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Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Yusman316(m): 10:04pm On Jul 18, 2019
notoriousbabe:
unlike the other beastly religion of MURIC
Bros, na una una o. Nothing concern muric for this issue grin
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Nobody: 10:06pm On Jul 18, 2019
Damod88:



I don't agree with you that Reno is sound and intelligent. Being able to criticize other people when you don't even need to does not mean one is intelligent. If you consider Reno intelligent what do you make of his statement that Christianity began in Africa which is another way of saying that Christianity actually preceded the birth of Jesus? His ignorance was to assume that there were Christians before Jesus, the man the faith was named after. Another of Reno's gaffe was to derail from the subject matter to another issue that I think is not necessary. Why did he bring in the issue of Quran when Islam and Muslims are not the subjects of discussion?In my opinion Reno was a poor argumentator with poor argumentative skill in defending his Christian faith. He was just being emotional with the fact that the faith he describes to was ridiculed beyond damage. I don't consider Reno reasonable or intelligent.

When he said Christianity came from Africa you can reference that to the times of ADAM.
MOSES GREW UP IN EGYPT BUY WAS AN ISRAELITE BUT IN THE TWIST JESUS IS A ISRAELITE.
AND MIND YOU CHRISTIANS AND FOLLOWERS OF GOD LIKE MOSES ABRAHAM JOSHUA AND THE REST LIVED BEFORE JESUS CAME TO THE WORLD.
SO CHRISTIANITY STARTED VERY MUCH SINCE .

AND IN THE MENTION OF MUSLIMS IN THE POST ITS TRUE BECAUSE SOME MUSLIMS WILL USE THIS CRITICS TO CRITIZE THE CHRISTIANS SO I WILL SAY.

I GO WITH WHAT HE SAID
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by malvisguy212: 10:07pm On Jul 18, 2019
daddytime:
Rubbish submissions that are refusing to hold any water from Reno.

Every one of his quotations are so flaky and puncturable.

Surely not a good defender of the bible.

E.g

You are not your sins.

According to Reno your sin commits itself and as such is hated by God and not you the "commiter".

A pile of bullcrap..and the usual over emotional religious fanatics are in consonance.

All his quotations up there are simply figments and shreddable I repeat.

NB

For those attacking my submissions above and requesting for me to refute Reno's Bible quotes, well let's enjoy the piece below together...

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination ... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations.
A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24.
The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odour for the Lord - Lev.1:9.
The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odour is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death.
Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan.

James M. Kauffman, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus, Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special Education University of Virginia
(It would be a damn shame if we couldn't own a Canadian)


do you know what the bible say about slave ? son of perdition.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by ifyboy60(m): 10:08pm On Jul 18, 2019
Lokoyen:


Very Dumb! There many dumb people on nairaland. Imagine saying a Nation doesn't have an Army!

I wonder the type of brain Nigerian atheists possess.
How can someone with the ability to type say such.
Iceland that was formed by the warrior Vikings suddenly have no Army.
Iceland that have a national church.

Some people have akamu for brains.

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Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Shimran(m): 10:10pm On Jul 18, 2019
stefanbanach:
Iceland is non religious but they are the most peaceful country on earth. They don't even have an army.
Meaning that they were all born without purpose, and we're all born just by nature without Supernatural Being? Born-Enjoy life-Die-end!! A common human being do things with purpose. Lastly those religious countries that are always in war, it just a test of life!
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Shimran(m): 10:19pm On Jul 18, 2019
RockHard:
The Bible is at best a book of contradictions. Racism, genocide, incest, adultery, land-grabbing, and more can be justified or argued for and against using the same book. Very messed up body of text it is.
Well and talented comments. Again, Excellent!

