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hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains
VO - faces hubby with same question
HUBBY - work at a corporate office with detail
VO - types and starts murmuring looks like he couldn't find any error on our document
VO- turns to the baby and ask why she was not an applicant
I - she's a citizen
vo - can i have your receipts and did you inform the embassy of your intent
we - yes we did and handed the intent later along side receipt and told him a total of $7500 bill was fully paid
vo - so you got a discount
we - no we did not, there's a zero bal inside the envelope stating we paid all there was
VO - why did you get a discount
I - was furious but kept my cool and said againg that there was no discount
VO - kept insisting about the discount (infact mention it 3 times) like his mind was made up about the discount and asked what state we had the child
VO - looks up and said NJ birthing bill was usually $17,000 so paying $7,500 was dicounted
VO - -hands over the blue paper

you see, all we incured including uber, housing, feeding, scan, blood works etc was totalling $15,000. should we have added all these expenses as birthing?. When the hospital billed us as self payfor 2 nights should i have asked them to increase my bill? I really need closure to this rejection. if he had said that we did not make our intent clear from the time of application, that would have been understood. Hubby says we should move on and try uk cos we want to take the kids on vaca but i want to explore the usa more since that is where my business is sourced from. and i also feel that if we do not clear the air about this discount, we would keep facing it or what do you think guys? Do we stand a chance if we re-apply?

kamee:
hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains
VO - faces hubby with same question
HUBBY - work at a corporate office with detail
VO - types and starts murmuring looks like he couldn't find any error on our document
VO- turns to the baby and ask why she was not an applicant
I - she's a citizen
vo - can i have your receipts and did you inform the embassy of your intent
we - yes we did and handed the intent later along side receipt and told him a total of $7500 bill was fully paid
vo - so you got a discount
we - no we did not, there's a zero bal inside the envelope stating we paid all there was
VO - why did you get a discount
I - was furious but kept my cool and said againg that there was no discount
VO - kept insisting about the discount (infact mention it 3 times) like his mind was made up about the discount and asked what state we had the child
VO - looks up and said NJ birthing bill was usually $17,000 so paying $7,500 was dicounted
VO - -hands over the blue paper

you see, all we incured including uber, housing, feeding, scan, blood works etc was totalling $15,000. should we have added all these expenses as birthing?. When the hospital billed us as self payfor 2 nights should i have asked them to increase my bill? I really need closure to this rejection. if he had said that we did not make our intent clear from the time of application, that would have been understood. Hubby says we should move on and try uk cos we want to take the kids on vaca but i want to explore the usa more since that is where my business is sourced from. and i also feel that if we do not clear the air about this discount, we would keep facing it or what do you think guys? Do we stand a chance if we re-apply?

Chai, it seems the VO knows what it cost to birth in NJ hence the repetition from him / her on the word "DISCOUNTS ", re-applying might not solve the problem as long as the underlying issue of the word "discounts"is not resolved from your end, which might mean contacting the hospital and pay off the discount they offered you, the US are not smiling at all this period

kamee:
hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains
VO - faces hubby with same question
HUBBY - work at a corporate office with detail
VO - types and starts murmuring looks like he couldn't find any error on our document
VO- turns to the baby and ask why she was not an applicant
I - she's a citizen
vo - can i have your receipts and did you inform the embassy of your intent
we - yes we did and handed the intent later along side receipt and told him a total of $7500 bill was fully paid
vo - so you got a discount
we - no we did not, there's a zero bal inside the envelope stating we paid all there was
VO - why did you get a discount
I - was furious but kept my cool and said againg that there was no discount
VO - kept insisting about the discount (infact mention it 3 times) like his mind was made up about the discount and asked what state we had the child
VO - looks up and said NJ birthing bill was usually $17,000 so paying $7,500 was dicounted
VO - -hands over the blue paper

you see, all we incured including uber, housing, feeding, scan, blood works etc was totalling $15,000. should we have added all these expenses as birthing?. When the hospital billed us as self payfor 2 nights should i have asked them to increase my bill? I really need closure to this rejection. if he had said that we did not make our intent clear from the time of application, that would have been understood. Hubby says we should move on and try uk cos we want to take the kids on vaca but i want to explore the usa more since that is where my business is sourced from. and i also feel that if we do not clear the air about this discount, we would keep facing it or what do you think guys? Do we stand a chance if we re-apply?

