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Joseunlimited:
Legit lies

Don't mind them

Viralmula:
Go and sit down, if your oduduwa isn't falling from the sky he is coming down with rope like the undertaker, if not for sentiments u ppl will even claim he came from east in Igbo land since some of u are presently claiming Saudi Arabia, I do not argue with inconsistent ppl and I do not argue Edos greatness it speaks for itself , Edo does not need to shamelessly attach itself with other tribes to claim greatness.... So waka pass ozuor

silly girl, which edo greatness are you talking of? is it in prostitution?
you guys should just be grateful because in the system of things you're just inferior.
see minority feeling pompous

Herdsmenson:
there were no such thing as Yoruba before oduduwa came, they were slaves hunted by other dominant ethnic groups, Benin saved Yoruba

Yorubas aren't even united, Ekiti people hardly understand Oyo. Egun and even ijebu people aren't Yoruba. Oyo is the real Yoruba. British just join those tribes together to form Yoruba.

Oduduwa is from Benin and not Yoruba, how can great Benin go to Ile Ife(slave) to claim king??

Yomit71:
silly girl, which edo greatness are you talking of? is it in prostitution?
you guys should just be grateful because in the system of things you're just inferior.
see minority feeling pompous

Respect their opinion

Don't give them this attention

Herdsmenson:
Yorubas aren't even united, Ekiti people hardly understand Oyo. Egun and even ijebu people aren't Yoruba. Oyo is the real Yoruba. British just join those tribes together to form Yoruba.

Oduduwa is from Benin and not Yoruba, how can great Benin go to Ile Ife(slave) to claim king??

I tire oo my dear

Very inconsistent people

tchidi066:
Oni of ife
Olowu of Owu
Alaketu of ketu
Onipopo of Popo
Oramiyan of Oyo
Oba of Benin

I was forced to learn in at school that year

Olodo!! ! What's Oramiyan of Oyo? or Oba of Benin no dey there geraway

Herdsmenson:
Yorubas aren't even united, Ekiti people hardly understand Oyo. Egun and even ijebu people aren't Yoruba. Oyo is the real Yoruba. British just join those tribes together to form Yoruba.

Oduduwa is from Benin and not Yoruba, how can great Benin go to Ile Ife(slave) to claim king??

you just lack the principal thing(wisdom)
people like you lack sense but the funny thing is you don't acknowledge it, that's where the problem comes from

tchidi066:
Oni of ife
Olowu of Owu
Alaketu of ketu
Onipopo of Popo
Oramiyan of Oyo
Oba of Benin

I was forced to learn in at school that year

you really try even though you don’t get it right

Yomit71:
silly girl, which edo greatness are you talking of? is it in prostitution?
you guys should just be grateful because in the system of things you're just inferior.
see minority feeling pompous

prostitution abi? Even Oyo state is now the capital of prostitution and trafficking in Nigeria.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/oyo-overtakes-edo-tops-in-girls-trafficking-in-nigeria-immigration.html

Yoruba that are renowned for skull mining and ritual from Ogun state to osun, everyday skull mining.

You people are also known for cowardice, and slaves to Fulani(which is a fact). People that has over 40 million in population but are so scared of forming a country. Cowards.

The Fulani took kwara and kill your people but you cowards directed it to igbos, shameless majority tribe.

Tell me bad things Edo people did and you Yorubas has done 10x worse

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Mods please FP.
We need more of this on FP.

You get mouth!

Yomit71:
you just lack the principal thing(wisdom)
people like you lack sense but the funny thing is you don't acknowledge it, that's where the problem comes from

lol I know you people, if Ekiti, egun and Oyo people can be called Yoruba then I see no reason why Benin, urhobo, degema can't be grouped as one.

There's no unity between you people, that's why Yorubas can never formed their own country

must u show the world how stupid you are?? find a better job and stop disgracing ur ancestors on nl

StaffofOrayan:
You get mouth!

