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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:56pm On Jul 05
Africa was termed "The Dark Continent". We were called Barbarians. When anyone wants to epitomizes poverty and backwardness, it's Africa they picture.

We were called Lazy in all things. But, today, the African Children are waking up based on their discovery from the scriptures that they are sleeping giants. They are getting the understanding that treasures lie unharnessed within them.
They are gathering the wisdom of God, the divine secrets of God and are synerging them together and are doing exploits.

The name of Africa is now being heard, yet it's still the Children of Africa who wld rise up to cast her down.

Why do you let satan use you so.

Can you through scriptures proof to me that God created wealth for satan and not for his Children?

Watch it, the giants arising from the African Churches, Oyedepo, Adeboye, T.B Joshua, David Ibieyomieh, Chris Oyakhilome and the rest, will be a scratch in the surface.

The world shall grow dark, and the people of the world, darker. But, watch the New Covenant practitioners and see.

We shall employ you guys, we shall have the answers.

It's Africa's turn.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Blackfire(m): 8:07pm On Jul 05
Anas09:

Oga, dey tin hook you for neck. Dey grammar wey I dey use no be big grammar.

Just answer my simple questions.

Make I speak for pigin?
This Tori wey you dey to say Evangelical preachers dey Na so so moni, I dey ask you say, you sure say Na true you dey tok?
because for Winners Chapel wey me I dey and I Also know say Christ Embassy too dey do, no be onli money dem dey preach o.

Like dis Mont so, no be moni tok at all.

Na weytin piple tok you hia or Na weytin you you know for ya sef?
No lie o.



Still serving it hot as ever......
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 8:07pm On Jul 05
MrPresident1:


Yes o, it has tayed well well. How have you been, trust you have been fine and well. All kinds of people have taken over NL: Zombies, satanists, shell monikers etc, they are the majority now commenting, all level headed and intelligent people have left the forum.

Do you see someone you call a Christian with his obnoxious homosexuality promoting, satan glorifying, and abominable abomination thread? Na them full here now, and we will not relent in showing them their future!

The evil mountain spreading spiritual, physical, and mental refuse all over the world will be burnt completely, this is the word of the LORD.
No small tin o. Everybody don just commot leave this place empty.

And about Homosexuality, my blood run cold for weytin my eyes dey read there.

Do you know that those who will usher in the reign of the AntiChrist will be those we termed brethren?
You didn't do.much to term that tide, why nah? Just few guys did all the tackling.

Once again, I see why the Lord said, put not your trust in man, for the arm of flesh will fail you.

If sombori bin tell me say Muttl.eyLaff go preach homosexuality as strong as he is doing now, I for spit for him face, true. Choi
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 8:08pm On Jul 05
Blackfire:




Still serving it hot as ever......
grin cheesy cheesy Leopard no dey fit change him spots nah.

How have you been Mr Black?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by CodeTemplar: 8:24pm On Jul 05
UceeGod:

I think you should reread my post so you can understand properly and I think you're the one being emotional here.
As I posted earlier, there's absolutely nothing wrong with God’s people being wealthy but it's unChristlike to continually emphasize on acquiring material possessions and flying private jets AS A CHRISTIAN LEADER. At the same time I'm not saying a Christian must be perpetually poor financially to be like Christ even though we all pass through financial difficulties - it's unavoidably part of the Christian life if we must grow in grace.
Show me anywhere in the Bible that Jesus Christ preached about pursuing wealth, show me anywhere in the Bible where Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, etc prayed or worked so hard for the wealth they had. Showe me anywhere in the Bible where God blessed them with material wealth because of their hard work.

My friend, true wealth from God doesn't come from your hard work but God's GRACE, WILL & SOVEREIGNTY. God may decide to bless your WORK with wealth but it has to be according to His divine purpose

The first bold part is extremely laughable. Jet usage is a function of economics and scale. Taking Winners Chapel for example, They do enough travel that covers routes with low air traffic and the work of God or spread of gospel would be severely impeded if they decide to be spending their limited time joining commercial airlines. If analysed well, it is cheaper to own a jet that can carry 30 at a time than for top winners pastors to be buying tickets.


