₦airaland Forum

Lifestone:
Unfortunately you got it all twisted. It's not about population but about productivity. Switzerland population is far lesser than Nigeria with higher population. Hope you now get what I am saying.

somegirl1:
I read the silly comments about SE's IGR with amusement; Nigerians are on average too unintelligent to evaluate factors that have an impact on IGR or to evaluate anything at all. In the absence of data relating to political and economic factors, demographics etc for each region and assuming a uniform distribution of tax eligible jobs and businesses, doing the basic math based on population would reveal that SE generated the 3rd highest revenue per person after SS and SW or 2nd highest after SS if Lagos was excluded from the SW's computation.

NC
Population - 20,368,918,
IGR - 378.7b
Per person - 18,592.95

NE
Population - 18,984,299
IGR - 351b
Per person - 18,515.30

NW
Population - 35,915,467
IGR - 546.5
Per person - 15,216.29

SE
Population - 16,395,555
IGR - 340.1b
Per person - 20,743. 43

SS
Population - 20,320,869
IGR - 1102b
Per person - 54,229.86

SW
Population - 27,722,432
IGR - 877.8b
Per person - 31,663. 89

Population (excluding Lagos) - 18,608,827
IGR (excluding Lagos) - 376.6b
Per person - 20,237.71

Clearly the SE isn't the least productive region.

Adelaide2:
What type of productivity are you talking about? Are you suggesting that other zones are more productive than SE? That would be a big fat lie. IGR is directly linked to population. You cannot levy on one person two person's taxes - it's always one man one tax. Therefore, SE will always be lower in IGR, given its lower population. Hey don't forget that SE is not the parasite in chief in Nigeria. They receive the lowest monthly allocation from the federal government based on lowest population. In life you cannot eat your cake and have it. You cannot give SE lowest allocation based on population and expect higher IGR based on same population. Does it make any sense to you now?

The entire GDP of Switzerland ($678.89 billion) is greater than that of Nigeria ($375.77 billion); so don't even go there. Nigeria is how many times bigger than Switzerland in population?

NC
Population - 20,368,918,
IGR - 378.7b
Per person - 18,592.95



NE
Population - 18,984,299
IGR - 351b
Per person - 18,515.30

NW
Population - 35,915,467
IGR - 546.5
Per person - 15,216.29

SE
Population - 16,395,555
IGR - 340.1b
Per person - 20,743. 43

SS
Population - 20,320,869
IGR - 1102b
Per person - 54,229.86

SW
Population - 27,722,432
IGR - 877.8b
Per person - 31,663. 89

Population (excluding Lagos) - 18,608,827
IGR (excluding Lagos) - 376.6b
Per person - 20,237.71

Clearly the SE isn't the least productive region.

Adelaide2:
What type of productivity are you talking about? Are you suggesting that other zones are more productive than SE? That would be a big fat lie. IGR is directly linked to population. You cannot levy on one person two person's taxes - it's always one man one tax. Therefore, SE will always be lower in IGR, given its lower population. Hey don't forget that SE is not the parasite in chief in Nigeria. They receive the lowest monthly allocation from the federal government based on lowest population. In life you cannot eat your cake and have it. You cannot give SE lowest allocation based on population and expect higher IGR based on same population. Does it make any sense to you now?

The entire GDP of Switzerland ($678.89 billion) is greater than that of Nigeria ($375.77 billion); so don't even go there. Nigeria is how many times bigger than Switzerland in population?

somegirl1:
I read the silly comments about SE's IGR with amusement; Nigerians are on average too unintelligent to evaluate factors that have an impact on IGR or to evaluate anything at all. In the absence of data relating to political and economic factors, demographics etc for each region and assuming a uniform distribution of tax eligible jobs and businesses, doing the basic math based on population would reveal that SE generated the 3rd highest revenue per person after SS and SW or 2nd highest after SS if Lagos was excluded from the SW's computation.

NC
Population - 20,368,918,
IGR - 378.7b
Per person - 18,592.95

NE
Population - 18,984,299
IGR - 351b
Per person - 18,515.30

NW
Population - 35,915,467
IGR - 546.5
Per person - 15,216.29

SE
Population - 16,395,555
IGR - 340.1b
Per person - 20,743. 43

SS
Population - 20,320,869
IGR - 1102b
Per person - 54,229.86

SW
Population - 27,722,432
IGR - 877.8b
Per person - 31,663. 89

Population (excluding Lagos) - 18,608,827
IGR (excluding Lagos) - 376.6b
Per person - 20,237.71

Clearly the SE isn't the least productive region.

Adelaide2:
What type of productivity are you talking about? Are you suggesting that other zones are more productive than SE? That would be a big fat lie. IGR is directly linked to population. You cannot levy on one person two person's taxes - it's always one man one tax. Therefore, SE will always be lower in IGR, given its lower population. Hey don't forget that SE is not the parasite in chief in Nigeria. They receive the lowest monthly allocation from the federal government based on lowest population. In life you cannot eat your cake and have it. You cannot give SE lowest allocation based on population and expect higher IGR based on same population. Does it make any sense to you now?