I sight u Baba.. Custodian of our culture.
Your monicker says it all

Teeisaac:
D one in LAUTECH logo

Wooow
Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

They sure thought you wrong!

tchidi066:
Oni of ife
Olowu of Owu
Alaketu of ketu
Onipopo of Popo
Oramiyan of Oyo
Oba of Benin

I was forced to learn in at school that year

Xisnin:
The first Oba of Benin is the son of Oranmiyan.
Let that sink in.
Benin was just a town before the arrival of Oranmiyan.
The Oba system borrowed from Ile-Ife helped in expanding Benin dominion.

The late Oba of Benin concocted the Benin prince fiction because of pride.

Hmmm
The Benin people will also give a different account about this.

Don't know which one is true tho.

Viralmula:
Wait oo lemme drop this here before you run with your story , oromiyan link to Edo is that oduduwa his alleged father was a run away Benin prince who was later requested by Benin chiefs when his father ogiso owodo died, but oduduwa already an old man sent his youngest boy oromiyan to replace him , and the oromiyan barely spent a year or two in Edo before running away back to his ppl because of cultural shock , but he already fathered a child by an Edo nobles daughter so he was free to leave!! And mind you Benin empire existed for centurues before this oromiyan episode!!

Madam, I dont understand why you take am personal, first understand the word Myth. You are telling the story as if you were dere. I guess Ogiso just appear without coming from somewhere. I dont care if Yoruba history and that of Edos might have crossed but with all sincerity in my heart I dont want Edo to be part if Yoruba. I want distinctive between Yoruba and Benin.

Herdsmenson:
lol I know you people, if Ekiti, egun and Oyo people can be called Yoruba then I see no reason why Benin, urhobo, degema can't be grouped as one.

There's no unity between you people, that's why Yorubas can never formed their own country

has Yoruba stopped you from from grouping yourself with others as one Yoruba is a Nation with many tribes, and we are one thank you.

Herdsmenson:
prostitution abi? Even Oyo state is now the capital of prostitution and trafficking in Nigeria.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/oyo-overtakes-edo-tops-in-girls-trafficking-in-nigeria-immigration.html

Yoruba that are renowned for skull mining and ritual from Ogun state to osun, everyday skull mining.

You people are also known for cowardice, and slaves to Fulani(which is a fact). People that has over 40 million in population but are so scared of forming a country. Cowards.

The Fulani took kwara and kill your people but you cowards directed it to igbos, shameless majority tribe.

Tell me bad things Edo people did and you Yorubas has done 10x worse

Hanty! YOUR STUPIDITY HAS BEEN FULLY ACKNOWLEDGED...Now please go and pound yam so that we can have peace!

[quote author=jneutron4000 post=8I want distinctive between Yoruba and Benin.[/quote]Something I want , advice you ppl to tell their lies without Putting Edo in it

Herdsmenson:
prostitution abi? Even Oyo state is now the capital of prostitution and trafficking in Nigeria.

https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/oyo-overtakes-edo-tops-in-girls-trafficking-in-nigeria-immigration.html

Yoruba that are renowned for skull mining and ritual from Ogun state to osun, everyday skull mining.

You people are also known for cowardice, and slaves to Fulani(which is a fact). People that has over 40 million in population but are so scared of forming a country. Cowards.

The Fulani took kwara and kill your people but you cowards directed it to igbos, shameless majority tribe.

Tell me bad things Edo people did and you Yorubas has done 10x worse

there are bad eggs in every ethnic groups and Nations across the world, as we speak there are Edo girls prostituting all across Europe and there are good ones as well. The issue of Kwara you mentioned shows you no nothing about the history. The current Emire of Ilorin is of Yoruba descendant though he styled himself as emir just as how the Oluwo of owo wanted to do. Yorubas fought with each others for about 16 years because of the Oyo oppression, this led to Afonja to invites external force ie Alimi to help him defeat the Oyo, the Fulanis and Afonja and his guards tried their best but the Oyo war lords killed lots of them, Alimi seeing he had lost lots of his brethren, rebelled against Afonja and overthrown it, anyway that an old story, Kwara state has about 16 local governments, 12 belongs to the Yorubas while 4 belongs to Fulanis and others. For me, I feel the fulanis should be allowed to retain the 4 local government has there fore father paid the ultimate price with their lives to defend it against the mighty force of Oyo. Blacks can vote and be voted for in UK because their ancestors was colonised and blacks fought to defend England against the germans force.