As for the other bold part, show me the exact pastors who chase wealth cos I think very few on that list do.
Asking mega church pastors not to fly jets is likeq asking Buhari to do away with our national fleet because many poor Nigerians exist. He can't take commercial flights to Europe for sake of poor people he is serving.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by MrPresident1: 8:33pm On Jul 05
Anas09:

No small tin o. Everybody don just commot leave this place empty.

And about Homosexuality, my blood run cold for weytin my eyes dey read there.

Do you know that those who will usher in the reign of the AntiChrist will be those we termed brethren?
You didn't do.much to term that tide, why nah? Just few guys did all the tackling.

Once again, I see why the Lord said, put not your trust in man, for the arm of flesh will fail you.

If sombori bin tell me say Muttl.eyLaff go preach homosexuality as strong as he is doing now, I for spit for him face, true. Choi

The Bible says all the abominable people will have their part in the second death. Abomination is being promoted and it entered over 40pages shocked shocked shocked

Extremely dirty. I did not deign to comment on that extremely filthy, extremely dirty, extremely abominable thread.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by CodeTemplar: 8:35pm On Jul 05
Deuteronomy 28:2
And all these blessings shall come upon thee and overtake thee, if thou shall harken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.

Verses 3-13 then highlights these blessings that shall come upon thee, if thou shall harken unto the voice of the LORD thy God. So wealth is part of our benefits as 'Israelites'.

Prosperity isn't about wealth alone. It covers your ways, health, and soul.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by TVSA: 10:00pm On Jul 05
Oyedepo isn't the richest pastor in the world. Kenneth Copeland is 5 times richer than him

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 10:38pm On Jul 05
MrPresident1:


The Bible says all the abominable people will have their part in the second death. Abomination is being promoted and it entered over 40pages shocked shocked shocked

Extremely dirty. I did not deign to comment on that extremely filthy, extremely dirty, extremely abominable thread.
Extremely dirty thread it is to say the least.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 9:50am On Jul 06
OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying that you don't know Sunday Adelaja of Ukraine? undecided
I know about him, but can't speak about him.

Why did you ask if he were God sent? How do you know who is God sent away?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 9:53am On Jul 06
CodeTemplar:


The first bold part is extremely laughable. Jet usage is a function of economics and scale. Taking Winners Chapel for example, They do enough travel that covers routes with low air traffic and the work of God or spread of gospel would be severely impeded if they decide to be spending their limited time joining commercial airlines. If analysed well, it is cheaper to own a jet that can carry 30 at a time than for top winners pastors to be buying tickets.


As for the other bold part, show me the exact pastors who chase wealth cos I think very few on that list do.
Asking mega church pastors not to fly jets is kije asking Buhari to do away with our national fleet because many poor Nigerians exist. He can't take commercial flights to Europe for sake of poor people he is serving.
He has ran out of steam already. He won't answer you.

Most of these people form their opinions based on what people like Freeze say in the internet, if you really inquire as to what they personally know about these pastors, you'd discover they know little.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 9:56am On Jul 06
CodeTemplar:
Deuteronomy 28:2
And all these blessings shall come upon thee and overtake thee, if thou shall harken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.

Verses 3-13 then highlights these blessings that shall come upon thee, if thou shall harken unto the voice of the LORD thy God. So wealth is part of our benefits as 'Israelites'.

Prosperity isn't about wealth alone. It covers your ways, health, and soul.
Yes. That's why I opened this thread so that people who hate on the Evangelical pastors will come out to tell me if God is indeed against His Children enjoying what He created for them.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 9:58am On Jul 06
TVSA:
Oyedepo isn't the richest pastor in the world. Kenneth Copeland is 5 times richer than him
I know that dear.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Blackfire(m): 10:25am On Jul 06
Anas09:

grin cheesy cheesy Leopard no dey fit change him spots nah.

How have you been Mr Black?




Remind me not to be your 'enemy' grin grin grin
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Blackfire(m): 10:28am On Jul 06
Anas09:

Ooo. You welcome o





Kedu ka emere

Bawo ni

Comments ca va


Ni hao



cheesy grin grin
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:51am On Jul 06
Anas09:


I know about him, but can't speak about him.

Why did you ask if he were God sent? How do you know who is God sent away?

