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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by justwise(m): 6:57am On Jul 29, 2019
Adedayolola:
May I know the steps in applying for the private healthcare?

That is the research you have to make
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Lias91: 7:39am On Jul 29, 2019
Adjo10:
A big smile on my face every morning as i look at my Brazilian baby and the fact that all my future children will be Brazilian (because I and my spouse have permanent residency). Knowing that in less than a year from now, I’m also going to hold my own Brazilian passport and can travel to every single country in Europe visa free and indeed be able to attend job interviews and work in 171+ ECOWAS countries around the world is indeed a blessing to my family.
Pls what kind of visa did your pregnant friend apply for, pls reply
It is my hope that many of my Nigerian brothers and sisters will have such smiles on their faces. Please feel free to ask any questions here and we will try and answer them to the best of our knowledge. The door to Brazil is wide open. My good friend is 7 months pregnant and just went for her visa last 2 weeks. She is Nigerian too and she was not asked any pregnancy test or whatsoever. Brazil is an advanced country and will most likely not ask you such test as it can be against your right as a woman.

Let’s keep the thread alive...

Peace
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Lias91: 7:51am On Jul 29, 2019
Pls what type of visa did you apply for
Oluwo1:
Please which airline can carry someone who's pregnancy is close to 9months to Brazil?
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Lias91: 7:59am On Jul 29, 2019
[Pls have you gotten answers to this, i really want to know urgently plsquote author=aakaay post=80581779]Please has anyone that is obviously pregnant applied for visa very recently and gotten it? or maybe you know someone and can explain their journey?

Can you state how it went and the process from application, to submission, to if you declared tourist or going to birth, if you were asked to do medical tests or come for interview?

I believe this is the main purpose for the thread and i dont see much info on this like other threads have, we are supposed to be learning from each to help people with intentions to apply?

PLS PLS!!![/quote]
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Lias91: 10:05am On Jul 30, 2019
Pls has anyone recently gotten visa for childbirth in Brazil, pls how did you go about it, its urgent pls reply us.
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Fatsoul: 11:52am On Jul 30, 2019
Hello my ppl...Good Afternoon..I jst wana confirm how much Fr a family application.and also I hv an American child .will I apply Fr visa Fr her too or its visa free to brazil
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by LMay(f): 5:32am On Jul 31, 2019
Hello,

Did you go through with it? Were you granted? Can you kindly update us?

Heitch:
Hello people:

Please I need help.

I want to give birth in Brazil, applying for tourist visa on Monday. I intend submitting
1. Letter of introduction from employer
2. 4 months payslip
3. 6 Months statement of account
4. Colored passport photograph
5. Passport
4. Hotel reservation

I am currently 33weeks gone, statement of account 2.5m. Please what other documents should I attach, if to add sponsorship? Also what are my chances. To bother or not?
Please gurus your input will be most appreciated.

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by peppo4live: 10:31am On Jul 31, 2019
Changing someone's status: from tourist to work permit while in Brazil. Is this possible?
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 10:56am On Jul 31, 2019
peppo4live:
Changing someone's status: from tourist to work permit while in Brazil. Is this possible?

Not possible in Brazil or any country i know of including Nigeria. (Unless you seek Asylum) which I don’t know anything about. The only ways to obtain a work permit on a tourist visa is to give birth in Brazil or marry a Brazilian. Then you can change your status to a “ Permanent Resident” which includes a work permit in itself.

Cheers
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by peppo4live: 11:07am On Jul 31, 2019
Thanks
Adjo10:


Not possible in Brazil or any country i know of including Nigeria. (Unless you seek Asylum) which I don’t know anything about. The only ways to obtain a work permit on a tourist visa is to give birth in Brazil or marry a Brazilian. Then you can change your status to a “ Permanent Resident” which includes a work permit in itself.

Cheers
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 11:15am On Jul 31, 2019
peppo4live:
Thanks

Welcome. Wish you all the best in your application in case you are applying.

Cheers
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by peppo4live: 11:59am On Jul 31, 2019
Adjo10:


Welcome. Wish you all the best in your application in case you are applying.

