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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 4:32pm On Jul 08, 2019
decub:

Well, the Electoral Act provides for the appointment of any other staff of the commission.

It went on to grant INEC powers to delegate authority to any staff (ad hoc or permanent) so RATECH might not be illegal.

If there is a RATECH (in the first place) appointed by the commission, trained by the commission and working for the commission under some specific instruction/guideline, then needless to call them illegal workers as the law already gave them such powers.

He is certainly not an illegal "adhoc worker" of INEC.
(He is not a Staff though, staffing goes beyond "employment", even if not adhoc, it involves "probation and confirmation of that employment"wink

he will be mor eproperly defined as an "Adhoc Employee" of INEC.

But the crux of the matter here is that INEC, which reserves the right to stipulate the the duties, responsibilities and SCOPE of SUTIES" of anybody it hires, albeit temporarily or permanently, has said that this "RATECH" employee has gone beyond his "SCOPE OF ASSIGNED DUTIES", if he actually "transmit results electronically" to a supposed INEC Server!

This RATECH might also he opening himself to jail time, for contravening the Electoral Act, which forbids the transmission of election results, ELECTORNICALLY.
I just hope, in his zeal to support a "partisan policy" (he is Igbo and we know where the allegiance of most Igbos lie, between APC and PDP), he wont land himself in jail, after the election Petition has been decided, because he is making his testimony ON OATH!


If it is true testimony => he breaks the Electoral Act 2015 => JAIL TIME
If it is false testimony => he is guilty of lying to the Court under Oath (Perjury) => JAIL TIME

It takes a really stupid individual, to emesh yourself into this kind of "power play" by Politicians, no matter how much they promise you!

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Jobac: 4:32pm On Jul 08, 2019
muykem:
Your use of words is very uncivilized and lack decorum required in public discussions such as on nairaland. I don't join issue with people acting on emotion rather than fact and law. Guide your utterance next time. Thanks.
You are just too civilized. You should have placed that Catholic Igbo where she belongs.

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by garfield1: 4:32pm On Jul 08, 2019
dadexcel:
......in that case the entire electioneering process should be a sharrade since the umpire according to you operated in illegality right?
The actual elections and transmission were done with legally recognized staffs

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by garfield1: 4:33pm On Jul 08, 2019
Daboomb:


He is certainly not an illegal "adhoc worker" of INEC.
(He is not a Staff though, staffing goes beyond "employment", even if not adhoc, it involves "probation and confirmation of that employment"wink

he will be mor eproperly defined as an "Adhoc Employee" of INEC.

But the crux of the matter here is that INEC, which reserves the right to stipulate the the duties, responsibilities and SCOPE of SUTIES" of anybody it hires, albeit temporarily or permanently, has said that this "RATECH" employee has gone beyond his "SCOPE OF ASSIGNED DUTIES", if he actually "transmit results electronically" to a supposed INEC Server!

This RATECH might also he opening himself to jail time, for contravening the Electoral Act, which forbids the transmission of election results, ELECTORNICALLY.
I just hope, in his zeal to support a "partisan policy" (he is Igbo and we know where the allegiance of most Igbos lie, between APC and PDP), he wont land himself in jail, after the election Petition has been decided, because he is making his testimony ON OATH!


If it is true testimony => he breaks the Electoral Act 2015 => JAIL TIME
If it is false testimony => he is guilty of lying to the Court under Oath (Perjury) => JAIL TIME

It takes a really stupid individual, to emesh yourself into this kind of "power play" by Politicians, no matter how much they promise you!
Gbam
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by OyiboOyibo(m): 4:33pm On Jul 08, 2019
One thing is sure, after the tribunals judgement, INEC chairman will be jailed for violations and for breaking INEC rules

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by tuniski: 4:33pm On Jul 08, 2019
Daboomb:



Buhari's Lawyers reminded this INEC "adhoc staff" that INEC has "No Designation" in its record, for the designation he was claiming for himself => You are just acting above yourself, giving yourself title and actions you are not authorised to do! (Even if you transmitted results, it was at your personal behest) Chai! grin grin

Not only that., let us assume you actully "transmitted result"!
INEC reminded him that only a Presiding officer is empowered to "transmit result" so whatever result you transmitted was "unauthorised and invalid".

Finally, if the Electoral Act has not been amended nor signed into Law, and the current Electoral Act PROHIBITS the Electronic transmission of results, whatever result transmitted electorally, is still NULL and VOID because a Law Court would not "recognise or give authority| to an ILLEGALITY.

Honestly, the Supreme Court Judges should stop these carricature and shennanigans they are doing with tax-payers Money, they already know what the outcome of this Atiku's legal charade will be...........they should just go straight to the point.


