DavidEsq:

No we can't, cos the scriptures says "the dead know nothing at all", neither do they have thoughts. See Ecclesiastics 9:5,6. Let's look at the scriptures u have analysed to arrive at this conclusion. Shoot pls.

We can't but the same scripture talks about a place of suffering for those who don't worship God? The truth is, so many of you are better than God but you are afraid of admitting it. God's story is filled with Genocide and even though we insult Hitler, we glorify Mohammed and Yahweh, two warmongers, and the society pretends it's fine. In a very civilsed society, admitting to be a follower of Mohammed or Yahweh should get one locked up. It is like loving Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Mobutu, Amin, Nguema or any of those monsters whose unfortunate existence put off the lights in many lives.

lonelydora:
Reno is very sound and intelligent. He has been giving it to Buhari and Presidency back to back on Twitter.

You see, this kind of act is why I don't really blame Muslims when they kill people who joke with Mohammed and Quran. They made it in a way you don't joke with them, no matter what. They call it blasphemy and will be shouting" Allah Akbar" while slaughtering people. Thanks

I wish Christians can have such high intolerance when it come to Jesus and the Bible.

Ode , go and read Nietzsche on Master - Slave morality . Further from here , read all his philosophical commentaries on Christianity. Weaknesses , according to him , are the excuses for docility , weak and slavish doctrines to deprive its adherents of a mind of their own. When you read Russell's WHY I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN, you would come back with a clear understanding of the ambiguity which attends the word ' Christian' .

Sapiosexuality:
We can't but the [b]same scripture talks about a place of suffering for those who don't worship God? [/b]The truth is, so many of you are better than God but you are afraid of admitting it. God's story is filled with Genocide and even though we insult Hitler, we glorify Mohammed and Yahweh, two warmongers, and the society pretends it's fine. In a very civilsed society, admitting to be a follower of Mohammed or Yahweh should get one locked up. It is like loving Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, Mobutu, Amin, Nguema or any of those monsters whose unfortunate existence put off the lights in many lives.

U failed to quote it, bro

DavidEsq:

U failed to quote it, bro

Quote what? The bible? The truth is, remove the fear of hell so many people will give up on Religion in Nigeria. Personally I've come to the conclusion that if such a place exists for someone like me for simply not worshipping a God, I'm willing to be be there. I can't worship such person even if I know the penalty is hell. That's wickedness and I'm not willing to bow to it. Such a person can't be good and it is a good deed to suffer in the hands of an evil man.

stefanbanach:
Iceland is non religious but they are the most peaceful country on earth. They don't even have an army.

I would kill you without hesitating, if the bible wasn't restricting me from such. Do you know how many people I'd enjoy hurting if I didn't have the love of Christ inherent in me?

Al this rubbish just to defend your imported white god and their religion. Sorry for yourself and your children! You should be ashame of yourself. You leave the god of your forefathers, the same god that gave them life, gAve them good health, and even mistakely gave them You. You leave this god and be worshippin god of other people forefather. Out of inferiority complex. Out of cowardice. The anger of our forefathers were the reason we are suffering in this present time in the world. We must come back to them and try to appease the gods. Fools wake up! Sheeples!

Lawrry:
When people call Christianity an ordinary European religion, I just laugh over it.
I do imagine what Africa and Nigeria would have become if this white didn't come. Despite the exposure they brought see what we are still doing to one another, see the rate of ritualism, see murder, see xenophobic attacks etc.
We claim to have juju and black powers, what were these powers doing when they brought Christianity? Why can't we use these juju and black powers to stop Christianity? What was Ogun,Sango,Obatala etc doing when Christianity was spreading? Can't they stop the spread? At least Christianity met them in the land, why do they fold their hands and watch foreigners winning the heart of their own people?
When this white came to colonise us and took us as slaves, what happens to our juju and black powers? What were the gods doing, why were they not invocked against the white men to prevent them from enslaving us?
I think that if we can reason logically and not been bias there is more to this thing that people call European religion because till today, no one can boast about any visible impact ( in terms of economy,education, technology etc) that our traditional African religion, African gods and goddesses brought to us before colonization. Don't forget that even the formal education we all have today came from the missionaries that brought Christianity to Africa, therefore, there is more to this religion.