Cheers
Amen

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:16pm On Jul 31, 2019
peppo4live:
Changing someone's status: from tourist to work permit while in Brazil. Is this possible?

Adjo10:


Not possible in Brazil or any country i know of including Nigeria. (Unless you seek Asylum) which I don’t know anything about. The only ways to obtain a work permit on a tourist visa is to give birth in Brazil or marry a Brazilian. Then you can change your status to a “ Permanent Resident” which includes a work permit in itself.
Cheers

You can change from a tourist visa to a working visa.... But it's a bit tricky...
While on your tourist visa, you find a job, get the contract etc, then you apply via a lawyer, who will make all the paperwork for you. When they visa has been approved, the lawyer will give you all the working visa details.... AND THATS WHEN IT GET TRICKY, you need to go to the border, and you walk out of brazil on one side enter Argentina (for example) and walk right back in Brazil on the other side (stating the working visa # etc)... Then you will get the right stamp in your passport ( even if your tourist visa had expired) with which you will now be legally on a working visa in Brazil.

You can't do that at the airport because you have to legally leave Brazil, that's why you have to do it at the border.... Many people take buses to do these visa run. No big deal!

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by peppo4live: 6:27pm On Jul 31, 2019
MrBrownJay1:




You can change from a tourist visa to a working visa.... But it's a bit tricky...
While on your tourist visa, you find a job, get the contract etc, then you apply via a lawyer, who will make all the paperwork for you. When they visa has been approved, the lawyer will give you all the working visa details.... AND THATS WHEN IT GET TRICKY, you need to go to the border, and you walk out of brazil on one side enter Argentina (for example) and walk right back in Brazil on the other side (stating the working visa # etc)... Then you will get the right stamp in your passport ( even if your tourist visa had expired) with which you will now be legally on a working visa in Brazil.

You can't do that at the airport because you have to legally leave Brazil, that's why you have to do it at the border.... Many people take buses to do these visa run. No big deal!
Thanks for this...
That means while in Brazil on tourist visa applying through lawyer is possible but outside Brazil, I think the applicant paper work needs to pass through ministry of labour in Brazil for approval before work visa can be granted in someone's home country. The process na war oooo

Once again, thanks for the enlightenment on the helpful trick.
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 9:25pm On Jul 31, 2019
MrBrownJay1:




You can change from a tourist visa to a working visa.... But it's a bit tricky...
While on your tourist visa, you find a job, get the contract etc, then you apply via a lawyer, who will make all the paperwork for you. When they visa has been approved, the lawyer will give you all the working visa details.... AND THATS WHEN IT GET TRICKY, you need to go to the border, and you walk out of brazil on one side enter Argentina (for example) and walk right back in Brazil on the other side (stating the working visa # etc)... Then you will get the right stamp in your passport ( even if your tourist visa had expired) with which you will now be legally on a working visa in Brazil.

You can't do that at the airport because you have to legally leave Brazil, that's why you have to do it at the border.... Many people take buses to do these visa run. No big deal!

I repeat that this is not possible. When your work visa is approved by the Ministry of Labour, you must go back to Nigeria or another country you have legal residency in to apply for Visa category XI at the Brazilian embassy. This is according to the latest immigration law of 2017. Unfortunately, you cannot apply in Argentina because you are not a legal resident there. The Police Federal will only process your CRNM (Resident Card) with a XI visa.


Let me cut the story short. It is simply impossible.

Cheers
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by MrBrownJay1(m): 10:24pm On Jul 31, 2019
Adjo10:


I repeat that this is not possible. When your work visa is approved by the Ministry of Labour, you must go back to Nigeria or another country you have legal residency in to apply for Visa category XI at the Brazilian embassy. This is according to the latest immigration law of 2017. Unfortunately, you cannot apply in Argentina because you are not a legal resident there. The Police Federal will only process your CRNM (Resident Card) with a XI visa.


Let me cut the story short. It is simply impossible.

