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| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 2:44pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
proxillin:Yes, the only kingdom he did not conquered is the Ugbo which is the reason I said earlier he is the oboriginal king in yoruba land. For your information I am a direct descendant of Ogiso. Forget about those binis that are arguing about oduduwa most dont know their history. Oba Eradiawa destroyed our history in the 80s for supremacy reason. But we know our history and how orominyan came into our land |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 2:50pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
TAO11:Go and ask any Ilaje elder where his ancestors came from and come back to me. I wont discuss lagos with you, except you are ignorant you should be aware we once run that city. Eko is our name camp. We used it to camp slaves and sell to the white men. As for Ekiti. Ado Ekiti mean Edo children in Ekiti Prince Ado is the name of the first Oba of benin (Eweka). The name Orominyan gave him. Edo mean Ado. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by jneutron4000: 2:52pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:this shows how sick and unlearned you are, in as much I don't want Yoruba to have anything to do with Edos, you have to know that even some of the gods some of you edos worship, abode in Osun state example Ogun is Yoruba deity. Also I am a full blooded Awori man and I am a proud Yoruba. If you don't know, the Yoruba race cut across all western part of Nigeria, part of Kwara, Kogi also down to Benin republic, Togo and descendant taken across the Caribbean during slaves trade era. Igodomigodo ko dodomiredo ni. We Yorubas are one and United, Edos can go and form whatever they want. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Amujale(m): 2:57pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
The staff/Obelix of Oranmiyan is of great historical significance. These type of rare and iconic artefacts represent a timescale in African history. Oranmiyan's Obelix is dated by African academics to have been in existence prior to the first Millenium. Whether you believe it to be CE or BCE, it proves that Africans have beeen in existence before Asians or Europeans. In a way, similar to place as 'Gobekli Tepe', 'Stonehenge', the 'Giza pyramid complex' the Obelix was left as a way for us to answer the questions of age, dates and times. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:01pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
jneutron4000:Will you shut up there, so you are even Awori and you dont know your history. You are a disgrace to your ancestors What is yoruba, there nothing called yoruba I dont mean to use derogatory words. The word yoruba came into being around 200 years ago. It is a word the Fulanis used to refered to people living in Oyo empire. The Aworis are IDU children who ran away from Igodomigodo many centuries ago. Our children formed Etiosa local government in lagos state. Tell me the meaning of Etiosa in yoruba you kid |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by osax4pal: 3:02pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
I remember back then in school, my social studies teacher tells us Oduduwa came down from the sky with rope, cock, maize and earth. When he got to earth he poured the sand, the cock use it legs to scatter it across the earth, where the sand get to that is where u find land, after the cock has done it's job he planted maize which represents the vegetation. What a funny story the Yoruba are holding onto. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:03pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
jneutron4000:Lastly, even the people you are falsely claiming in Togo, benin republic and Ghana majority of them are still from Igodomigodo. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Amujale(m): 3:07pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
osax4pal:Oduduwa is a Yoruba emissary that hailed from eastern parts of Ife. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by jneutron4000: 3:11pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:hahaha ok, we have heard mouth pieces of Igodomigodo. Yoruba speak one language which is Yoruba, if I say ki ti gbe as an Awori man, an Ijebu man can reply ko gbe re wa fu mi. Also if a Yoruba man from any part of Nigeria travel to let say Togo, Benin republic even as far as Cuba or Brazil and say Eri wo, the reply will be the say as Ya or Aya gbo aya tò. Angelique kidjo songs wombo Lombo, Agolo etc is understood by Every Yoruba on Earth because WE ARE YORUBA. ![]() Lastly mrs Igodomigodo mouth piece, if Oduduwa republic eventually comes, I will personally write to the Oduduwa republic government to build a wall to show a physical border between Yoruba and Benin. I dont mind leaving that of Cotonue open ![]() |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by TAO11(f): 3:15pm On Jul 17, 2019*. Modified: 12:18am On Jul 18, 2019 |
Atigba:C'mon! Did you really mean that your best evidence to defend your own claim is a "go and ask" directive?? Wow! That's very low, you should do better than that. There is a principle in argumentation and Law known as Onus Probandi and it basically says that for your claim to be accepted (or at least taken seriously) it is you yourself who must prove yourself right (i.e. provide your own evidence proof or reason) rather than shift the burden to someone else who demands that you substantiate your own claim. I hope you get my point! Regarding your funny and laughable etymology of Ado Ekiti, I'm sorry to call you out that Ado Ekiti does not mean Edo children in Ekiti.Lol "Ado" means "We settled" and "Ekiti" signify the "Hilly region". And for your information, although the word "Edo" sounds like "Ado" they are completely and entirely different. In fact, "Edo" is a relatively recent coinage in comparison to the more ancient Bini word from which it evolved viz. "Idu". And also, Eweka never had any name as Ado. I challenge you to provide evidence for this as well. In summary: You made an initial claim, and when asked for evidence, all you did was the following: (1) Shift the burden instead of face the burden. (2) Repeat the claims (3) And make more claims. You simply I, however, volunteer to accept your shifted burden and school you and spoon feed you on all the claims you've made above, only on the condition that you acknowledge explicitly here that you've failed woefully so far to substantiate any of your many claims with evidence, proof or reason. Cheers! |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Amujale(m): 3:19pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:You are totally and utterly wrong. These are our brothers and sisters on the continent that Oranmiyan himself continually served as Emperor whilst in his Majestic office. Historical records affirms that administrative relations persists prior to the evils of European intervention. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:22pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Amujale:Majority are not your children, I have interact with them personally especially the once in Togo. I can hear their language they can hear me too if I speak. Even the Togo president visited Benin city many years ago. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:25pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
