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Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 1:40pm On Jul 05, 2019
Someone sent this to me and I decided to share here.

[b]RICHEST CHURCHES IN THE WORLD:

1- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- $67.0 billon

2- Catholic Church - $30 billion +

3- Catholic Church Australia- $20.9 billion

4- Catholic Church Germany- $25.0 billion

5-Church of England $7.8 billion

6-Opus Dei (part of the Catholic Church) Italy- $2.8 billon

7-Church of Scientology- $2.0 billon

``NOW OBSERVE THAT THERE IS NO.....

RCCG
Winners
Christ Embassy
Synagogue
*No Pentecostal church at all*.

RICHEST PASTORS IN THE WORLD:
1 Bishop Oyedepo - $150 Million
2 Bishop TD Jakes - $147 Million
3 Pastor Chris Oyakhilome - $50 Million
4 Pastor Benny Hinn - $42 Million
5 Pastor Adeboye - $39 Million
6 Pastor Creflo Dollar - $27 Million (He used to be #1)
7 Pastor Kenneth Copeland - $25 Million
8 Evangelist Billy Graham - $25 Million
9 Prophet TB Joshua - $10 Million
10 Pastor Joseph Prince - $5 Million

*Observe again that none of the 4 richest churches mentioned have their leaders on this list of the Richest Pastors.*