Cheers

Again, the lawyer can do all the application for you while you are Living in Brasil (we did it for 3 of our staff). You only need to leave Brazil when the application has been approved, and thats why you need to go to the border, and come back right in (you dont have to go back to Africa)..... as soon as the lawyers give you the green light with number of application etc, then the border is good enough as the law only says you need to leave Brasil... Even if you are overstaying your tourist visa, you will be allowed back in, since the application has already been approved (after paying the fine)... Contact any immigration lawyer in Brasil and you will have this information confirmed.

Now maybe you can tell us if there is a different RULE for Nigerians but, so far as i know, the law is the same for everyone when applying for working visa

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 10:49pm On Jul 31, 2019
MrBrownJay1:


Again, the lawyer can do all the application for you while you are Living in Brasil (we did it for 3 of our staff). You only need to leave Brazil when the application has been approved, and thats why you need to go to the border, and come back right in (you dont have to go back to Africa)..... as soon as the lawyers give you the green light with number of application etc, then the border is good enough as the law only says you need to leave Brasil... Even if you are overstaying your tourist visa, you will be allowed back in, since the application has already been approved (after paying the fine)... Contact any immigration lawyer in Brasil and you will have this information confirmed.

Now maybe you can tell us if there is a different RULE for Nigerians but, so far as i know, the law is the same for everyone when applying for working visa

Thanks. I understand your point perfectly. The only thing is this. There are 3 processes involved in applying for a work permit. None of the processes can be skipped and there are all connected.

Step: 1. Have your employer or you apply for approval at the Ministry of labor in Brazil

Step 2. Apply for a Temporal Visa category XI (after the ministry of labor approves your work permit) at a Brazilian embassy in your home country or a country that you are resident of.

Step 3. Travel to Brazil under the visa category XI given you by the Brazilian embassy abroad. You then have up to 90 days to register with Police Federal in Brazil after landing in the country. During the registration process at the Police federal, your fingerprint will be taking and your physical Residency card will be process so you can come and collect it within 3 months. For the meantime, you will be given a temporal document called “protocol “ by the police federal to start work while you await your physical card. My point is: POLICE FEDERAL WILL NOT PROCESS YOU APPLICATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A VISA CATEGORY XI IN YOUR PASSPORT. And the only way to get this visa is to apply at a Brazilian embassy outside of Brazil.

Thanks

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by MrBrownJay1(m): 10:53pm On Jul 31, 2019
Adjo10:


Thanks. I understand your point perfectly. The only thing is this. There are 3 processes involved in applying for a work permit. None of the processes can be skipped and there are all connected.

Step: 1. Have your employer or you apply for approval at the Ministry of labor in Brazil

Step 2. Apply for a Temporal Visa category XI (after the ministry of labor approves your work permit) at a Brazilian embassy in your home country or a country that you are resident of.

Step 3. Travel to Brazil under the visa category XI given you by the Brazilian embassy abroad. You then have up to 90 days to register with Police Federal in Brazil after landing in the country. During the registration process at the Police federal, your fingerprint will be taking and your physical Residency card will be process so you can come and collect it within 3 months. For the meantime, you will be given a temporal document called “protocol “ by the police federal to start work while you await your physical card. My point is: POLICE FEDERAL WILL NOT PROCESS YOU APPLICATION UNLESS YOU HAVE A VISA CATEGORY XI IN YOUR PASSPORT. And the only way to get this visa is to apply at a Brazilian embassy outside of Brazil.

Thanks

A Brazilian immigration lawyer can do all the process of obtaining a visa for you, within Brasil...the most important information are that of your employer. When approved you only need to waltz at any border to regulate your situation... And then start working. You Cannot work until you have left the country and come back with proper immigration status.

If in doubt, contact any immigration lawyer.....

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 11:01pm On Jul 31, 2019
MrBrownJay1:


A Brazilian immigration lawyer can do all the process of obtaining a visa for you, within Brasil...the most important information are that of your employer. When approved you only need to waltz at any border to regulate your situation... And then start working. You Cannot work until you have left the country and come back with proper immigration status.