Son (God)+ Mother(God)+ supernatural (God) = One God . Pls how

Again God, the Almighty, is watching, a common human being Killed his only and beloved son yet nothing is done
The modern Bible, a self contradictory texts

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Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by musicwriter(m): 10:24pm On Jul 18, 2019
On the Bible being a European gimmick, note that The Bible originated in AFRICA. The First Nation mentioned in Bible Is African-Gen 2:13. Moses was TUTORED by His BLACK father-in-Law (Exo 18:24). Christianity got to Africa before Europe (Acts 18:22-40)

Someone who knows Reno should inform him that the Christianity he believes today is not the same one that originated in Africa. I used to have that confusion until I made further research. That original ancient African system only lasted up to the 1st century AD. It died in the 2nd century AD as soon as Europeans hijacked the system for political control. But, yes, Christianity is a plagiarism of the ancient African spiritual system. The closest to the original African Christianity could be found in Ethiopia today but it wasn't called Christianity. Still, it was also Europeanized when a certain king arrived Ethiopia from the Byzantine empire.

Christianity as practiced today is a European religion invented by the amalgamation of Mithrasm and other pagan religions. The purpose was and is still to control people, to make you not question authority because God said so, to make you accept your enslavement as the will of God.

The following books are for anybody who want to research more about the origin of Christianity.

Bible myths and their parallel in other religions- T.W Doane
Christianity before Christ- John G Jackson
The sixteen crucified saviors- Karsey Graves
101 Myths of the Bible: How ancient scribes invented biblical history- Gary Greenberg
NAILED: Ten Christian myths that show Jesus never existed at all- David Fitzgerald.
Myth and ritual in Christianity- Alan Watts
Anacalypsis- Godfrey Higgins

And if you don't have time and want a summary, the below documentary and lecture explains the African origin of Christianity, and all other religions for that matter.

The origin of all religions - Dr. Robert Bauval
How Europeans hijacked African spirituality to control the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NisfS4x1R4

The origin of all religions - Dr. James Small

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8qZQ_SkLw

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Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Damod88: 10:25pm On Jul 18, 2019
simplesearch:


Government built prisons all over the Nation not because they want anybody to offend or break the law and be incarcerated there,
unfortunately some are even sent their for life. Is that not preemptive or a good ground to accuse the government of being complicit?
In similar vein are exams invented so people could fail? the answer is simple No, Do we then fold our arms without making any effort to succeed because the intention is not to fail us but to facilitate our progress? We prepare for success assiduously and sometimes burn the night candle to achieve our goal and secure our future, do we give same attention to knowing God and his word? God never intended any human being end up in hell, Jesus specifically said the place was created for the devil and his rebellions Demon/Angels alike, Read Matt 25:41. Don't waste precious time meditating on consequences of actions that is not imposed on you, It is wisdom to leave what is not within your capacity to control while focusing only on things within your control. Now what are the things within your control?
1. You can repent and confess your sins to God right now, and you'll receive eternal abundant life from God and Joy and grace in your heart.
2. You can Read the Bible to know what is God's will for you in every situation.
3. You can Resist every temptation to do evil and act right!

You are sure to end well by his grace, Hellfire like human prison is not meant for you, once you are a good citizen no prison sentence for you whether on temporal or permanent basis. sometimes in this world there could be a mix up or miscarriage of justice due to human error that get innocent people into problem and turn them prisoners, not so with omniscient God, you cant serve him according to his word and go to hell by mistake.


How did you determine things which are within our control? What if I consider those things you said not within my control? Is it not the case of you trying to impose your belief on others? Will u also accept my own guidelines as regards things I consider within human beings control even though they conflict with your beliefs?
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Damod88: 10:33pm On Jul 18, 2019
Shimran:

Meaning that they were all born without purpose, and we're all born just by nature without Supernatural Being? Born-Enjoy life-Die-end!! A common human being do things with purpose. Lastly those religious countries that are always in war, it just a test of life!


What is purpose?

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Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by KenModi(m): 10:36pm On Jul 18, 2019
stefanbanach:
Iceland is non religious but they are the most peaceful country on earth. They don't even have an army.

Help me tell those idiots agreeing with Reno upandan

Religion is nothing but tool used by the privileged ones to oppress and deceive the underprivileged.

No wonder Africa is a mess.

Since Europeans moved past religions to science and technology true development began manifesting in their societies.