Champele:
Al this rubbish just to defend your imported white god and their religion. Sorry for yourself and your children! You should be ashame of yourself. You leave the god of your forefathers, the same god that gave them life, gAve them good health, and even mistakely gave them You. You leave this god and be worshippin god of other people forefather. Out of inferiority complex. Out of cowardice. The anger of our forefathers were the reason we are suffering in this present time in the world. We must come back to them and try to appease the gods. Fools wake up! Sheeples!

This is gullible, you can see what we are talking about? An average black is excessively aggressive, insulting and abusive and we need this God in heaven to purge us, not any Ogbanje powers and others.
See how you carefully select insulting and abusive words to react to the comment of a man you have never seen before, is that also as a result of the spirit of our forefathers? Remember that there is no money attached to comments on Nairaland, so if money is attached what would you have done to me, because I made a point?
Another point is that, when Christian missionaries were converting people from the gods of our forefathers, why were the gods watching, why can't they prevent it from happening?
You also said the gods are angry, that's why we are suffering, why can't they direct their angers towards the whites that brainwashed us then and now, why is it that we that belong to them are the ones they are angered at?.
I don't know you but, I must tell you that when you are addressing issue on public forum, try to be polite, the world is round you know? We can meet anywhere.

Always read to understand before you respond. I said the Bible as a single unit book never existed until at the council of Nicea, when the Christian leaders convened to sellect among the scrolls and documents...call it sacred, I will call it historical documents. The book of Exodus isn't the Bible...Abraham was from "Ur" modern day Iraq according to the book Genesis. So because the Jews lived in Egypt then the Bible or Christainity started from Africa. Were Egyptians Christians or Jews? Did the Bible discuss the Egyptian Gods? Have you ever wondered why some of the 7 books of Moses never made it to the Bible? They were esoteric books of magic relating to Egyptian Gods and culture. how are the Africans you are referring to portrayed by the Bible? Weren't they portrayed as villains. "The Egyptians you see, you shall see no more" were they portrayed I'm good light?
Have you read the book of Thomas, the book of Judith, the 6th and 7th books of Moses that didn't make it to the Bible because they wanted to promote a certain culture and narrative.

ifyboy60:


u are spreading falsehood.

the Bible existed as sacred scriptures, the council of Nicean only added them to make a BOOK.

during the time of Constantine there was no ottoman empire. Constantine was emperor of Rome. the ottomans were Muslims.

the book of exodus happened in Africa, Jesus took refuge in Africa.

Study serious history and don't depend on gossips.

SaintNemesis:
Always read to understand before you respond. I said the Bible as a single unit book never existed until at the council of Nicea, when the Christian leaders convened to sellect among the scrolls and documents...call it sacred, I will call it historical documents. The book of Exodus isn't the Bible...Abraham was from "Ur" modern day Iraq according to the book Genesis. So because the Jews lived in Egypt then the Bible or Christainity started from Africa. Were Egyptians Christians or Jews? Did the Bible discuss the Egyptian Gods? Have you ever wondered why some of the 7 books of Moses never made it to the Bible? They were esoteric books of magic relating to Egyptian Gods and culture. how are the Africans you are referring to portrayed by the Bible? Weren't they portrayed as villains. "The Egyptians you see, you shall see no more" were they portrayed I'm good light?
Have you read the book of Thomas, the book of Judith, the 6th and 7th books of Moses that didn't make it to the Bible because they wanted to promote a certain culture and narrative.

Quite sad that u read history wrongly.
not all the books attributed to saints and prophets were actually written by them. Many were written in the Middle Ages by sages of the time and have been proven to be false.

Africans were never portrayed as villains. Whenever the Israelites had issues with other nations the writers of that time always portrayed their enemies as villains.
there are black jews right from biblical times to our era. an example is the Ethiopian Jews, u can google them. Racism is a more modern concept.

the people of cush (present day Ethiopia) we're described by the Bible as beautiful darks. Even in ancient Roman times people were judged based on their wealth and military strength rather than the color of their skin.

