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Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by amazemanuno: 8:12am On Jul 24, 2019
Season Film! ...watching u guys on my plasmaTV! grin grin
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by koolaid87: 8:13am On Jul 24, 2019
Only an undemocratic Bastard will disobey a court order.

Pharaoh Buhari, your days are numbered
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Soso990240(m): 8:15am On Jul 24, 2019
How sure are we dat u've not killed him? I doubt if he is still alive.
BTW, Buhari is against Shiites version of Muslim..
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by fabre4: 8:16am On Jul 24, 2019
nzeobi:
you don't want him realised cos your master enjoys sacrificing the shittes to his God's.
I used to support shites but what I've been hearing recently from christan residents of Zaria about the shites is astonishing.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by bigtt76(f): 8:18am On Jul 24, 2019
Can't they accelerate the appeal session ni? I'm sure the elections tribunal session would be accelerated for the pending cases and concluded before the El-Zakzakky case ....shameless people angry

Come out and tell us the truth ....he's under captivity because he's seen as a threat to national security just like Al Mustapha was incarcerated during Abdulsalami/Obasanjo/Yar'Adua era ....we know all these things joooooor


Antoeni:
The Special Adviser to the President on Media and Publicity, Mr Femi Adesina, says the Presidency has refused to obey Justice Gabriel Kolawole’s ruling, ordering the release of the leader of the Islamic Movement of Nigeria, Ibraheem El-Zakzakky, because it appealed the ruling.

Adesina said this during an interview on Channels Television’s Sunrise Daily on Tuesday.

The presidential spokesman said the then Attorney General of the Federation, Abubakar Malami (SAN), could have his reasons for doing so since the government had the right to appeal the bail.

He said, “I know that the immediate past AGF in whose purview it was to make pronouncements on that, addressed the issue. If bail is granted and another case subsists, and there is an immediate filing of an appeal, you have to wait till it is dispensed with. So, that is a legal matter which is outside my purview, but as a layman, an unlearned man as lawyers would call us, we know that until all cases are dispensed with, you don’t say that they have been concluded.”

Adesina said the matter had since been taken before a court in Kaduna State and the bail hearing would come up on Monday.

He, therefore, called on the sect to wait for the court to make its ruling.

Responding to allegations that the police should not have fired live bullets at the group which was protesting against the continued detention of their leader in Abuja on Monday, the spokesman said the police deserved commendation, adding that the death toll would have been higher if the force did not demonstrate restraint.


Adesina said, “I tell you despite what happened yesterday (Monday), if the police had responded with greater force, you know we would not be talking about what we are talking now.

“A deputy commissioner of police was killed. Very sad, that is one life just like any other life. He did not deserve to die in service.But if the police had responded in a similar fashion, you would have been talking of rivers of blood in Abuja now.”


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Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Nobody: 8:21am On Jul 24, 2019
sparog:
Now the sect don dey use gun very soon it will be suicide bombers

Keep holding their leader and turn dem into anoda insurgent group
Correct your statement that dey (Shiites) use gun, the DCP was shot from the back of his head not from the shiite as their lies goes. The deceased officer was hurriedly buried without post mortem to ascertain who is behind his killing, look at protest in Hong Kong, phillipines, Puerto Rico and that of France last year, none of their officers used live ammunition to disperse protesters only in Nigeria we can hear such madness.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by contigiency(m): 8:25am On Jul 24, 2019
emilas1979:
Had to smash my television because of the lies emanating from his gutters yesterday morning watching him.
Femi was among the major problem we faced during change.
And here we have him again in the NEXT LEVEL.
Indeed there was a country.
Stop speaking in vague, be specific and tell us what is not true in what he said. Is it that the matter was not appealed as he said or that the hearing is not coming on Monday. Please be fast with the clarifications.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by DonBenny77(m): 8:26am On Jul 24, 2019
Fell, posterity won't be kind to you
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by delishpot: 8:32am On Jul 24, 2019
Flyingngel:
For Adesina whose editorial comments in the Sun newspaper those days was always pointing out the ills of government could be in bed now with a government of this magnitude left much to desire.
i know it is all because of money: 99% of Nigerians don't have moral burden when money and power is involved.
Immediately, he is relieved of the position, he will be like Ruben Abati very active on social media.
Next election when Atiku enters the office, things would change. This season is designed for Nigerians to wake up to the negatives our nation operates in. See After Buhari.....Nigerians will naturally fix their country with their own hands. Note that what is happening today is not tied to Buhari. If Atiku had worn, nothing would have changed.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by ajebuter(f): 8:35am On Jul 24, 2019
What I know is …

