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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Lovelive: 11:36am On Jul 08, 2019
AbuuBilaal:
Firstly, comparing pigs to cows is an erroneous comparison. Cows are eating by virtually everybody in the country. I do not know any tribe that doesn't eat beef. Rather, all other meat sources only supplement beef.

Secondly, it's a simple issue. Fulanis should take their cattle to the north and let's see who will lose more. Youruba man that can't even manage a dozen goats, how will he get meat for his wedding, naming and other ceremonies.

Thirdly, cattle is reared and grazed but pigs are confined. Until pigs are reared like cattle, there's no need for a 'puga' scheme.

Fourthly, ruga created to solve a societal nuisance. Meaning that it was born out of necessity. Farmers and cattle owners are struggling for scare resources - green pasture and land - but this isn't the case with piggery.

In summary, we should all try to be objective and realistic. A good and peaceful Nigeria will benefit us all. Let's not join hands with trouble makers and agents of anarchy.

I rest my case.
I know you. You are from South Sudan.
Shift jo.
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by mansamusa950: 11:36am On Jul 08, 2019
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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by tiredoflife(m): 11:36am On Jul 08, 2019
AbuuBilaal:
Firstly, comparing pigs to cows is an erroneous comparison. Cows are eating by virtually everybody in the country. I do not know any tribe that doesn't eat beef. Rather, all other meat sources only supplement beef.

Secondly, it's a simple issue. Fulanis should take their cattle to the north and let's see who will lose more. Youruba man that can't even manage a dozen goats, how will he get meat for his wedding, naming and other ceremonies.

Thirdly, cattle is reared and grazed but pigs are confined. Until pigs are reared like cattle, there's no need for a 'puga' scheme.

Fourthly, ruga created to solve a societal nuisance. Meaning that it was born out of necessity. Farmers and cattle owners are struggling for scare resources - green pasture and land - but this isn't the case with piggery.

In summary, we should all try to be objective and realistic. A good and peaceful Nigeria will benefit us all. Let's not join hands with trouble makers and agents of anarchy.

I rest my case.

U fool
U will form liberal till they slit ur throat

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by AbuuBilaal(m): 11:38am On Jul 08, 2019
Lovelive:

I know you. You are from South Sudan.
Shift jo.
cheesy
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Neoteny(m): 11:39am On Jul 08, 2019
Karatum:


very stale undecided

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Kunfu(m): 11:41am On Jul 08, 2019
Starboytwo:
we are not going anywhere
We die here
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by ScotMisile: 11:45am On Jul 08, 2019
Starboytwo:
we are not going anywhere

We dye here
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by tooth4tooth: 11:46am On Jul 08, 2019
AbuuBilaal:
Firstly, comparing pigs to cows is an erroneous comparison. Cows are eating by virtually everybody in the country. I do not know any tribe that doesn't eat beef 
You are wrong ,they are all meat and I know countless number of people who don't eat meat (red meat)for health reasons,mostly cow and goat.So there is nothing erroneous about the comparison.

Secondly, it's a simple issue. Fulanis should take their cattle to the north and let's see who will lose more
You are wrong again.You write as if the Fulanis give free cows downsouth. They can bring from the north ,then we buy.There is nothing wrong sticking to the old tradition....... .They bring,we buy.
Why write as if cattle rearing is the bain of Nigeria economy. Do herders even pay tax?


cattle is reared and grazed but pigs are confined
Cattle is reared and grazed only in Nigeria and some subs-sahara Africans counties. When you confine cattle,it is called RANCHING.That is what we want in the south.
If para venture you want stick to the grazing tradition,do it in your backyard as applicable to traditional way of rearing pig here.

Fourthly, ruga created to solve a societal nuisance. Meaning that it was born out of necessity. Farmers and cattle owners are struggling for scare resources - green pasture and land

The big question is .......Who are the people creating the societal nuisance
The necessity here is to disarm all the herders of their assault rifles they have been using to wreck havoc on innocent people. Let us see if they won't embrace peace

To cut the long story short. We are tired of all these Colony and Ruga hullabaloo .Any Fulani that appreciate the abundance of greener pasture in the south should prepare his mind for ranching.

