions sentiment till he left office
learn to read and comprehend before you type what makes you sound like an illiterate.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 7:05am On Jul 03, 2019
#WORDS ON MARBLE!


The redundant/ self-serving coupist is a gargantuan DISASTER!
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 7:09am On Jul 03, 2019
joseph1832:
learn to read and comprehend before you type what makes you sound like an illiterate.
Learn not to display ur illiteracy by comprehending before u write anything.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by joseph1832(m): 7:13am On Jul 03, 2019
PrecisionFx:
Learn not to display ur illiteracy by comprehending before u write anything.
get lost.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Neoteny(m): 7:17am On Jul 03, 2019
rOsy247:
Na your type dey slap elders.
Yes o

Like i go slap ya papa for breeding you
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Neoteny(m): 7:19am On Jul 03, 2019
post=79884550:
It is good to see that the same sets of nonentities calling Professor Wole Soyinka unprintable names just last week,
names that they can never call their grandfather.
All because of a boy on a plane, that his parent did not teach manners.
A boy that wakes up his parents with karate kicks every morning,
Saying why should the boy stand up for the PROF, afterall they both pay the same money.......
a man as old as his grandfather,
they are now the same sets of people hailing the PROF today! cheesy

Nigeria our darling country.
Hypocrites everywhere!
What a nation!!


You see what we are saying?
Na PROF Wole Soyinka dis tin dey call washed-up old fool so!
Mtchew. Busy bodi.

Who's he? You people seem to worship the ground the old fool walks on.

You better go and prepare your road kills for tonight's menu.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nazzysca: 7:40am On Jul 03, 2019
post=79884550:
It is good to see that the same sets of nonentities calling Professor Wole Soyinka unprintable names just last week,
names that they can never call their grandfather.
All because of a boy on a plane, that his parent did not teach manners.
A boy that wakes up his parents with karate kicks every morning,
Saying why should the boy stand up for the PROF, afterall they both pay the same money.......
a man as old as his grandfather,
they are now the same sets of people hailing the PROF today! cheesy

Nigeria our darling country.
Hypocrites everywhere!
What a nation!!


You see what we are saying?
Na PROF Wole Soyinka dis tin dey call washed-up old fool so!
In as much as I feel the young boy in the plane may not be wrong if HE POLITELY ASKS THAT BABA SOYINKA MOVES, I stand against disrespecting Baba Wole.
However, the crux of the matter now is what PMB is rousing with this RUGA and that this RUGA stuff be halted.
But you shifted the topic to your own sentiments and hypocrisy.
Aburo, no human is perfect. Correct PMB when he shows that fallible side of his
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nazzysca: 7:44am On Jul 03, 2019
Benekruku:
Am ashamed of professor Wole Soyinka


Ina as much he could analyse, he never suggested the way forward if RUGA is abolished.


I detest people who can only destroy but cant construct.


Well said, RUGE will set Nigeria on Fire. Can Prof please proffer a better way of approaching if he is good at condemning.
, does it mean BENEKRUKU hates Baba Wole?
Lol
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by MANNABBQGRILLS:
Nazzysca:
, does it mean BENEKRUKU hates Baba Wole?
Lol
Shut up and go to school kiddo.
Stop trying to cause rift between two adults.
Be guided!
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nazzysca: 7:56am On Jul 03, 2019
post=79892819:
Shut up and go to school kiddo.
Stop trying to cause rift between two adults.
Be guided!
Kiddo? And you just condemned a guy for disrespecting an elder yet you cannot compose yourself online not knowing whom you're talking to?
What difference is it with you and that guy? Shows you attack him for being on the opposite sides of politics.
I'm setting you guys against but pushing you to correct him like you did condemn the other guy,
Disrespect is disrespect no matter who gives it.
This same property you show in politics, you do not care the effect nor the gravity of an act once it is committed by your political associate.
Have a good day
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by MANNABBQGRILLS: 8:02am On Jul 03, 2019
Nazzysca:
Kiddo? And you just condemned a guy for disrespecting an elder yet you cannot compose yourself online not knowing whom you're talking to?
What difference is it with you and that guy? Shows you attack him for being on the opposite sides of politics.
I'm setting you guys against but pushing you to correct him like you did condemn the other guy,
Disrespect is disrespect no matter who gives it.
This same property you show in politics, you do not care the effect nor the gravity of an act once it is committed by your political associate.
Have a good day
We are very Sorry for the shut up part,
that is unlike us.
It has been edited!
But stop what you were trying to do.
It cause rift, animosity and hatred, that is what we won't accept.
Sorry once more.
Have a blessed day.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by MANNABBQGRILLS: 8:06am On Jul 03, 2019
Nazzysca:
In as much as I feel the young boy in the plane may not be wrong if HE POLITELY ASKS THAT BABA SOYINKA MOVES, I stand against disrespecting Baba Wole.
However, the crux of the matter now is what PMB is rousing with this RUGA and that this RUGA stuff be halted.
But you shifted the topic to your own sentiments and hypocrisy.
Aburo, no human is perfect. Correct PMB when he shows that fallible side of his
We asked someone close to us what the yoruba word you used mean, she told us.
Who are you referring to as that?
Respect is reciprocal.