Those who sow evil will reap evil in the end..
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by sparog(m): 8:36am On Jul 24, 2019
dirtydiva:
Correct your statement that dey (Shiites) use gun, the DCP was shot from the back of his head not from the shiite as their lies goes. The deceased officer was hurriedly buried without post mortem to ascertain who is behind his killing, look at protest in Hong Kong, phillipines, Puerto Rico and that of France last year, none of their officers used live ammunition to disperse protesters only in Nigeria we can hear such madness.
Well we can't be so sure who is actually speaking the truth btw the police and the Shiite protesters but that aside, my point is that government should do something to resolve this issue before it turns to something else
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by badman007(m): 8:36am On Jul 24, 2019
If there is any justice in the world, Buhari would be the one in Jail.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Livefreeordieha(m): 8:42am On Jul 24, 2019
backnbeta:
Lies flying out without restraints undecided
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Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by badman007(m): 8:45am On Jul 24, 2019
lonelydora:
I am Indifferent on this El-Zakzaky issue. If his members can fight this way when he's not around, just imagine what will happen when he is released and fights from the front? Those guys are deadly. They took their 'madness' to an all-time high when they blocked COAS.

Whoever that has stayed in Zaria will understand what I'm saying.


On the other hand, if presidency continues to detain him, the protest will continue and more people will die. Stray bullet has no direction and knows no one. It can hit anyone.

I am just confused.
Very weak argument. You know right from wrong. Don't support injustice and wickedness in the name of confusion.

Nigeria is not a Sunni country. There has to be religious freedom. If the Shiite choose to worship their Allah through Ali's dick, let them! Both sects are stupid anyway. Especially the so called christians who can remain indifferent when their brothers house is on fire.

Shame shame shame..
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Stonerobaba(m): 8:49am On Jul 24, 2019
Combination of Femi and Lai can crush a nation.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Nobody: 8:58am On Jul 24, 2019
sparog:
Well we can't be so sure who is actually speaking the truth btw the police and the Shiite protesters but that aside, my point is that government should do something to resolve this issue before it turns to something else
The only thing ds protesters wants to hear is for their leader to be release, court hv ordered for his release but govt still went and file for an appeal for his release showing dat dey (govt) hv a hidden agenda towards his continuous detention just like Dasuki
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Antoeni(op): 9:05am On Jul 24, 2019
GOV. EL-RUFAI ON EL-ZAKZAKY AND THE SHI'ITE THREAT-

"There are three Shi'a groups in Kaduna.
Only El-Zakzaky disciples are terrorists, consist of thugs who don't recognize the President, the Governor and even the Constitution of Nigeria as a sovereign.
Their allegiance is to a foreign country. So, they are not more than foreigners and would be treated as such.
If anyone is considered a threat to the security of Nigeria as a sovereign entity, such a person or persons would be put away.
El-Zakzaky was my mate at Ahmadu Bello University before he was expelled. So, I know the 'animal' I'm dealing with.
You cannot blackmail the government. El-Zakzaky would face the law at the appropriate time."
-El rufai
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by maasoap(m): 9:06am On Jul 24, 2019
Boyooosa:
2 years plus and u r just coming up with bail hearing on Monday. Sad! Why did u need to wait this long, why did u wait till protest hapenned, why did u need to wait till people died, now u r coming up with Monday bail hearing theory. Sad Again!
Fine, you filed an appeal, when did the appeal come up? Why has the case not been heard since, common, you guys need to sit up. If not, Nigerians will believe that its only violence language you guys understand and it will crash the whole system if care is not taken. Haba Mana!
The judiciary sef is not helping the situation, I dont even know what they are doing in that department, just to intimidate the commoners with their scary regalia.
Just know that common sense has fallen on them, the man will be released soon, most likely.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Levant: 9:08am On Jul 24, 2019
fabre4:
I used to support shites but what I've been hearing recently from christan residents of Zaria about the shites is astonishing.
That is very ungrateful and untrue.