Viralmula:
Wait oo lemme drop this here before you run with your story , oromiyan link to Edo is that oduduwa his alleged father was a run away Benin prince who was later requested by Benin chiefs when his father ogiso owodo died, but oduduwa already an old man sent his youngest boy oromiyan to replace him , and the oromiyan barely spent a year or two in Edo before running away back to his ppl because of cultural shock , but he already fathered a child by an Edo nobles daughter so he was free to leave!! And mind you Benin empire existed for centurues before this oromiyan episode!!

Stop writing nonsense here, Oduduwa is from Mecca

Your Oba of Benin is a descendant of Orominyan

Orominyan brought war to Benin around 12th century and conquered Benin

The story you propagate here is fake story written by Oba Erediawa for supremacy

[quote author=Viralmula post=80356572][/quote]You call it lies, but also in your version of the Myth you claim Oduduwa was a run away price that was made king in ife. That buttress the point I made that since, no one was alive then to give the real account, let everyone have a distinctive Identity and forget that different stories state that pass crossed.

Herdsmenson:
Yorubas aren't even united, Ekiti people hardly understand Oyo. Egun and even ijebu people aren't Yoruba. Oyo is the real Yoruba. British just join those tribes together to form Yoruba.

Oduduwa is from Benin and not Yoruba, how can great Benin go to Ile Ife(slave) to claim king??

They have different dialects..Ekiti, speaks a Yoruba dialect, Egun speak a different Yoruba dialect. They all use Yoruba words with different pronunciations...

U no go school?

[quote author=Viralmula post=80356572][/quote]author=jneutron4000 post=80356833]You call it lies, but also in your version of the Myth you claim Oduduwa was a run away price that was made king in ife. That buttress the point I made that since, no one was alive then to give the real account, let everyone have a distinctive Identity and forget that different stories state that pass crossed.

Herdsmenson:
Yorubas aren't even united, Ekiti people hardly understand Oyo. Egun and even ijebu people aren't Yoruba. Oyo is the real Yoruba. British just join those tribes together to form Yoruba.

Oduduwa is from Benin and not Yoruba, how can great Benin go to Ile Ife(slave) to claim king??

Prior to the dynasty known as the Oba Dynasty of Benin Kingdom which was founded by Oranmiyan and his son Eweka, the Edo people had what is known as the Ogiso Dynasty of Igodomigodo Land in which the rulers obviously were called Ogisos or Sky-Kings (from the Edo words: Ogie meaning King and Iso meaning Sky).


The Ogiso Dynasty of Igodomigodo Land produced many Ogisos or Sky-kings with the last of them being an Ogiso whose name is Owodo. The Edos obviously abandoned the Ogiso Dynasty at the time of Ogiso Owodo. The reason was simple, the Dynasty experienced a natural failure and hence collapse during his reign.


The following is some of the details of the account as contained in diverse authoritative historical sources on Benin kingdom:

The last Ogiso (or Sky-King) whose name is Owodo (i.e. Ogiso Owodo ) was banished from the land because his rule witnessed excessive mis-administration, failure, cruelty, and anxiety. However, Evin-an who succeeded him as an administrator during the period of interregnum sought to perpetuate his own lineage by appointing his own son, Ogiamwen, as his successor (contrary to a prior decision by the elders and notables). The Edo elders and notables, however, resisted them and reacted against them by despatching an embassy to THEIR OLUKUMI KINDREDS AT UHE (i.e. IFE) asking that a ruler be sent to Igodomigodo to rule them instead.