If in doubt, contact any immigration lawyer.....

Here is a list of different reliable websites confirming my point. There are many more websites confirming this but i will post only 3. Cheers

https://transferwise.com/gb/blog/brazil-work-visa

https://www.justlanded.com/english/Brazil/Brazil-Guide/Visas-Permits/Work-visas

http://www.expatarrivals.com/americas/brazil/work-permits-brazil
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 11:06pm On Jul 31, 2019
I add an official website so we are all clear. And i quote:

“tourist visa holder apply for a work visa without leaving the country?

No. An individual who enters Brazil as a tourist must exit the country with the same status. This means that tourists are not permitted to change a visa from one type to another during his/her stay in the country. A possible employer must initiate the application of a work permit in behalf of the applicant. Once approved, the applicant must leave Brazil and go back to his country of origin, where he/she can claim his/her work visa through the Brazilian Consulate.”

Source:

https://www.us-passport-service-guide.com/brazil-work-visa.html
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by MrBrownJay1(m): 11:24pm On Jul 31, 2019
Adjo10:


Here is a list of different reliable websites confirming my point. There are many more websites confirming this but i will post only 3. Cheers

https://transferwise.com/gb/blog/brazil-work-visa

https://www.justlanded.com/english/Brazil/Brazil-Guide/Visas-Permits/Work-visas

http://www.expatarrivals.com/americas/brazil/work-permits-brazil

All Brazilian visa application will be dealt with IN BRAZIL.... If you Apply for a Braziliann visa from Wherever in the world, the application is sent to Brazil, thus an immigration lawyer can Do all the paperwork directly from the ministry of foreign affairs/labor within brazil, and you can therefore obtain your visa by showing up at any Brazilian embassy in the world OR simply by showing up at the border....but hey... If you believe otherwise, instead of simply checking with an immigration lawyer, then by all means, believe what you want to believe.

by reading online what others are doing, and believing that this is a fact, you will always fail.... Many tourist who cant afford the lawyer route simply do a visa run into Argentina, and get a visa there within 10days (ex gf got hers that way) without A) being resident in Argentina or B) returning to their own country (as you wrongly stated)

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by MrBrownJay1(m): 11:27pm On Jul 31, 2019
Adjo10:
I add an official website so we are all clear. And i quote:

“tourist visa holder apply for a work visa without leaving the country?

No. An individual who enters Brazil as a tourist must exit the country with the same status. This means that tourists are not permitted to change a visa from one type to another during his/her stay in the country. A possible employer must initiate the application of a work permit in behalf of the applicant. Once approved, the applicant must leave Brazil and go back to his country of origin, where he/she can claim his/her work visa through the Brazilian Consulate.”

Source:
https://www.us-passport-service-guide.com/brazil-work-visa.html

Do you have english comprehension issues?! As i clearly stated, you have to go to the border, leave brazil and re Enter immediately with your working visa application number, that your immigration lawyer would have provided you with....since the visa has already been approved, no need to go back home. Duh!!

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by DAramis: 7:03am On Aug 01, 2019
The truth is that each countries law is an A. SS.... You can find legal loop holes in it which technically doesn't exist plainly as stated on the black and white screen.

All I can say is that most times, perception of what is stated on a paper is quite different from reality of the law at ground due to technicality.

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 7:41am On Aug 01, 2019
MrBrownJay1:


Do you have english comprehension issues?! As i clearly stated, you have to go to the border, leave brazil and re Enter immediately with your working visa application number, that your immigration lawyer would have provided you with....since the visa has already been approved, no need to go back home. Duh!!



I will not waste my time arguing with you. Stop deceiving people. I REPEAT, POLICE FEDERAL WILL NOT GIVE YOU A WORK PERMIT WITHOUT A VISA. You can say all you want but the truth is the truth. Stop deceiving people.

I have always encouraged people here to pursue their goals in Brazil. What you are saying is simply not true. In fact, PF at the border will not even stamp his passport that he left Brazil and cannot enter Argentina without an Argentinian visa. I am much aware of people crossing the border without stamp but his case his different. STOP DECEIVING PEOPLE.