When buhari's Sunni fanatics were randomly targeting Christians in the post election violence of 2011 in Kaduna, it was Zakzaky and his Shi'ite guys that gave refugee to Christians and shielded them. My very own brother, a father of five children almost lost his life if not for the Shi'ite guys who came to his rescue and freed him from those animals who lynched him and wanted to kill him. I will be forever grateful to those guys. The govt and Sunnis, known for their chronic lies, want to paint these guys bad. They are not bad or extremists. They have had too much abuse and brute force meted on them. Let them be free to practice their religion. Enough is enough.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Levant: 9:10am On Jul 24, 2019
Antoeni:
GOV. EL-RUFAI ON EL-ZAKZAKY AND THE SHI'ITE THREAT-

"There are three Shi'a groups in Kaduna.
Only El-Zakzaky disciples are terrorists, consist of thugs who don't recognize the President, the Governor and even the Constitution of Nigeria as a sovereign.
Their allegiance is to a foreign country. So, they are not more than foreigners and would be treated as such.
If anyone is considered a threat to the security of Nigeria as a sovereign entity, such a person or persons would be put away.
El-Zakzaky was my mate at Ahmadu Bello University before he was expelled. So, I know the 'animal' I'm dealing with.
You cannot blackmail the government. El-Zakzaky would face the law at the appropriate time."
-El rufai
This hypocrite rushed to condole with Zakzaky in 2014 when there was a road block incident in 2014 with an army patrol vehicle that led to the killing of three sons of Zakzaky. He was jubilating that Zakzaky rejected Jonathan's apology. Shameless midget.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by maasoap(m): 9:11am On Jul 24, 2019
lonelydora:
I am Indifferent on this El-Zakzaky issue. If his members can fight this way when he's not around, just imagine what will happen when he is released and fights from the front?
Which front? The who is already dieing

Those guys are deadly. They took their 'madness' to an all-time high when they blocked COAS.
They didn't block COAS, they blocked the road which is a common occurence in Nigeria and COAS just happened to be passing through that road on that day.

Whoever that has stayed in Zaria will understand what I'm saying.


On the other hand, if presidency continues to detain him, the protest will continue and more people will die. Stray bullet has no direction and knows no one. It can hit anyone.

I am just confused.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by connkg(m): 9:15am On Jul 24, 2019
Will Mr. Adesina please do well to furnish the public with the dates the bail was granted and when the other cases were instituted?
Highlighting Monday makes better sense when we assess the FG's presence at other hearings during the time period.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by izombie(m): 9:16am On Jul 24, 2019
tesppidd:
Mischievous Op.

The first BOLDED is the reason you have started with and highlighted because that's the one you want people to see.

But the second BOLDED is the real reason why he's been held.

Legal minds know that when a suspect is held on multiple charges, a bail given on one charge does not cover all the other charges until bail is given for them.
liar. If you facing one thousand charges contained in one docket and you apply for bail, the bail is for all charges. If bail is granted, you are released. Bail is not a trial where you are tried for each count.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Just2endowed2(m): 9:20am On Jul 24, 2019
Antoeni:
Islam doesn’t support the act of violence. You can’t turn Nigeria to what you have turned part of Middle East. Islam teaches us to respect and obey the constituted authority and prayer for the success of our leaders. Please do not turn Nigeria to Syria, Afghanistan, Libya and others. For what happened on Monday,you need miracle to release the leader of these religious fanatics by Buhari.
We don hear
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by sapientia(m): 9:51am On Jul 24, 2019
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Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Basher8583: 9:51am On Jul 24, 2019
koolaid87:
Only an undemocratic Bastard will disobey a court order.