Get a letter from the doctor and hospital stating that the price is available to all non-insured self-paying patients (not just international). The letter should also state no govt funds (Medicaid) are used. This would contradict what the officer is saying and would be from the doctor and the hospital, which they can always call to verify (but usually they don't want to know so they don't call). If you are rejected afterward you will know it's bureaucratic racism, and not the "discounted price" some use as an excuse. In this sense, you would be in a position to do something legal if you wanted to.

The best advice is to go prepared with both documents ahead of time, and if they use the "discounted price" line on you, you have official documentation that states the contrary in the moment of the interview. Always, know the documentation you are carrying to the interview and don't just wait until they ask for it if they start to reject you for that reason. Best wishes.

Vlesparza:
Get a letter from the doctor and hospital stating that the price is available to all non-insured self-paying patients (not just international). The letter should also state no govt funds (Medicaid) are used. This would contradict what the officer is saying and would be from the doctor and the hospital, which they can always call to verify (but usually they don't want to know so they don't call). If you are rejected afterward you will know it's bureaucratic racism, and not the "discounted price" some use as an excuse. In this sense, you would be in a position to do something legal if you wanted to. Best wishes.

We all know that getting a US non-immigrants visa is a privilege and not a right.

So getting a legal approach to it might still not get one the results one is hoping for too.

In this case the whole family is travelling to the US and so that makes them very vulnerable of weak ties to Nigeria

Even though the VO's kept on emphasizing on the medical discount that might have been used as a camouflage for cover-up for other reasons for the visa denial.

kamee:
hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains
VO - faces hubby with same question
HUBBY - work at a corporate office with detail
VO - types and starts murmuring looks like he couldn't find any error on our document
VO- turns to the baby and ask why she was not an applicant
I - she's a citizen
vo - can i have your receipts and did you inform the embassy of your intent
we - yes we did and handed the intent later along side receipt and told him a total of $7500 bill was fully paid
vo - so you got a discount
we - no we did not, there's a zero bal inside the envelope stating we paid all there was
VO - why did you get a discount
I - was furious but kept my cool and said againg that there was no discount
VO - kept insisting about the discount (infact mention it 3 times) like his mind was made up about the discount and asked what state we had the child
VO - looks up and said NJ birthing bill was usually $17,000 so paying $7,500 was dicounted
VO - -hands over the blue paper

you see, all we incured including uber, housing, feeding, scan, blood works etc was totalling $15,000. should we have added all these expenses as birthing?. When the hospital billed us as self payfor 2 nights should i have asked them to increase my bill? I really need closure to this rejection. if he had said that we did not make our intent clear from the time of application, that would have been understood. Hubby says we should move on and try uk cos we want to take the kids on vaca but i want to explore the usa more since that is where my business is sourced from. and i also feel that if we do not clear the air about this discount, we would keep facing it or what do you think guys? Do we stand a chance if we re-apply?

noting in amerika is free, when you get a discount, the hospital pass the cost off to other people, usually tax payers

the idea of cash discount is a ploy hospitals use to make sure dey get some money out of foreigners who have no insurance who would otherwise pay nothing

Vlesparza:
Get a letter from the doctor and hospital stating that the price is available to all non-insured self-paying patients (not just international). The letter should also state no govt funds (Medicaid) are used. This would contradict what the officer is saying and would be from the doctor and the hospital, which they can always call to verify (but usually they don't want to know so they don't call). If you are rejected afterward you will know it's bureaucratic racism, and not the "discounted price" some use as an excuse. In this sense, you would be in a position to do something legal if you wanted to.

The best advice is to go prepared with both documents ahead of time, and if they use the "discounted price" line on you, you have official documentation that states the contrary in the moment of the interview. Always, know the documentation you are carrying to the interview and don't just wait until they ask for it if they start to reject you for that reason. Best wishes.

