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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:40pm On Jul 18, 2019*. Modified: 4:08pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Off-Topic The F-35 Turkey would never see. Turkish Air Force F-35A, now ex. Was is it a good decision for Turkey to have gone for the S-400 over the F-35? Turkey has the second largest army in NATO. Turkey also spends above the mandatory 2% of GDP on defence. It actually spends over, while the likes of Germany spends under 2%. Turkey had pledged to buy 110 F-35A's. Turkey also makes parts for the F-35 program. This manufacturing would now be moved back to the US. Russia is now offering Turkey the SU-35. 3 Likes
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 3:50pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Henry240:yeah I saw this on the news looks like the tsaigumi uav 1 Like |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Toju200:Exactly.  I think this is what the armed Tsaigumi would look like. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 3:59pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Henry240:so turkey grounded their F35 or it's still in service...  |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 4:01pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Henry240:hope so.....pls one question is NAF actually engage in the DEMFAS N-ICON drone program.... Cos I really want that project to come out successful it will be a game changer in our defense industry..... |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:02pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Second algerian mine countermeasures vessel El-Kasseh class (based on Katanpaa class) ready for delivry . Pic today in italy 1 Like
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:05pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Toju200:US will not sell to them any longer. They would also not deliver the 4 units already made. Turkish pilots would be sent home from training. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:06pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Toju200:No report to suggest NAF are working with DEMFAS. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MiddleDimension: 4:08pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Henry240:the same turkey that shot down SU24 pilots. but why is Russia doing deals with them? 2 Likes |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 4:10pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Henry240:you know I asked just to be sure cos I was going through some past post and I saw the info about the N-ICON drone saying NAF will take care of the Arming of the drone while a Chinese company will handle the GCS 1 Like |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 4:10pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
When the geopolitical coordinates changed after the cold war, Turkey intended to become regional superpower in the middle east. To archive that the ultranationalisic Erdogan government wants to become more independent from NATO. Turkey felt very much treated like a 2nd class NATO member when US denied to sell the Patriot PAC3 several times in the last decade. This changed when they showed interest in the S400. And at the same time they joined the F35 programm, but i think it is also understandable that the US dont want to share data that could be used to diminish the F35 effectiveness. They made their choice, but i would always prefer offensive over defensive weapons, if you have a choice. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 4:12pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Henry240:When the geopolitical coordinates changed after the cold war, Turkey intended to become regional superpower in the middle east. To archive that the ultranationalisic Erdogan government wants to become more independent from NATO. Officially Turkey felt treated like a 2nd class NATO member when US denied to sell the Patriot PAC3 several times in the last decade. This changed when they showed interest in the S400. And at the same time they joined the F35 programm, but i think it is also understandable that the US dont want to share data that could be used to diminish the F35 effectiveness. They made their choice, but i would always prefer offensive over defensive weapons, if you have a choice. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 4:12pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
MiddleDimension:I heard that incident was a mistake and they have settled their difference.... Russia was even the cos why would they not respond to their radio message and warning 1 Like |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:13pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Koni II , ocea small patroller , algiers 1 Like
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:15pm On Jul 18, 2019*. Modified: 4:48pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Alg Paratrooper at army games russia 3 Likes
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 4:42pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Henry240:\ TURKEY is the biggest loser in this it takes years and $M to train a pilot to be able to fly a plane like the F35 Years of R& D and Manufacture and infrastructure set up. now ALL THAT IS GONE Russia will sell the SU35 They will not set up shop in TURKEY PUTIN ain't that stupid. Pilots will now have to be retrained on the SU35 |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 6:23pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Off Topic: Russian Airforce Su30LL low fly less the a meter to the ground 6 Likes
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 6:47pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
jteku:What a crazy pilot & incredible bird 1 Like |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 6:51pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
jteku:it's so majestic and flies like a prince & 1 Like |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Daverytimes(m): 7:07pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Henry240:Would be a big loss to both the US and Turkey (the plane will definitely get more expensive), but frankly having proper A2/AD is more important today than having stealth fighters. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by saengine: 7:38pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
SA troops deployed in troubled parts of Cape Town, facing an explosion in gang related violence. 3 Likes
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:49pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
saengine: 1 Like
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:56pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
MiddleDimension:Russia retaliated heavily with economic sanctions on Turkey, also bombed Turkmen to smithereens at that time. Russia stands to gain a lot from the sale. Turkey has the second largest military in NATO, Turkey also has VETO power in NATO. Russia can also spy on NATO with this. 1 Like |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:00pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
SuperSixSeven:Just a bit of correction, Turkey has always been a part of the F-35 programme. They've invested 1.3 billion dollars in the programme. I also think ditching the F-35 for the S-400 is a poor decision. Turkey stands to lose 12 billion dollars in F-35 sales. 2 Likes |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Daverytimes:I don't think the US would lose. For one I expect Poland would purchase more F-35s, maybe 30 more. Finland would most likely purchase the F-35 to replace their legacy F/A-18s. Switzerland fighter tender, the F-35 would win that. The US Air Force would most likely order more to cover up any potential losses from Turkey. The absolute biggest loser is Turkey. They've been kicked out off the F-35 programme along with 12 billion dollars in potential business. They have now put their ATAK Helicopter programme at high risk. The engines come from the US, nobody would want to buy an Helicopter which is sanctions prone. The engine for their Tank, I believe that's also American. The programme is now at risk. Potential military relations with the US, by extension NATO would now be very specific. Frankly, for a nation like Turkey, the F-35 should be a far more important asset than the S-400. It's not worth the risk. They can go for the SU-35 or the SU-57 now. |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 8:19pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Good evening house I saw a post recently on proforce Nigeria Instagram page it was posted late last year around December 18 or so... It says the NAF and proforce signed MoU for collaboration in production of attack helicopters and drones....there were photos of the signing but I couldn't upload it |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:25pm On Jul 18, 2019*. Modified: 10:28pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
SuperSixSeven:Regional superpower lol My friend he wants to establish a Islamic caliphate stretching from Europe to Africa and he himself the Sultan S400 sale was never a option for turkey , it was a tribute demanded by Putin in leau of the shooting of their aircraft etc and importantly cessation of hostilities which was impeding turkish ops in the region. The failed coup was the last nail in the coffin. 1 Like |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:26pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Toju200:Good night uncle toju |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 9:28pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
nemesis8u:lol � � na still evening na.... Ok good night |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:29pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
jteku:Doing this stunt is good for airshows only Can't undertake terrain hugging low altitude missions in real life 1 Like |
| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:40pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Rwanda 2 Likes
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| Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:02pm On Jul 18, 2019 |
Toju200: If Putin was reading what u wrote he would be like........ 4 Likes
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