How come when my Jamaican friend said the world will be a better place without them

Everyone said that's taking it too far

Why share the world with people you don't like
So ya all should stop pretending and admit you like them

This guy on other thread called me a wild animal for praising them, and white people see me as a wild animal too

I am just trying to make the world a better place

Wha has a blackman done?nothing.the white folks brought us education,stopped the killings of twins and liberation to black race..i no wan hear slavery...cos we enslaves ourselves more than they did.

Whites are far better.

If not for their advancement and technology, men and women with coneheaded structures will still be living in palm trees and going about with dangling slippers and pendulum

Ilamina:
How come when my Jamaican friend said the world will be a better place without them

Everyone said that's taking it too far

Why share the world with people you don't like
So ya all should stop pretending and admit you like them

This guy on other thread called me a wild animal for praising them, and white people see me as a wild animal too

I am just trying to make the world a better place

That sounds like genocide or something. There are a bunch of countries that are pretty much 99.9% black, so what is the problem.

CTPlayer:


That sounds like genocide or something. There are a bunch of countries that are pretty much 99.9% black, so what is the problem.

See what Mexican, African people go through because of borders created by the white man

Risking their lives crossing the Libya ocean to Italy etc

Is that enough for you to know the white man is wicked

Ilamina:


See what Mexican, African people go through because of borders created by the white man

Risking their lives crossing the Libya ocean to Italy etc

Is that enough for you to know the white man is wicked

Are you saying that there should be no countries or borders? That is crazy. If you don't like some borders that the Brits or France made
in Africa how in the hell can you blame a White American, Pole, Irish or a Swede? The Brits and French pretty much created the current Arabic countries that were once under control by the Turks. My guess is that the Arabs like have their own countries.

Ilamina:


See what Mexican, African people go through because of borders created by the white man

Risking their lives crossing the Libya ocean to Italy etc

Is that enough for you to know the white man is wicked

Stop sounding like a thief. You are not entitled to someone else's property

Timbuktuo:


Stop sounding like a thief. You are not entitled to someone else's property

so the white men were entitled to other people's property when they came into African uninvited and institutionalized terror on the African people?

We’re repeating lies now?

Timbuktuo:


Stop sounding like a thief. You are not entitled to someone else's property

What are you saying?

CTPlayer:


Are you saying that there should be no countries or borders? That is crazy. If you don't like some borders that the Brits or France made
in Africa how in the hell can you blame a White American, Pole, Irish or a Swede? The Brits and French pretty much created the current Arabic countries that were once under control by the Turks. My guess is that the Arabs like have their own countries.

We used to be in our various kingdoms
No borders

Ilamina:


We used to be in our various kingdoms
No borders

Yes and that was the case in many places.

CTPlayer:


Yes and that was the case in many places.

So why bring that to us

mysticwarrior:
so the white men were entitled to other people's property when they came into African uninvited and institutionalized terror on the African people?

Well, you are free to return the favour. Good luck

Ilamina:


What are you saying?

Their country, their rules

mysticwarrior:
so the white men were entitled to other people's property when they came into African uninvited and institutionalized terror on the African people?

Some were very bad, others not so much. But you can't blame all white people. Is a 3 year old white toddler today in Sweden to blame.
People don't engage in empire building or theft because of color, they do it because they could. They had the abilities, the backing, the ships, etc.
Africans also sailed north and plundered Europeans.

Timbuktuo:


Their country, their rules

That's why we don't need them

CTPlayer:


Some were very bad, others not so much. But you can't blame all white people. Is a 3 year old white toddler today in Sweden to blame.
People don't engage in empire building or theft because of color, they do it because they could. They had the abilities, the backing, the ships, etc.
Africans also sailed north and plundered Europeans.

how did Africans plundered Europeans? Don't even make reference to hanibbal and the Punic wars against Rome.

Timbuktuo:


Well, you are free to return the favour. Good luck

I don't need to, kama is already at their doorsteps.

