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Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by odedinigbin(m): 11:23am On Jul 24, 2019
aiyeboy:
Like play like play RUGA go divide naija.


I sell phones and gadgets sha
You no sabi road to Onitsha ba?
Carry dis ur yeye china phone commot for here jare
No con divide naija with virus fone
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by LLMG: 11:33am On Jul 24, 2019
The fg doesn't see any wrong with that, it's problem is those refusing ruga.
Whatsittoyah:
Coming to think of it why do these herdsman kill people in their own farm, and then feed their crops to cows.
I mean those crops are food people eat to survive, some even
Sell their produce in order to feed them selves and their family
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by SUMMIE23(m): 11:36am On Jul 24, 2019
Obaseki will not get APC ticket to recontest . eventually he will decamp and might winhuh?
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by LLMG: 11:39am On Jul 24, 2019
And the farmers went about killing their host. I wonder when you people and fg will talk about the punishment to be given to killer herdsmen and their sponsors.
GoodGovernance:
Mischievous views like these are very unfortunate.
and sad.

The more reason why peace will continue to elude us.


Anywhere in the world,the struggle for land and space will continue to cause war and deaths.Only negotiations and concessions are the key solutions.

The governors should stop playing second term politics and face the reality of inevitable concessions ,for peace and progress.

Sometimes I wonder whether some people are happy with senseless killings going on our father land undecided


Is it every herdman that can afford an individual ranch?

There are various farm settlements provided by state governments across the nation.Why can't government provide RUGA for herdsmen?

Sentiments will continue to kill us in this country!
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by LLMG: 11:51am On Jul 24, 2019
Will the header allow his host in the South live in peace without killing him and feeding his crops to cows?. The southern farmers in the North are they killing and maiming their host committees.do answer.
GoodGovernance:
if farming is not restricted to the north,why should herding be restricted to the north?


Sentiments will continue to kill us in this country undecided



So herding is only meant for the north abi?



A south based northerner should go back to the north because he has chosen to be a herder in the south,abi?
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by DonJossydirich(m): 11:53am On Jul 24, 2019
Waw! I love this governor. Gov.Oba,the only Oba,that I know.#NORUGAINNIGER-DELTA
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by LLMG: 11:58am On Jul 24, 2019
Obaseki so far has shown that he has the people's interest at heart and the people are happy with him, sentiment or not. Everyone is sentimental when it comes to protecting their own interests.
Damod88:
Nigerians are primitive people who only get excited when tribal issues come up. They are more or less like monkeys. Only the reasonable will understand that Obaseki is saying all these to win the support of Edo people in the wake of his political struggle with Oshimole. Nigerian politicians are good psychologists.They know what to do to deflect off attention from their misrule. It is a typical divide and rule tactics.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by LLMG: 11:59am On Jul 24, 2019
It can't and won't happen.
executive12:
So you want Edo to be taken over by the Fulani herdsmen?
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by ernieboy(m): 12:07pm On Jul 24, 2019
iammo:
grin



Mumu empty political talk.... everyone.collectively rejected RUGA and it.was suspended, why is he just waking up a sleeping dog with.his comment


...
ode he was delivering a lecture, read u won't and when u do manage to read, comprehension seems to be difficult.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by wonder233: 12:11pm On Jul 24, 2019
You shouldn't have replied this comment.
In trying to sound smart, you just exposed how very basic your IQ is...and this is the major problem facing this country, cos unlike illiterates-illiterates, educated illiterates are very difficult to enlighten.
Ctorch:
Story.

Stop the denial

This is a literate age where u have to belong somewhere.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by LLMG: 12:16pm On Jul 24, 2019
They can't see it because they have chosen to ignore the truth and pretend that what is is not.
mastermaestro:
You are too myopic to see the larger picture. Ruga is a jihadist crusade to invade, take over and subjugate other ethnic groups who happen to be mostly Christians. If you don't know this, then you need help. Unless of course you are part of them.
Ruga is a tribal and religious crusade. They have no place in Christian communities across Nigeria. Any state idiotic enough to cede lands to them, their people will become slaves in their own indigenous lands in the near future.

