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Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by Nobody: 6:36pm On Jul 18, 2019
Having gone through the comments of AgentOfAllah, I was awed by his lack of profundity or his ingenuity to conceal it. We are saying that cattle rearing is a private business and in modern world, nomadic style is no longer possible and capable of instigating violence. He is talking of insincere government policy. Which policy? Is there any free land anywhere? Can he give his father's land to me to rear my animals for free? The fulanis should buy land for their business and stop provoking the peaceful and patient people of Nigeria who are saying the madness should stop. Talking of evidence against fulanis, can you mention one town in the north where fulanis live that is peaceful? Why are Hausas like slaves in their own land? In all honesty, tell us how many top emirs are of Hausa extraction? Can you give the statistics of Hausas in idp camps and fulanis in idp camps? Have you heard fulanis are in idp camp? Again, why is Boko haram not abducting fulanis who are even nearer to them in the bush? Please, provide believable answers and stop saying buhari is fasting or praying for those his brothers killed. What sense are you making?

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Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by rosebowl01(m): 8:14pm On Jul 18, 2019
AgentOfAllah:


Who are these "ones" you're referring to?

I put "you[i][/i]" and "ones" in the same sentence. Go figure.

By the way, this is a discussion, not a question and answer session.
Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by MetaPhysical: 8:44pm On Jul 18, 2019
AgentOfAllah:


Administration of criminal justice is important, but not quite as important as addressing the underlying social imbalances at the root of these conflicts. In Nigeria, we've been throwing armed robbers, kidnappers, yahoo boys and girls, and even violent ethnic agitators in jail since time immemorial, but has this done anything to address the occurrences of such social vices? No. If anything, criminality has drastically increased across the country. What does this tell you about the effectiveness of resorting to criminal justice administration as the sole remedy for social vices? There is an underlying reason we have an increasing number of people resorting to violent means like armed robbery, kidnapping and armed conflicts in pursuit of their goals, and that reason is desperation. Our society isn't doing enough to provide legitimate means for the plurality of us to freely pursue our goals. As such, those on the margins of society who have got nothing to lose, resort to violence as a means to bring their marginalisations to the fore, whether by able-bodied youth resorting to armed robbery, or jobless youths resorting to cattle rustling, or herdsmen resorting to the use of violence on farmers. It is this social inequity that should be addressed before looking to the criminal justice system for help.

That's why I am calling for deescalation. So that we can figure out what everyone wants and needs on the negotiating table, then work out a plan that works for everyone, and where everyone benefits from. If after this, anybody resorts to violence, criminal justice can then be used as a tool to manage the insignificant minority to whom violence is an end unto itself.

The terrorism in North is real.
The terrorism in South is artificial,

What we see in South is a problem that spilled over from North.

Why did you not use this approach to keep this bullshytte terrorism up there? Why are you now coming here trying to form intelligent analyst?

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Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by AgentOfAllah: 9:10pm On Jul 18, 2019
Mmuoojukwu:
Having gone through the comments of AgentOfAllah, I was awed by his lack of profundity or his ingenuity to conceal it. We are saying that cattle rearing is a private business and in modern world, nomadic style is no longer possible and capable of instigating violence. He is talking of insincere government policy. Which policy? Is there any free land anywhere? Can he give his father's land to me to rear my animals for free? The fulanis should buy land for their business and stop provoking the peaceful and patient people of Nigeria who are saying the madness should stop. Talking of evidence against fulanis, can you mention one town in the north where fulanis live that is peaceful? Why are Hausas like slaves in their own land? In all honesty, tell us how many top emirs are of Hausa extraction? Can you give the statistics of Hausas in idp camps and fulanis in idp camps? Have you heard fulanis are in idp camp? Again, why is Boko haram not abducting fulanis who are even nearer to them in the bush? Please, provide believable answers and stop saying buhari is fasting or praying for those his brothers killed. What sense are you making?
Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by AgentOfAllah: 9:19pm On Jul 18, 2019
rosebowl01:


I put "you[i][/i]" and "ones" in the same sentence. Go figure.
I assume you've read some comment of mine in which I advocated for war? If so, quote that comment and I'll immediately wire #15,000 to you and tender an unqualified apology. If you can't, you might want to apologise to me for mischaracterisation.