The Pope is not there.
The Arch Bishop of Canterbury is not there.
The Bishop of Opus Dei is not there.
The Director of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not there.

```NOW OBSERVE AGAIN.```

*6* out of the *10 Richest Pastors* are *blacks* , with *their congregation being predominantly black* .

4 out of the 10 richest Pastors have their *churches in Nigeria, the poverty capital of the world, the 147th most corrupt nation of the world, the home to the second deadliest terrorist group, the most unsafe place to give birth to in the world.*

Observe as well that the Richest Churches are situated in

1- USA
2- Vatican City
3- England

These are amongst the safest, less corrupt and most prosperous Nations.

*What a Paradox!! Jesus Christ fed the multitude, but in Nigeria the multitude feed the Men of God and General Overseers.*[/b]


And here was my response;

[b]If the Catholic Church was ran by an individual, he wld be that rich.

If LDS was ran by an individual, he wld be that rich.

Living Faith, RCCG, Christ Embassy, and the Synagogue are ran by individuals and they are that rich.

I don't know what people want. When the Evangelical Christians hadn't understood Kingdom principles of Financial Prosperity, hence remained poor, we were called Church Rats, today we understand and are harnessing them and we are seeing what our inheritances are, and are reaping them, the world is shouting. Ole Ole...

I'll really like to have a scriptural discussion with anyone who believes it is wrong for Christian individuals to be financially prosperous.
I have loads of questions.

Questions likes, Is Jehovah against is Children prospering materially?

Did he create Gold and Silver?

Why did he create them?

Who did He create them for?

For his 'enemy', satan and his followers?

If Abraham were to be alive today, wld Oyedepo's wealth be equated to his?

If Isaac who was richer than a whole nation of Philistine were to be alive today, wld Adeboye's wealth be compared to his?

If Job were to be alive today, wld Kenneth Copeland's wealth be compared to his?

If David was alive today, wld Benny Hinn's wealth be compared to his?

If Solomon were alive today, wld all the wealth of all these men you mentioned put together be compared to?


What did Jehovah say He'd reward those who diligently seek him with?


Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard neither has it entered into the hearts of men what God has preserved for those who Love Him.

And Peter asked Jesus and said,

...Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Mark 10:28-30.

God didn't create this earth for his enemies, everything on earth is for His Children. Only satan and his agents are against God's people prospering. They'd wish we remain poor so that we wld compromise our faith by doing his bidding. But, gone are those days.

These names you mentioned are the first generation Evangelical giants. The coming generations shall see far greater ttan Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kenneth Copeland and the rest.

Our enemies shall cry blood.

Let me hear your view.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by budaatum: 1:49pm On Jul 05, 2019
Don't mind some people. God bless me they are unhappy, do they think God is a poor non-blessing dead God They must think God is a stone!

Welcome back 09. You've missed a lot!

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by UceeGod: 2:25pm On Jul 05, 2019
No right thinking genuine Christian blames Oyedepo, Adeboye, etc for being rich. But in a country where most people (including their congregations) can hardly afford to feed well and are spiritually depraved, these "men of God" flaunt their wealth and encourage pursuit of material possessions more than spiritual wellbeing. No wonder most of these politicians and fraudsters are comfortable in these congregations. No wonder these " men of God" are seen frolicking with politicians. No wonder many young people from these congregations are involved in immorality. No wonder these "men of God" can't come out vehemently against the darkness ravaging the country including immoral TV shows like BBNAIJA, corruption, injustice, politician's raking in over 1/4 of our national budget. No wonder there are so many fraudulent pastors springing up everywhere.
Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc didn't get rich by asking God for wealth or pursuing material possessions nor did they encourage people to run after material wealth as if that is what dominion over the earth is all about. They got so rich because it was God's will for them. God will only give wealth as His grace and sovereignty permits not because you ask Him or because you did anything special.

Yes, God will reward those who diligently seek Him but not necessarily with material wealth. God values our spiritual status more than our financial status. If you're seeking God just so that He can bless you with wealth, then you've missed the mark. True Christianity is far more than what we have here on earth. If Christ was really concerned about His followers getting mega rich here on earth, He would have had so many chariots, horses, carmels, etc in His entourage but He lived an exemplary life - a SIMPLE LIFE even though He could afford anything He wanted.
Simply put, those pastors flying private jets in Nigeria are nothing like Christ.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by OpenYourEyes1: 3:03pm On Jul 05, 2019
In my opinion, the pastors bank accounts and personal properties ( not church accounts or properties) determine how much they are worth

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Nobody: 3:10pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:
No right thinking genuine Christian blames Oyedepo, Adeboye, etc for being rich. But in a country where most people (including their congregations) can hardly afford to feed well and are spiritually depraved, these "men of God" flaunt their wealth and encourage pursuit of material possessions more than spiritual wellbeing. No wonder most of these politicians and fraudsters are comfortable in these congregations. No wonder these " men of God" are seen frolicking with politicians. No wonder many young people from these congregations are involved in immorality. No wonder these "men of God" can't come out vehemently against the darkness ravaging the country including immoral TV shows like BBNAIJA, corruption, injustice, politician's raking in over 1/4 of our national budget. No wonder there are so many fraudulent pastors springing up everywhere.
Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc didn't get rich by asking God for wealth or pursuing material possessions nor did they encourage people to run after material wealth as if that is what dominion over the earth is all about. They got so rich because it was God's will for them. God will only give wealth as His grace and sovereignty permits not because you ask Him or because you did anything special.

Yes, God will reward those who diligently seek Him but not necessarily with material wealth. God values our spiritual status more than our financial status. If you're seeking God just so that He can bless you with wealth, then you've missed the mark. True Christianity is far more than what we have here on earth. If Christ was really concerned about His followers getting mega rich here on earth, He would have had so many chariots, horses, carmels, etc in His entourage but He lived an exemplary life - a SIMPLE LIFE even though He could afford anything He wanted.
Simply put, those pastors flying private jets in Nigeria are nothing like Christ.
Thanks bro you've said it all but I'd just like to add my Lil' bit.

Personally I think the greatest issue here is the idea that the life of a man consists in the abundance of possession he has, because that is very contrary to the teachings of Christ, and also promotes covetousness which was the premise upon which Jesus made this statement. luke 12:15

For as much as there were examples of rich men who walked with God, there are also examples of not just poor men, buy extremely poor men who walked at the highest level with God, such as Moses, Elijah, Elijah, John the Baptist etc.

That's why it is so wrong and misleading to use the criteria of material possessions to measure success in the church, for it is absolutely immaterial in the sight of God.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsCvF1m9fSo

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:12pm On Jul 05, 2019
Anas09:


Someone sent this to me and I decided to share here.

[b]RICHEST CHURCHES IN THE WORLD:

1- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- $67.0 billon

2- Catholic Church - $30 billion +

3- Catholic Church Australia- $20.9 billion

4- Catholic Church Germany- $25.0 billion

5-Church of England $7.8 billion

6-Opus Dei (part of the Catholic Church) Italy- $2.8 billon

7-Church of Scientology- $2.0 billon

``NOW OBSERVE THAT THERE IS NO.....

RCCG
Winners
Christ Embassy
Synagogue
*No Pentecostal church at all*.

RICHEST PASTORS IN THE WORLD:
1 Bishop Oyedepo - $150 Million
2 Bishop TD Jakes - $147 Million
3 Pastor Chris Oyakhilome - $50 Million
4 Pastor Benny Hinn - $42 Million
5 Pastor Adeboye - $39 Million
6 Pastor Creflo Dollar - $27 Million (He used to be #1)
7 Pastor Kenneth Copeland - $25 Million
8 Evangelist Billy Graham - $25 Million
9 Prophet TB Joshua - $10 Million
10 Pastor Joseph Prince - $5 Million

*Observe again that none of the 4 richest churches mentioned have their leaders on this list of the Richest Pastors.*

The Pope is not there.
The Arch Bishop of Canterbury is not there.
The Bishop of Opus Dei is not there.
The Director of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not there.