Waste of money and time, you can't sue any embassy just because they refused you a visa.

kamee:
hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains
VO - faces hubby with same question
HUBBY - work at a corporate office with detail
VO - types and starts murmuring looks like he couldn't find any error on our document
VO- turns to the baby and ask why she was not an applicant
I - she's a citizen
vo - can i have your receipts and did you inform the embassy of your intent
we - yes we did and handed the intent later along side receipt and told him a total of $7500 bill was fully paid
vo - so you got a discount
we - no we did not, there's a zero bal inside the envelope stating we paid all there was
VO - why did you get a discount
I - was furious but kept my cool and said againg that there was no discount
VO - kept insisting about the discount (infact mention it 3 times) like his mind was made up about the discount and asked what state we had the child
VO - looks up and said NJ birthing bill was usually $17,000 so paying $7,500 was dicounted
VO - -hands over the blue paper

you see, all we incured including uber, housing, feeding, scan, blood works etc was totalling $15,000. should we have added all these expenses as birthing?. When the hospital billed us as self payfor 2 nights should i have asked them to increase my bill? I really need closure to this rejection. if he had said that we did not make our intent clear from the time of application, that would have been understood. Hubby says we should move on and try uk cos we want to take the kids on vaca but i want to explore the usa more since that is where my business is sourced from. and i also feel that if we do not clear the air about this discount, we would keep facing it or what do you think guys? Do we stand a chance if we re-apply?

If you add scan and blood work how much will it come up to?

Uber, housing and feeding are not part of it

Biko, wat hospital is this

Shayo5:
Hi,

the break down of the bills for my 2nd baby is below;
Dr - $2200
Hospital - $4k+, i did not pay within the 30 days of my initial payment so i did not qualify for the self pay discount which was about $2300.
Pediatrix - $ 750
labs - about $150 can't really remember.

the break down of bills for my 1st is somewhere in one of the previous threads can't remember the details.

i think the issue the VOs have is the stamp of insurance benefits incurred by hospital on the itemized bill, i did not apply for insurance or medic aid everything was paid for in cash.

guess i'll wait out the storm before another missionary journey.

justwise:
Waste of money and time, you can't sue any embassy just because they refused you a visa.

The legal system is not only for suing but regardless, we are not into providing legal advice. Know your information, never lie, and please be polite and humble. Wishing everyone the best of luck in your interviews.

Is it that there are no renewals with discounts anymore

Vlesparza:
The legal system is not only for suing but regardless, we are not into providing legal advice. Know your information, never lie, and please be polite and humble. Wishing everyone the best of luck in your interviews.

You really do need that.

kamee:
hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains
VO - faces hubby with same question
HUBBY - work at a corporate office with detail
VO - types and starts murmuring looks like he couldn't find any error on our document
VO- turns to the baby and ask why she was not an applicant
I - she's a citizen
vo - can i have your receipts and did you inform the embassy of your intent
we - yes we did and handed the intent later along side receipt and told him a total of $7500 bill was fully paid
vo - so you got a discount
we - no we did not, there's a zero bal inside the envelope stating we paid all there was
VO - why did you get a discount
I - was furious but kept my cool and said againg that there was no discount
VO - kept insisting about the discount (infact mention it 3 times) like his mind was made up about the discount and asked what state we had the child
VO - looks up and said NJ birthing bill was usually $17,000 so paying $7,500 was dicounted
VO - -hands over the blue paper

you see, all we incured including uber, housing, feeding, scan, blood works etc was totalling $15,000. should we have added all these expenses as birthing?. When the hospital billed us as self payfor 2 nights should i have asked them to increase my bill? I really need closure to this rejection. if he had said that we did not make our intent clear from the time of application, that would have been understood. Hubby says we should move on and try uk cos we want to take the kids on vaca but i want to explore the usa more since that is where my business is sourced from. and i also feel that if we do not clear the air about this discount, we would keep facing it or what do you think guys? Do we stand a chance if we re-apply?