To Op
Who told you We Africans hate White people?
If you want to drive your life energy from antagonizing
people or use hatred then go find another forum
This is not one of those closed -minded American forums it is an African forum.

panafrican:
To Op
Who told you We Africans hate White people?
If you want to drive your life energy from antagonizing
people or use hatred then go find another forum
This is not one of those closed -minded American forums it is an African forum.

People were calling me wild animal
For praising white people in the politics section

Does that make me wild

Ilamina:


People were calling me wild animal
For praising white people in the politics section

Does that make me wild

We are not the Black Americans you guys distracted
for centuries over skin color .We are deep rooted Africans .
We have other issues to care about here such as high speed trains , stabliity of ECOWAS 's new currency, the fight against Boko Haram and other Jihadist groups, health care , the road infrastructure connecting remote
areas in most of our countries to big cities , job creation, better universities,. RD ( Research Development ) , the overwhelming presence of the World Bank and the International monetary Funds in our domestic affairs . We do not care about all the nonsense such as skin color .

CTPlayer:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade

those North Africans who were involved in that act were heavily under the influence of the Ottoman empire, the ottoman empire carried out those raids.

mysticwarrior:
those North Africans who were involved in that act were heavily under the influence of the Ottoman empire, the ottoman empire carried out those raids.

The ships sailed from Africa.

panafrican:

We are not the Black Americans you guys distracted
for centuries over skin color .We are deep rooted Africans .
We have other issues to care about here such as high speed trains , stabliity of ECOWAS 's new currency, the fight against Boko Haram and other Jihadist groups, health care , the road infrastructure connecting remote
areas in most of our countries to big cities , job creation, better universities,. RD ( Research Development ) , the overwhelming presence of the World Bank and the International monetary Funds in our domestic affairs . We do not care about all the nonsense such as skin color .

I like white people

I was saying white people are nice and have swag

And people called me stupid and wild

Is there anything wrong praising them

I think they have swag

Ilamina:


I like white people

I was saying white people are nice and have swag

And people called me stupid and wild

Is there anything wrong praising them

I think they have swag

You wouldn't be saying this if you'd grown up in Louisiana or Mississippi.

Or in Russia, or Latvia...or Poland. Or even Italy.

Being a Nigerian, you don't have experience of the kind of 'white people' you should know about before discussing these sort of issues.

Do you know that in the USA there are 45 million+ African-Americans, and millions of them have very recent family histories in which their relatives were hunted down by hordes of whites, surrounded, poured petrol on and set on fire, as they were being hanged? These public lynchings of blacks was part and parcel of American life for its 400 year existence right up till just under 40 years ago. And that blatant racial discrimination exists till today, structurally, in education, criminal justice, housing, jobs et al.

When you speak to the average African American who was born and raised in Missisippi, or Missouri, or South Carolina, he doesn't tell you

''white people are nice and have swag''.

He has another story to tell you.

One that is far more reality-based, and far less romanticised than your wild-eyed adoration.

Rossikk:


You wouldn't be saying this if you'd grown up in Louisiana or Mississippi.

Or in Russia, or Latvia...or Poland. Or even Italy.

Being a Nigerian, you don't have experience of the kind of 'white people' you should know about before discussing these sort of issues.

Do you know that in the USA there are 45 million+ African-Americans, and millions of them have very recent family histories in which their relatives were hunted down by hordes of whites, surrounded, poured petrol on and set on fire, as they were being hanged? These public lynchings of blacks was part and parcel of American life for its 400 year existence right up till just under 40 years ago. And that blatant racial discrimination exists till today, structurally, in education, criminal justice, housing, jobs et al.

When you speak to the average African American who was born and raised in Missisippi, or Missouri, or South Carolina, he doesn't tell you

''white people are nice and have swag''.

He has another story to tell you.

In the black American group
They didn't agree with my Jamaican friend either

That means they like white people too

donbachi:
Wha has a blackman done?nothing.

Spoken like a true ILLITERATE of HISTORY. Disgusting and shameful.

the white folks brought us education

Point of correction. They brought us western education. They did not bring us education.

stopped the killings of twins

This oft-quoted practice was limited to a sub-group within the Igbo ethnicity, perhaps no more than a few clans, and was NOT a practice across Nigeria, or across Africa.