```NOW OBSERVE AGAIN.```

*6* out of the *10 Richest Pastors* are *blacks* , with *their congregation being predominantly black* .

4 out of the 10 richest Pastors have their *churches in Nigeria, the poverty capital of the world, the 147th most corrupt nation of the world, the home to the second deadliest terrorist group, the most unsafe place to give birth to in the world.*

Observe as well that the Richest Churches are situated in

1- USA
2- Vatican City
3- England

These are amongst the safest, less corrupt and most prosperous Nations.

*What a Paradox!! Jesus Christ fed the multitude, but in Nigeria the multitude feed the Men of God and General Overseers.*[/b]


And here was my response;

[b]If the Catholic Church was ran by an individual, he wld be that rich.

If LDS was ran by an individual, he wld be that rich.

Living Faith, RCCG, Christ Embassy, and the Synagogue are ran by individuals and they are that rich.

I don't know what people want. When the Evangelical Christians hadn't understood Kingdom principles of Financial Prosperity, hence remained poor, we were called Church Rats, today we understand and are harnessing them and we are seeing what our inheritances are, and are reaping them, the world is shouting. Ole Ole...

I'll really like to have a scriptural discussion with anyone who believes it is wrong for Christian individuals to be financially prosperous.
I have loads of questions.

Questions likes, Is Jehovah against is Children prospering materially?

Did he create Gold and Silver?

Why did he create them?

Who did He create them for?

For his 'enemy', satan and his followers?

If Abraham were to be alive today, wld Oyedepo's wealth be equated to his?

If Isaac who was richer than a whole nation of Philistine were to be alive today, wld Adeboye's wealth be compared to his?

If Job were to be alive today, wld Kenneth Copeland's wealth be compared to his?

If David was alive today, wld Benny Hinn's wealth be compared to his?

If Solomon were alive today, wld all the wealth of all these men you mentioned put together be compared to?


What did Jehovah say He'd reward those who diligently seek him with?


Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard neither has it entered into the hearts of men what God has preserved for those who Love Him.

And Peter asked Jesus and said,

...Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Mark 10:28-30.

God didn't create this earth for his enemies, everything on earth is for His Children. Only satan and his agents are against God's people prospering. They'd wish we remain poor so that we wld compromise our faith by doing his bidding. But, gone are those days.

These names you mentioned are the first generation Evangelical giants. The coming generations shall see far greater ttan Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kenneth Copeland and the rest.

Our enemies shall cry blood.

Let me hear your view.

Do you believe Sunday Adelaja is sent by God?

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by JOSHUA5637: 3:25pm On Jul 05, 2019
Bishop Oyedepo is the 2nd richest Pastor in The world
Corpland is the Richest Thanks
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 3:35pm On Jul 05, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


Do you believe Sunday Adelaja is sent by God?

I don't really know him. Why?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 3:43pm On Jul 05, 2019
budaatum:
Don't mind some people. God bless me they are unhappy, do they think God is a poor non-blessing dead God They must think God is a stone!

Welcome back 09. You've missed a lot!
Hello Budda, How have you been?

I always sit and wonder. Did God create God and Silver before or after the Fall?


What if Adam didn't sin?

Would believers enjoy Gods creation Without any criticisms?

Wld Gold and Silver be a sin for God's people to use?

Did Jehovah create the good things of the earth for nothing?

I really need people to tell me. I don tire with people shouting down on believers enjoying what God created.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 4:03pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

No right thinking genuine Christian blames Oyedepo, Adeboye, etc for being rich.
In other words, Prosperity is not a sin?