By the way, this is a discussion, not a question and answer session.
Aha...who would have thought questions and answers are not intrinsic features of discussions. Don't mind my ignorance o jarre, dear enlightened individual.
Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by AgentOfAllah: 9:30pm On Jul 18, 2019
MetaPhysical:


The terrorism in North is real.
The terrorism in South is artificial,

What we see in South is a problem that spilled over from North.

Why did you not use this approach to keep this bullshytte terrorism up there? Why are you now coming here trying to form intelligent analyst?
You've obviously developed an uncanny ability to perceive and differentiate between real and artificial terrorism. Good for you! As for me, I'm not that perceptive. All I see are lots of people suffering, from north to South and from east to west. I'm asking you, myself and the larger society what can be done to reduce these sufferings. The solution seems obvious to me, and it doesn't involve the vilification of any particular ethnic group. I can elaborate more on my proposition if it interests you. I hope it does. If not, good luck with your categorisations of types of terrorism.
Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by Nobody: 1:05pm On Jul 19, 2019
Half truth is more dangerous that a full-blown lie.
Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by Nobody: 4:15pm On Jul 19, 2019
The south should wake up
Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by Nobody: 9:23am On Jul 20, 2019
Justice must prevail
Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by rosebowl01(m): 4:27am On Jul 21, 2019
AgentOfAllah:

I assume you've read some comment of mine in which I advocated for war? If so, quote that comment and I'll immediately wire #15,000 to you and tender an unqualified apology. If you can't, you might want to apologise to me for mischaracterisation.


Aha...who would have thought questions and answers are not intrinsic features of discussions. Don't mind my ignorance o jarre, dear enlightened individual.

Did you say you will give me 15,000 naira ��. Says a lot about your arrogant personality. It’s not your fault, the internet is blind, and does mix people of different background together.
Bottom line is; if you want to fix your bush roaming people’s problem, why don’t you just set up ranches in your states in the North of Nigeria? Why are you hellbent on seizing southern lands that are already much smaller and denser? Why do you want to mix your poverty infested people and culture with people that you detest?
By the way, go use your 15k life savings to buy more gworo for your family.

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Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by AgentOfAllah: 5:37am On Jul 21, 2019
rosebowl01:


Did you say you will give me 15,000 naira ��. Says a lot about your arrogant personality. It’s not your fault, the internet is blind, and does mix people of different background together.
You're clearly the one who is arrogant here, by acting like #15,000 is beneath you. But you're right about the internet being blind...blind to arrogant pricks like you who believe they should be worshipped and respected on the basis of their material wealth, not on the wealth of their moral characters. I'm happy the egalitarian nature of the internet gives a lot of grief to the morally bankrupt such as your kind.

Bottom line is; if you want to fix your bush roaming people’s problem, why don’t you just set up ranches in your states in the North of Nigeria? Why are you hellbent on seizing southern lands that are already much smaller and denser? Why do you want to mix your poverty infested people and culture with people that you detest?
Everybody is my people. From the relentless bush roamers, to my awesomely industrious brothers and sisters from the east, to my accommodating siblings from the west, to my savvy northern comrades, to my resilient southern family. They are all beautiful, I love them all, and detest no one. On the other hand, your unfortunate choice of words clearly shows who it is that is doing the detesting.
That said, I find it rather interesting that you keep projecting your own characteristics on me. First, you called me arrogant, when your behaviour (not wanting to mix with me for nothing more than your assessment that we have different backgrounds) clearly shows you to be the arrogant one. Next, you accused me of detesting southerners when the sort of language you used to describe herders clearly shows you to be the one filled with hate and detestation. I wonder what else there is to you which you've projected on me. Poverty, perhaps? Not that poverty is a crime. You see, I'd gladly mix with you, irrespective of your financial status. You, on the other hand, think you shouldn't mix with people when they're poor. What does that say about your moral character?

By the way, go use your 15k life savings to buy more gworo for your family.
Even though I am presently inclined to agreeing with you that buying gworo for my family is a more worthy investment choice, my offer still stands if you can show that I've ever advocated for war. Heck, since #15,000 is beneath you, I'll raise the stake to #15,001. Oya, get searching...
Re: Call It Demonizing Or Anything, Let The Fulanis Do The Right Thing by Nobody: 1:53am On Aug 10, 2019
Things are getting worse by the day.

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