Do you really know the preachers you posted in the OP? undecided

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 12:42pm On Jul 06
OLAADEGBU:


Do you really know the preachers you posted in the OP? undecided
Outside of TB. Joshua, I know the rest because I have listened to their sermons and read their books.

Pls get to the point.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 12:43pm On Jul 06
Blackfire:






Kedu ka emere

Bawo ni

Comments ca va


Ni hao



cheesy grin grin

And in English, I am going fine.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 12:45pm On Jul 06
Blackfire:





Remind me not to be your 'enemy' grin grin grin
I don't have enemies. And, this is the truth. No one is worth pulling me to hellfire. No matter what anyone does, I forgive them. Make dem carry go abeg.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 12:47pm On Jul 06
Where is alBHAGDADI? I know he hates the Word Faith preachers. Where is OKcornel? Him too hates Word of Faith preachers.
Come over here let's look into the scriptures and see the evil in the Children of God owning and enjoying was originally created for them.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by OkCornel(m): 6:41pm On Jul 06
Anas09:
Where is alBHAGDADI? I know he hates the Word Faith preachers. Where is OKcornel? Him too hates Word of Faith preachers.
Come over here let's look into the scriptures and see the evil in the Children of God owning and enjoying was originally created for them.

Hate is too strong a word to associate me with.


Why do you say I hate word of faith preachers?
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:50pm On Jul 06
OkCornel:


Hate is too strong a word to associate me with.


Why do you say I hate word of faith preachers?
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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 7:55pm On Jul 06
OkCornel:


Hate is too strong a word to associate me with.


Why do you say I hate word of faith preachers?
Oh, sorry for using that word.

You disprove maybe a more appropriate word(?).

because they preach tithing and you are against Tithing.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by OkCornel(m): 7:56pm On Jul 06
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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by OkCornel(m): 7:58pm On Jul 06
Anas09:

Oh, sorry for using that word.

You disprove maybe a more appropriate word(?).

because they preach tithing and you are against Tithing.

Tithing? Oh, since I'm against the lies of monetary tithing preached in various Mammon centres...it now means I'm full of hatred against word of faith preachers right?


Modified: I am against the doctrine of obligatory monetary tithing, I don't hate those that preach it.

Disagreement...not hatred.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by orisa37: 8:45pm On Jul 06
Riches and Wealth are Parents of "TheFaith" in Christ.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by jesusjnr(m): 8:22pm On Jul 29
Mammon worshipper doing her master's bidding!

Anas09:
Someone sent this to me and I decided to share here.

[b]RICHEST CHURCHES IN THE WORLD:

1- Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints- $67.0 billon

2- Catholic Church - $30 billion +

3- Catholic Church Australia- $20.9 billion

4- Catholic Church Germany- $25.0 billion

5-Church of England $7.8 billion

6-Opus Dei (part of the Catholic Church) Italy- $2.8 billon

7-Church of Scientology- $2.0 billon

``NOW OBSERVE THAT THERE IS NO.....

RCCG
Winners
Christ Embassy
Synagogue
*No Pentecostal church at all*.

RICHEST PASTORS IN THE WORLD:
1 Bishop Oyedepo - $150 Million
2 Bishop TD Jakes - $147 Million
3 Pastor Chris Oyakhilome - $50 Million
4 Pastor Benny Hinn - $42 Million
5 Pastor Adeboye - $39 Million
6 Pastor Creflo Dollar - $27 Million (He used to be #1)
7 Pastor Kenneth Copeland - $25 Million
8 Evangelist Billy Graham - $25 Million
9 Prophet TB Joshua - $10 Million
10 Pastor Joseph Prince - $5 Million

*Observe again that none of the 4 richest churches mentioned have their leaders on this list of the Richest Pastors.*