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by ScotMisile: 11:47am On Jul 08, 2019
babaolofin:


Are you sure this is not the handwork of 3rd party people? Yorubas are more enlightened than all this nonsense. Yoruba pig farmers association does not exist.
Ewu Gambia

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by ScotMisile: 11:50am On Jul 08, 2019
benjsniper33:


No them Fulanis were the invaders. They rampaged Osun and ibadan but we’re flushed out. They were kicked to the outskirts of Kwara state. They would have been totally flushed outta kwara if not for the civil war on within the Yoruba empire that time

Yoruba history is replete with wars. They try as much As possible to avoid wars but if you force them, you will have war , a mad one. The west is very it wild.

Every bad thing happening in Nigeria Began in the Southwest. (Not something goog though) but the west somehow has a way of managing things well at least to keep the region peaceful, foster Yoruba prosperity and peaceful relationship with other tribes.

Fulani are playing a dirty game, Yorubas LOVE dirty Games

For this first time am agreeing with a Yoruba man on this. ..

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by WhoDoWeBlame: 12:03pm On Jul 08, 2019
Ostrogoth:


Ironically enough, northerners dont really consume beef! They consume more of goats, I've lived in the north so I know what am talking about. That is why they want to push the Fulani down south, they feel we lovers of beef should also be lovers of beef-rearers. And for your information, our southern ancestors did very well without Fulani cattle; we had our own goats and cattle which we reared on our individual private properties and I believe that now that we are beginning to discover just how lucrative a cow farm can be, many people will soon be going into it. What we dont need is the cattle and the kidnapping/maiming/killing/raping that goes along with the Fulani's cow monopoly!
You are really enlightened my brother from the bolded.Cows reared down here are known to be well built and not these tall lean ones that have almost the same mileage with a 10years old commercial vehicle we see them parading

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Nnamdi222: 12:07pm On Jul 08, 2019
Chai naija
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by harley88(m): 12:07pm On Jul 08, 2019
AbuuBilaal:
Firstly, comparing pigs to cows is an erroneous comparison. Cows are eating by virtually everybody in the country. I do not know any tribe that doesn't eat beef. Rather, all other meat sources only supplement beef.

Secondly, it's a simple issue. Fulanis should take their cattle to the north and let's see who will lose more. Youruba man that can't even manage a dozen goats, how will he get meat for his wedding, naming and other ceremonies.

Thirdly, cattle is reared and grazed but pigs are confined. Until pigs are reared like cattle, there's no need for a 'puga' scheme.

Fourthly, ruga created to solve a societal nuisance. Meaning that it was born out of necessity. Farmers and cattle owners are struggling for scare resources - green pasture and land - but this isn't the case with piggery.

In summary, we should all try to be objective and realistic. A good and peaceful Nigeria will benefit us all. Let's not join hands with trouble makers and agents of anarchy.

I rest my case.

You have sense
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by tundeontop: 12:17pm On Jul 08, 2019
SheikhMuniru:
Where Are We Going In This Country??

Burundi
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Duggedised12(f): 12:30pm On Jul 08, 2019
Dasuks:


The size of the cattle market doesnt necessarily trivialze the PUGA initiative (if u were to apply the RUGA rationale). Cattle is not important to the extent of warranting undue land grabbing and murder of crop farmers.

In case u didnt know crop farming is the more profitable resource wise. When looking at land/water use efficiency, protein production crop farming produces 1.5 trillion more pounds of products(includes protein) with 115 million acress less land...

Those helpless farmers that are being killed without redress are actually more important. And if u analyze properly the pork collective is actually more organized and connected to the economy. Nomadic herdsmen who rarely use the services of the modern economy and leave very light traces, commercially, on their communities are less important than globally active agro business people who have transactions on an international scale and invest billions in the economy(eg the pig farmers)

Where are the billion naira cattle processing plants ? You cant graze on crops that are more profitable and important than your cattle and still expect to get land for free. Whatbare the plans for regenerating the crops and grass when the cows are done feeding ?? Do you think RUGA is really a solution? Buy the land plant it and graze on it sounds like a better solution. Stop twisting the laws of the market economy to favor some ethnic bias..

There are ranches in cross river that produce milk yogurt and package beef with higher meat content.
Do they ask for free land ? Pls stop trying to drag the economy back to medieval times. Resource use should be geared toward efficiency not noisy actions.