[Refer to: Roger Blench and Matthew Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations, 2003, p. 313. see also: J. U. Egharevba: A Short History of Benin, 1953 (2d ed.: Benin City) cited in G. A. Akinola, "The Origin of The Eweka Dynasty of Benin: A Study In the Use and Abuse Of Oral Traditions", Journal of the Historical Society of Nigeria, Vol. 8, No. 3 (December 1976), pp. 22 - 23. among several other authoritative sources.]


The above citation shows clearly that there has always been a relationship of common ancestry between the Edos and the Yorubas even before Oranmiyan went to Igodomigodo. This fact is attested to in both the mythology/oral traditions of the Ife people and the Edo people. And these oral traditions are (to some extent) corroborated and augmented by more solid historical sources and documentations.



The Yorubas' mythology of origin states that every culture and civilization sprang from Ile-Ife to other places (including the Edos, the Ijaws, the Igbos, as well as every ancient culture of the world).

Now, the foregoing mythology of origin of the Yorubas sounds very grandiose, as though every culture will obviously say the same thing about itself. However, an examination of the mythology of origin of the Edos shows that it says almost precisely and exactly the same thing as the Yorubas'.

In other words, the mythology of origin of the Edos appears to agree that the Edos, the Ijaws, the Igbos, etc. have their origin in Ile-Ife as kindred with the Ife people.


A mythology of origin of the Edos found in S. B Omoreige's "Edo History" --- an unpublished typescript publicized c. 1970 --- shows with a flow chart that:

Oghene (God) created Iso (Sky), Ason (Night), and Avan (Day), and that from Iso(Sky) descended: Ame (Water) and Oto (Earth).

The flow chart continues to show that:

Uzon (i.e. the Ijaw people) descended from Ame (Water), and that from Oto (Earth) descended: Igbon (the Igbo people), Idu (the Edo people), and Olukumi (the Ile-Ife people).


This oral tradition clearly shows the common ancestry of the Igbos, the Edos, and the Yorubas according to the mythology of origin of the Edos themselves.

[Refer to: Roger Blench and Matthew Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations, 2003, p. 312. ]



Another mythology of origin of the Edos (known as "Iso Norho" or the myth of the pouring sky) adds more details to the foregoing, and thus puts it more closely to that of the Ifes:


This version adds that:

Uhe (Ile-Ife) was (originally) occupied by Olukumi (Yoruba), Idu (Edo), Igbon (Igbo), and Izon (Ijaw). It stated that Oto (Earth) had committed incest and as a result Iso (Sky) issued Ame (Flood) as punishment for the act. Oghene (God) is said to have come to the rescue because he "did not want the children to suffer undue hardship."

Oghene (God) is then said to have "By means of a chain ... poured sand on the flood water to form dry land for their habitation." After Idu's death, his children (Akka, Efa, and Emehi) are all said to have "to migrate from Uhe to the present site of Benin City --- then called Ubini --- where they displaced a group of original settlers Ivbirinwineko ("dwarfs from the spirit world" )."

[Refer to: Roger Blench and Matthew Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I: Theoretical and Methodological Orientations, 2003, pp. 312 - 313. see also: Michael Crowder: The Story of Nigeria, pp 63. ]


We, therefore, see very clearly from the foregoing mythology of origin of the Edos that not only do the Edos share common ancestry (i.e. Oto ) with the Yorubas, they both originally inhabited Ile-Ife alongside the Igbos and the Ijaws before they (i.e. the Edos), the Igbos, and the Ijaws later obviously resettled. --- This is according to the mythology of origin of the Edos themselves.



The foregoing mythology of origin of the Edos and the Yorubas (which says essentially the same thing) is further corroborated and augmented by more solid historical documentation in the works of experts like Amaury Talbot, J. U. Egharevba, Dmitri M. Bondarenko among others.

Although there is some inconsequent slight discrepancy in details from one expert to the other (as well as some varying degree of details), their conclusions, however, are in the same direction.