And you are the same person saying some other things above.
Be guided.
Especially about people you don't know ogbeni!
Abu Oga!
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 8:08am On Jul 03, 2019
joseph1832:
get lost.
cheesy.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 8:11am On Jul 03, 2019
Benekruku:
Am ashamed of professor Wole Soyinka


Ina as much he could analyse, he never suggested the way forward if RUGA is abolished.


I detest people who can only destroy but cant construct.


Well said, RUGE will set Nigeria on Fire. Can Prof please proffer a better way of approaching if he is good at condemning.
Herdsman, ur still here shouting about RUGA? Pls Wole doesn't owe u n ur foolish Abuja Herdsman any explanation or suggestion. Go to hell with ur RUGA, the south, Benue, Kogi n Taraba aren't interested
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:15am On Jul 03, 2019
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PrecisionFx:
Herdsman, ur still here shouting about RUGA? Pls Wole doesn't owe u n ur foolish Abuja Herdsman any explanation or suggestion. Go to hell with ur RUGA, the south, Benue, Kogi n Taraba aren't interested
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Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 8:17am On Jul 03, 2019
Benekruku:
You know why I detest your criticism? You don't make it outlined and brief.

You throw it at me like a novel do I lose appetite.

Where do you want me to start from in that long composition. I will attend to it in detail but will be my last if your criticism are not brief.

But not tonight. Need digest it and give you a "Robust".

Am glad you have bought one of my points. You will buy all in no time. Just relax. The bird is not yet at flight.
U simply couldn't answer his valid point.

RUGA should be in ranches.

Simple.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 8:20am On Jul 03, 2019
exlinklodge:
Hmmm



I can remember Soyinka kissing Buhari's ass some time ago.


Hmmmm Yoruba, una never learn.
You ibo kids always find every opportunity to show how badly trained you are. You can support a govt and criticize when they go wrong. Being brought up in a baby factory always tell on you fools.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:20am On Jul 03, 2019
PrecisionFx:
U simply couldn't answer his valid point.

RUGA should be in ranches.

Simple.
Why do you like to make point about thus issue without consulting history.

Wasnt ranches the first proposed option? Can you deny that fact? And what happened after it was proposed, Its was shot down!


Now everybody making excuses with same ranches. Its funnny!
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:20am On Jul 03, 2019
post=79892819:
Shut up and go to school kiddo.
Stop trying to cause rift between two adults.
Be guided!
Thanks comrade!

Much appreciated!
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 8:21am On Jul 03, 2019
nextstep:
Nigerians are complaining about the policies of a president they elected? Abeg. We can't vote a bigot and then complain he's a bigot.
If people from South don't want grazing, they should either: stop eating cows, or start ranching.

The recent noise from Rivers: "we don't have room for grazing."
Oh... so you want to eat cow meat, but don't want to use part of your land to raise the food you will eat?
U are so daft n stark silly, we have options to eat Pork, chicken, snail, goat, donkey, Turkey, Bush mean and many more.