We told "Twerking Senator" Adeleke back then that he should stop his "legal charade" but he wont listen, now that he had been beaten 5-2 at the Supreme Court, he is congratulating Oyetola!......after wasting the time of the Court, time that could have been used to decide other worthy cases that involve the lives of people.
Joke
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 4:35pm On Jul 08, 2019
chinedu234:
For the sake of legal arguments,which law empowers inec to make rules for conducts required for smooth elections.

INEC does not make rules.....INEC follows RULES already SINGED in to LAW (Electoral Act 2015).

As long as whetever INEC does, is supported by the contents of that valid law, INEC is safe and sound, irrespective of how any of us here feels about it.
grin grin

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Nobody: 4:36pm On Jul 08, 2019
garfield1:

Thank you.it was an illegal creation.the electoral act regognizes presiding officers and assistant presiding officers not ratech

You don't seem to realize the point of bringing the RATECH in. He has superior knowledge of the workings of the card readers and servers. That's what he is there to establish; that part of their training included the electronic transmission of results and as RATECH he had codes and other accessories to the server

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Jobac: 4:36pm On Jul 08, 2019
OyiboOyibo:
One thing is sure, after the tribunals judgement, INEC chairman will be jailed for violations and for breaking INEC rules
Yada yada yada...only in your failed Biafra.
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by OyiboOyibo(m): 4:36pm On Jul 08, 2019
Daboomb:


He is certainly not an illegal "adhoc worker" of INEC.
(He is not a Staff though, staffing goes beyond "employment", even if not adhoc, it involves "probation and confirmation of that employment"wink

he will be mor eproperly defined as an "Adhoc Employee" of INEC.

But the crux of the matter here is that INEC, which reserves the right to stipulate the the duties, responsibilities and SCOPE of SUTIES" of anybody it hires, albeit temporarily or permanently, has said that this "RATECH" employee has gone beyond his "SCOPE OF ASSIGNED DUTIES", if he actually "transmit results electronically" to a supposed INEC Server!

This RATECH might also he opening himself to jail time, for contravening the Electoral Act, which forbids the transmission of election results, ELECTORNICALLY.
I just hope, in his zeal to support a "partisan policy" (he is Igbo and we know where the allegiance of most Igbos lie, between APC and PDP), he wont land himself in jail, after the election Petition has been decided, because he is making his testimony ON OATH!


If it is true testimony => he breaks the Electoral Act 2015 => JAIL TIME
If it is false testimony => he is guilty of lying to the Court under Oath (Perjury) => JAIL TIME

It takes a really stupid individual, to emesh yourself into this kind of "power play" by Politicians, no matter how much they promise you!


Can you hear yourself idiot, you just wasted you time and MB writing gibberish just to get likes and shares from APC e-rats... Did the guy employed himself?

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by olutop(m): 4:37pm On Jul 08, 2019
Neoteny:
So INEC guidelines do not recognize something called a RATECH, this man was not assigned to a specific station, he did not use the card reader to electronically submit results, and he's not aware of INEC's guidelines regarding using electronic voting during the election...

....so how exactly is he a witness again?
Because RACtech were the ones who thought us (Apo1 and PO), The use of that SCR, And they were the ones who help us out whenever we have issues with the SCR, In a sane Society the INEC will come out plain about the conduct of the election, the server issue and the stakeholders will resign, leaving the parties to be fighting each other... Because I personally transmitted the result of my PU Through the SCR to INEC server as instructed by the E O through the SPO...

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 4:37pm On Jul 08, 2019
tuniski:

Joke

I wont call you DUMB but l think you will have been better-served, if you rebut my arguements, is more logically sound, legally valid arguements of yours.

We are all learning from each other. undecided

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by otokx(m): 4:38pm On Jul 08, 2019
Wole Olanipekun again, PDP maybe in trouble.
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Clem1011: 4:38pm On Jul 08, 2019
If that is the case, the letters should be presented let's see the signature.
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by OyiboOyibo(m): 4:39pm On Jul 08, 2019
One thing is sure.... PROF Yakubu is a fraudster
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 4:40pm On Jul 08, 2019
OyiboOyibo:



Can you hear yourself idiot, you just wasted you time and MB writing gibberish just to get likes and shares from APC e-rats... Did the guy employed himself?

No need to be abusive or insulting..........it only TENDS TO confirms two things about you no one knows previously:

1) Intellectually defective and unable to make logically sound arguments

2.) Very defective parental Upbringing!


But l am willing to cut you some slack and let that insult pass unnoticed.