What is important is for any guilty herders to be arrested and brought to justice. Every life matters. And we cant have ppl die without consequences. We r embedding the same anarchy you're referencing by toeing that line.
tell that ignorant Fulani man. With global warming and all, we can even generate organic fertilizer from standard ranches as cow manure is one of the best organic manure. Its so sad ,I wish I was tying from outside Nigeria as its obvious our leaders have no foresight to build a better country . unfortunately ,the gap between us and the rest of the world is increasing yearly. undecided
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by GistFullGround: 12:32pm On Jul 08, 2019
What about CATFISH COLONY? Remember, because we need 15 acres in every local government
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by WhoDoWeBlame: 12:36pm On Jul 08, 2019
Johnbauer:

we can import cattle from Texas or Kansas if that will make you and your gangs keep your vampire cattles away from our land
Baba Awolowo imported some from Argentina way back,though i cant really place the time(historians can help me out),but subsequent fulani's apologist made sure they were wiped out

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by MightySparrow: 12:38pm On Jul 08, 2019
I have two goats let. all goat owners meet here to demand our right from Mr. president.

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by WhoDoWeBlame: 12:39pm On Jul 08, 2019
wifeesnatcher:




wake that your case Mr man. have you ever condemn your kinsmen killing people unjustly


should a human kill another human because of one useless beef. it seems all you people brain no dey work for that side


Fulani had been roaming about with their cows more than 3 decades and no one has been disturbing them. they started creating enmity for themselves by grazing on people crops and killing them unjustly. I'm sure if it's the period they still live in peace with their host that the FG bring out this initiative, many Nigerians won't complain


the truth is no one can trust Fulani to move around them with their cows not to talk of giving them land for one rubbish Ruga



Buhari is bringing division with his useless initiative. you can't force a tribe over other tribes Haba na only Fulani dey Nigeria
Rwanda comes to mind,how can people at the helms of affairs be so insensitive to the consequences of tribalism
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by pawesome(m): 12:46pm On Jul 08, 2019
AbuuBilaal:
Firstly, comparing pigs to cows is an erroneous comparison. Cows are eating by virtually everybody in the country. I do not know any tribe that doesn't eat beef. Rather, all other meat sources only supplement beef.

Secondly, it's a simple issue. Fulanis should take their cattle to the north and let's see who will lose more. Youruba man that can't even manage a dozen goats, how will he get meat for his wedding, naming and other ceremonies.

Thirdly, cattle is reared and grazed but pigs are confined. Until pigs are reared like cattle, there's no need for a 'puga' scheme.

Fourthly, ruga created to solve a societal nuisance. Meaning that it was born out of necessity. Farmers and cattle owners are struggling for scare resources - green pasture and land - but this isn't the case with piggery.

In summary, we should all try to be objective and realistic. A good and peaceful Nigeria will benefit us all. Let's not join hands with trouble makers and agents of anarchy.

I rest my case.
A pig cost as much as a cow.. So what you saying? Who are the trouble makers if not the Fulanis...
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Ostrogoth(m): 12:51pm On Jul 08, 2019
WhoDoWeBlame:
You are really enlightened my brother from the bolded.Cows reared down here are known to be well built and not these tall lean ones that have almost the same mileage with a 10years old commercial vehicle we see them parading

Thanks bruv, but your observation on their mileage really cracked me up!

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by sagehacker: 1:21pm On Jul 08, 2019
Association of 404 eater.... We want buhari to also consider the establishment of dog colony

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by KardinalZik(m): 1:26pm On Jul 08, 2019
OFFICIALAPCNG:
WHAT A DISGUSTING THREAD
Hypocrisy is bad
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Staro: 1:27pm On Jul 08, 2019
Gbam
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by 3Ceagle(m): 1:37pm On Jul 08, 2019
AbuuBilaal:
Firstly, comparing pigs to cows is an erroneous comparison. Cows are eating by virtually everybody in the country. I do not know any tribe that doesn't eat beef. Rather, all other meat sources only supplement beef.

Secondly, it's a simple issue. Fulanis should take their cattle to the north and let's see who will lose more. Youruba man that can't even manage a dozen goats, how will he get meat for his wedding, naming and other ceremonies.

Thirdly, cattle is reared and grazed but pigs are confined. Until pigs are reared like cattle, there's no need for a 'puga' scheme.