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I want to assure you, with complete confidence, that you have done nothing wrong. The recent denial of your visa appears to be linked to policies introduced during the Trump administration, specifically targeting cases related to birth tourism.

The visa officers (VOs) are acting under strict instructions from their superiors. Even if you paid as much as $20,000, your itemized bill likely shows a hospital discount—which is very common. Insurance companies and international patients typically receive similar discounted rates, and the officers are well aware of this.

They are currently working with a reference list that outlines the average cost of childbirth in each U.S. state. Unfortunately, if your hospital bill was significantly lower than average (for example, around $12,000), they might perceive this as aligning with birth tourism patterns, even though you paid privately and without any government assistance.

In many cases, visa officers need a tangible reason to justify denial, and in this climate, discounted hospital bills are being used for that purpose. The current administration has been clear in its stance against birth tourism, and several measures have been implemented to limit it—this includes scrutinizing the billing patterns of international patients.

You may consider reapplying after a few months. It’s important to maintain consistency in your story. Some applicants have been successful on a second attempt, though results are not guaranteed. Alternatively, waiting until after the upcoming U.S. elections may increase your chances, as immigration policies could shift depending on the outcome.

Should you reapply, and if asked whether you received a discount, it’s advisable to be honest and explain that it was a standard hospital policy—not something you requested.

Generally, applicants who can show they paid $12,000 or more out-of-pocket without using public resources tend to have a stronger case for visa renewal. I would also recommend traveling to another country before reapplying, ideally after 8 months, to demonstrate that the U.S. is not your only travel destination.

Lastly, it’s important to remain hopeful and patient. Immigration decisions are complex and often influenced by broader political considerations, not personal merit.

babyfaiz:
You have done nothing wrong, I can tell you that 100%. There’s a ban on those who went for birth tourism by the Trump administration. They VO’s are working under the instructions of their superiors. Even if you paid, $20,000 your itemized bill will show a discount. Even figures quoted for insurance companies are subjected to discount. They have a list they’re working on, given to them by their superiors. The list shows the average price for child birth in each state. If only your bill was around 12k, they would surly grant your visas. They are aware of the discounts by hospitals & they know you paid without using any governmental grant. However, they have to leverage on something to justify their denial. Trump doesn’t want birth tourism - period. If he has he way, he’ll abolish it with immediate effect. Measures are put in place to check birth tourism and one of it is the discount bills international patients receive. You can try again after some few and stick to the same story, you MIGHT be granted. There are no footprints to these things. Better still, wait till next year. U.S elections is around the corner. Some very few have been granted paying less but majority have been denied under the same circumstance. Next time when you are asked, if you got a discount, answer yes & let them know you didn’t request for it but was a standard by the hospital. Any patient that paid 12k and above have a very good chance for successful renewal. My advice is for you to wait till after 8 months after which you must have visited another country in between. Trump has no joy for Africans

You are contradicting yourself, if you are 100% sure about the ban why then will they give her a visa at the same time?

babyfaiz:
You have done nothing wrong, I can tell you that 100%. There’s a ban on those who went for birth tourism by the Trump administration. They VO’s are working under the instructions of their superiors. Even if you paid, $20,000 your itemized bill will show a discount. Even figures quoted for insurance companies are subjected to discount. They have a list they’re working on, given to them by their superiors. The list shows the average price for child birth in each state. If only your bill was around 12k, they would surly grant your visas. They are aware of the discounts by hospitals & they know you paid without using any governmental grant. However, they have to leverage on something to justify their denial. Trump doesn’t want birth tourism - period. If he has he way, he’ll abolish it with immediate effect. Measures are put in place to check birth tourism and one of it is the discount bills international patients receive. You can try again after some few and stick to the same story, you MIGHT be granted. There are no footprints to these things. Better still, wait till next year. U.S elections is around the corner. Some very few have been granted paying less but majority have been denied under the same circumstance. Next time when you are asked, if you got a discount, answer yes & let them know you didn’t request for it but was a standard by the hospital. Any patient that paid 12k and above have a very good chance for successful renewal. My advice is for you to wait till after 8 months after which you must have visited another country in between. Trump has no joy for Africans

trump, much as i dislike him, is not the president of africa neither is it his responsibility to ensure africans have access to a US passport.