UceeGod:

But in a country where most people (including their congregations) can hardly afford to feed well and are spiritually depraved, these "men of God" flaunt their wealth and encourage pursuit of material possessions more than spiritual wellbeing.

@UceeGod: I'm still waiting for your detailed answer here
You raised many points here.
1. The state of the Country.
2. Poor state of the congregants.
3. The depravity of the congregants.
4. Flaunting of wealth by pastors
5. The encouragement of the pursuit of material wealth.

Let's take them one by one.

Pls, I need you to answer me, should a believer depend on the economy of the land in which he lives as his source or to look up to God as his source and sustainer?

Why are the congregants poor? Do you know that the Bible commands over and over again that people shd work with their hands so that they can have food to eat? Do you know that the Bible hates poverty?
Do you know that the Bible says a lazy man shd not be given food?
WHY THEN ARE THESE CONGRGANTS POOR? Whose fault? Pastors?

Or, wld you they don't go to church becos the are poor? Or shd'nt give offerings because they are poor?

Is there a society without the Poor?

Are the homeless people in America thus, because they go to church and give their offerings to pastors?

Pls, I wld like you to explain more what you mean by depravity.

How do these pastors flaunt their wealth?
Wld you they just collect offeings and tithe and travel to other lands and just squander it there like the prodigal son did?

Wld investing the tithes and offerings they collect from the people, in turn build schools, hospitals, and other things (in the case of oyedepo) mean flaunting wealth?

Is it possible to have money and be hidden?

And finally, this is my point, Why did God create material wealth?
Did He create material wealth to beautify the earth and not for men to use?

Is material wealth not for God's Children?

Is it a sin to have them?

Will you say Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, David, Job, Solomon were all sinners for having material wealth?

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 4:23pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

No wonder most of these politicians and fraudsters are comfortable in these congregations.
You are going off OP, but I will still answer you.
Pls, which renown politician do you know as a Winners Member, or RCCG or Christ Embassy members? Be specific pls. Don't generalize.

UceeGod:

No wonder these " men of God" are seen frolicking with politicians. No wonder many young people from these congregations are involved in immorality.
Again. Off Op. Can you be specific pls?

This thread is not about the morality of anyone. Pls be focused. thanks.
UceeGod:

No wonder these "men of God" can't come out vehemently against the darkness ravaging the country including immoral TV shows like BBNAIJA, corruption, injustice, politician's raking in over 1/4 of our national budget. No wonder there are so many fraudulent pastors springing up everywhere.
Lolzzzzz. Pls get your mind into the right place. This country does not practice the theocratic system of Government. The men of God preach the gospel and the Gospel is not forced on people. Let him who have an ear hear what the Spirit says to the people.

UceeGod:

Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc didn't get rich by asking God for wealth or pursuing material possessions nor did they encourage people to run after material wealth as if that is what dominion over the earth is all about. They got so rich because it was God's will for them.
This doesn't make any sence. So, Abraham and his descendants didn't ask for wealth, but he gave them anyway, Oyedepo and his Contemporaries are asking God and are running after material wealth and God still gave them?

Sir, you don't ask and receive materia wealth, you work tirelessly for it.
If you think it's the other way round, sit down, do nothing but just ask, let's see how much you'd receive.

I hear that to be a staff working under Oyedepo, if you are not a Workaholic, you'd drop out if fatigue or run away. No lazy man can stick around him.

If you think he is prosperous by asking ask God for money, try doing it.
And, what is Dominion over the earth means?

UceeGod:

God will only give wealth as His grace and sovereignty permits not because you ask Him or because you did anything special.
You have no idea, and you are not addressing the Op.
Reading you I perceive you in tears typing this. Stop with the emotions.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 4:57pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

Yes, God will reward those who diligently seek Him but not necessarily with material wealth.
So you'd go against Job, Isaac, and the rest for having such stupendous wealth?

God neither said his reward will be material wealth only nau.

UceeGod:

God values our spiritual status more than our financial status. If you're seeking God just so that He can bless you with wealth, then you've missed the mark.
Have you really listened to either of these pastors preach? As in, have you followed them?
Example, Living Faith Church stands on 12 Pillars, and each month one if those pillars is preached and stressed, and all the scriptures that talks about it is used until light comes.

Do you think it's only Prosperity they preach?