The Pope is not there.
The Arch Bishop of Canterbury is not there.
The Bishop of Opus Dei is not there.
The Director of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is not there.

```NOW OBSERVE AGAIN.```

*6* out of the *10 Richest Pastors* are *blacks* , with *their congregation being predominantly black* .

4 out of the 10 richest Pastors have their *churches in Nigeria, the poverty capital of the world, the 147th most corrupt nation of the world, the home to the second deadliest terrorist group, the most unsafe place to give birth to in the world.*

Observe as well that the Richest Churches are situated in

1- USA
2- Vatican City
3- England

These are amongst the safest, less corrupt and most prosperous Nations.

*What a Paradox!! Jesus Christ fed the multitude, but in Nigeria the multitude feed the Men of God and General Overseers.*[/b]


And here was my response;

[b]If the Catholic Church was ran by an individual, he wld be that rich.

If LDS was ran by an individual, he wld be that rich.

Living Faith, RCCG, Christ Embassy, and the Synagogue are ran by individuals and they are that rich.

I don't know what people want. When the Evangelical Christians hadn't understood Kingdom principles of Financial Prosperity, hence remained poor, we were called Church Rats, today we understand and are harnessing them and we are seeing what our inheritances are, and are reaping them, the world is shouting. Ole Ole...

I'll really like to have a scriptural discussion with anyone who believes it is wrong for Christian individuals to be financially prosperous.
I have loads of questions.

Questions likes, Is Jehovah against is Children prospering materially?

Did he create Gold and Silver?

Why did he create them?

Who did He create them for?

For his 'enemy', satan and his followers?

If Abraham were to be alive today, wld Oyedepo's wealth be equated to his?

If Isaac who was richer than a whole nation of Philistine were to be alive today, wld Adeboye's wealth be compared to his?

If Job were to be alive today, wld Kenneth Copeland's wealth be compared to his?

If David was alive today, wld Benny Hinn's wealth be compared to his?

If Solomon were alive today, wld all the wealth of all these men you mentioned put together be compared to?


What did Jehovah say He'd reward those who diligently seek him with?


Eyes have not seen, ears have not heard neither has it entered into the hearts of men what God has preserved for those who Love Him.

And Peter asked Jesus and said,

...Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's,
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Mark 10:28-30.

God didn't create this earth for his enemies, everything on earth is for His Children. Only satan and his agents are against God's people prospering. They'd wish we remain poor so that we wld compromise our faith by doing his bidding. But, gone are those days.

These names you mentioned are the first generation Evangelical giants. The coming generations shall see far greater ttan Oyedepo, Adeboye, Kenneth Copeland and the rest.

Our enemies shall cry blood.

Let me hear your view.

Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 8:32pm On Jul 29
jesusjnr:
Mammon worshipper doing her master's bidding!

Now you want to respond to me?

Maybe you shd start by picking the points I raised in the Op and respond to them.

It's not enough to throw jibes.

Who created the things that accounts for the wealth on earth?

Satan or God?

Who were they created for?

Children of God or agents of satan?

Let's have an intelligent discussion. I'm up for it.

Don't be a coward who just insults but makes no sense in discusses.

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Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by petra1(m): 9:04pm On Jul 29
Anas09:
I need a scriptural discussion based on the Op, not discussion outside the Op.

Did God create these things?

If Yes, for who?

What is wrong with the People of God have wealth?

If the Patriarchs lived today, wld we regard them as materially minded and not true followers of God?

I'm itching to flood this thread with prosperity based scriptures.

Anyone?

This is eye opening . People attributed church money to the pastor . Pastor is not the owner of church money.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by jesusjnr(m): 10:11pm On Jul 29
To respond to your heart which has been dedicated to the worship of mammon?

What did you do to the response of uceegod?

What of the one I already responded to that I added to what he said?

So you want me to yet waste a response on your mammon infested heart?

No Anas09 Nairaland Jezebel, I am here to respond to your sustained attacks on me over the past few days, for it seemed my silence was emboldening you and giving you the courage to keep up with it, so get ready anas09 to be at the receiving end of attacks and know what it felt like.

But don't worry, for i'm not going to resort to lies and false accusations as you a habitual liar have done severally in the process for someone who claims to have a genuine intention, and not one which is clearly false, evil and ulterior motivated.

You attack just about anyone who backed me and criticized you for your attack on me, and make them look evil as if they are not entitled to their own opinion with the way you try to suppress their opinion by all means. Ironically the same you would criticize me for not allowing people to express their opinion, Lol. SMH

I regret my sincere attempt to make peace with you when you came back, and I tried to put the past behind us when I welcomed you back, at least you can remember when I pleaded with you not to resurrect our acrimonious past. And even on that cultism thread, i was like Anas09 please not here but that seemed to give more motivation for more attacks, because you took it to whole new level.