Fourthly, ruga created to solve a societal nuisance. Meaning that it was born out of necessity. Farmers and cattle owners are struggling for scare resources - green pasture and land - but this isn't the case with piggery.

In summary, we should all try to be objective and realistic. A good and peaceful Nigeria will benefit us all. Let's not join hands with trouble makers and agents of anarchy.

I rest my case.

Let the "Solution" start in the north first. What is so difficult about starting it in the north, abi something else dey inside? It's very alarming that some people don't see the bigger picture. This is how we hastily draw up policies and end up they way we are today. Did the government discuss this in details with our people? What is wrong with ranching? If ownership of land is vested on the state, will it be wrong for this people
to come together and lease land from the state government. Mind you, you can be in the city but there are a lot of peasants farmers who are at the hinterland and depend on this lands for subsistence farming, They may end up becoming tenant in their land. I believe in natural integration just as the people in the south have lived for so many years without crisis and not forced integration using the state powers.
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Nobody: 1:47pm On Jul 08, 2019
Duggedised12:
tell that ignorant Fulani man. With global warming and all, we can even generate organic fertilizer from standard ranches as cow manure is one of the best organic manure. Its so sad ,I wish I was tying from outside Nigeria as its obvious our leaders have no foresight to build a better country . unfortunately ,the gap between us and the rest of the world is increasing yearly. undecided


What bothers me is not even the vapidity of the idea of getting free land, as the manner with which they want their demands met. That is, unquestioned and sheepish compliance... who is going to bend the laws of business to aid some unstructured lifestyle. Roaming for decades without any land investments ? No real assets, just cows with a temporary lifespan ?

Honestly, we need an honest leader with no allegiances toward any particular region. Buhari is a disappointment for even floating this useless idea in the first place. And that nonsense by those Arewa youths last week? Imagine. Where are we standing atm ?

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by Gudiza(m): 2:04pm On Jul 08, 2019
Yours Sincerely.
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by ScotMisile: 2:06pm On Jul 08, 2019
Dasuks:



What bothers me is not even the vapidity of the idea of getting free land, as the manner with which they want their demands met. That is, unquestioned and sheepish compliance... who is going to bend the laws of business to aid some unstructured lifestyle. Roaming for decades without any land investments ? No real assets, just cows with a temporary lifespan ?

Honestly, we need an honest leader with no allegiances toward any particular region. Buhari is a disappointment for even floating this useless idea in the first place. And that nonsense by those Arewa youths last week? Imagine. Where are we standing atm ?

We need a contract President.

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by veesion: 2:21pm On Jul 08, 2019
When NNAMDI KALU CALLED NIGERIA A ZOO
YOU LOTS WERE CALLING HIM NAMES
Many allowed sentiments to eat them up beyond redemption
They instead insisted to lick the asses of those that have kept them poor,those among you that have seen the handwriting are speaking up daily but many prefer perish courtesy of hatred, ignorance and sentiments

Even if you hate some of us,who also display hatred and other forms of unwelcome acts,for your own good GRAB THE MESSAGE and leave the messenger
Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by SmellingAnus(m): 2:43pm On Jul 08, 2019
AbuuBilaal:
Firstly, comparing pigs to cows is an erroneous comparison. Cows are eating by virtually everybody in the country. I do not know any tribe that doesn't eat beef. Rather, all other meat sources only supplement beef.

Secondly, it's a simple issue. Fulanis should take their cattle to the north and let's see who will lose more. Youruba man that can't even manage a dozen goats, how will he get meat for his wedding, naming and other ceremonies.

Thirdly, cattle is reared and grazed but pigs are confined. Until pigs are reared like cattle, there's no need for a 'puga' scheme.

Fourthly, ruga created to solve a societal nuisance. Meaning that it was born out of necessity. Farmers and cattle owners are struggling for scare resources - green pasture and land - but this isn't the case with piggery.

In summary, we should all try to be objective and realistic. A good and peaceful Nigeria will benefit us all. Let's not join hands with trouble makers and agents of anarchy.

I rest my case.
I like your comment... In other words... Let Ruga be established in Northern states that accept it excluding the middle belt that have kicked against it while pig farming should be established in the South excluding states that don't want it.... Perfect...

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Re: RUGA: Association Of Pig Farmers Writes Buhari, Demand “pig Colony” by enemyofprogress: 2:56pm On Jul 08, 2019
What is good for cows is good for pigs

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