TAO11:Which tribe are you from |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by jafol(m): 3:27pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:Atigba they swear for you? Na by force yorubas r not ur mates, stop living in past glories what has edo or Benin done for Nigeria today, absolutely zero. This is how karma works, you edo betrayed yorubas by selling slaves to white men. Then God use the same white men to destroy your evil kingdom and gave the slaves you forced out of their homes to white men your so called land and put them above you since then Benin n edo have been jealous and hateful just like the pigs on the east side. Funny enough when your enemies know you r above them, they look for fake histories to make themselves feel superior. YORUBAS CARRY GO JOR NOTHING DO YOU. ALL YOUR EXTERNAL ENEMIES SHALL DIE BY FIRE |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:27pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
jneutron4000:Your statement here shows your ignoranc, the Awori people have their language before they later started speaking yoruba. The same with other tribes you listed above |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by TAO11(f): 3:29pm On Jul 17, 2019*. Modified: 12:28pm On Jun 03, 2021 |
Atigba:What is wrong with you with your obsession with everything you perceive as good about the Yorubas? Awori is Edo?? ![]() I haven't had such good laugh in a long time?? Please what is the etymology of the word "Awori" in your Edo language, since Aworis are now Binis?? ![]() Please answer the Awori salutation below and tell me the meaning: "Awori kitigbe?!" ![]() In case you like to know, my paternal line is Awori. Our ancestors settled in Ibeshe-Ikorodu (one of their many Awori smaller settlements) when the Aworis first arrived "Lagos" from Ife. They are the children of Olofin-Ogunfunminire. My grandmother lives in Ibeshe till date. Trying to claim Awori for your people is only to magnify and make public your inferiority and insecurity. That's very very very very low of you. I think you shouldn't be insulted actually, you should be pitied instead. May God have mercy on you! |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:29pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
jafol:I can see where your anger is coming from, that we once sold you guys as slave. But forget the past, we are now in the future |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Mraphel: 3:30pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Viralmula:How did you know oranmiyan spent just one or two years in Benin? We're u there? Oduduwa was not the person that fathered ORANMIYAN but you people will just not hear word. ORANMIYAN was d great grand children of Oduduwa. He was d first to start d Benin empire. He named that town Ile ibinu which later know as Benin |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:31pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
TAO11:Where did Awori people migrated from? |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by MoneyMan5: 3:35pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:You are wrong Where did the people living in Oyo originated from? Yoruba is just a general name for every tribes that Originated from Ile ife in Osun State And Eti Osa means River Bank in Yoruba Yoruba also means Deceit in Hausa not Fulani
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| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:38pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
MoneyMan5:Stop spreading lies here, I could have type here how Yoruba came into being. The last time i tried it, I was banned by nairaland mod. For Etiosa I won't comment because you are a bloody liar. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:40pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
jafol: calm downPeople living now weren't born then, I did not sell any slave |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by TAO11(f): 3:41pm On Jul 17, 2019*. Modified: 2:12am On Jul 18, 2019 |
Atigba:The ancestors of my paternal grandmother (the Aworis) migrated from Ile-Ife. They are the children of Olofin Ogunfunminire. Although I should also have declined answering your question because you failed to answer any of my questions and challenges in my comment which you quoted. But I obviously let that slide. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by MoneyMan5: 3:42pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:You know nothing about Yoruba History How could you know the History more than the people? You know nothing about Yoruba but you actually think you know everything about Yoruba |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by TAO11(f): 3:44pm On Jul 17, 2019*. Modified: 2:11am On Jul 18, 2019 |
Atigba:I am obviously Yoruba. Why are you asking all these questions (which although I have been answering consistently) without you answering any of mine?? Are my questions too difficult?? ![]() |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:44pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
MoneyMan5:I know Yoruba history more than you |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by isaacsegun(m): 3:49pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:I can now confirm you are sick. |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:51pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
TAO11:What am about to tell you now, go and confirm from the Oba of lagos palace. Some of our Idu/benin children who left with Orominyan to Ife, overtime they were highly discriminated as am told went to Lagos from Ife. They are presently the Awori people |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by MoneyMan5: 3:51pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:You know nothing but you actually think you know everything You sound stupid to many Yoruba that read your comments For example you said Yoruba have different Languages but dump it for Oyo Language ( that's the stupidest statement I have ever read In a while) Yoruba don't have different Languages but dialects Since you claim you know more than the people, I will leave you to keep wallowing in your foolishness |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by Atigba: 3:52pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
TAO11:Which particular question did you ask let me attend to it |
| Re: The Significance Of Oranmiyan Staff And Ife Immovable Heritage Resource. by jafol(m): 3:53pm On Jul 17, 2019 |
Atigba:Ode you r products of people living then hence ur hate |
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