It is because you do not know your history as an African that you associate that obscure practice with all of Nigeria and Africa.

Ilamina:


In the black American group
They didn't agree with my Jamaican friend either

That means they like white people too

Not ALL black Americans have the same experiences or sentiments. You cannot gauge 45 million people by what your small group of friends said or did. If you are really interested in the black civil rights movement and the history of race relations in America, research it on Google or YouTube.

Rossikk:


Spoke like a true ILLITERATE of HISTORY




Point of correction. They brought us western education. They did not bring us education.



This oft-quoted practice was limited to a sub-group within the Igbo ethnicity, and was NOT a practice across Nigeria, or across Africa.

It is because you do not know your history as an African that you associate that obscure practice with all of Nigeria or Africa.

tell me one thing black man don do or invent wey the entire black race no fit do without?

donbachi:
tell me one thing black man don do or invent wey the entire black race no fit do without?

12 Great African Inventions That Changed The World



1 Speech

The first words by humans were spoken by Africans.

''Using statistical methods to estimate the time required to achieve the current spread and diversity in modern languages today, Johanna Nichols — a linguist at the University of California, Berkeley — argues that vocal language must have arisen in our species at least 100,000 years ago. Using phonemic diversity, a more recent analysis offers directly linguistic support for a similar date. Estimates of this kind are independently supported by genetic, archaeological, palaeontological and much other evidence suggesting that language probably emerged somewhere in sub-Saharan Africa during the Middle Stone Age, roughly contemporaneous with the speciation of Homo sapiens.''


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_language




2 Writing


In 1999, Archaeology Magazine reported that the earliest Egyptian hieroglyphs date back to 3400 BCE which "...challenge the commonly held belief that early logographs, pictographic symbols representing a specific place, object, or quantity, first evolved into more complex phonetic symbols in Mesopotamia."

Who were these original Egyptians?


The Greek historian Herodotus.. described the Colchians of the Black Sea shores as "Egyptians by race" and pointed out they had "black skins and kinky hair."

Apollodorus, the Greek philosopher, described Egypt as "the country of the black-footed ones" and the Latin historian Ammianus Marcellinus said "the men of Egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny desiccated look."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1624_story_of_africa/page88.shtml

In his book 'Egypt', British scholar Sir E.A. Wallis Budge says: "The prehistoric native of Egypt, both in the old and in the new Stone Ages, was African and there is every reason for saying that the earliest settlers came from the South." He further states: "There are many things in the manners and customs and religions of the historic Egyptians that suggests that the original home of their prehistoric ancestors was in a country in the neighborhood of Uganda and Punt [present day Somalia]."

''Greek historian Diodorus Siculus devoted an entire chapter of his world history, the Bibliotheke Historica, or Library of History (Book 3), to the Kushites ["Aithiopians"] of Meroe. Here he repeats the story of their great piety, their high favor with the gods, and adds the fascinating legend that they were.. the founders of Egyptian civilization, invented writing, and had given the Egyptians their religion and culture.''

(1st century B.C., Diodorus Siculus of Sicily, Greek historian and contemporary of Caesar Augustus, Universal History Book III. 2. 4-3. 3)

http://wysinger.homestead.com/blackegypt101.html

To summarise:

"Ancient Egypt was a Negro civilisation. The history of Black Africa will remain suspended in the air and cannot be written correctly until African historians connect it with the history of Egypt. The African historian who evades the problem of Egypt is neither modest nor objective nor unruffled. He is ignorant, cowardly and neurotic. The ancient Egyptians were Negroes. The moral fruit of their civilisation is to be counted among the assets of the Black world."

- Cheikh Anta Diop, The African Origin of Civilisation.


The Papyrus of Maihepri, Circa 3,400 BC



Maiherpri was buried in a Royal Tomb in the Valley of the Kings, the royal necropolis. The mummy was unwrapped in March 1901, revealing a very dark skin with woolly hair. In Maiherperi's tomb, a papyrus was found depicting him with literally "blackish" skin. The papyrus in question was the Egyptian Book of the Dead.