UceeGod:

True Christianity is far more than what we have here on earth. If Christ was really concerned about His followers getting mega rich here on earth, He would have had so many chariots, horses, carmels, etc
Do they preach Mega riches? Have you listened to their messages and all you hear is riches?

UceeGod:

in His entourage but He lived an exemplary life - a SIMPLE LIFE even though He could afford anything He wanted.
Simply put, those pastors flying private jets in Nigeria are nothing like Christ.
All your submissions are emotional rather than scriptural based, so I wld let you go.

Thanks.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 5:09pm On Jul 05, 2019
OpenYourEyes1:
In my opinion, the pastors bank accounts and personal properties ( not church accounts or properties) determine how much they are worth
How does this answer my Op pls?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 5:10pm On Jul 05, 2019
jesusjnr:
Thanks bro you've said it all but I'd just like to add my Lil' bit.

Personally I think the greatest issue here is the idea that the life of a man consists in the abundance of possession he has, because that is very contrary to the teachings of Christ, and also promotes covetousness which was the premise upon which Jesus made this statement. luke 12:15

For as much as there were examples of rich men who walked with God, there are also examples of not just poor men, buy extremely poor men who walked at the highest level with God, such as Moses, Elijah, Elijah, John the Baptist etc.

That's why it is so wrong and misleading to use the criteria of material possessions to measure success in the church, for it is absolutely immaterial in the sight of God.
Pls treat the Op step by step.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 5:11pm On Jul 05, 2019
JOSHUA5637:
Bishop Oyedepo is the 2nd richest Pastor in The world
Corpland is the Richest Thanks
So, is it wrong for them to have it?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 5:15pm On Jul 05, 2019
I need a scriptural discussion based on the Op, not discussion outside the Op.

Did God create these things?

If Yes, for who?

What is wrong with the People of God have wealth?

If the Patriarchs lived today, wld we regard them as materially minded and not true followers of God?

I'm itching to flood this thread with prosperity based scriptures.

Anyone?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by UceeGod: 5:43pm On Jul 05, 2019
Anas09:
I need a scriptural discussion based on the Op, not discussion outside the Op.

Did God create these things?

If Yes, for who?

What is wrong with the People of God have wealth?

If the Patriarchs lived today, wld we regard them as materially minded and not true followers of God?

I'm itching to flood this thread with prosperity based scriptures.

Anyone?
I think you should reread my post so you can understand properly and I think you're the one being emotional here.
As I posted earlier, there's absolutely nothing wrong with God’s people being wealthy but it's unChristlike to continually emphasize on acquiring material possessions and flying private jets AS A CHRISTIAN LEADER. At the same time I'm not saying a Christian must be perpetually poor financially to be like Christ even though we all pass through financial difficulties - it's unavoidably part of the Christian life if we must grow in grace.
Show me anywhere in the Bible that Jesus Christ preached about pursuing wealth, show me anywhere in the Bible where Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc prayed or worked so hard for the wealth they had. Showe me anywhere in the Bible where God blessed them with material wealth because of their hard work.
My friend, true wealth from God doesn't come from your hard work but God's GRACE, WILL & SOVEREIGNTY. God may decide to bless your WORK with wealth but it has to be according to His divine purpose

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 6:02pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

I think you should reread my post so you can understand properly and I think you're the one being emotional here.
As I posted earlier, there's absolutely nothing wrong with God’s people being wealthy but it's unChristlike to continually emphasize on acquiring material possessions and flying private jets AS A CHRISTIAN LEADER. At the same time I'm not saying a Christian must be perpetually poor financially to be like Christ even though we all pass through financial difficulties - it's

unavoidably part of the Christian life if we must grow in grace.
Show me anywhere in the Bible that Jesus Christ preached about pursuing wealth, show me anywhere in the Bible where Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc prayed or worked so hard for the wealth they had. Showe me anywhere in the Bible where God blessed them with material wealth because of their hard work.
My friend, true wealth from God doesn't come from your hard work but God's GRACE, WILL & SOVEREIGNTY. God may decide to bless your WORK with wealth but it has to be according to His divine purpose
Do you know what Principles are? The Lord didn't need to preach that we shd pursue wealth, the principles have already been laid. Do this and get that.

Pls decode this scripture.

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all other things shall be added into you.

What is the Kingdom of God?
How do you seek it
And what are the 'Other things' which will be added into you?

Do you need scriptures who h says diligence which is work (in this case Kingdom or Covenant Practice) is what brings wealth?