Pharaoh Buhari, your days are numbered
I dont understand how you illiterates think.
Was the judgement at the Supreme courts level?
Was the bail order not appealable?
These are answers I need you to answer me NOW
So what is undemocratic there.
If you like Zakzaky that much why not join his followers in protest. Hypocrite
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Boyooosa(m): 10:01am On Jul 24, 2019
maasoap:
Just know that common sense has fallen on them, the man will be released soon, most likely.
Even at that, the man in custody is highly dangerous to release to the society because of history and security reports but my concern is; the government is not going the technical way around it. Sad!
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by tiwiex(m): 10:21am On Jul 24, 2019
lonelydora:
I am Indifferent on this El-Zakzaky issue. If his members can fight this way when he's not around, just imagine what will happen when he is released and fights from the front? Those guys are deadly. They took their 'madness' to an all-time high when they blocked COAS.

Whoever that has stayed in Zaria will understand what I'm saying.


On the other hand, if presidency continues to detain him, the protest will continue and more people will die. Stray bullet has no direction and knows no one. It can hit anyone.

I am just confused.
How many people did he kill before he was detained? It's just a case of staying on your lane. I think this looks like a battle of one sect vs another sect. He seems to have been turned into a threat by disobeying the court order. I think government silently caved in to common sense with this appeal hearing. However, the harm had already been done.
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by BarristerGwam: 10:25am On Jul 24, 2019
First, I'm disappointed with the fact that the respect for the Judiciary is going down the drain and there are repercussions. Mr. Adesina, the constitution guarantees botht right to freedom of expression and movement. We have come to the point that we count deaths of our citizens in numbers because there is no more sanctity of human life in Nigeria. What a shame! The same people that surrendered their rights to the Government for a collective good are been killed by the Government. What a shame! The Shiites movement has been on for years and have always had their processions as an expression of their right to freedom of movement. The Government knows this as their sacred religious process. Mr Buratai, with due respect, can u justify killing one Nigerian for blocking a road u want to pass through. Remember u met them on the road. Will u justify using the Nigerian Army under your leadership to kill Nigerians for blocking your passage. To my fellow Nairalanders, if a man should block your way, will u be justified to kill the man and the law not catch up with u? Mind u the army met them on their regular procession and the procession was not targeted at them. In our villages we often respect our traditionalist with their masquerades to sometimes obstruct our chosen routes without bloodshed. Now think of how many Nigerians lost their life on that fateful day. The army could have taken another route and save us of the bloodshed. If that was not possible, we have several ways of dealing with crowds and life bullets/ammunitions is completely out of it. We know better. Do we still have equality of life in Nigeria? If we do, then the life of the president, Mr Buratai or Mr Femi is no different. The bloodshed could have been prevented. Now after the blood bath, the Shiite leader and his wife have been in custody for 4 years now. Well, for what offence? Beware some Nigerians see the Shiites as the victim and demand justice for them. The continuous incarceration has earned them the sympathy of more Nigerians. Finally, bail is a constitutional right of every Nigerian. The essence of bail is for the accused to attend to his case. The continuous refusal to obey court orders and intimadation of the Judiciary will only end up turning Nigeria to full wide Zoo. May God forbid!
Re: Why We Haven’t Released El-zakzakky – Presidency by Joystark(f): 10:29am On Jul 24, 2019
This matter is like having a bee on your scrotum.
You can't kill it.
You can't leave it.
You can't move either.

Who the heck knows how the bee got there. undecided
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