But my people are still shouting blood of Jesus and Allahu Akbar upandan in this 21st Century instead of focusing on developing their cities and holding their leaders accountable

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Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by kswitch63: 10:42pm On Jul 18, 2019
aseosa:


When he said Christianity came from Africa you can reference that to the times of ADAM.
MOSES GREW UP IN EGYPT BUY WAS AN ISRAELITE BUT IN THE TWIST JESUS IS A ISRAELITE.
AND MIND YOU CHRISTIANS AND FOLLOWERS OF GOD LIKE MOSES ABRAHAM JOSHUA AND THE REST LIVED BEFORE JESUS CAME TO THE WORLD.
SO CHRISTIANITY STARTED VERY MUCH SINCE .

AND IN THE MENTION OF MUSLIMS IN THE POST ITS TRUE BECAUSE SOME MUSLIMS WILL USE THIS CRITICS TO CRITIZE THE CHRISTIANS SO I WILL SAY.

I GO WITH WHAT HE SAID

No mind am... He didn't even read before using his leprosy fingers to comment... Reno didn't say that Christianity began in Africa... He said the Bible began in Africa... Which further buttresses his point that Christianity got to Africa before Europe...

Correct me if I am wrong but the name "Christians" means Christ-like and was given after Christ came.

Before Christ was (in no particular order) Abraham, Moses, Jacob (Israel), David, John the Baptist and a host of others. What were they practising if not Christianity??

It hadn't been given an official name until Christ came... It doesn't mean that christianity wasn't being practiced.

Let Mr. Ikhide go and say that about the Quran na... whether they will not chant Allah is Great while slicing his throat...
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Shimran(m): 10:43pm On Jul 18, 2019
Damod88:



What is purpose?
Purpose may be defined as the reason for which something is done.

Answer to your question: The purpose of the human life to do what his Creator ordered him. It's now left for you, go into the world seeks for the RIGHT belief with care. (this can be done only if you even believe in the existence of CREATOR AND ORIGINATOR OF HUMAN, yourself knows the truth, if He exist or not)
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Damod88: 10:53pm On Jul 18, 2019
aseosa:


When he said Christianity came from Africa you can reference that to the times of ADAM.
MOSES GREW UP IN EGYPT BUY WAS AN ISRAELITE BUT IN THE TWIST JESUS IS A ISRAELITE.
AND MIND YOU CHRISTIANS AND FOLLOWERS OF GOD LIKE MOSES ABRAHAM JOSHUA AND THE REST LIVED BEFORE JESUS CAME TO THE WORLD.
SO CHRISTIANITY STARTED VERY MUCH SINCE .

AND IN THE MENTION OF MUSLIMS IN THE POST ITS TRUE BECAUSE SOME MUSLIMS WILL USE THIS CRITICS TO CRITIZE THE CHRISTIANS SO I WILL SAY.

I GO WITH WHAT HE SAID


I still insist on the fact that Reno is not intelligent irrespective of what you said. Abraham, Moses and Jesus Christ did not call themselves Christians.People started calling themselves Christians after the death of Christ and not before. So Christianity was a later invention.Secondly I don't think Reno needs to be bothered about what the Muslims would say. If he is truly intelligent he should have reasonably defended his religion against the critic who found fault in the Bible rather than arguing off point. If he wanted to fend off the attacks from Muslims as you claim, then why not bring in other religions as well? Argument is not about going off point but all about being logical and precise.

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Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by NwaliE01: 11:07pm On Jul 18, 2019
DOMINO001:
Reno too good abeg.
The critic should just do what Reno said in the last paragraph.
Good point
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by kswitch63: 11:08pm On Jul 18, 2019
Damod88:



I still insist on the fact that Reno is not intelligent irrespective of what you said. Abraham, Moses and Jesus Christ did not call themselves Christians.People started calling themselves Christians after the death of Christ and not before. So Christianity was a later invention.Secondly I don't think Reno needs to be bothered about what the Muslims would say. If he is truly intelligent he should have reasonably defended his religion against the critic who found fault in the Bible rather than arguing off point. If he wanted to fend off the attacks from Muslims as you claim, then why not bring in other religions as well? Argument is not about going off point but all about being logical and precise.


Guy reason na...

He referenced the Islamic religion because those two religions are predominant in Nigeria and I am sure that both Reno and Ikhide are Nigerians... (Not that Christianity and Islam are the only religions in the world oh)

and no one said Abraham, Moses and Jesus called themselves that...

the name Christian means Christ-like. People who behave like Christ and like you said came about after Christ...