The entire GDP of Switzerland ($678.89 billion) is greater than that of Nigeria ($375.77 billion); so don't even go there. Nigeria is how many times bigger than Switzerland in population?

kettykin:
Coscharis Alone Pays more than N450m as tax in Lagos which is counted as Lagos IGR , now if you pull about 10000 top Igbo business men who because of the lopsided federalism practiced in Nigeria have to put their business in Lagos then Igbos would be contributing more tahn N80B to the IGR of Lagos.

somegirl1:
I read the silly comments about SE's IGR with amusement; Nigerians are on average too unintelligent to evaluate factors that have an impact on IGR or to evaluate anything at all. In the absence of data relating to political and economic factors, demographics etc for each region and assuming a uniform distribution of tax eligible jobs and businesses, doing the basic math based on population would reveal that SE generated the 3rd highest revenue per person after SS and SW or 2nd highest after SS if Lagos was excluded from the SW's computation.

NC
Population - 20,368,918,
IGR - 378.7b
Per person - 18,592.95

NE
Population - 18,984,299
IGR - 351b
Per person - 18,515.30

NW
Population - 35,915,467
IGR - 546.5
Per person - 15,216.29

SE
Population - 16,395,555
IGR - 340.1b
Per person - 20,743. 43

SS
Population - 20,320,869
IGR - 1102b
Per person - 54,229.86

SW
Population - 27,722,432
IGR - 877.8b
Per person - 31,663. 89

Population (excluding Lagos) - 18,608,827
IGR (excluding Lagos) - 376.6b
Per person - 20,237.71

Clearly the SE isn't the least productive region.

totit:
Maybe "coscharis taxes" also find it way into Ogun state , and that's why Ogun state alone igr also beat the whole of SE?

Abegiii

Anyways, as for the rest of your figures up there , enjoy you am

kettykin:
Coscharis Alone Pays more than N450m as tax in Lagos which is counted as Lagos IGR , now if you pull about 10000 top Igbo business men who because of the lopsided federalism practiced in Nigeria have to put their business in Lagos then Igbos would be contributing more tahn N80B to the IGR of Lagos.

plaindealer:
Why always exclude Lago from the SW?

Is Lagos not part of the SW?

totit:
Doesn't the north as whole has more population than the whole of South? Come up with another excuse abeg.

bigpicture001:
Mumu...IGR is never development....

Southeast choose not to kill her people with too much exorbitant taxes, hence her people make reasonable profits from biz...

You should be applauding them instead, cut they are still fast developing their infrastructure..that us to expose cities like lagos who rival the FG in revenue generation yet borrows money like crazy...making her residence all cry over cost of living...nd yet infrastructure still suffers

somegirl1:

I didn't totally exclude Lagos in the SW, my initial calculation included Lagos. However, we must acknowledge the advantage Lagos has, as the commercial capital, over all other states.

somegirl1:


Follows that the North should have higher IGR than the South assuming all relevant factors were uniform.
This is not the case so their productivity is relatively low.

plaindealer:
Lagos as the commercial capital bah?

I remember when Fashola was the governor of Lagos state, Lagos state with all the commercial capital excuse you are talking about used to borrow nearly half of their budget from banks while states like Akwa Ibom budgets even larger budgets than Lagos/Fashola, but Akwa Ibom still achieved less than Lagos state across the board.

It is not always about money, it's always about leadership and talented people making the right decisions.

Commercial capital doesn't alter the fact that Lagos is part of the SW, ruled and governed by the people of the SW with their talent and ingenuity and the same talent and ingenuity that the same people of the SW are massively replicating in Ogun state.

Funny when Lagos was generating measly N500 million per month, it wasn't a commercial capital and Tinubu was corrupt and greedy, but his ingenuity and smarts turned N500 million per month into well over N34 billion per month. So, what was responsible for that? Brains, smarts, talent, and ingenuity or just commercial capital.

Lagos is excelling because of good leadership and sensible leaders, not commercial anything. You can have all the money and opportunities in the world and still achieve nothing.

Lagos is thriving and is the commercial capital that every Nigerian seek for survival is available today because their leaders in Lagos.

Lagos is part of the SW, commercial capital or not.

You people need to stop discounting and using Lagos as a rallying cry to justify and rationalize incompetence and poor performance in other places.

totit:
I thought the north is the region taken the large chunk of the country's development and all while SE are being marginalized ?

Lmao. Una delusion be small.

plaindealer:
Lagos as the commercial capital bah?

I remember when Fashola was the governor of Lagos state, Lagos state with all the commercial capital excuse you are talking about used to borrow nearly half of their budget from banks while states like Akwa Ibom budgets even larger budgets than Lagos/Fashola, but Akwa Ibom still achieved less than Lagos state across the board.

It is not always about money, it's always about leadership and talented people making the right decisions.

Commercial capital doesn't alter the fact that Lagos is part of the SW, ruled and governed by the people of the SW with their talent and ingenuity and the same talent and ingenuity that the same people of the SW are massively replicating in Ogun state.