You are here arguing with official websites. Have you ever heard of someone applying for a Brazilian visa in Brazil lol. Do you know the meaning of a visa? I rest my case. I will no more comment on this. Those who are wise will not follow your ungrounded advice.
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by peppo4live: 8:32am On Aug 01, 2019
Applying for a work visa outside Brazil is not child's play oooo.. I and my employer have followed all the steps on their website... And we have been on the online queue for more than a year now but no positive response from their Ministry of Labour in Brazil. This forced me to visit their Brazil in Nigeria and I was told that the consular can't help except they receive approval from MTE in Brazil....

What is on their website is just there for formality sake. What I also notice is that their brazilian system is extremely slow and they don't respond to mails.
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by damrmd02(f): 8:42am On Aug 01, 2019
[quote author=aakaay post=80581779]Please has anyone that is obviously pregnant applied for visa very recently and gotten it? or maybe you know someone and can explain their journey?

Can you state how it went and the process from application, to submission, to if you declared tourist or going to birth, if you were asked to do medical tests or come for interview?

I believe this is the main purpose for the thread and i dont see much info on this like other threads have, we are supposed to be learning from each to help people with intentions to apply?

Pls the gurus should respond to this.. thanks

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 8:51am On Aug 01, 2019
peppo4live:
Applying for a work visa outside Brazil is not child's play oooo.. I and my employer have followed all the steps on their website... And we have been on the online queue for more than a year now but no positive response from their Ministry of Labour in Brazil. This forced me to visit their Brazil in Nigeria and I was told that the consular can't help except they receive approval from MTE in Brazil....

What is on their website is just there for formality sake. What I also notice is that their brazilian system is extremely slow and they don't respond to mails.




You are right. Brazil’s bureaucracy can be a nightmare. It is super super slow. In general, i will say Brazil’s immigration is super though compared to many countries. That is why most people don’t even consider Brazil. The only thing that makes everything super super super super 100 times easy is to give birth in Brazil. You are treated like a VIP. We were given permanent residency and permission to work on the spot . It took us just 2 months to receive the physical permanent residency card.

Apart from given birth in Brazil, getting anything done in Brazil requires extreme patience. I pray your case is attended to soon so you can obtain your visa and enter Brazil soon.

Cheers

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by Adjo10: 9:21am On Aug 01, 2019
And trust me, just like the way the Consulate told you they can’t do anything until it is approved by the Ministry of Labor so will Police Federal (immigration office) in Brazil will tell you they cannot do anything without the Consulate’s work visa sticker in your passport. It is a process that cannot be skipped.

But you will make it. Let your employer in Brazil keep pushing for the Ministry to approve. Cheers

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Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by peppo4live: 10:18am On Aug 01, 2019
Adjo10:
And trust me, just like the way the Consulate told you they can’t do anything until it is approved by the Ministry of Labor so will Police Federal (immigration office) in Brazil will tell you they cannot do anything without the Consulate’s work visa sticker in your passport. It is a process that cannot be skipped.

But you will make it. Let your employer in Brazil keep pushing for the Ministry to approve. Cheers
Thanks
Re: Giving Birth In Brazil by peppo4live: 11:14am On Aug 01, 2019
How I wish my employer gets to know this your trick ooooo
MrBrownJay1:




You can change from a tourist visa to a working visa.... But it's a bit tricky...
While on your tourist visa, you find a job, get the contract etc, then you apply via a lawyer, who will make all the paperwork for you. When they visa has been approved, the lawyer will give you all the working visa details.... AND THATS WHEN IT GET TRICKY, you need to go to the border, and you walk out of brazil on one side enter Argentina (for example) and walk right back in Brazil on the other side (stating the working visa # etc)... Then you will get the right stamp in your passport ( even if your tourist visa had expired) with which you will now be legally on a working visa in Brazil.

You can't do that at the airport because you have to legally leave Brazil, that's why you have to do it at the border.... Many people take buses to do these visa run. No big deal!

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