U and ur fellow Herdsmen do not have any option than to sell cow beef to us, if u refuse to buy, hunger will kill u.

We hold all the keys
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 8:25am On Jul 03, 2019
Benekruku:
Why do you like to make point about thus issue without consulting history.

Wasnt ranches the first proposed option? Can you deny that fact? And what happened after it was proposed, Its was shot down!


Now everybody making excuses with same ranches. Its funnny!
Please present proof that we rejected ranching
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:38am On Jul 03, 2019
livebyday:
Good day to you my ruga opponent trust you are.well?

Again I see you are spamming threads with very unconvincing arguments in favor of ruga .

Arguments that can't stand under the most basic scrutiny

Now I take you from this post sir .

So as you have said above anything to confine them to one place is welcome yes? And I agree.

Am glad you now do, with time, you will agree with my remaining proposals.

So why not confine this settlement to the north where they currently reside ..

Can we be logical and fair? How do you expect products consumed nationwide on daily basis to be confined to just one region? Do you we talking about a multi billion Naira market here. How is that feasible if you bring cost, hygiene and logistics to the table. Am sorry to say, this point you raised is a NO NO.

Are you aware that in developed countries no one herds cattle ? Meaning no need to walk the length and breath of a nation all in the guide of seeking foilage for the cattle !!

Spot-on! And what is being practised in same regions we talking about? Why are you shooting yourself in the leg. Whats being practised there is being proposed here before the "OUR LAND" mentality set-in

This is the 21st century sir not 1910

Ranches are located in large expanse of land ...and feed is trucked in for the livestock

The north has more land Mass so there is enough land for these ranches , also ranches don't need 100 people to run please you can browse YouTube to see how ranches are run..


This point is cancelled. I addressed it first in this your write-up. Its not fair and feasible. Presently, this guys have their herds across Nigeria and its been like that for over 5 decades. We have been co-existing peacefully even though their were conflicts at some point. But the sudden escalation of crime, attached to the trade is what brought the trade to spot-light. If we could have been co-existing for that long, are you saying we start driving them out to go rear there cattles up North? Try to be fair and consider counter effects if we go by your suggestion.

20 people can run a ranch of over ,2000 cows this is the new age where everything has a smarter way of being done..

This is Africa please and not Europe. We dont even automate anything here and you already painting a picture of automation. 20 people running a ranch of 2000 herds. This is fiction!

The fulani herding is out dated and obsolete .. the government can give the cow owners loans or land in the north to build ranches , the government can also bring in experts to hold workshops in the north to train managers on how to run these ranches

You keep saying in the North! Is this feasible! You not weighing your suggestions. You "OUTRIGHTLY" not fair with your analysis.


There is enough sun to power the equipment in the ranch via solar grids


XXXXXXX

It is a no brainier ..

Like I told you yesterday sir, where critical thinking is employed a solution arises easier than when emotional rhetoric takes lead

You the one being emotional here. An 100% certain you cant logically defend all what you composed. I mean am 100% sure.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:40am On Jul 03, 2019
PrecisionFx:
Please present proof that we rejected ranching
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-42785818
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:42am On Jul 03, 2019
PrecisionFx:
U simply couldn't answer his valid point.

RUGA should be in ranches.

Simple.
Whats the difference between ranches and settlement?


Lets have a healthy discussion from there.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:44am On Jul 03, 2019
Nazzysca:
, does it mean BENEKRUKU hates Baba Wole?
Lol
Hello! No hate is playing here but constructive criticisms.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:48am On Jul 03, 2019
[quote author=livebyday post=79886107][/quote]In addition to my points raised, I think we need to have a clear cut definition of what we talking about so we can address constructively which I will appreciate you do so we can continue from there.

Whats the difference between ranches, colonies and settlement?
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 8:50am On Jul 03, 2019
Benekruku:
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-42785818
Ur login English link says cattle colony, not ranches.

Are u feigning ignorance that u don't know what a colony is?







Many Governors have clearly said times without number that they want Ranches and not colonies.


https://www.pressreader.com/nigeria/daily-trust/20180110/281586650992896
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 8:53am On Jul 03, 2019
PrecisionFx:
Ur login English link says cattle colony, not ranches.