NO TO RUGA!
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by LLMG: 12:22pm On Jul 24, 2019
The headers by their actions so far are responsible for the rejection and hatred towards them.
GoodGovernance:
Very illogical reasoning.

We are talking of farming here and the urgent need to stop senseless deaths,not housing.

States governments have been supporting farmers through provision of farm settlements.So why not for herders?

Not every herder is rich enough to afford individual ranch .RUGA is just like a farm settlement or group ranch,nothing more.


Your outburst is just an epitome of top level ignorance and ethnic hatred,nothing more.Who told you RUGA would be free for the herders?But the fact is that,it will be cheaper than having an individual ranch.

A lot of IGR awaits any sensible state government that can grab the opportunity.

For your information I am not a northerner but a sensible and non ethnocentric Nigerian.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by bizhop01: 12:31pm On Jul 24, 2019
Charleys:
This is why Adams oshiomhole should have taken over the house of Assembly.

Adams oshiomhole really messed up.
Lagos is different from other states
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Mrexcell(m): 12:32pm On Jul 24, 2019
Astark:
The Governor of Edo State, Godwin Obaseki said his administration will not avail the federal government land for the contentious Ruga settlement in Edo State.

The Governor spoke while giving a lecture on the topic “Challenges of Pastoralism and International Migration for Sustainable Peace and Development: Edo State Experience” at the Department of State Services Institute of Security Studies (Executive Intelligent Management Course 12), in Abuja.

He said the narrative that the pastoral movement and farmer/headers clashes are not related to the security challenges in Nigeria is not true.

His words: “In Edo State, we have found so-called herdsmen with maps in the forests, they clearly cannot be herdsmen who are dependent on their livelihood from their animal assets; that cannot be.

“I think it is important in the context of this discourse to make that distinction between conflict as a result of economic activities, separate from deliberate conflict that is related to other issues like insurgency and terrorism.”

The Governor said over the years the state has had issues of pastoralists or herdsmen who have come to parts of the South, Edo State using grazing routes and mixing with locals.

“Our approach is, animal husbandry is a business just like we have poultry, piggery or what have you, so from that perspective, we want to now upgrade agricultural practices as it relates to livestock.

“During the era of General Babangida, he set up ranches in Edo; we have one in Igarra and several parts of the state. They are either privatized or left fallow, so we are talking to people who purchased them to see how they can be re-activated.

“For us, because it is business like any other private business, the state should not really have much to except we create an enabling environment for those people we want to invest in livestock business.

“So, the issue of giving state land for livestock, it won’t happen in Edo State.

“However, for individuals who have land and they want to go into livestock business like we are supporting people who are doing cassava and others, we as government will support them.”

On how to resolve the incessant herders/farmers conflict, he said: “The Sambisa Grazing Reserve (4800 ha) is an ideal and symbolic place to take-off by establishing a ranch run by the military.

“It would significantly improve the security situation in the zone and encourage cooperation between pastoralists and the military.
“In the North West, the military should also be encouraged to create ranches in the Gidan Jaja Grazing Reserve (565,000 ha) for the same purpose of improving security and cooperation with pastoralists,” the Governor said.

Obaseki said violent extremism, recurrent herder-farmer conflicts, cattle rustling, armed banditry, violent cross-border crimes, insurgency, illegal migration and other forms of crimes have “threaten the fabric of our country. ”

According to him, national cohesion is seriously threatened by the conflict “as many farmers and pastoralists have lost their lives and property in several orgies of violence.

“As we gather here for this lecture, so many Nigerians are living in fear of attack or reprisal attacks due to the growing herders-farmers’ conflict,” he said.

http://www.signalng.com/ruga-will-not-happen-in-edo-state-sambisa-forest-a-better-option-obaseki/
Nice one from the governor the jihad uthman dan fodio couldn't achieve in the 18th century the decendants of dan fodio wants to now achieve it by using ruga fulani settlements.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Arsenalholic(m): 12:38pm On Jul 24, 2019
Ctorch:
Let's not deviate the beautiful thread because I have seen you don't want to see reasons.