3 Medicine

''The earliest known surgery was performed in Egypt around 2750 BC.... The Ebers papyrus (1550 BC) is full of incantations and foul applications meant to turn away disease-causing demons, and also includes 877 prescriptions. It may also contain the earliest documented awareness of tumors..

Homer (800 BC) remarked in the Odyssey: "In Egypt, the men are more skilled in medicine than any of human kind" and "the Egyptians were skilled in medicine more than any other art". The Greek historian Herodotus visited Egypt around 440 BC and wrote extensively of his observations of their medicinal practices. Pliny the Elder also wrote favourably of them in historical review. Hippocrates (the 'father of medicine'), Herophilos, Erasistratus and later Galen studied at the temple of Amenhotep, and acknowledged the contribution of ancient Egyptian medicine to Greek medicine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_medicine



4 Architecture

The African empire of Egypt developed a vast array of diverse structures and great architectural monuments along the Nile, among the largest and most famous of which are the Great Pyramid of Giza and the Great Sphinx of Giza

The pyramids, which were built in the Fourth Dynasty, testify to the power of the pharaonic religion and state. They were built to serve both as grave sites and also as a way to make their names last forever. The size and simple design show the high skill level of Egyptian design and engineering on a large scale. The Great Pyramid of Giza, which was probably completed c. 2580 BC, is the oldest and largest of the pyramids, and is the only surviving monument of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. The pyramid of Khafre is believed to have been completed around 2532 BC, at the end of Khafre's reign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_architecture

THE GREAT SPHINX OF EGYPT

ESTIMATED DATE OF CONSTRUCTION: 10,500 BC





As this New York Times article describes the statue, ''This is an anatomical condition of forward development in both jaws, more frequently found in people of African ancestry than in those from Asian or Indo-European stock....Thus, the Sphinx is likely a facial representation of a black African.... facial soft-tissue analysis of this fabled man-lion would support a much earlier origin for the Sphinx, when Africans may have dominated the region.''

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/07/18/opinion/l-sphinx-may-really-be-a-black-african-408692.html



5 Mathematics

The invention of mathematics is placed firmly in African PRE-HISTORY.

''The oldest known possibly mathematical object is the Lebombo bone, discovered in the Lebombo mountains of Swaziland and dated to approximately 35,000 BC. It consists of 29 distinct notches cut into a baboon's fibula. Also prehistoric artifacts discovered in Africa and France, dated between 35,000 and 20,000 years old [respectively], suggest early attempts to quantify time.

The Ishango bone, found near the headwaters of the Nile river (northeastern Congo), may be as much as 20,000 years old and consists of a series of tally marks carved in three columns running the length of the bone. Common interpretations are that the Ishango bone shows either the earliest known demonstration of sequences of prime numbers or a six month lunar calendar.

Also, Predynastic Egyptians of the 5th millennium BC pictorially represented geometric designs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mathematics#Prehistoric_mathematics

''Numeral systems have been many and diverse, with the first known written numerals created by Egyptians in Middle Kingdom texts such as the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus.

The earliest uses of mathematics were in trading, land measurement, painting and weaving patterns and the recording of time. More complex mathematics did not appear until around 3000 BC, when the Egyptians and Babylonians began using arithmetic, algebra and geometry for taxation and other financial calculations, for building and construction, and for astronomy''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematics



6 Mining of minerals

The oldest known mine on archaeological record is the "Lion Cave" in Swaziland, which radiocarbon dating shows to be about 43,000 years old. Much later on, the Africans of Egypt mined malachite....Quarries for turquoise and copper were also found at "Wadi Hamamat, Tura, Aswan and various other Nubian sites"..The gold mines of Nubia were among the largest and most extensive in the world, and are described by the Greek author Diodorus Siculus. He mentions that fire-setting was one method used to break down the hard rock holding the gold. One of the complexes is shown in one of earliest known maps. They crushed the ore and ground it to a fine powder before washing the powder for the gold dust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining#Prehistoric_mining



7 Iron Smelting

Iron smelting is a form of extractive metallurgy; its main use is to produce a metal from its ore. This includes production of silver, iron, copper and other base metals from their ores. Smelting uses heat and a chemical reducing agent to decompose the ore, driving off other elements as gasses or slag and leaving just the metal behind.