It doesn't mean that it wasn't practised before Christ... Abraham and Co practised Christianity although at the time, it wasn't know as Christianity...

They only loved and feared God...
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by oonix(f): 11:20pm On Jul 18, 2019
SoftP:
That so called literary critic is being possessed by esu.

You may not be far from the truth sha. His Facebook posts attest to that.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Lokoyen(m): 11:22pm On Jul 18, 2019
ifyboy60:


I wonder the type of brain Nigerian atheists possess.
How can someone with the ability to type say such.
Iceland that was formed by the warrior Vikings suddenly have no Army.
Iceland that have a national church.

Some people have akamu for brains.

Nigeria atheist version are just brainless. Dey jump on anything that involve d church/pastor without doing any findings.

Arguing with dem is a waste of time.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by TAO11(f): 12:08am On Jul 19, 2019
"Bible condemn sins and not sinners" he said.

I guess it's the sin and not the sinners that will be roasted for an eternity in order to satisfy YHWH.

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Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by DedeNkem: 12:48am On Jul 19, 2019
Omokri is an id*iot. Proof the guy wrong or shut up!
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by KenModi(m): 12:50am On Jul 19, 2019
Starlight10:
lool. Statistics my foot. How many people own up to being involved in ATR I studied Sociology and Anthropology. And i have the facts about ATR better than you, oh wise one. I have a lot to say to you but lack the time. Dont you ever at me again with your rubbish approach to conversation.

And your study of Sociology and Anthropology was plucked out of the air? The books and articles you studied were written by the authors out of their wonderful imaginations? No research was conducted, no findings and no investigations. You just happened to read some magical books and boom! you know about any and everything concerning religion on the African continent.

Well you studied Sociology and Anthropology so I don’t expect you to appreciate or even understand the value of statistics or quantitative research.

And BTW, I wasn’t looking to have a conversation, that isn’t what Nairaland is meant for. I wanted to pass my point across and I did that to the full extent.

Also, I can quote or mention anyone I feel like on this forum, no one can stop me! If you don’t like my quoting or mentioning you, then take that device you are looking at in your hand right now and smash in on the wall.

Nonsense!! angry
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Meti99(m): 12:50am On Jul 19, 2019
jidenna21:

But Jesus teaches jihad �
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.— Luke 19:27

Quoting out of context!!!

It was a parable
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by compton11(m): 12:50am On Jul 19, 2019
SoftP:
That so called literary critic is being possessed by esu.

wrong!
Esu ain't Satan,they are different
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Nobody: 1:02am On Jul 19, 2019
KenModi:


And your study of Sociology and Anthropology was plucked out of the air? The books and articles you studied were written by the authors out of their wonderful imaginations? No research was conducted, no findings and no investigations. You just happened to read some magical books and boom! you know about any and everything concerning religion on the African continent.

Well you studied Sociology and Anthropology so I don’t expect you to appreciate or even understand the value of statistics or quantitative research.

And BTW, I wasn’t looking to have a conversation, that isn’t what Nairaland is meant for. I wanted to pass my point across and I did that to the full extent.

Also, I can quote or mention anyone I feel like on this forum, no one can stop me! If you don’t like my quoting or mentioning you, then take that device you are looking at in your hand right now and smash in on the wall.

Nonsense!! angry
see the long note. you that read statistics hope you are better than Bill Gates. talking like a foolish child. alot of people in Africa practice ATR in the cover of conventional religions like Islam and Christianity. an imbe*cile like you should know that. like i said i don't have time for you, just masturbate to gay porn and sleep.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by KenModi(m): 1:08am On Jul 19, 2019
Starlight10:
see the long note. you that read statistics hope you are better than Bill Gates. talking like a foolish child. alot of people in Africa practice ATR in the cover of conventional religions like Islam and Christianity. an slowpoke like you should know that. like i said i don't have time for you, just masturbate to gay porn and sleep.

And the ratio of those that practice in cover is more than those who stick strictly to either Islam and Christianity respectively??