Obaseki is right and shouldn't be distracted by godfather's

Pdp is on standby watching..
You're not distracting anything here, bros.

Yoruba and Edo state are not the same. Never will they be.

Never make such a mistake in your life lumping them together, ever again!
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Nobody: 1:18pm On Jul 24, 2019
He's absolutely right..
They should give them sambisa forest..
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by lawbereau(m): 1:21pm On Jul 24, 2019
iammo:
grin



Mumu empty political talk.... everyone.collectively rejected RUGA and it.was suspended, why is he just waking up a sleeping dog with.his comment


...
Suspended Oga, not annulled.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Nobody: 1:28pm On Jul 24, 2019
Very wise talk, since we have The Sambisa Grazing Reserve (4800 ha) FG should utilise it for the fulani cattle herders. Edo people will provide our meat for our people.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Nobody: 1:37pm On Jul 24, 2019
UnitedFront:
Sambisa Forest! Boko Haram abode! We're no longer one in this country. It is one thing to say "there is no land for Ruga in my state", it is entirely different thing to suggest to your fellow citizens to move to Sambisa forest.
There is The Sambisa Grazing Reserve (4800 ha) in the Sambissa axis. A barracks/outpost, can be created there...you want us to leave our country for the terrorist?
Sambissa is a forest/game reserve, it belongs to Nigeria, not the terrorists.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Ctorch: 1:42pm On Jul 24, 2019
Arsenalholic:
You're not distracting anything here, bros.

Yoruba and Edo state are not the same. Never will they be.

Never make such a mistake in your life lumping them together, ever again!
Hmmmm


This one strong ooo
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jul 24, 2019
Ctorch:
I watched obaseki interview and he was telling his supporters that out of the whole of SE/SS, he is the only APC government.


Seems the man wants to join his people over in pdp...Edo state you welcome to PDP.

So that finally SE/SS will be locked down for pdp....

But you know Edo state are Yoruba, so I think they will prefer to remain in APC with their brothers in SW.........is still okay...... blood is thicker than water.
If you know history, and know about the Benin empire... before they called the Benin Kings 'Oba', we had the Ogiso era, that existed about 1500years ago, before that the Edo people has existed in the rain forest of the Southern area of Nigeria for over 6000years...Christ died 2000years ago, so show some respect.

Some history: It is said that the origin of Benin monarch which is in tune with the origin of its people date back to Ogiso Igodo who was reputed to have begun his reign in the year 900 AD. According to R.G Armstrong in his book “The Study of West Africa languages” the glotto-chronological period of separation between Edo, Yoruba and Ibo has been put between 3,000 and 6,000 years. It is no wonder therefore that prof. A.F.C Ryder aptly wrote about the Edo, that “Linguistic evidence suggests that they have occupied this region for some thousands of years”. P .Amway Talbot confirmed that about the seventh millennium BC, the Edo (Benin) and Ewe (popo) and then the Ibo, followed maybe about thee second millennium BC by the earliest Yoruba”. These suggestions give strong indications that Benin Civilization has grow over a period of some 6000 years if not more.

https://kwekudee-tripdownmemorylane..com/2013/06/edo-people-africas-most-popular-and.html?m=1
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Mavor: 1:47pm On Jul 24, 2019
Astark:
Edo state is Yoruba? I think you don't have sense. How is Edo Yoruba?
Dont mind the clown. I am not Edo or Yoruba, but I know history and I just laugh at Yoruba elder's attempt to re-write. A castaway Edo prince founded Ife and the Yoruba empire but they dont teach this in Yoruba schools.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jul 24, 2019
Mavor:
Dont mind the clown. I am not Edo or Yoruba, but I know history and I just laugh at Yoruba elder's attempt to re-write. A castaway Edo prince founded, Ile' Ife and the Yoruba empire but they dont teach this in Yoruba schools.
Some people are indeed ignorant my friend, how can a son give birth to his father...lol
Edo People have existed, speaking their language and developing themselves as a people for thousands of years before the first Yoruba kingdom Ife emerged. Before the 'Oba' monarchy, there was the Ogiso era, the great Ogodomigodo. Let's keep doing the good work of sharing enlightenment. Nice one.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Nobody: 1:55pm On Jul 24, 2019
GoodGovernance:
Second term political statement.