Early iron smelting:

''Where and how iron smelting was discovered is widely debated, and remains uncertain due to the significant lack of production finds.. [but] there is a further possibility of iron smelting and working in West Africa by 1200 BC. In addition, very early instances of carbon steel were found to be in production around 2000 years before the present in northwest Tanzania, based on complex preheating principles. These discoveries are significant for the history of metallurgy.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelting


8 Religion

Greek historian Diodorus Siculus. From his own statements we learn that he traveled in Egypt around 60 BC. His travels in Egypt probably took him as far south as the first Cataract. He wrote about the ''Ethiopians'' south of Egypt.

"They further write that it was among them that people were first taught to honor the gods and offer sacrifices and arrange processions and festivals and perform other things by which people honor the divine. For this reason their piety is famous among all men, and the sacrifices among the Aithiopians are believed to be particularly pleasing to the divinity."


9 Laws

Stephanus of Byzantium, who is said to represent the opinions of the most ancient Greeks, says:

"Ethiopia was the first established country on the earth, and the Ethiopians were the first who introduced the worship of the Gods and who established laws."
Quoted by John D. Baldwin, Prehistoric Nations, p. 62.



10 International Trade


In 1825, Arnold Hermann Heeren (1760-1842), Professor of History and Politics in the University of Gottengen and one of the ablest of the early exponents of the economic interpretation of history, published, in the fourth and revised edition of his great work Ideen Uber Die Politik, Den Verkehr Und Den Handel Der Vornehmsten Volker Der Alten Weld, a lengthy essay on the history, culture, and commerce of the ancient Ethiopians, which had profound influence on contemporary writers in the conclusion that it was among these ancient Black people of Africa and Asia that international trade was first developed. He thinks that as a by-product of these international contacts there was an exchange of ideas and cultural practices that laid the foundations of the earliest civilizations of the ancient world. Heeren in his researches says: "From the remotest times to the present, the Ethiopians [ancient name for blacks south of the Sahara] have been one of the most celebrated, and yet the most mysterious of nations. In the earliest traditions of nearly all the..civilized nations of antiquity, the name of this distant people is found. The annals of the Egyptian priests are full of them, and the nations of inner Asia, on the Euphrates and Tigris, have interwoven the fictions of the Ethiopians with their traditions of the wars and conquests of their heroes; and, at a period equally remote, they glimmer in Greek mythology. When the Greeks scarcely knew Italy and Sicily by name, the Ethiopians were celebrated in the verses of their poets, and when the faint gleam of tradition and fable gives way to the clear light of history, the lustre of the Ethiopians is not diminished."

http://wysinger.homestead.com/blackegypt101.html


11 Philosophy

Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems, such as those connected with reality, existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language. Philosophy is distinguished from other ways of addressing such problems by its critical, generally systematic approach and its reliance on rational argument.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy#Ancient_philosophy

Philosophy in Africa has a rich and varied history, dating from pre-dynastic Egypt, continuing through the birth of Christianity and Islam. Arguably central to the ancients was the conception of "ma'at", which roughly translated refers to "justice", "truth", or simply "that which is right". One of the earliest works of political philosophy was the Maxims of Ptah-Hotep, which were taught to Egyptian schoolboys for centuries...Ancient Egyptian philosophers made extremely important contributions to Hellenistic philosophy, Christian philosophy, and Islamic philosophy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_philosophy

''Ancient Egyptian philosophy has been credited by the ancient Greeks as being the beginning of philosophy''.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_philosophy


12 Art

The oldest art objects in the world—a series of tiny, drilled snail shells about 75,000 years old—were discovered in a South African cave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art