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by UceeGod: 6:09pm On Jul 05, 2019
Anas09:

Do you know what Principles are? The Lord didn't need to preach that we shd pursue wealth.

Pls decode this scripture.

Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and all other things shall be added into you.

What is the Kingdom of God?
How do you seek it
And what are the 'Other things' which will be added into you?

Do you need scriptures who h says diligence which is work (in this case Kingdom or Covenant Practice) is what brings wealth?
Maybe you have any other explanations to that Bible passage apart from God giving you all you need when you truly pursue Him, I'll be glad to learn from you. Or do you mean to say pursuing money is part of seeking God?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 6:13pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

Maybe you have any other explanations to that Bible passage apart from God giving you all you need when you truly pursue Him, I'll be glad to learn from you. Or do you mean to say pursuing money is part of seeking God?
What do you mean by pursuing money? And how does these pastors pursue money?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Blackfire(m): 6:27pm On Jul 05, 2019
Una well-done o
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by MrPresident1: 6:47pm On Jul 05, 2019
budaatum:
Don't mind some people. God bless me they are unhappy, do they think God is a poor non-blessing dead God They must think God is a stone!

Welcome back 09. You've missed a lot!

Buda for eartum how you dey now? grin

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:06pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

I think you should reread my post so you can understand properly and I think you're the one being emotional here.
You don't seem to know what emotions are.
By emotions, I mean presenting what you feel instead of Biblical variables. What does the Bible say? If it's unscriptural for believers to own Earthly material things, give reasons.

UceeGod:

As I posted earlier, there's absolutely nothing wrong with God’s people being wealthy but it's unChristlike to continually emphasize on acquiring material possessions and flying private jets AS A CHRISTIAN LEADER.
Your views are conflicting here. Nothing wrong with believers being wealthy, but it is Unchrislike to preach about what is absolutely right abi?

If you say there's nothing wrong with Christians having wealth, why then do you find it wrong for pastors to preach it?

And, I asked you if you have followed these preachers and you can godly say that all they preach is material wealth?

Can you?
As far as you are concerned, Satanists can own Jets but not Christian leaders?

Did satan create any of these things?

UceeGod:

At the same time I'm not saying a Christian must be perpetually poor financially to be like Christ even though we all pass through financial difficulties - it's unavoidably part of the Christian life if we must grow in grace.
In other words, to grow in grace we do not need much money? Even if you service the Covenant adequately and from it get really blessed?

You have not told me if God created these things for satan and his People since the people of God do not really need them.

UceeGod:

Show me anywhere in the Bible that Jesus Christ preached about pursuing wealth, show me anywhere in the Bible where Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc prayed or worked so hard for the wealth they had. Showe me anywhere in the Bible where God blessed them with material wealth because of their hard work.
Outside of Solomon who inherited his father's throne and everything which came with it.
Abraham was a farmer, no one will have 318 foot soldiers excluding their wives and children just to keep them at home.

And Abram was very rich in cattle, in silver, and in gold. Genesis 13:2

And the LORD hath blessed my master (Abraham) greatly; and he is become great: and he hath given him flocks, and herds, and silver, and gold, and menservants, and maidservants, and camels, and asses.
Genesis 24:35

Isaac was a farmer like his Father.

The man (Isaac) became rich, and his wealth continued to grow until he became very wealthy.

He had so many flocks and herds and servants that the Philistines envied him.

Gen 26:13-14

In this way the man (Jacob) grew exceedingly prosperous and came to own large flocks, and maidservants and menservants, and camels and donkeys.
Gen 30:43.

Job 1:3 [b]His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east.


Shd i go on?
These Testimonies are not the Testimonies of lazy men who sat down prayed and wealth fell on them. Maybe you shd try praying and receiving wirhout working.

Proverbs 12:24 The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.

Proverbs 6:9-11 How long wilt thou sleep, O sluggard? when wilt thou arise out of thy sleep?
Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to sleep:
So shall thy poverty come as one that travelleth, and thy want as an armed man.


2 Thess 3:10 For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

I can go on.


UceeGod:

My friend, true wealth from God doesn't come from your hard work but God's GRACE, WILL & SOVEREIGNTY. God may decide to bless your WORK with wealth but it has to be according to His divine purpose
You have said nothing here.