Are u feigning ignorance that u don't know what a colony is?

Many Governors have clearly said times without number that they want Ranches and not colonies.


https://www.pressreader.com/nigeria/daily-trust/20180110/281586650992896
Whats the difference between the two with regards to the regional rejection?

Nail this single question constructively and I might be on your side.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by livebyday(m): 8:55am On Jul 03, 2019
[quote author=Benekruku post=79894235][/quote]After reading your response I see there is no need.

It's either you find it hard understanding my.meaning or you decided to interpreted it as you want but either option is exasperating because you end up making me have to repeat myself constantly

1. Ranching is done globally but there is no need to say you want to build the ranch in the south because I we eat meat in the south!! The north has enough land.for build hundreds of the biggest ranches in the world so build them there! This isn't about what is fair! Businesses are jot run based on fairness they are run on assessment of risk and securing profits after expenses ..

The fact you use the word fair makes me wonder if trully you understand our discussion. The word fair isn't used when adults discuss business in the boardroom so the fact you use it makes me wonder .

Next the feed can be grown in the north via irrigation farming which is currently going on massively in the north .. the irrigation farming projects in the north are.currently some.ofnthe largest in the world , you may not know this.

The whole ruga thing is not about ranching as I have addressed this already because there is no logical reason to situate your ranches in the south , it doesn't make business or risk sense .

The ruga initiative is clearly not about ranching. Ranching has always been a business for the northern.part of Nigeria just like cocoa.growing is done in the south west
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by livebyday(m): 8:58am On Jul 03, 2019
Benekruku:
In addition to my points raised, I think we need to have a clear cut definition of what we talking about so we can address constructively which I will appreciate you do so we can continue from there.

Whats the difference between ranches, colonies and settlement?
The definition is obvious

Ranching is the practice of raising herds of animals on large tracts of land. Ranchers commonly raise grazing animals such as cattle and sheep

Settlement a place, typically one which has previously been uninhabited, where people establish a community.

Colony a group of people of one nationality or race living in a foreign place.in this case tribe, hence fulani colony
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Nobody: 8:58am On Jul 03, 2019
Benekruku:
Whats the difference between ranches and settlement?


Lets have a healthy discussion from there.
Don't ask me any other stupid questions, if u want to know the meaning of whatever easy word, find it ur self.



A cattle Ranch is a large farm (usually measures in a few hundred hectares) where cattle or maybe other animals are bred, it's an enclosed area. The workers on the ranch fed the animals there from grasses and straw they plant within the farm or collected outside the farm.



A cattle settlement is a very vast amount of land (usually measures in tens of thousands of hectares) where a people are given to settle. It is not an enclosed area.

What exactly do Fulani people need over 1 million plots of land in each state in Nigeria for? Do u think we are daft?


Now the Niger state RUGA is 30,000 hectares of land and it will number 6 on each state so do the math n don't assume we are stupid.
Re: Wole Soyinka: Ruga Settlements May Set Nigeria On Fire by Benekruku(m): 9:02am On Jul 03, 2019
PrecisionFx:
Don't ask me any other stupid questions, if u want to know the meaning of whatever easy word, find it ur self.



A cattle Ranch is a large farm (usually measures in a few hundred hectares) where cattle or maybe other animals are bred, it's an enclosed area. The workers on the ranch fed the animals there from grasses and straw they plant within the farm or collected outside the farm.



A cattle settlement is a very vast amount of land (usually measures in tens of thousands of hectares) where a people are given to settle. It is not an enclosed area.

What exactly do Fulani people need over 1 million plots of land in each state in Nigeria for? Do u think we are daft?


Now the Niger state RUGA is 30,000 hectares of land and it will number 6 on each state so do the math n don't assume we are stupid.
Am glad you shooting yourself in the leg.

You have no point Dude. Read everything you composed and you will agree with me you already on my side.

Now you are boxed to an angle where you void and clueless, and can only use the size of land been demanded to make a point. Can you see our discussion is closed.

So what why were you arguing with me all along?


Dear! Am done with you!
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