Amaury Talbot, who is the first-ever 19th-century expert on the Ife-Benin relationship, notes that:


" According to tradition the first king of the country was Igudu ... A Yoruba Chief, named Erhe, stated to be the Awgenni of Ufe ("in Yoruba Awni of Ife" ), arrived with a small following, but did not gain much power. His son Ogiso also made little headway and later returned to Ife ... c. 1300 ."

[Refer to: P. Amaury Talbot: The Peoples of Southern Nigeria, 1926 (London), Vol. I, pp. 153. ]



In a similar vein, Chief J. U. Egharevba (who is the first and earliest indigenous compiler of a history of Benin kingdom in 1933) also writes about the Ogiso as being originally from Uhe (Ife). He notes:


" Many, many years ago, Odua ["Oduduwa"] of Uhe ["Ile-Ife"] the father and progenitor of the Yoruba kings sent his eldest son Obagodo --- who took the title of Ogiso --- with a large retinue all the way from Uhe to found a Kingdom in this part of the world."

[Refer to: J. U. Egharevba: A Short History of Benin,1936 (1st ed.: Lagos), pp. 7. ]



Likewise, Dmitri M. Bondarenko of the Institute for African Studies in the Russian Academy of Sciences notes in a more emphatic form that the first three Ogisos of Igodomigodo were emissaries, from the Ooni of Ife, on a mission to establish a monarchy in Igodomigodo.

The following are the precise words of Dmitri M. Bondarenko in the paper entitled The Benin Kingdom (13th – 19th Centuries) as a Megacommunity:


"The third Ogiso became the last in their Yoruba, Ife line. He returned to Ife but by that time the very institution of the supreme supra-chiefdom ruler had already been established firmly enough in Benin, disregarding its outside origin and correspondence to the level of sociopolitical organization, not achieved by the Bini yet ."



All these foregoing expert documentation and scholarly attestations from the leading experts in the world in the area of "Ife-Bini Relationship" (as well as the oral tradition/mythology of origin of the Edos themselves) go to establish beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt that there has always been some connection of blood between the Edos and the Ifès, which goes way beyond Oranmiyan and the Eweka dynasty, while extending all the way to the very foundations of the Ogiso dynasty.


The Edos and the Ifès are, therefore, on the basis of authoritative academic scholarship (rather than from an amateurish emotional standpoint), NOT unrelated as has been demonstrated that the Ogisos themselves (at least the first couple of them) were originally from Uhe (Ile-Ife).

Atigba:
Stop writing nonsense here, Oduduwa is from Mecca

Your Oba of Benin is a descendant of Orominyan

Orominyan brought war to Benin around 12th century and conquered Benin

The story you propagate here is fake story written by Oba Erediawa for supremacy

Oduduwa was not from Mecca and not from Benin

Oduduwa was from Eastern part of Ile Ife even Ulugbo of Ugbo verified it during his disagreement with Ooni of Ife

But let everyone respect each other opinion anyway

Don't give them any attention

Xisnin:
The first Oba of Benin is the son of Oranmiyan.
Let that sink in.
Benin was just a town before the arrival of Oranmiyan.
The Oba system borrowed from Ile-Ife helped in expanding Benin dominion.

The late Oba of Benin concocted the Benin prince fiction because of pride.

You are very wrong, while I agreed with you that Orominyan is from Ife and has no link with our land.

The assertions that benin is a small town is a false.
The land of Igodomigodo was a kingdom with cluster clans.
Orominyan brought war to our land around 12 century and was able to conquered part of our land.

MoneyMan5:
Oduduwa was not from Mecca and not from Benin

Oduduwa was from Eastern part of Ile Ife even Ulugbo of Ugbo verified it during his disagreement with Ooni of Ife

But let everyone respect each other opinion anyway

Don't give them any attention

OluGbo said they are the original owner of Ile-Ife. That...Oduduwa met his people in Ile-Ife...

This is somehow true because Oduduwa himself accounted that he met some people in Ile-Ife...