kamee:
hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains
VO - faces hubby with same question
HUBBY - work at a corporate office with detail
VO - types and starts murmuring looks like he couldn't find any error on our document
VO- turns to the baby and ask why she was not an applicant
I - she's a citizen
vo - can i have your receipts and did you inform the embassy of your intent
we - yes we did and handed the intent later along side receipt and told him a total of $7500 bill was fully paid
vo - so you got a discount
we - no we did not, there's a zero bal inside the envelope stating we paid all there was
VO - why did you get a discount
I - was furious but kept my cool and said againg that there was no discount
VO - kept insisting about the discount (infact mention it 3 times) like his mind was made up about the discount and asked what state we had the child
VO - looks up and said NJ birthing bill was usually $17,000 so paying $7,500 was dicounted
VO - -hands over the blue paper

you see, all we incured including uber, housing, feeding, scan, blood works etc was totalling $15,000. should we have added all these expenses as birthing?. When the hospital billed us as self payfor 2 nights should i have asked them to increase my bill? I really need closure to this rejection. if he had said that we did not make our intent clear from the time of application, that would have been understood. Hubby says we should move on and try uk cos we want to take the kids on vaca but i want to explore the usa more since that is where my business is sourced from. and i also feel that if we do not clear the air about this discount, we would keep facing it or what do you think guys? Do we stand a chance if we re-apply?

the VO is simply saying that it makes no sense that it costs more for the average american to have a baby in the US than a foreigner. While you may argue that you did not get a discount, you really do not know how the system works and the VO has a much better perspective than you. It is very common for hospitals to charge self-paying patients far less than they would charge insurance for the same medical care. The reason is simple, nothing stops you from simply traveling back to your country without paying a cent of your bill... so rather than lose out, hospitals charge you a lower amount that they think you can afford - half bread is better than none. Who bears the brunt of the rest of the charges? Hapless US citizens who have to face a 30% or more increase in insurance premiums EVERY YEAR. You pay $7500 to have a kid in the US, that is less than half what many middle class families pay in insurance premiums every year alone.

TWoods:
the VO is simply saying that it makes no sense that it costs more for the average american to have a baby in the US than a foreigner. While you may argue that you did not get a discount, you really do not know how the system works and the VO has a much better perspective than you. It is very common for hospitals to charge self-paying patients far less than they would charge insurance for the same medical care. The reason is simple, nothing stops you from simply traveling back to your country without paying a cent of your bill... so rather than lose out, hospitals charge you a lower amount that they think you can afford - half bread is better than none. Who bears the brunt of the rest of the charges? Hapless US citizens who have to face a 30% or more increase in insurance premiums EVERY YEAR. You pay $7500 to have a kid in the US, that is less than half what many middle class families pay in insurance premiums every year alone.

The same discounts are available to US Citizens that are willing to pay non-insured self-pay package. We simply charge what Medicaid and most insurance companies would pay us in the end. What the insured patients see on their bill is not what we get paid... We wish!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeDOQpfaUc8

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This one strong oooo!!!!! Anyway it is well....



[quote author=trakos post=80650197]I know some of us here have been waiting for me to share this transcript , believe me I had it in mind all these while but I got so busy in the last few weeks that it became "work" for me to sit down and type something this long.Especially with the plot twist(like in a movie) that made the story a long one.But I knew I was going to to do it eventually , for others to learn from it.

Vlesparza:
The same discounts are available to US Citizens that are willing to pay non-insured self-pay package. We simply charge what Medicaid and most insurance companies would pay us in the end. What the insured patients see on their bill is not what we get paid... We wish!

I understand that you have to defend this as this is essentially your livelihood at stake. However, the whole point of the reduced "discounts" was strictly for US citizens who cannot afford insurance. It was not meant to be abused by non-citizens. That the government is slow getting around to removing this loophole does not make it justified.

Please ooo......... is it only in healthcare sector in US that "discounts" is an offence or in all transactions? am just curious to know..........