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by decub: 4:42pm On Jul 08, 2019
garfield1:

Nice submission.unfortunately,server results or manipulation of server results just like card reader accreditation is not a ground for nullifying elections according to that same electoral act and the supreme court clearly upheld it in 2016
At a point, I stopped following the electoral law as amended because of the delay in signing it into law. But I know that this is what the amendment look like so the issue of the 2016 verdict might not also hold; that is, if it was later signed into law.
Insertion of a new subsection (1A)
and amendment to subsection (5)

The insertion of the new subsection
1A mandates the Commission to keep
a Register of Voters as the National
Register of Voters in its National
Headquarters and other locations as
it may determine. It also provides for
the keeping of the Voters Register in
an electronic format in INEC’s central
database, as well as in manual, printed
or hard copy format.


Now the issue of 'the exact role of these technicians' comes to mind.

If there's ever a RATECH, then there should be some kinda synergy. It's either they transmit a unanimous result as agreed by all other officers or they transmit exactly what the presiding officer announced (should announce).
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by OyiboOyibo(m): 4:43pm On Jul 08, 2019
olutop:

Because RACtech were the ones who thought us (Apo1 and PO), The use of that SCR, And they were the ones who help us out whenever we have issues with the SCR, In a sane Society the INEC will come out plain about the conduct of the election, the server issue and the stakeholders will resign, leaving the parties to be fighting each other... Because I personally transmitted the result of my PU Through the SCR to INEC server as instructed by the E O through the SPO...


Thank you for speaking the truth to shut up those APC e-rats here who can't survive without N-Power stipends

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 4:44pm On Jul 08, 2019
garfield1:

The actual elections and transmission were done with legally recognized staffs

Peeps dont seem to understand that "there is a legal reason" why INEC Rules state that ONLY Presiding Officers (PO) can transmit results! grin grin

They are Full/PERMANENT INEC staff, accountable to INEC as an Institution of government!
Do you think a Permanent INEC staff would come to court to give evidence against his own organisation, for the benefit of those suing his organisation?

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by tech18: 4:45pm On Jul 08, 2019
This RATECH doesn't know his job oooh


The main job of RATECH is to troubleshoot ,replace and reconfigure the card reader if any technical issues erupts.

E-collation was part of the training manual and even the card reader.But NOBODY did any e_collation ,because it was not supported by law.


I believe there are many people that served as RATECHs,POs and APPs here

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by garfield1: 4:46pm On Jul 08, 2019
Buckubuck:


You don't seem to realize the point of bringing the RATECH in. He has superior knowledge of the workings of the card readers and servers. That's what he is there to establish; that part of their training included the electronic transmission of results and as RATECH he had codes and other accessories to the server
Unfortunately,the role of transmission is solelyvfor the presiding officers.therefore,rates role of transmission is unlawful
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by blank(f): 4:46pm On Jul 08, 2019
garfield1:

He worked for inec quite alright but since he's not recognized by law,he is illegal and his role wont be captured by the court.transmission of results is clearly the job of p.os legally.ratechs are unknown.

Is that not what Atiku is trying to prove? That INEC acted outside the law by appointing RATECH and using them to illegally transmit data electronically?

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 4:48pm On Jul 08, 2019
decub:

At a point, I stopped following the electoral law as amended because of the delay in signing it into law. But I know that this is what the amendment look like so the issue of the 2016 verdict might not also hold; that is, if it was later signed into law.
Insertion of a new subsection (1A)
and amendment to subsection (5)

The insertion of the new subsection
1A mandates the Commission to keep
a Register of Voters as the National
Register of Voters in its National
Headquarters and other locations as
it may determine. It also provides for
the keeping of the Voters Register in
an electronic format in INEC’s central
database, as well as in manual, printed
or hard copy format.


Now the issue of 'the exact role of these technicians' comes to mind.

If there's ever a RATECH, then there should be some kinda synergy. It's either they transmit a unanimous result as agreed by all other officers or they transmit exactly what the presiding officer announced (should announce).

Thank you very much for dealing "on facts".

However, it is unfortunate that the Amended Electoral Bill, was NEVER SIGNED INTO LAW by Mr. President ..........so, it is the 2015 Electoral Act that is still the "guiding valid Law"!

And that Law says it is PROHIBITTED TO TRANSMIT ELECTION RESULTS ELECTRONICALLY.
That is why l think this RATECH has just put himself into jeopardy. undecided undecided

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by garfield1: 4:48pm On Jul 08, 2019
decub:

At a point, I stopped following the electoral law as amended because of the delay in signing it into law. But I know that this is what the amendment look like so the issue of the 2016 verdict might not also hold; that is, if it was later signed into law.
Insertion of a new subsection (1A)
and amendment to subsection (5)

The insertion of the new subsection
1A mandates the Commission to keep
a Register of Voters as the National
Register of Voters in its National
Headquarters and other locations as
it may determine. It also provides for
the keeping of the Voters Register in
an electronic format in INEC’s central
database, as well as in manual, printed
or hard copy format.