God wishes that all His Children may Prosper and be in health even as their souls prospers, but go and sit down, fold your arms and tell yourself that the Grace of God and his Sovereign Will pour the wealth on you and see if hunger won't kill you.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by UceeGod: 7:08pm On Jul 05, 2019
Anas09:

What do you mean by pursuing money? And how does these pastors pursue money?
As a Christian leader, when your lifestyle is mostly about money, the messages you preach are mostly about getting wealthy, then you are worshipping Mammon. You can't be truly seeking God and Mammon at the same time, that's not the Christian way.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:10pm On Jul 05, 2019
Blackfire:
Una well-done o
Ooo. You welcome o
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:19pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

As a Christian leader, when your lifestyle is mostly about money, the messages you preach are mostly about getting wealthy, then you are worshipping Mammon. You can't be truly seeking God and Mammon at the same time, that's not the Christian way.
Is this what you perceive or this is true? You know that as a Christian you shd not lie abi? Have you followed these men and can sincerely say all the preach is wealth?

because, this month of July in Living Faith is all about the Supernatural. The Supernatural Workings of God in the lives of men. It's not about prosperity.

Could you be lying? As far as Living Faith is concerned Prosperity is preached in the month of prosperity, not in the Month of Wisdom or Praise, or Prayer, or Salvation, or the Holy Spirit, or Faith or Baptism. How did you come by this your postulations? Again Are you lying?

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:21pm On Jul 05, 2019
MrPresident1:


Buda for eartum how you dey now? grin
MrPresident1. I greet o. It have stay. Ya bodi no?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by UceeGod: 7:27pm On Jul 05, 2019
Anas09:

Is this what you perceive or this is true? You know that as a Christian you shd not lie abi? Have you followed these men and can sincerely say all the preach is wealth?

because, this month of July in Living Faith is all about the Supernatural. The Supernatural Workings of God in the lives of men. It's not about prosperity.

Could you be lying? As far as Living Faith is concerned Prosperity is preached in the month of prosperity, not in the Month of Wisdom or Praise, or Prayer, or Salvation, or the Holy Spirit, or Faith or Baptism. How did you come by this your postulations? Again Are you lying?
I can see from you're having it difficult comprehending my posts, so thus argument isn't yielding much.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:29pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

As a Christian leader, when your lifestyle is mostly about money, the messages you preach are mostly about getting wealthy, then you are worshipping Mammon. You can't be truly seeking God and Mammon at the same time, that's not the Christian way.
Do you even know what Christ means by 'You can't serve God and Mammon?'

You guys just pull up Scriptures wirhout understanding what they really mean.

Did God create Gold and Silver for satan and his agents?

If Adam had not fallen, will people using what God has freely given to them be termed sinful?

Who started telling Christians to shun worldly goods?

What did Jesus say? Between loving and serving Money (making money the object of your attention, stealing and cheating to get it. Manipulating people to get it, and can kill to get it) and working hard to get it, which is sin?

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:35pm On Jul 05, 2019
UceeGod:

I can see from you're having it difficult comprehending my posts, so thus argument isn't yielding much.
Oga, dey tin hook you for neck. Dey grammar wey I dey use no be big grammar.

Just answer my simple questions.

Make I speak for pigin?
This Tori wey you dey to say Evangelical preachers dey Na so so moni, I dey ask you say, you sure say Na true you dey tok?
because for Winners Chapel wey me I dey and I Also know say Christ Embassy too dey do, no be onli money dem dey preach o.

Like dis Mont so, no be moni tok at all.

Na weytin piple tok you hia or Na weytin you you know for ya sef?
No lie o.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:46pm On Jul 05, 2019
Anas09:


I don't really know him. Why?

Are you saying that you don't know Sunday Adelaja of Ukraine? undecided

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by MrPresident1: 7:50pm On Jul 05, 2019
Anas09:

MrPresident1. I greet o. It have stay. Ya bodi no?

Yes o, it has tayed well well. How have you been, trust you have been fine and well. All kinds of people have taken over NL: Zombies, satanists, shell monikers etc, they are the majority now commenting, all level headed and intelligent people have left the forum.

Do you see someone you call a Christian with his obnoxious homosexuality promoting, satan glorifying, and abominable abomination thread? Na them full here now, and we will not relent in showing them their future!

The evil mountain spreading spiritual, physical, and mental refuse all over the world will be burnt completely, this is the word of the LORD.

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