TWoods:
I understand that you have to defend this as this is essentially your livelihood at stake. However, the whole point of the reduced "discounts" was strictly for US citizens who cannot afford insurance. It was not meant to be abused by non-citizens. That the government is slow getting around to removing this loophole does not make it justified.

TWoods:
I understand that you have to defend this as this is essentially your livelihood at stake. However, the whole point of the reduced "discounts" was strictly for US citizens who cannot afford insurance. It was not meant to be abused by non-citizens. That the government is slow getting around to removing this loophole does not make it justified.

This is incorrect. In terms of revenue (If this is the loophole you are referring to because no one is paying for their bills), international patients pay the same (actually a little more) than Medicaid and most insurance companies. Also, there is less paperwork since the payment is upfront and the patient is only seen for a fraction of the time of a US Resident goes to prenatal care. Im not sure who you are referring to is paying their discount because no one is paying us.

jossy404:
Please ooo......... is it only in healthcare sector in US that "discounts" is an offence or in all transactions? am just curious to know..........

I would guess any that does not have the US government supporting you or subsidizing the discount should be ok.

I'll give an example - if you've ever noticed, many biomedical phd programs in the US are fully paid for, for both the US citizen and non-citizen. But the source of the money is completely different. The US government (through the NIEHS) fully funds the costs for the US citizen for the first 4 years. The costs for the non-citizen is borne by the principal investigator whose laboratory he/she works in.

jossy404:
Please ooo......... is it only in healthcare sector in US that "discounts" is an offence or in all transactions? am just curious to know..........

It’s an offense only if you are Nigerian.

Vlesparza:
This is incorrect. In terms of revenue (If this is the loophole you are referring to because no one is paying for their bills), international patients pay the same (actually a little more) than Medicaid and most insurance companies. Also, there is less paperwork since the payment is upfront and the patient is only seen for a fraction of the time of a US Resident goes to prenatal care. Im not sure who you are referring to is paying their discount because no one is paying us.

I disagree... again i would note that your responses are biased because this is your livelihood.

Why would an international patient pay the same as a medicaid patient? You and i both know that many hospitals and doctors routinely turn down medicaid patients because they pay far lower costs than the traditional insurance model.

peacenigeria:
It’s an offense only if you are Nigerian.

Actually not. If you note, Europe goes a step further and requires every non-EU citizen show proof of travel health insurance before they can be issued a visa. The visa expires on the very day your insurance lapses. If the US government worked effectively, it would simply adopt the EU model. A system where pregnant mothers could simply purchase insurance to cover their expenses would be an effective way of avoiding all these.

TWoods:
I disagree... again i would note that your responses are biased because this is your livelihood.

Why would an international patient pay the same as a medicaid patient? You and i both know that many hospitals and doctors routinely turn down medicaid patients because they pay far lower costs than the traditional insurance model.

I'm not biased, I'm trying to give you information. It's funny you think that traditional insurance companies, of all things, are looking out for what is best for the American people and is the model we should be following, this is coming from someone that should be biased towards insurance companies. Best wishes.

TWoods:
Actually not. If you note, Europe goes a step further and requires every non-EU citizen show proof of travel health insurance before they can be issued a visa. The visa expires on the very day your insurance lapses. If the US government worked effectively, it would simply adopt the EU model. A system where pregnant mothers could simply purchase insurance to cover their expenses would be an effective way of avoiding all these.

I guess I should have said black so everybody understood. BTW, your answer would be great if what you mentioned really was the problem

Thanks to everyone who took time to comment on this post. My inlaws were also denied visa based on birth tourism for their last child despite having qualified for 2 drop box in the past. I was thinking of reapplying along with my daughter before or even going alone to sort this discount ..ish out but I will wait it out and hopefully someone comes up with a transcript that is positive for birthing renewal so I can learn. Thank you all once more................

kamee:
hello house, so i went to to renew my visa by drop box but i and my family (myself,hubby, and 2 daughters but the last is a citizen and ther was no one to leave her with) but we were asked to reschedule and appear. so fast forward to the vo asking question

VO - where are you going in the us and why
WE - florida for holiday about 2-3 weeks
VO - what do you do
I - business and explains

kamee:
Thanks to everyone who took time to comment on this post. My inlaws were also denied visa based on birth tourism for their last child despite having qualified for 2 drop box in the past. I was thinking of reapplying along with my daughter before or even going alone to sort this discount ..ish out but I will wait it out and hopefully someone comes up with a transcript that is positive for birthing renewal so I can learn. Thank you all once more................