Aunty when did you do this research or you are just speaking from what you see your neighbours and friends do??

I can see you have something against masturbation, gay people and possibly even sleep too grin grin grin
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Nobody: 1:16am On Jul 19, 2019
KenModi:


And the ratio of those that practice in cover is more than those who stick strictly to either Islam and Christianity respectively??

Aunty when did you do this research or you are just speaking from what you see your neighbours and friends do??

I can see you have something against masturbation, gay people and possibly even sleep too grin grin grin
Your OP talk is exhausting. but go off ... lol
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Alashoalash10: 1:17am On Jul 19, 2019
Ify05:
Reno Omokri has reacted to the post made by Literary critic, Ikhide Ikheloa, criticizing the bible.

Ikhide in a post he shared on his Facebook page yesterday July 17th, criticized Africans for still believing in the Bible and the 'White man's God.' He opined that the Bible "is a great work of fiction" and "a tool of oppression created by feuding brothers to oppress women, children, and the vulnerable."

Reacting to Ikhide's post, Reno via his Twitter handle, said the literary critic is under the influence of his father, Satan. According to Omokri, Ikhide should say the same things he said about the bible, about the Quaran and see what happens to him.

Read Reno's tweets below:

See more here https://thickmatch.com/reno-omokri-dares-literary-critic-ikhide-ikheloa-speaking-bible/
fools are known by their words,say the same about Qur'an and see what the Muslim jihadist will do to you,but the Bible you speak against will not allowed the Christian to fight you
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by nurusystem(m): 3:24am On Jul 19, 2019
jidenna21:

But Jesus teaches jihad �
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.— Luke 19:27
Jihad is not to fight your enemy alone but to strive and struggle in God cost.so don't get it twisted.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by nurusystem(m): 3:36am On Jul 19, 2019
preface of RSV bible is not good to see.Reno check this bomb defected...the word of god has grave defects


Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. The task was undertaken, by authority of the Church of England, in 1870.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Sapiosexuality(m): 6:33am On Jul 19, 2019
Omudia11:
So God who came down to die for sinners was not a good person. Lmao.

Do you know that as a human being,
rats , flies, chickens ,other animals etc see you as a devil because you kill them? Does that mean you're a devil?

Can you now see that you don't have sense?
Your analogy is weak. Your analogy makes Vegetarians better than God. Try something else.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Sapiosexuality(m): 6:37am On Jul 19, 2019
Omudia11:
You know why? Because He is God and the custodian and owner of all things.
You don't tell God what to do on his planet and world just like your neighbor wouldn't tell you what to do in your house.

If you think God is not doing a good job why don't you create your own universe to live in? Oh! And first you must give him your body, soul and spirit first because this one you have is his. grin
Does this make any sense to you? So because he is God his immorality is not immorality? This is what Religion does to people. Not only does it promote an inferior sense of Justice, it puts so much fear into their hearts that is enough to abominate sound reasoning? Why create conscious thinking beings if you want zombies? The truth is, you are simply what you are because of colonization and your parents choice. An IFA worshipper will argue same before colonization happened.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Sapiosexuality(m): 6:41am On Jul 19, 2019
aseosa:


The Bible says according to THE SAYING OF GOD. GOD SAID "" I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHO I WANT TO HAVE MERCY ON AND COMPARSSION ON WHO I WANT TO HAVE COMPARSSION ON.""
That's sentiments and when you begin to bring that into Justice you mess up everything. Today our President does same thing and we despise him but if it God we make excuses for him. Truth is, there is nothing compassionate about the God of the old testament. He is more like a crude, proud bushman whose uncivilized behavior wrecked the minds of his creation. And this creation are too trapped in the mental prison to see it. There is nothing merciful about Yahweh. Maybe Jesus but not Yahweh or Allah.
Re: Reno Omokri Blasts Ikhide Ikheloa For Speaking Against The Bible by Sapiosexuality(m): 6:52am On Jul 19, 2019
DavidEsq:

I appreciate ur analytic mind. However let's start with the first bolden: why can't God help the poor? In other words, why is there suffering? The answer to this poser lies in what happened at the beginning of life on earth. Genesis 1:31 says: "After that God saw everything he had made, and look! it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning a sixth day". Genesis 2:15-16 says: Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it. 16 Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction". This tells us that life on earth was cosy, no suffering or poverty, the bible says God's desire was that man was to have a life of satisfaction. So suffering was never part of God's plan for man. What then happened that suffering came into the world?
Genesis 2:17 says: "But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die". Now man wa given a law by God. So long as man continued to obey that law, he continued to accept God as his Sovereign, and as the one who had the right to rule over him by giving him laws. Why couldn't man make his laws, independent of God's control? Well the answer lies in the same reason u determine for ur child what is in his best interest because u love him and and wish him well. In fact, Isaiah 48:17(b) says: I, Jehovah, am your God,The One teaching you to benefit yourself,The One guiding you in the way you should walk". It means God's laws are in our best interests. Now based on wat we have seen so far, man knew wat he would do to remain cosy, just like ur child knows from wat u instruct him. Do u cause the consequences of ur child's disobedience? I think not. So wat happened na? This is it: in Genesis 3:4-5 says: At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad." what exactly was Satan saying to the woman? That she should disobey God's instructions. And if she did, she would be like God, knowing good and bad. What was it to "know good and bad" in this context? Certainly, it didn't mean recognising wrong from right. This is because man already knew wat he shouldn't do and wat he shld do. He even knew the consequences of doing wat was bad. In fact, if dis was wat the devil meant, then he would have been caught in his lie by the woman. Wat the devil was saying to Eve was dat "if she ate the fruit, she would become a god to herself, deciding for herself, wat was good and bad". That is she would be a ruler to herself and would no longer need God to give her laws. The devil made the fruit look like the only thing that stood between Eve and a godlike personality, where she exercised to decide for herself, wat was right and wrong. That was verse 6 tells us that the "woman saw that the fruit was pleasing to the eyes". Why was it so important that that fruit was the subject matter of the discussion/temptation? This is because the fruits of that tree represented the only law that God gave to man and as long as man stayed away from eating that fruit, he continued to accept God's standards of wat is right and wat is wrong, just as ur child accepts u a his guide, each time he obeys ur instructions. As soon as man chose to eat that fruit, he rejected God's standards of wat is right and wat is wrong. Consequently, he accepted the devil's own standards that man doesn't need God but can rule over himself with his own set of laws and standards. Just like a child decides to do his bidding and becomes independent of his father's control. Was the devil right? Wat was the consequence of man's action? Romans 5:12 answers that question: it says: "That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—". So suffering came into the world as a result of man's action and the deceiver became the controller of world/man's life (compare 1 John 5:19). God never forced himself on man. Why would we be affected when we are not Adam? Well, take for example, u have two sons who u send abroad to get a better life: one stays obedient, but the other doesn't. If both sons have children in their respective circumstances, wouldn't their respective circumstances affect their kids? O yeah. This is the ultimate cause of world events of poverty. However, there are other reasons for this poverty. Let's talk about them shortly and u would see that they all come back to the beginning. Oh yes, even government policies today.
All these quotes are not necessary. I use to do same. I was in the Evangelical ministry too and even on this forum I defended God but a time comes when we have to shed every mental slavery and if we are honest enough we can go through. The fear is hell is what holds most people here.

You failed to see the hypocrisy I'm pointing on the part of God. God said he gave the freewill and wouldn't interfere in their affairs except they call on him and I'm wondering why when he finally decided to go against man's freewill he destroyed man with water. It doesn't make sense.

There are so many inconsistencies with the story. I mean who puts temptation in the garden if he knows the outcome of everything? If he doesn't know, how then is he omniscient? The entire creation story does not make sense to me except it is allegorical.

See the suffering around and compare how much you want to help with how God wants to. He speaks of helping the poor but he doesn't and when we do people give him the credit but when we don't we are called stingy. God wins either way.

Let me ask you this question and I hope you can provide an answer. The question is:

If God is so great and omniscient and operates in the highest level of perfection, why would he create us? I think creating us will be to satisfy a need and he bears a need that means he is not perfect as claimed. Why would the richest, the most powerful and the most fulfilled man create something new? Is he still qualified to bear these titles?

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