As for slavery it might surprise u to know that the church fought it more than any institution on earth. the song amazing grace came from opposition to slavery.

Sapiosexuality:
That's sentiments and when you begin to bring that into Justice you mess up everything. Today our President does same thing and we despise him but if it God we make excuses for him. Truth is, there is nothing compassionate about the God of the old testament. He is more like a crude, proud bushman whose uncivilized behavior wrecked the minds of his creation. And this creation are too trapped in the mental prison to see it. There is nothing merciful about Yahweh. Maybe Jesus but not Yahweh or Allah.

THAT IS WHY HE SENT HIS SON US TO CORRECT THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD.

JESUS CLEARLY SAID HE CAME FOR THE SINNERS NOT THE RIGHTEOUS ONES.
AND HE CAME TO CONDEM THE EVIL MEN DO. NOT TO PRAISE THE THEM

aseosa:


THAT IS WHY HE SENT HIS SON US TO CORRECT THE PROBLEMS IN THE WORLD.

JESUS CLEARLY SAID HE CAME FOR THE SINNERS NOT THE RIGHTEOUS ONES.
AND HE CAME TO CONDEM THE EVIL MEN DO. NOT TO PRAISE THE THEM

Okay. I no get power abeg.

stefanbanach:
Iceland is non religious but they are the most peaceful country on earth. They don't even have an army.

You lied

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Iceland

You are just foolish; how many did David and Gideon killed? Yet they made it to your assumptous heaven.!

James4bright:


I would kill you without hesitating, if the bible wasn't restricting me from such. Do you know how many people I'd enjoy hurting if I didn't have the love of Christ inherent in me?

You are asking stupid questions. The same questions you fail to ask when they force you bible, or could it be the threat of hell fire that come with it. You have been brainwashed to the extent you insult and make joke of the gods of your forefather. May their course be on your head. Your stupid Jesus was dead while all the bad stuffs happening to our country goes on. Or maybe he is busy with his virgins. Fool!

Lawrry:


This is gullible, you can see what we are talking about? An average black is excessively aggressive, insulting and abusive and we need this God in heaven to purge us, not any Ogbanje powers and others.
See how you carefully select insulting and abusive words to react to the comment of a man you have never seen before, is that also as a result of the spirit of our forefathers? Remember that there is no money attached to comments on Nairaland, so if money is attached what would you have done to me, because I made a point?
Another point is that, when Christian missionaries were converting people from the gods of our forefathers, why were the gods watching, why can't they prevent it from happening?
You also said the gods are angry, that's why we are suffering, why can't they direct their angers towards the whites that brainwashed us then and now, why is it that we that belong to them are the ones they are angered at?.
I don't know you but, I must tell you that when you are addressing issue on public forum, try to be polite, the world is round you know? We can meet anywhere.

Champele:
You are asking stupid questions. The same questions you fail to ask when they force you bible, or could it be the threat of hell fire that come with it. You have been brainwashed to the extent you insult and make joke of the gods of your forefather. May their course be on your head. Your stupid Jesus was dead while all the bad stuffs happening to our country goes on. Or maybe he is busy with his virgins. Fool!

Let me help you "you said their course will be on your head" well it is not course it is "curse". note that "a steward is answerable and subjected to his master" so inasmuch as I share nothing in common with your gods, I AM FREE, it is you that they know, OMO INA LAA RAN SINA, they can never miss road when their curse is coming to your household because they know you and you belong to them, as for me, ENI TI KO RA, KO LEE SANWO. After all you're their own whatever services they render, YOU'RE AN AUTOMATIC SUBSCRIBER, if they want to distribution curses, haha!!! why won't they remember their shareholder? A man cannot harvest where he has not invested.
There is bitterness in your writing, and your expression is full of attack, mind you, JESUS can save you from ancestral hatred and the bitterness that you express in your comments, JESUS SAVES.

Raysleek:
Without the Bible humanity would have been worse than animality

Exactly my thought.