What is wrong with having Rural Grazing Area in EDO,to cater for many herdsmen that cannot afford individual cattle ranch?

We want peace, yet we do not want to make sacrifice and concessions .So the senseless clashes and killings should continue.

RUGA or no RUGA,Nigerian herdsmen have the right to leave and move to any part of Nigeria.

So why all these rubbish antagonisms?

The bitter truth is Land ,any where in the world, is a source of conflicts,war and deaths.
Get out!

So I refuse to give you bloodthirsty demons land, the killings will continue?

Who are those perpetrating the killings?

No land for you barbarians.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by excessemma: 2:55pm On Jul 24, 2019
Ctorch:
I watched obaseki interview and he was telling his supporters that out of the whole of SE/SS, he is the only APC government.


Seems the man wants to join his people over in pdp...Edo state you welcome to PDP.

So that finally SE/SS will be locked down for pdp....

But you know Edo state are Yoruba, so I think they will prefer to remain in APC with their brothers in SW.........is still okay...... blood is thicker than water.
Now this isn't funny bro. Edo isn't Yoruba. Please take note. Thank you!
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by osazsky(m): 3:04pm On Jul 24, 2019
Karatum:
The Fulani's/herdsmen don't pay taxes.
who needs the taxes of rapist and killers,,,they should take thier tax to our afonja slaves,,,we dont need it in d south,,,how much dem they pay,,,killing and paying technique na him dem one come they use nonsrnce get out of here
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Ttipsy(f): 3:14pm On Jul 24, 2019
now this getting interesting
governor wey sabi
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Amumaigwe: 3:33pm On Jul 24, 2019
Damod88:
Your argument is laced with a heavy dose of tribalism. Ruga was proposed to solve herder/farmers crisis. The federal government never tried to imposed it on any state contrary to what people are saying. I understand the feelings of Nigerians towards Ruga,but it is totally wrong to suggest that the states were forced to accept it. As you claim, what then is the meaning of being forced to accept Ruga when the various state governors are exercising their rights to reget it?The federal government has suspended Ruga and moved on,so I don't understand why the governors are still saying it. Perhaps some of the governors want to use it for political gains. If the governors have exerted the same amount of energy they are exerting on Ruga of a thing on building their states, Nigeria would have moved forward. No development occurs in a society where both the rulers and the ruled are foolish. As a people our IQs are just to low to build and innovate.
@bolded: You lied. Was Governor Orthom carried along before the Ministry of Agriculture mobilized to site to commence the construction of RUGA settlement in Benue State?
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by rosebowl01(m): 4:42pm On Jul 24, 2019
nzeobi:
states with comparative advantage in cattle rearing should build ruga and enjoy whatever benefits attached to it.
Exactly! You bless for this statement.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Nowenuse: 5:00pm On Jul 24, 2019
Sonfethopia:
Edo state, there are five major ethnic groups — Bini (Edo), Afemai, Esan, Owan and Akoko-Edo. However, Bini-speaking people occupy the most local governments in the state — seven out of 18 LGAs.
You don't know Edo well. Afemai comprises of Etsako, Owan & Akoko-edo. It's the general name for Edo north.

Besides, Akoko Edo is not a single tribe, there are different tribes there.
Re: Obaseki: RUGA Will Not Happen In Edo State, Sambisa Forest A Better Option by Sonfethopia: 5:17pm On Jul 24, 2019
Nowenuse:
You don't know Edo well. Afemai comprises of Etsako, Owan & Akoko-edo. It's the general name for Edo north.

Besides, Akoko Edo is not a single tribe, there are different tribes there.
Im.trying to say there r no yoruba in edo
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