So here we are again to show that I was doing all that in vain because it involved probably the most unreasonable person ever.

This is not the first time you have done this, so never again would I give you this chance, except it becomes beyond the shadow of any reasonable doubt to me that you have repented from your spiteful and wicked ways. So I want you to bring it on now for you surely knew this about me.

Something you should know about me is that I don't give a Kobo about what people are saying about me, even if they are all saying the same thing, but what matter to me is what God is saying about me for that's what's mean everything to me.

For is it not what men said of Jesus that you guys are saying about me, and then it happened that I am the one that is emphasizing His own Words? But of course those who have been blinded by the devil would never be able to see what's actually going on.

So I am waiting Anas09 because anyone that says i have not tried by the way I have ignored you till now would not be telling the truth. I know say God know how I had tried not to let it descend to this level, for this was meant to take place days ago, but I thought twice about it, and instead kept calm. But you probably mistook that for weakness or approval so here we are.

Anas09:

Now you want to respond to me?

Maybe you shd start by picking the points I raised in the Op and respond to them.

It's not enough to throw jibes.

Who created the things that accounts for the wealth on earth?

Satan or God?

Who were they created for?

Children of God or agents of satan?

Let's have an intelligent discussion. I'm up for it.

Don't be a coward who just insults but makes no sense in discusses.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 10:39pm On Jul 29
jesusjnr:
To respond to your heart which has been dedicated to the worship of mammon?

What did you do to the response of uceegod?

What of the one I already responded to that I added to what he said?

So you want me to yet waste a response on your mammon infested heart?

No Anas09 Nairaland Jezebel, I am here to respond to your sustained attacks on me over the past few days, for it seemed my silence was emboldening you and giving you the courage to keep up with it, so get ready anas09 to be at the receiving end of attacks and know what it felt like.

But don't worry, for i'm not going to resort to lies and false accusations as you a habitual liar have done severally in the process for someone who claims to have a genuine intention, and not one which is clearly false, evil and ulterior motivated.

You attack just about anyone who backed me and criticized you for your attack on me, and make them look evil as if they are not entitled to their own opinion with the way you try to suppress their opinion by all means. Ironically the same you would criticize me for not allowing people to express their opinion, Lol. SMH

I regret my sincere attempt to make peace with you when you came back, and I tried to put the past behind us when I welcomed you back, at least you can remember when I pleaded with you not to resurrect our acrimonious past. And even on that cultism thread, i was like Anas09 please not here but that seemed to give more motivation for more attacks, because you took it to whole new level.

So here we are again to show that I was doing all that in vain because it involved probably the most unreasonable person ever.

This is not the first time you have done this, so never again would I give you this chance, except it becomes beyond the shadow of any reasonable doubt to me that you have repented from your spiteful and wicked ways. So I want you to bring it on now for you surely knew this about me.

Something you should know about me is that I don't give a Kobo about what people are saying about me, even if they are all saying the same thing, but what matter to me is what God is saying about me for that's what's mean everything to me.

For is it not what men said of Jesus that you guys are saying about me, and then it happened that I am the one that is emphasizing His own Words? But of course those who have been blinded by the devil would never be able to see what's actually going on.

So I am waiting Anas09 because anyone that says i have not tried by the way I have ignored you till now would not be telling the truth. I know say God know how I had tried not to let it descend to this level, for this was meant to take place days ago, but I thought twice about it, and instead kept calm. But you probably mistook that for weakness or approval so here we are.

Okay Jesusjnr. It's obvious you do not know Anas09 in Nairaland. You just picked a fight with a wrong chic. Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You be taata.

Let me advise you, Open a thread, a new thread and copy your Op here and post there and call me as you did here. I won't respond to you here. I need a new thread just for two of us.

Go on.
Re: Bishop Oyedepo, Pst Adeboye Etc Are Not God Sent Becos They Are Wealthy. by Anas09: 10:49pm On Jul 29
petra1:


This is eye opening . People attributed church money to the pastor . Pastor is not the owner of church money.
Did you see how they avoided this thread? I am waiting for the anti-prosperity preachers to come tell me that YHWH created the earth and everything in it, but determined that His own Children shd suffer in poverty while His enemy and his hordes enjoy what He has created.

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