Funny when Lagos was generating measly N500 million per month, it wasn't a commercial capital and Tinubu was corrupt and greedy, but his ingenuity and smarts turned N500 million per month into well over N34 billion per month. So, what was responsible for that? Brains, smarts, talent, and ingenuity or just commercial capital.

Lagos is excelling because of good leadership and sensible leaders, not commercial anything. You can have all the money and opportunities in the world and still achieve nothing.

Lagos is thriving and is the commercial capital that every Nigerian seek for survival is available today because their leaders in Lagos.

Lagos is part of the SW, commercial capital or not.

You people need to stop discounting and using Lagos as a rallying cry to justify and rationalize incompetence and poor performance in other places.

somegirl1:



Did you make a random unrelated comment or were you attempting to respond to my comment?

somegirl1:
Lagos is indisputably located in the SW. However, it would be silly to conveniently ignore the advantage Lagos has over all other states WRT revenue-generating agencies and infrastructure at the federal level.

totit:
Both

totit:
This is not about population ( I know not where you got your population figure thou) its about the igr and what each region generate.

By the way, if we are to focus more on population I should belief SE population is far and higher than SS. Ain't I right.

By the way, when we talk about igr in Nigeria and regional base forget numbers , it is all for the pride. Forget logic.

somegirl1:
Highly doubtful



Stats from here based on Census 2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nigerian_states_by_population
The wikipedia page references a document from population.gov.ng

The SE is actually the least populated region in Nigeria. I've seen many SW commenters on here claim that there are more Igbos outside of the SE than there are in the SE so it would follow that Igbos contribute more to the IGR of other regions than to that of the SE; that's besides the point however.
IGR comes from income,sales, taxes, fines etc. Workforce, employment opportunities, natural resources, industries contribute to these sources of revenue.
SE is pulling its weight despite being disadvantaged in all (arguably) of the indices above.

totit:
Lool

See face saving. Una never do well abeg.

Doesn't anambrala has more population than Ogun state.
And for the talking nonsense about about fed presence , are you also referring to Ogun state and others, except Lagos too?

Yeye dey smell

plaindealer:
You just have to laugh at their infantile and comedic excuses.

sarrki:
The total revenue received by the Lagos state government in 2018 was higher than what was received by the entire south-east region.

The south-east region consists of five states namely: Abia, Anambra, Ebonyi, Enugu and Imo.

Lagos generated total revenue of N501.2 billion while the entire south-east region generated N340.1 billion.

The state’s 2018 revenue was also higher than that of the northeast and north-central, which was N351.5 billion and N378.7 billion respectively.

This is contained in the Quarterly Review document of the Nigeria Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (NEITI).

The revenue of states was calculated as the sum of the internally generated revenue (IGR) and allocations from the federation accounts allocation committee (FAAC).



The total IGR generated by states in 2018 was N1.103 trillion while the total FAAC allocations were N2.849 trillion.

Lagos state had the highest total revenue of N501.2 billion while Osun had the lowest at N33.2 billion.

“This implies that the total revenue of Lagos State was 13.9% of the combined total revenue of all states. Also, if the states with the highest and lowest revenues are compared, the revenue of Lagos State was 15 times or 1,518% of the revenue of Osun State,” the report read.

“The total revenue of Lagos State (N501.2 billion) exceeded total revenue of each of three zones: North Central (N378.7 billion), North East (N351.5 billion), and South East (N340.1 billion).

“While the total revenue received by Lagos State is higher than the total revenue of each of these zones, the total revenue of the South-South is higher than the combined total revenue of all three zones. The total revenue received by Lagos State is greater than the combined total revenues received by nine states (N449.49 billion) – Osun, Ekiti, Zamfara, Ebonyi, Gombe, Taraba, Cross River, Nasarawa, and Adamawa.”



On a zonal basis, the south-south zone recorded the highest total revenue (N1.102 trillion), followed by the south-west with N877.8 billion.

The north-west zone came in third with N546.5 billion, north-central with N378.7 billion, north-east with N351.5 billion and south-east recorded the lowest with N340.1 billion.

https://www.thecable.ng/revealed-lagos-2018-revenue-higher-than-entire-south-east-region

somegirl1:
Ogun generating more revenue than the SE is highly doubtful given that the report you based your comparison on shows SW IGR to be 877.8 billion with Lagos generating 501.2 billion of that amount. Unless you are saying Ondo, Osun, Ekiti and Oyo states generated a combined total less than 35 billion, there's no way Ogun generated more than 340.1 billion which is the revenue allegedly generated by the SE in the post quoted below.

totit:
Wiki is your source? I give up.

Ma'am , you can't give what you don't have. If , the whole of SE couldn't raise some igr beyond what a state in SW (Ogun state precisely----which I belief have lowest popolulation of southwesterners when measure with the whole of SE) then the whole numbers and delusional maths is nothing but but a face-saving tactics for SE failure.

Una simply be parasite. Simple!!!

somegirl1:
You're just dancing about because you have no point.

totit:
No. It is not. If you want prove do your research or seek

totit:
No. It is not. If you want prove do your research or seek

somegirl1:
I used the same stats that got all of you excited, same one I quoted.
So why suddenly do I have to research further when the narrative doesn't suit you?