So why don't you try Canada or Brazil?

Both countries also give citizenship by just soil.

trakos:
I know some of us here have been waiting for me to share this transcript , believe me I had it in mind all these while but I got so busy in the last few weeks that it became "work" for me to sit down and type something this long.Especially with the plot twist(like in a movie) that made the story a long one.But I knew I was going to to do it eventually , for others to learn from it.

We had our interview scheduled for Thursday 27th June,2019 (6: 30 am).Me and DW had flown into Lagos the previous day as we do not stay in Lagos.
After a long wait going through the screening and intake sections , we finally landed in front of this young white lady VO .She had been dishing out pink papers to people before us like that's what she's just there for, lol.

Na wah o! This one shake me o. What could have been their reasons for rejecting you the us visa after you had been told during the interview that your visa had been granted,I refuse to believe that it was because Canada had rejected you earlier,since when has one country's rejection being a basis for another to-do same

trakos:
I know some of us here have been waiting for me to share this transcript , believe me I had it in mind all these while but I got so busy in the last few weeks that it became "work" for me to sit down and type something this long.Especially with the plot twist(like in a movie) that made the story a long one.But I knew I was going to to do it eventually , for others to learn from it.

We had our interview scheduled for Thursday 27th June,2019 (6: 30 am).Me and DW had flown into Lagos the previous day as we do not stay in Lagos.
After a long wait going through the screening and intake sections , we finally landed in front of this young white lady VO .She had been dishing out pink papers to people before us like that's what she's just there for, lol.

VO: Good morning
DW & Me: Good morning
VO: What's your relationship
DW: We are married
VO: Why do u want to come to the USA
DW: To birth our first child
X
X
Me. We will sure have enough fund to handle that
VO: keeps typing for like a minute then says congrats I am approving your visas....Make sure you pay all your bills (and a couple of other stuffs that we didn't hear).Pick your passports here in three working days (Circles Muri Okunola GSS address on the white paper that I posted that day and gave it to us)
DW & Me: Thank you so much, ma'am.

Later that day DW saw an email that had come in around 8am from LagosNIV stating that she had to come for a re-interview as her visa is not valid and she will not be allowed to travel(board) with it. On Monday,we went to pick up the passports but to our surprise,neither of our passports was stamped with Visa.

We got in for re-interview 3rd July .This time ,another lady but more strict was the VO we were directed to.She had just denied the couple before us carrying their US baby.

I check the status few days later and it has gone from "Administrative processing" I saw before the re-interview to "Refused"

l already told DW we would try once more if there is time and I already filled the form.I personally never felt bad for refusals before as it's my money I am going to spend and I could easily just go elsewhere.But this time it's different,I did feel bad a little because it's not just about me ,and the fact that it has to do with time.I once said to myself that I should have never applied to Canada but how would I have known this was going to happen.That's just me being human. Anyway it ends , what matters is DW and the baby's welfare during and after delivery. Anything aside that is extra

So very sorry about the refusal after the initial success...I can only imagine how you feel but when it's all said and done, what you said in bold is the koko! My prayer is that this baby will be great regardless, you and your wife will look back and say "why were we so worried and stressed". You can also look at the Canadian PR program. Many people who had previous visa rejections get the PR if they meet the PR requirements.

I'm not sure there anything you did wrong. They is no way you could foresee a Canada rejection affecting the US application. I agree that the Canadian officer rejected without asking for further evidence, which to be fair to them they are usually good at. I think you've just been caught in the political cross fire!

Please fam, does anyone know how I can renew/process new Nigerian passports while in the US? Passport holders currently in Dallas, Texas and need to renew to travel. Thanks