Now the issue of 'the exact role of these technicians' comes to mind.

If there's ever a RATECH, then there should be some kinda synergy. It's either they transmit a unanimous result as agreed by all other officers or they transmit exactly what the presiding officer announced (should announce).
buhari never signed anything,the supreme court verdict is the latest happening and overrules any other law

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by tech18: 4:49pm On Jul 08, 2019
olutop:

Because RACtech were the ones who thought us (Apo1 and PO), The use of that SCR, And they were the ones who help us out whenever we have issues with the SCR, In a sane Society the INEC will come out plain about the conduct of the election, the server issue and the stakeholders will resign, leaving the parties to be fighting each other... Because I personally transmitted the result of my PU Through the SCR to INEC server as instructed by the E O through the SPO...

My brother what did you transmit? is it the details of the accredited voters or the total votes scored by each party?

Did you enter ALL THE PARTIES AND THE VOTES SCORED INTO THE SCR(Smart Card Reader)?

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by gare(f): 4:50pm On Jul 08, 2019
muykem:
Atiku lawyers are not doing well how will bring somebody that his role is not known to law as a prime witness.

Na you employ the guy or Na you sign his offer letter

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by garfield1: 4:51pm On Jul 08, 2019
blank:


Is that not what Atiku is trying to prove? That INEC acted outside the law by appointing RATECH and using them to illegally transmit data electronically?
No,unfortunately he is doing the opposite.most of you atikulators either do not know the law or did not read his petition.atiku is trying to prove the existence of a server by using ratech whose role in transmitting results were illegal.he is not challenging their use,he is supporting them
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Kenturkey048(m): 4:52pm On Jul 08, 2019
olutop:

Because RACtech were the ones who thought us (Apo1 and PO), The use of that SCR, And they were the ones who help us out whenever we have issues with the SCR, In a sane Society the INEC will come out plain about the conduct of the election, the server issue and the stakeholders will resign, leaving the parties to be fighting each other... Because I personally transmitted the result of my PU Through the SCR to INEC server as instructed by the E O through the SPO...
me personally don't know what point inec is tryna prove ..our ward consisted 23 pooling units and we all transmitted result electronically when we got the the RAC,with the help of the RATECH guy posted with us ..we had to sleep over till the next morning which was Sunday just to get network by midnight ..

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by OyiboOyibo(m): 4:54pm On Jul 08, 2019
Some APC e-rats are arguing out of point... PDP wants to use the tech guy to established that INEC server exist..... Later they will mandate the tribunal to check the results in the server which showed that Atiku won according to their legal team
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Daboomb: 4:54pm On Jul 08, 2019
blank:


Is that not what Atiku is trying to prove? That INEC acted outside the law by appointing RATECH and using them to illegally transmit data electronically?

Not so Sir!

INEC basis of defense is that IT DID NOT TRANSMIT nor Authorise anyone to TRANSMIT Election results ELECTRONICALLY ......which is something prohitted by the Elelctoral Act 2015 (the law in effect and guiding the 2019 elections).

So, even if Atiku and his team can prove that election results were transmitted electronically, (which is like proving that God does not exist!), the best that can happen is that all those who did so, will go to jail for breaking the law but INEC itself has said it before the election that OUR SERVES HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFFLINE (synonymous to a shutdown) because we cant transmit election result electronically, as it is forbidden by law.

Kenturkey048:
[b]me personally don't know what point inec is tryna prove
..our ward consisted 23 pooling units and we all transmitted result electronically when we got the the RAC,with the help of the RATECH guy posted with us ..we had to sleep over till the next morning which was Sunday just to get network by midnight ..

if you "transmit" election results electornically, it does not take a computer genius to know that if that Server is shut down, your "transmission" will not be DELIVERED and it is as good as "lost in transmission".[/b] grin grin grin

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Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by Staro: 4:56pm On Jul 08, 2019
Abi oo
Re: It’s wrong to say results of presidential Poll were not transmitted - INEC Tech by OyiboOyibo(m): 4:58pm On Jul 08, 2019
Kenturkey048:
me personally don't know what point inec is tryna prove ..our ward consisted 23 pooling units and we all transmitted result electronically when we got the the RAC,with the help of the RATECH guy posted with us ..we had to sleep over till the next morning which was Sunday just to get network by midnight ..


Some APC e-rats won't like your submission here because they trade on falsehoods just to make sure that their monthly N-Power stipends are intact.... Poverty mentality cows

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